Rosemary's Baby: The Apartment That Birthed Modern Horror

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All right, lean in for a second because we need

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to talk about the absolute blueprint for parental

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paranoia. We're stepping into the apartment building

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that basically birthed modern psychological horror.

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And no, Coco, I'm not talking about your last

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apartment complex, though the landlord vibe was

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familiar. Talking about Rosemary's Baby. what

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a masterpiece this movie is this is parallel

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frequencies i am just playing she is coco you're

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the freaks what's up over there coco are you

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ready for rosemary's baby more than ready more

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than ready i have never seen this movie before

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and watched it to prepare for this episode today

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for you freaks and uh as i'm watching it i'm

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thinking how is this the first time i've ever

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seen this right i figured i didn't want to hype

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it up for you too much i wanted you to kind of

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be surprised but i knew what you were getting

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into you know i don't know what i was getting

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into when i ordered my package you see i'm still

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sitting here waiting on that we're still sitting

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here waiting for your package same spot same

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clothes same clothes worse worse smell at this

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point so everything's the same except the smell

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um Yeah, I probably. No, no, no. But for real,

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we're actually recording ahead of time. Tell

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us why we're recording ahead of time. All right.

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Well, it's Wistful Wednesday. But on Wednesday,

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about three months in advance, I scheduled a

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mom's day off. This is a. yearly tradition that

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i do for myself i have invited other moms sometimes

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other moms can make it sometimes i can't sometimes

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i do it all by myself which might be the case

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when i when i take the day off but i like to

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take advantage of the last few weeks of school

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i feel this kind of ticking time bomb sort of

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yeah it's like It's not really impending doom

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per se, but it is an impending change of lifestyle,

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if that makes sense. It does. I am the primary

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caregiver and momager of my household. So it's

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a lot of responsibility. Three boys all of summer,

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all the time. And I just like to take these last

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few weeks before they get out of school to do

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one day where I just play hooky for the day.

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And I just go do whatever I want to do for the

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day. So that's what I'm doing on Wistful Wednesday.

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Do you tell people that you're doing this? Or

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do you just secretly go do it? Or what happens

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here? What are you going to do? I'll have to

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block it on my schedule. That's why we're recording

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this a day early. Because I need to block the

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schedule off. Make sure that I don't accidentally

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schedule other things. Because I will. I'm so

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like me to do that, but, uh, I make sure that

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people know. And then I invite my favorite mom

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friends. I'll like pick some mom friends I know

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and be like, Hey, I'm doing this. If it works

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out in your schedule that you could take the

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day off to and come with me. Great. So sometimes

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last year I had a group of four of us that all

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went together. It was super fun. That's fine.

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So, so this is going to be airing after this

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happens. So let's talk to future. Let's talk

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to future Coco. How was your day? What did you

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do for your mom's day? Where did you go? What

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happened? So restful. I feel so invigorated.

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I like to ride the tracks just because it's fun

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and it's a fun way to get into the city. So take

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the tracks in. great little cafe i might mess

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up the name of it because i've never heard it

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pronounced out loud but it's like cave cafe or

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cave cafe it's a turkish coffee place in salt

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lake and it's kind of like almost to the avenues

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so old victorian houses that were made into you

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know airbnbs and coffee houses and things like

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that so it's love that area Cute little artsy

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vibe. There's tarot readers like me, Reiki healers

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like me. It's my people. It's my vibe. So I'll

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take a book. I'll go order me some coffee and

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some baklava and some good pastries and treats.

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And I'll just sit and sip my coffee. So you ride

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the train, you ride tracks up there. I have never

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ridden tracks, but I was a frequent flyer of

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the Hollywood red line or anything right there.

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LA because I used public transportation for the

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five years or so I was there. First five years.

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Honestly, I used public transportation. I would

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not get a car because I didn't have a parking

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place in my apartment and I was not going to

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fight Hollywood parking on the street every night.

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So I rode the buses and trains. It was wild.

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So I need to ride tracks. I should ride. I got

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an idea. I got an idea. What if? Me and you ride

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tracks together and record an episode, and we

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do the movie Snowpiercer. Now, I know you may

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not know what that is, but it just clicked in

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my head, and that would be the movie we should

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talk about while riding a train to downtown Salt

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Lake. I think that'd be fun. What do you think?

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We should do that? Absolutely. We'd be the coolest

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people on the train. I mean, are you kidding?

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There'd be like people riding it up to the U

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to go to school. There's college kids ride it

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all the time. It goes straight. The red line

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goes straight from here where we live in our

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neighborhood to the U all the way on the other

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side. So I see a lot of people like so jealous

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of us. Like, excuse me, guys. We're podcasting

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over here. Okay. Yeah. Now I took you to the

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subway in Hollywood. I'm taking you there. Wow,

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right? We rode the... Hollywood and Vine, the

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red line. The red light? Yeah. I mean, I've ridden

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the Underground in London. Super proud of myself.

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I'm one of those people who's actually terrified

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of public transportation. Not because I think

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like there's weirdos on the train or like any

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of that kind of stuff. I'm not worried about

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that. I am terrified of getting lost. I'm terrified

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of my own incompetence and not being able to

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figure out that I got on the right train, going

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the right direction to get me where I need to

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go. we don't have like as much of an intricate

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system as some of the big cities like LA, London,

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you know, Salt Lake has kind of their simpler.

