Roof Man Movie Review: The Insane True Story of Jeffrey Manchester

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Have you ever watched somebody fall so far from

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grace, it looked so clean that it was almost

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like choreography? Because that's what our movie

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that we're talking about today is. We're talking

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about Channing Tatum's Roof Man. Yes. It is Parallel

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Frequencies. I am Just Flame, this is Coco, and

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you are the freaks. What's up, Coco? Welcome.

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We're at Land of a Thousand Hills again. We love

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it here. Yeah. We love Amber. Shout out to Amber.

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Haven't seen her in a while. No. Oh, you got

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that going down. I do socializing with my witch

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friends. I love that. What else you got going

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on this weekend? I was invited to a pajama party.

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See how that goes. Now, hold on. I don't know

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if I fit in with a pajama party crowd, but. What?

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I don't know. That feels a little posh. I would

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say it feels a little lazy, though. Like, I would

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go to a pajama party. I picture this being like

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a champagne flutes kind of pajama party. Oh.

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Like Real Housewives of Salt Lake City might

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do. Is it with Miss International? Okay, okay.

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Never mind then. That's going to be a little

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posh. I think so. Which is why I said yes, because

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I'm like, I could use a little bit of leveling

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up. Yeah, I mean, my idea of a pajama party is

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like not leaving the house, putting a bunch of

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movies on, get some sleeping bags out. It's probably

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not going to be that. With my kids? That's probably

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normally what I would do. Yeah, right? Yeah.

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I like to just have some chill get -togethers.

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My tea and tarot nights are literally just that.

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I just bring out tea. I say, bring whatever you

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want to eat. Yeah. Wear whatever you want. Lindsay

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will be over there. Yeah. Oh, I can't wait. And

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she doesn't leave the house. She doesn't even

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get out of the house. I know we have to pull

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her out. I haven't seen her in like two weeks

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myself. So you're going to get to see my wife

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and I haven't even seen her. She likes me better.

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We text each other every once in a while. It's

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probably true. It is funny how me and you spend

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time together and then you and her do. I know.

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And then me and her have conversations. Do you

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compare notes? No, we talk to each other. We

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find out what was going on because it'll be like,

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oh, I was talking about this. Oh, that's awesome.

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You did that today. It's kind of, we find out

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each other's days. Yeah. Because, yeah. I'm like

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the conduit. Yeah. I like that. We should have

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a nickname for you like that. The Conduit. Yeah.

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Time to go see Courtney. I think the witch tag

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has outlived its purpose at this point. You are

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far more than that. You are a Conduit. Okay.

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Daybreak's Conduit. Let's go with it. Do you

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know what I'm excited about? I'm in a good mood.

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Can you tell? Yeah. It's Coachella weekend again.

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Mm -hmm. Couchella. If you do it that way, which

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I do because I'm not going out there. I'm telling

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you, last weekend it looked like them people

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were on Arrakis in Dune. Yeah. Like, it was wild.

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The stuff that they had wrapped up. I love the

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drip, as they call it, though. Yeah. I do. I

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love all that. I like nature, but I don't like

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being uncomfortable to that level. And they're

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camping out there. Yeah. Good for you. I had

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the opportunity to go quite a few times and just

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never did because I was like, nah, man. I'm good.

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I'm not going down there for the weekend and

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then have to come back in here to Big Boy Studio

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on Monday morning covered in dirt, soot, whatever

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else was out there in that desert. I have been

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to Coachella, though, but just not the festival.

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Indio. Indio, California. It's beautiful. Yeah.

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It's a beautiful drive, too, if you're not going

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when Coachella's going on. Because then you just

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literally, you could walk faster than you could

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get there. But yeah, it's a beautiful drive.

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Middle of nowhere, really. But I can't wait for

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that. Remember, Saturday night, 9 -inch noise.

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I'm telling you, if you missed it last weekend,

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iconic. And this will be the second weekend in

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a row to see it. But let's get to Feature Friday.

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Feature Friday. We got Feature Friday. We are

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talking about the one with Channing Tatum, but

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not the Magic Mike Channing Tatum. Not the Step

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Up. Not the Charming Rogue with a wink. But he

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is handsome in this. I mean, always. It's hard

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for him not to be, right? He's one of those.

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Can he play a part where he's not handsome? I

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don't think that's possible. Well, the difference

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in this role and some of his other roles is this

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one feels like it's a version of him that's standing

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on the edge, low key, hoping nobody pulls him

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back. Because there's not much that's keeping

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him from just being this screen stealing, really.

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Because he does. Let's just say it. I mean, he

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steals every scene that he's in in this movie.

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Yeah. And this isn't like a glow -up story. This

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is the peel back the layers and see what's underneath

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story. But this one's also based on a true story.

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That is where I think he really shines because

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the very end in the credits and you have to like.

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Tell your streaming service to not skip the credits.

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I had to learn that. Because there's more going

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on during the credits. But they like to skip

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to the... No, they're like, and moving on. And

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you're like, hold on. I have more... Wait, there's

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more going on here. I want to see. You get to

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see the pictures of the real Jeffrey Manchester.

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Okay. The real Lee, the girlfriend that he has

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in a story played by Kirsten Dunst in this movie.

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You get to see the pictures of him and his family.

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You get to see kind of... Who the real guy was

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and the comparison of, you know, how did Channing

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Tatum do? And I think he did excellent. He looks

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like a very charming guy. Yeah. And he played

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it like that. I've never heard it. Here's the

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thing about it. I've never heard anything bad

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about Channing Tatum in Hollywood. I haven't

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heard. I've heard he's a good dude. I've heard

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he gives back. He does all the right things.

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Yeah. And I love to see him get more roles. I

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like his movies. I'm a fan of his. I'm a huge

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fan of his. And this one, he does differently

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than his other movies. I do think he is off the

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chain, per se. I think they've let him loose

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to see what he can do. And, you know, it's not

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loud and flashy. He's playing some dude who,

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basically, it's like he almost held his breath

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his whole life. Like you know something we don't