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Yeah. From what I've seen, it's nice. It's really

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nice here. So yeah, we're going to put that on

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the docket that we're going to watch Snowpiercer,

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the movie. There's a TV series that came out

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too. And this, this movie is wild. Yeah. I'm

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not going to tell you what it's all about, but

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we'll get to that. But right now, Wistful Wednesday,

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Rosemary's Baby. I'm going to speak. on this

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right off the top, Roman Polanski, director,

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this is one of those situations where, and you

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can come at me, you can debate with us, you can

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join the conversation, freaks, but can you separate

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art with the artist? Because Roman Polanski is

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a piece of shit. He evaded the U .S. to, or he

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left the U .S. to evade a statutory rape trial,

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and he's still been there. Lots of stuff going

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on. Lots of people have certain feelings about

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all that. But I can't just glance over that and

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not say anything. Especially with some of the

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content that's in this movie that we see. And

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it's like, huh. All right. Well, I saw the inspiration

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for what he, you know. So it's disgusting what

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happened there. And like I said, it's been a

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while. He's been there since 1978. So this is.

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what, that's 48 years, I think, if my math is

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close, 50 -ish, close to 50 years. I can only

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hope, even though he evaded punishment here,

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that perhaps he's not continuing the same behavior

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over there and then has, or maybe he doesn't

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get caught again. I don't know, but. It's always

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been a thing to, can we separate the art? from

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the artist because we go through that in music

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too we see that with people like Kanye West yay

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now you know he was hailing Hitler at one point

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and then yeah how do you still listen R. Kelly

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was another one you know he's off in prison now

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do you still appreciate his music those are a

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little bit different to me because Roman Polanski

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making a movie the art isn't just his You got

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all these other people in this that you've got

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to, to, to give some respect to. And I want them,

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I want the Mia Farrow. I want, you know, these

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people to be put on a pedestal above him because

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without them, this movie, I don't care. It wouldn't

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have happened. It wouldn't have been what it,

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what it ended up being. And now that I got that

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past, you know, like I, I don't want to talk

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anymore about Roman Polanski. No more about that.

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We'll talk just about Rosemary's Baby, the incredible

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performance from Mia Farrow, and everybody else

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involved. I mean, we talk about cast chemistry

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all the time, and cast alchemy is one phrase

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I came up with yesterday. Remember? This one

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was cast alchemy complete. Like John Cassavetes

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as Guy Woodhouse, Mia Farrow, Ruth Gordon, Sidney

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Blackburn, Ralph Bellamy, Maurice Evans. You

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can keep going down this list. And these were

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heavy hitters for every, every scene. This movie

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doesn't have a scene where you can just kind

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of kick back and relax. It's not going to happen.

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The entire thing. You got a whole character with

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the apartment building that they're in themselves.

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Like there's so much going on and so many layers

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to this movie. I watched this movie twice last

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night and still saw different stuff. You know,

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I did. I watched it back to back last night.

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So yeah, go ahead and give me off the top Coco,

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because this was your first watch. What did you

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think? So much, so much going on here. Let's

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start with the very beginning. Let's start with

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the apartment itself. Like architecture, history.

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This is something we live in the Western United

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States. So a lot of the old buildings we see

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here and even some of them are getting demolished

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and replaced quickly. There may be a hundred

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years old. But one of the things you find when

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you leave the West and you go to the like New

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York, for example, or if you. go across the pond

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to a european country and you go people are living

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in 400 year old houses and buildings like it's

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insane to me and i love seeing the architecture

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as they walk you through the building and they

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walk you through the apartment One thing you'll

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notice is how compartmentalized the floor plans

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were at a certain time. I like architecture.

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So this is just like my nerdiness coming out.

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But, you know, nowadays we're all about the open

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concept and the flow. And, you know, it's interesting

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to me that they had like a nice, big, open living

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room that you had to get through this hallway

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to. You've got this gorgeous fireplace, even

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after they paint it and it's all white. It's

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so pretty. But it's right across the hall from

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their bedroom. That's not something you would

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typically see because it was like the private

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chambers are right there across from the public

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area of the house where you bring guests. So

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that's just like first impressions. I just loved

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that the apartment being a cast member was. part

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of that experience of, like, what's going on?

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Yeah, and how about that opening? The cinematography

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on the opening right there with the la, la, la,

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la, la, that music, that eerie kind of yet settling

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music. It's unsettling and settling at the same

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time. But if you notice the cinematography there,

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we kind of come floating in. You come floating

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into that building like it's something that got

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into the building. And you're already kind of

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feeling like, man, something's kind of off. But

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I do love the architecture. Let's get into Gaslighting.

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Because that is what this movie is. Oh, my God.

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Guy Woodhouse in Gaslighting makes him the villain

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of this movie. Played by John Cassavetes beautifully,

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by the way. 100 % the villain. Honestly, he might

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be the real villain of this place even before

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the demon with the yellow eyes pops up. And he's

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a struggling actor, which already probably got

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a chip on his shoulder. Let's just be real. He's

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doing commercials. Self -centered, you know,

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knows how to put on an act when he needs to.

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I mean, there's a lot of red flags. Yeah, I mean,

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he's doing commercials and tasting the dirt of

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rejection. He's ravenous for success. Will do

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anything for success. And then his main rival

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suddenly mysteriously goes blind. Already tipping

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off to the viewer. Hmm, what's going on? And

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then boom, guy gets the part. It's the ultimate

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Hollywood hustle taken to the most literal demonic

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extreme. What makes this movie... itch under

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your skin 50 plus years later because this thing

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came out in 1968 which is wild in its own to

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think that something like this came out this

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was disturbing you know but 50 years later it

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gets under our skin still because it's it's it's

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not the supernatural stuff it's the human betrayal

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you know it's that because that stings when we

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see this we see her we know what she's going

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through and you got so many people around her

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gas lightener Telling her it's okay. Uh -oh,

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there's the FedEx package. Got the package. It

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only took two days. No, we already went through

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that. We don't have to. You can finally shower.

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I can take a shower now. No, we're still filming

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this today. But I was talking about. Yeah, I

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was talking about the gaslighting. Yes. Nowhere

00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:28.059
to turn. That feeling that Mia Farrow's character

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would... By the way, I just want to give some

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accolades to Mia Farrow. What an amazing performance.

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I mean, that is what makes this movie what it

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is. It really reminds me of Shelley Duvall in

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The Shining. Is it Shelley Duvall? She's got

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that same kind of almost... I don't want to say

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homely because I hate using that kind of stuff.

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No, but desperate. Desperate. Desperate. Yeah.

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But she gave me that. She gave me the Shelly.

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And Shelly Duvall's performance came after this.

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So she may have taken a lot of inspiration from

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Mia Farrow's performance in Rosemary's Baby.

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But I did notice it. But go ahead on Mia Farrow

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and what she was doing because incredible. Yeah.

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The emotions that I. Oh, just feel for her. But

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like the feeling that she starts to get where

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everything feels like the walls are closing in

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and she has nowhere to turn. No one to help her.

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It's so sad that that, you know, comes with this

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horror movie aspect of like what supernatural

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things are happening to her in the movie. That

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it's actually really relatable. It's actually

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really relatable to a lot of women and a lot

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of circumstances where. You get yourself into

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a place where there's just nowhere to turn for

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help. You're trying to find safety. You're trying

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to find someone who will believe you. I'm not

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crazy. I know what I see. I know what I feel.

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And everywhere you turn, even Dr. Hill betrays

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her. What? Come on. I'm just devastated for her.

00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:06.600
it also feels like a sort of familiar feeling.

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Not that I've been in a place that dire in my

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life, but just as a woman, I think we, we carry

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a sort of generational trauma inside of ourselves

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that understands this kind of, there's nowhere

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safe for you to be. You're under the thumb of

00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:30.879
these. Yeah. Men. Yeah. Yeah. But I think there's

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a, I think there's a real parallel. Like, I think

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there's a corporate parallel to this. You know,

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like the fact that Guy Woodhouse trades his wife's

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autonomy for a Broadway deal. Just like that.

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Sold his soul and his wife and his child. I mean,

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that's an ultimate casting couch horror story

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right there, wrapped up in a velvet coven robe.

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You know, like, it's... I've been in corporate

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and media long enough to know that there are

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some serious occult vibes that are in parts of

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it. And it may not be, you know, a chalice, a

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tennis root or whatever they were wearing. You

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know, sometimes you just need a middle management

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title and a corporate credit card. And it's the

00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:31.009
same thing. Yeah. You know, I just. Right. Somebody

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is in charge and somebody needs their worship.

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Which which brings me up to ask the question

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to you, to the freaks. Like when in your career

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have you realized that the price of admission

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or when in life have you realized that the price

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of admission is just a little too high? You know,

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like that's what I look at in Guy Woodhouse's

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case. That price of admission was a little too

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high for what you, you know, gave. So, yeah,

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but I just, I could see that. Let's talk about

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Roman and Minnie. Yes, let's. My favorite character

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and actress in this entire movie, though, of

00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:14.440
course, Mia Farrow did a great job. You know,

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nothing against that, but Gordon playing Minnie.

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My favorite. Hands down. She won an Oscar deservedly

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for this role right here. I didn't even know

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that. Yeah, she did. I mean, you can double check

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me out there. Freaks make sure. I think I'm just,

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I remember, I believe she did win an Oscar. But

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these people are the ultimate personification

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of the smothering community. They look eccentric,

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colorful. high society grandparents you know

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like it's like they they're putting off a facade

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basically because they're running a whole lot

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tighter ship than they seem to to portray you

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know so right off the bat that you kind of you

00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:12.079
kind of love them right i do i i would love being

00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.609
neighbors with them honestly I mean, they kind

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of give off just this, yeah, maybe a little overbearing.

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I mean, you can see it when she's settling in

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to rest and be at home for the evening and read

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a book. And all of a sudden they're at her door

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and they're like, can we come in? You know, and

00:19:27.369 --> 00:19:29.670
you kind of were like, well, sometimes I just

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want to be alone. But I mean, you have neighbors

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that feel that comfortable and are there to like

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care for you and invite you to dinner. Her natural

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way of speaking to Rosemary, the way she just,

00:19:43.329 --> 00:19:45.130
you know, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fine. It's

00:19:45.130 --> 00:19:47.569
fine. I'll talk to you later. Okay. Well, we'll

00:19:47.569 --> 00:19:50.029
see you on the other side. And this is my impression

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of Minnie. I don't know if it's good, but this

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is what I'm doing. So I would love to be in your,

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oh, sweetheart, you're looking great. You look

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so thin. You know, all the things. I just, I

00:20:00.670 --> 00:20:04.190
just fell in love with her. And I could see why

00:20:04.190 --> 00:20:07.519
you would. Invite her into your life and want

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her to be around and help you pick colors for

00:20:09.700 --> 00:20:12.539
your nursery, right? Let's be completely honest.

00:20:12.619 --> 00:20:15.839
If a neighbor like her, well, first of all, if

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they hand you a Lucky Charm that smells like

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a dumpster behind a seafood restaurant, you're

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probably going to toss that bastard into the

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river. But Rosemary being polite, isolated, that's

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the big one. She's isolated. And that's what

00:20:28.940 --> 00:20:32.480
they prey on. Yeah. You know, like, but if we

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had neighbors like that. I'd be welcoming at

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first, you know, and that's, that's how I am.

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But when you start showing up at my door and

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I'm trying to have me time, I'm going to say,

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no, I'm going to say, no, you're not coming in

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right now. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Boundaries people.

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This is a good lesson in boundaries are okay.

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Boundaries are loving. Boundaries are kind and

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people who need, who respect your boundaries

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are people who love and honor you. So it. Yeah,

00:21:02.460 --> 00:21:04.980
it should have been less people pleasing and

00:21:04.980 --> 00:21:07.960
more boundary holding, I think, maybe would have

00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:12.339
saved Rosemary quite a lot. Let's get into the

00:21:12.339 --> 00:21:15.039
real horror of this movie. And we've kind of

00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.339
touched on it already. And it's the fear of not

00:21:18.339 --> 00:21:24.160
being believed. That, to me, is the emotional

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core of this movie. It hits a whole lot different

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depending on where you are in life. Rosemary

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knows something is deeply, inherently wrong.

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Her body's telling her. Instincts are screaming

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at her. It's a woman's intuition, once again.

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You go in, you tell the doctor what's wrong,

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and they say, no, no, no, no, no, no. You got

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this. Take some Tylenol. And you end up with

00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:51.619
exactly what you said was wrong. So it happens

00:21:51.619 --> 00:21:56.480
all the time. And she's losing it. Believe in

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yourself. Believe your gut. Believe your intuition.

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Follow it. Usually if you've got an impression

00:22:02.460 --> 00:22:05.299
or feeling about something, you are almost always

00:22:05.299 --> 00:22:10.700
right. Exactly. Like her body telling her, you

00:22:10.700 --> 00:22:12.799
know, it's screaming at her. She's losing weight.

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She's pregnant. How do you lose weight when you're

00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:16.539
pregnant? You're not supposed to. She's in excruciating

00:22:16.539 --> 00:22:20.099
pain. She's eating raw meat straight from the

00:22:20.099 --> 00:22:22.839
butcher paper. Like, come on. Something's not

00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:27.980
right. You know, like. You feel for her. Don't

00:22:27.980 --> 00:22:31.279
get me wrong, guys. The first trimester in pregnancy,

00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:34.019
and sometimes for a lot of people the whole time

00:22:34.019 --> 00:22:37.599
through, the sickness and the morning sickness

00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:39.140
and the things that you go through, I mean, it

00:22:39.140 --> 00:22:42.019
can be a crazy wild ride in a normal pregnancy.

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So I kind of get the feeling she was trying to

00:22:46.599 --> 00:22:49.180
write it off. Like, well, it's normal. I mean,

00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:52.579
it's... You know, my doctors are telling me it's

00:22:52.579 --> 00:22:56.619
OK. And, you know, it's her first time being

00:22:56.619 --> 00:22:58.259
pregnant. How would she know any different? Right.

00:22:58.420 --> 00:23:00.880
I mean, you got to give her credit for I think

00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:02.680
most women would be in that same boat. They would

00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:04.680
be like, yeah, but it's normal to lose a little

00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:06.319
bit of weight at first because you're sick a

00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:09.599
lot. And then I'll gain weight later. And she

00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:12.859
didn't know any better. Exactly. And every single

00:23:12.859 --> 00:23:15.940
man in her life, her husband, her prestigious

00:23:15.940 --> 00:23:19.299
doctor, the system tells her she's just being

00:23:19.299 --> 00:23:23.960
a hysterical pregnant woman, completely invalidating

00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:26.259
her reality. She knows what's going on. They

00:23:26.259 --> 00:23:29.319
dial down her volume until she sounds like static

00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:31.759
in the radio and they don't want to hear it.

00:23:31.819 --> 00:23:34.400
It's just all of her autonomy. They take away

00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.190
all respect for her. And by the way. I mean,

00:23:38.190 --> 00:23:40.849
it shouldn't just be pregnant women, but in general,

00:23:40.970 --> 00:23:43.970
if you're ever wondering how to treat a woman,

00:23:44.089 --> 00:23:47.430
if anyone out there is wondering, like, what

00:23:47.430 --> 00:23:52.670
is the right way? Generally speaking. To be nurtured

00:23:52.670 --> 00:23:55.049
and cared for and treated with a certain level

00:23:55.049 --> 00:23:58.349
of respect is so wonderful. Like when you're

00:23:58.349 --> 00:24:01.049
pregnant, you want people to treat you like you're

00:24:01.049 --> 00:24:03.430
growing life inside of you. We got to take care

00:24:03.430 --> 00:24:05.230
of you. Let's make sure you're eating. Let's

00:24:05.230 --> 00:24:07.630
make sure you're sleeping. That's all fine. That's

00:24:07.630 --> 00:24:10.930
all great. But to act like, oh, you don't know

00:24:10.930 --> 00:24:14.009
what you're talking about. You just be quiet.

00:24:14.250 --> 00:24:16.809
Oh, you can't have that. You can't eat that.

00:24:16.849 --> 00:24:19.630
You can't do that. And then to like lock it down,

00:24:19.670 --> 00:24:23.319
like. Having them in charge of you. Yes. And

00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:28.460
that's what I'm saying right there is they are

00:24:28.460 --> 00:24:32.000
in charge enough to where you are sitting there

00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:36.460
speaking truth. That scene where they're all

00:24:36.460 --> 00:24:40.259
in the room, basically. And she, Rosemary, is

00:24:40.259 --> 00:24:43.000
speaking nothing but the truth. And they are

00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:45.859
all standing there around looking at her saying,

00:24:45.980 --> 00:24:49.259
no, no, no, no, no, no. that's terrifying when

00:24:49.259 --> 00:24:52.819
you are trapped in a single room and you can't

00:24:52.819 --> 00:24:55.700
do anything about that. That to me is the psychological

00:24:55.700 --> 00:24:59.599
isolation, not just isolated physically. Now

00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:03.099
you've got the psychological part and you know,

00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:06.420
it's who's opening and holding the door open

00:25:06.420 --> 00:25:10.519
for the monster. At that point, you got it open.

00:25:10.579 --> 00:25:12.299
You got the door open for that psychological

00:25:12.299 --> 00:25:14.599
trauma to come in and it's going to happen. Then

00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:16.160
you've got the supernatural stuff going on too.

00:25:17.259 --> 00:25:21.619
Yeah, but this, to me, that's what's terrifying

00:25:21.619 --> 00:25:23.700
to me. It's like me sitting here saying, oh,

00:25:23.740 --> 00:25:26.380
the sky is blue, and somebody else telling you,

00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:27.619
looking you dead in the eye, saying, no, no,

00:25:27.660 --> 00:25:30.460
no, no, no. And a bunch of people doing that

00:25:30.460 --> 00:25:33.539
to you, to where you feel crazy. That's scary.

00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:36.559
There's a couple of little examples, like little

00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:40.000
microaggressions that you see. One that I remember

00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:41.960
was when they're fighting after the party, and

00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:44.619
she's like, I'm not going to go see Dr. Saperstein

00:25:44.619 --> 00:25:47.380
anymore. I'm not taking those shakes that, those

00:25:47.380 --> 00:25:52.220
drinks i'm not doing it um i gotta find another

00:25:52.220 --> 00:25:54.180
i gotta get a second opinion i gotta get a second

00:25:54.180 --> 00:25:58.160
opinion and um he says how's that gonna make

00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:01.099
the doctor feel or he says something like along

00:26:01.099 --> 00:26:03.220
the lines of like well your heart is feelings

00:26:03.220 --> 00:26:05.900
or how is he supposed to feel about that and

00:26:05.900 --> 00:26:09.180
she's like what do you mean how is he supposed

00:26:09.180 --> 00:26:13.220
to feel i remember like that scene being so like

00:26:13.220 --> 00:26:17.740
oh my gosh She's actually being expected to put

00:26:17.740 --> 00:26:23.720
some doctor's feelings ahead of how she is being

00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:27.740
cared for as the pregnant woman who's supposed

00:26:27.740 --> 00:26:30.339
to be cared for. And then the other one was when

00:26:30.339 --> 00:26:33.119
she was looking for the book and she had gotten

00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.779
her friend's book and it had given her clues

00:26:36.779 --> 00:26:39.019
about what was going on and she was looking for

00:26:39.019 --> 00:26:41.039
it and she's like, where's my book? And the husband's

00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:43.470
like, oh, he got rid of it. She's like, that

00:26:43.470 --> 00:26:47.009
was my that he gave it to me. That meant something

00:26:47.009 --> 00:26:49.230
to me. And he was like, it was upsetting you.

00:26:49.750 --> 00:26:53.049
And I just like these little moments. I hope

00:26:53.049 --> 00:26:56.170
people watch this movie or see moments like that.

00:26:56.289 --> 00:26:59.190
If they're dating someone, these little things

00:26:59.190 --> 00:27:01.609
happen like that. There's little micro things.

00:27:01.730 --> 00:27:03.950
They might be easy to write off and be like,

00:27:04.029 --> 00:27:05.569
oh, they just weren't thinking or they're just

00:27:05.569 --> 00:27:09.849
being selfish in that moment. Or they were. You

00:27:09.849 --> 00:27:12.349
know, whatever. It was a momentary lapse in judgment.

00:27:12.910 --> 00:27:15.630
If you're seeing that kind of dynamic happening

00:27:15.630 --> 00:27:18.490
in a relationship with someone, red flags. Just

00:27:18.490 --> 00:27:21.869
run the other direction. It's a good rule of

00:27:21.869 --> 00:27:25.329
thumb. Absolutely. And there are so many instances

00:27:25.329 --> 00:27:28.730
of that that happen in this movie. Even when,

00:27:28.829 --> 00:27:32.130
let's talk about it, when he rapes her, that

00:27:32.130 --> 00:27:36.849
is a hard, hard, hard scene to watch. And when

00:27:36.849 --> 00:27:41.589
they're done and he's like, oh it's it's it's

00:27:41.589 --> 00:27:44.029
disgusting but he's basically saying oh it's

00:27:44.029 --> 00:27:47.569
okay no it's not yeah he's like well i didn't

00:27:47.569 --> 00:27:49.529
want to miss baby night so you were passed out

00:27:49.529 --> 00:27:52.130
anyway and it was kind of you know he kind of

00:27:52.130 --> 00:27:54.829
alludes to the fact that it was a little exciting

00:27:54.829 --> 00:27:57.710
for him yeah that is not okay and i was like

00:27:57.710 --> 00:28:03.170
hell no and he plays it off so nonchalantly like

00:28:03.170 --> 00:28:06.539
it's just okay and i'm like i'm if you sit if

00:28:06.539 --> 00:28:09.180
anybody out there man woman whatever if you watch

00:28:09.180 --> 00:28:12.140
that scene right there and you feel okay you

00:28:12.140 --> 00:28:15.980
got you need to get some help yeah the here is

00:28:15.980 --> 00:28:20.940
that being married the woman's life and body

00:28:20.940 --> 00:28:25.359
are his property and that is again it's not explicitly

00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.819
said it's just implied in that kind of behavior

00:28:27.819 --> 00:28:30.940
and that's something that i would like to think

00:28:30.940 --> 00:28:34.500
we've evolved um For some people, not so much.

00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.119
So I feel like this is a great time to just highlight

00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:42.420
that and say like, hey, that sort of culture,

00:28:42.660 --> 00:28:46.039
that sort of underlying belief system that we

00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:48.940
maybe have had in the past, it's dead now and

00:28:48.940 --> 00:28:51.539
we need to move on from that and call it out

00:28:51.539 --> 00:28:54.519
for what it is. Yeah, I'm going to tell you right

00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:57.660
now, watching that scene, it is not okay. Yeah,

00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.039
it feels very icky and triggering probably for

00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.440
a lot of women, I'm sure. I'm sure. It should.

00:29:03.710 --> 00:29:08.130
Everybody should feel icky watching that scene.

00:29:08.309 --> 00:29:11.509
And then that scene, it's early in the movie,

00:29:11.549 --> 00:29:15.710
but it leads to the climax of the movie. And

00:29:15.710 --> 00:29:20.529
we get to that famous or infamous final sequence

00:29:20.529 --> 00:29:24.869
where at this point, Rosemary, she finds the

00:29:24.869 --> 00:29:28.730
hidden door. She walks into this parlor and there's

00:29:28.730 --> 00:29:31.150
the black cradle. She's hearing a baby crying,

00:29:31.289 --> 00:29:33.049
and they're giving her lies about that. They're

00:29:33.049 --> 00:29:34.609
saying, oh, somebody else moved in. Yeah, she

00:29:34.609 --> 00:29:38.410
figures it out. Yeah, but that's the thing. That's

00:29:38.410 --> 00:29:40.470
also the thing, too. When she goes through that

00:29:40.470 --> 00:29:43.690
spill, and she lays out every single thing that

00:29:43.690 --> 00:29:46.490
has happened and has been done, and it's none

00:29:46.490 --> 00:29:51.069
of this, well, I think this happened. She says

00:29:51.069 --> 00:29:54.329
it factually. That's where you know she knows.

00:29:54.549 --> 00:29:58.640
And it hits, and it's like. Oh, my God. Like,

00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:05.259
what now? And when she's in there and she looks

00:30:05.259 --> 00:30:07.900
at the baby, I love this right here will stick

00:30:07.900 --> 00:30:10.480
with me forever. And she says, what have you

00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:15.019
done to its eyes? Roman says the line that seals

00:30:15.019 --> 00:30:18.079
the entire narrative. He has his father's eyes.

00:30:18.779 --> 00:30:21.819
And that one sticks. It's like, oh, God, that's

00:30:21.819 --> 00:30:25.940
so deep. Do you know what I love about that moment?

00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:29.099
What I love about it, and you know, because we've

00:30:29.099 --> 00:30:31.480
covered a lot of horror movies, is that they

00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:35.460
never show the baby. And they don't have to.

00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:40.859
Because the image in your mind is far more powerful.

00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:42.619
And this is what I believe about horror movies

00:30:42.619 --> 00:30:44.819
in general. You know this about me. I think when

00:30:44.819 --> 00:30:50.240
they don't show the things, the full horror of

00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:53.519
it all, the monster, the entity, whatever it

00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.680
might be. in this case it was the baby i mean

00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:00.099
it's like she thought maybe her baby was in danger

00:31:00.099 --> 00:31:02.319
that it was going to be sacrificed to the witches

00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.460
because of what she'd read about them and eating

00:31:04.460 --> 00:31:06.680
babies which i'm going to get to in a second

00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:11.000
but um but that she she looks and all you see

00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.160
is her reaction to the baby fantastic that's

00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.500
the twist that's the big twist here in this whole

00:31:17.500 --> 00:31:22.579
movie that makes this a masterpiece instead of

00:31:22.579 --> 00:31:26.440
just a supernatural monster flick she doesn't

00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.619
reject it the maternal instinct kicks in the

00:31:30.619 --> 00:31:34.099
human need to protect what is hers kicks in and

00:31:34.099 --> 00:31:38.119
overrides the sheer cosmic horror of what she's

00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.920
looking at she starts to rock the damn cradle

00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:45.460
are you serious yeah you know like that it's

00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:49.299
dark it's beautifully dark deeply twisted Yeah,

00:31:49.339 --> 00:31:51.900
it does. You see this moment and I knew it was

00:31:51.900 --> 00:31:54.539
so pivotal. It was going to be a pivotal moment

00:31:54.539 --> 00:31:57.839
in that is she's sitting down. Um, Minnie brings

00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:00.819
her a cup of tea and she's like with Tannis root.

00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:02.900
Like, I love that part where she's like, okay.

00:32:03.259 --> 00:32:05.740
And she's like, no, it's just Lipton's tea, darling.

00:32:05.819 --> 00:32:08.019
Just drink it. Whatever. You know, I love that

00:32:08.019 --> 00:32:10.539
part, but she's sitting there and you see her

00:32:10.539 --> 00:32:12.680
look over at the baby and you see them rocking

00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.700
the baby and you see this decision happening.

00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.700
This is Mia Farrow's like acting subtext skills.

00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.700
It's fantastic. She's just, this moment of decision

00:32:23.700 --> 00:32:28.190
is happening where she's like. she could and

00:32:28.190 --> 00:32:30.210
then this is me watching for the very first time

00:32:30.210 --> 00:32:32.690
i'm like she's either gonna pick up the dagger

00:32:32.690 --> 00:32:37.769
and stab the baby with it which is very catholic

00:32:37.769 --> 00:32:43.170
god -fearing woman right or what she ends up

00:32:43.170 --> 00:32:46.490
doing is making the decision that this isn't

00:32:46.490 --> 00:32:49.950
what i wanted but that's my baby one way or another

00:32:49.950 --> 00:32:54.420
that's my child and that's But you see that decision

00:32:54.420 --> 00:32:56.559
happening in her face as she walks over and is

00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:03.140
like, you're rocking him too fast. Yep. Yep.

00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:07.180
What a movie. I want to hear the witch stuff

00:33:07.180 --> 00:33:09.460
from that book. Is that some real stuff? Tell

00:33:09.460 --> 00:33:11.839
me about that. Let's get into that. I have to

00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:14.819
address that because I was almost shocked as

00:33:14.819 --> 00:33:16.599
I watched this movie. Like, I didn't know this

00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:19.200
was a witch movie. We didn't cover this in the

00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.799
witch movie project. And we totally could have.

00:33:22.059 --> 00:33:26.940
Yeah. You touch on the witch aspect of this movie,

00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.660
clearly. Like, this is still in an era of propaganda

00:33:30.660 --> 00:33:36.000
where we believed witches are satanic and witches

00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.559
were coinciding with each other. Like, we believed

00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:41.440
that they were all the same thing. And I have

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:45.400
worked very hard to put it out there that that

00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.940
is not true. That's not what that is. Do I believe

00:33:49.940 --> 00:33:52.369
that there may be witches that are satanic? hot

00:33:52.369 --> 00:33:55.130
probably like you know maybe but that doesn't

00:33:55.130 --> 00:33:58.230
mean the same thing they don't coincide so um

00:33:58.230 --> 00:34:00.710
so just have to put it out there that uh tannis

00:34:00.710 --> 00:34:02.910
root was mentioned many times in the movie it

00:34:02.910 --> 00:34:05.009
was fictional there's no such thing as tannis

00:34:05.009 --> 00:34:06.910
root they believe it may have been like an acronym

00:34:06.910 --> 00:34:12.349
a pseudo acronym for satan or you know maybe

00:34:12.349 --> 00:34:14.570
associated with that but tannis root is not a

00:34:14.570 --> 00:34:18.500
real thing um I would imagine that if something

00:34:18.500 --> 00:34:21.480
was an herb or something that had healing properties,

00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:25.619
it would smell good because your body would not

00:34:25.619 --> 00:34:29.099
be rejecting it. It would be accepting it. So

00:34:29.099 --> 00:34:33.460
that to consider. But these witches essentially

00:34:33.460 --> 00:34:37.840
start out to be exactly what the etymology of

00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.440
the word witch is coming from Wicca, which means

00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:46.099
wise person. They have herbs growing all in their

00:34:46.099 --> 00:34:49.300
houses. She's making an herbal tincture or herbal

00:34:49.300 --> 00:34:52.159
drink for her to support her pregnancy. I mean,

00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.699
this starts out to be very much like what witch

00:34:55.699 --> 00:35:00.420
would be. It's only the association with evil

00:35:00.420 --> 00:35:08.440
and devil and antichrist and Satan's child. satan

00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.059
worship and hail satan at the end when they're

00:35:11.059 --> 00:35:14.579
doing the it's all that that i think is is we

00:35:14.579 --> 00:35:17.599
need to put the kibosh on when it comes to our

00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.820
our image right i thought that that scene where

00:35:20.820 --> 00:35:22.360
they're doing all the hail satan stuff i was

00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:23.900
like you know what this looks like a good time

00:35:23.900 --> 00:35:26.400
minus the baby you know and all i was like this

00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.920
is not a bad party i was yeah i was all for it

00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:33.800
so you know nice place satanists and church of

00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:36.219
satan they're doing some um amazing charity work

00:35:36.219 --> 00:35:39.920
in our in our um world so the satanic temple

00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:43.599
let's get it right the satanic temple because

00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:45.519
i am a member i'm gonna tell you that now i remember

00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.519
the satanic temple is the one yep you go look

00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.699
into that and you'll see that that's not the

00:35:52.699 --> 00:35:57.219
hell satan one as much as the fuck the man as

00:35:57.219 --> 00:36:00.559
much because right right yes go look into that

00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.579
i think our freaks would appreciate the satanic

00:36:02.579 --> 00:36:06.650
temple um i actually have a hoodie I bought a

00:36:06.650 --> 00:36:08.570
hoodie once and it says hail Satan. It's just

00:36:08.570 --> 00:36:10.949
all, it's in all black. I got it from them. And

00:36:10.949 --> 00:36:14.230
part of the money went to fund an abortion clinic

00:36:14.230 --> 00:36:16.409
or something in Texas, I think was, was what

00:36:16.409 --> 00:36:20.030
it was. So, you know, not getting too political.

00:36:20.449 --> 00:36:24.170
That we could go into that are not quite depicted

00:36:24.170 --> 00:36:26.630
in a horror film. That's meant to scare God,

00:36:26.650 --> 00:36:29.130
feeling God, fearing people that maybe were Catholic

00:36:29.130 --> 00:36:32.090
or brought up Catholic and, and made to fear

00:36:32.090 --> 00:36:34.989
that, right. There's obviously been a lot of.

00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.039
a lot of centuries behind the propaganda of like,

00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:40.900
fear the devil and fear the demons and then this

00:36:40.900 --> 00:36:43.760
and this and the saints and the crosses and the

00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:47.420
crucifix and the blah, blah, blah. So I don't

00:36:47.420 --> 00:36:50.000
necessarily love the association of witches with

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.480
that side of it in this movie because the myth

00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:59.800
of eating children that witches had came from

00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:04.239
them being um assisting in abortions and assisting

00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:08.539
in women's pregnancy and women's health during

00:37:08.539 --> 00:37:13.380
you know during many many times in our history

00:37:13.380 --> 00:37:16.059
when they've been the ones caretaking women so

00:37:16.059 --> 00:37:19.059
they were given that bad rap because they wanted

00:37:19.059 --> 00:37:20.840
to believe that they wanted people to believe

00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.340
that witches were killing babies and then like

00:37:23.340 --> 00:37:26.199
drinking their blood for eternal youth or whatever

00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:29.840
the story goes just not true i think there's

00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:34.269
a A great metaphor, analogy in Rosemary's Baby.

00:37:34.710 --> 00:37:38.269
And it can show us that we spend, ourselves,

00:37:38.670 --> 00:37:44.670
spend so much time fighting monstrosities, abominations

00:37:44.670 --> 00:37:48.190
around us, that we do end up adopting them in

00:37:48.190 --> 00:37:50.210
a way, or nurturing them, or at least making

00:37:50.210 --> 00:37:52.750
them a part of our daily routine. Before you

00:37:52.750 --> 00:37:56.289
even know it, too, you can cut that out. Yeah,

00:37:56.329 --> 00:37:59.659
what you resist will persist. Yes, exactly. And

00:37:59.659 --> 00:38:02.199
I see that in this movie. And I see that in life.

00:38:02.500 --> 00:38:06.420
And Rosemary's Baby, I'm going to give you a

00:38:06.420 --> 00:38:10.320
recommendation of a movie to go watch now. And

00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:13.619
you probably didn't know about this. Apartment

00:38:13.619 --> 00:38:20.500
7A on Paramount by Natalie Erica James. It's

00:38:20.500 --> 00:38:23.699
the prequel to Rosemary's Baby. And it just came

00:38:23.699 --> 00:38:27.579
out a couple years ago. It's on Paramount. Minnie's

00:38:27.579 --> 00:38:31.639
in it. Played by a different actor. Yeah. I got

00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.159
to see that. See if there is good. I don't know

00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.119
if anyone's hiring me, but I could play Minnie,

00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:39.159
the younger version of Minnie. I was thinking,

00:38:39.179 --> 00:38:43.760
I was like, you know what? Halloween this year,

00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:46.639
you would make a great Minnie. You could do that.

00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:50.099
You could do that. Oh my gosh. You got to give

00:38:50.099 --> 00:38:55.219
me some curlers and some. Yeah. And then maybe

00:38:55.219 --> 00:38:58.949
Matt could be, could go as Roman. Yeah. Yeah,

00:38:58.969 --> 00:39:02.010
yeah. And then I guess that leaves Lindsay as

00:39:02.010 --> 00:39:04.010
Rosemary and me as Gaia. I don't know about that.

00:39:04.130 --> 00:39:07.489
I don't know if I can... We're not going like

00:39:07.489 --> 00:39:10.630
that. But no, I do. I think you could make a

00:39:10.630 --> 00:39:12.869
great Manny. Give us that impression one more

00:39:12.869 --> 00:39:15.489
time. Let me hear. Oh, it's okay, darling. I'll

00:39:15.489 --> 00:39:18.010
bring you your drink a little bit later, okay?

00:39:18.070 --> 00:39:19.750
You just make sure you drink that up. You drink

00:39:19.750 --> 00:39:22.650
that drink up. You drink it right up. You sound

00:39:22.650 --> 00:39:24.750
like her. You could look like her. I think you

00:39:24.750 --> 00:39:27.519
got it, Coco. I love it. I love her. I love the

00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:32.300
New York. She just feels like so perfect. Perfect

00:39:32.300 --> 00:39:36.159
New York older lady. I don't know. But yeah,

00:39:36.219 --> 00:39:38.000
one thing we didn't talk about, and I just want

00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:39.940
to briefly mention it. I know we've gone over

00:39:39.940 --> 00:39:44.139
time, but the short haircut, right? The short

00:39:44.139 --> 00:39:47.320
haircut that she gets. we just have to acknowledge

00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:50.420
the symbolism behind that and being her autonomy

00:39:50.420 --> 00:39:52.860
of like making the choice to cut her hair that

00:39:52.860 --> 00:39:55.760
short. And she thinks it's very vulgar. She thinks

00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:59.880
it's really in and the way she's treated by her

00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:02.380
husband about that haircut. Cause I kept asking

00:40:02.380 --> 00:40:04.659
myself, what's the significance here? Why did

00:40:04.659 --> 00:40:06.559
they all of a sudden cut her hair? What, why

00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.460
is that part of the story? Why does that. And

00:40:09.460 --> 00:40:12.579
I think it really was symbolic of, you know,

00:40:12.579 --> 00:40:15.579
he treating her like. The only thing that's wrong

00:40:15.579 --> 00:40:18.179
with you is that ugly haircut that you got. And,

00:40:18.219 --> 00:40:23.780
you know, I was like, bastard. Yeah. Yeah. Gotta

00:40:23.780 --> 00:40:27.460
say it. As we wrap up this episode, for the freaks

00:40:27.460 --> 00:40:30.460
out there, I want you to look at things you're

00:40:30.460 --> 00:40:33.760
currently nurturing in your life. Are you feeling

00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:37.739
something that elevates you? Or are you rocking

00:40:37.739 --> 00:40:39.860
a cradle for a coven that doesn't have your best

00:40:39.860 --> 00:40:43.400
interest at heart? Think about it. Really. I

00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.719
don't mean, are you part of Coco's coven? I'm

00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:48.820
Coco's coven. That's got a nice ring to it. Yeah.

00:40:48.900 --> 00:40:51.739
If I formed a coven, it'd be great. I think you

00:40:51.739 --> 00:40:54.500
should. I think we could get you a coven if you

00:40:54.500 --> 00:40:56.460
want one. I mean, you go have mom's day by yourself.

00:40:56.480 --> 00:41:02.760
You could have a coven by yourself. My coven

00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.199
is going to mom's day off. That's right. All

00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:07.659
right, that's going to wrap it up for this edition

00:41:07.659 --> 00:41:11.300
of Parallel Frequencies on Rosemary's Baby. We

00:41:11.300 --> 00:41:13.460
may have to revisit this again because it's going

00:41:13.460 --> 00:41:15.340
to be one of those that a lot of things pop up

00:41:15.340 --> 00:41:17.039
and I'm going to be like, oh, shit, forgot to

00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:20.219
talk about that. Apartment 7A, go watch the prequel.

00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.820
Maybe we do an episode on that one. Yeah, but

00:41:23.820 --> 00:41:26.559
this was fun. We've been looking forward to this

00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:29.119
one for a while. Parallel Frequencies, I'm just

00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.619
playing. She's Coco, you are the freaks, and

00:41:31.619 --> 00:41:32.980
we will see you on the other side.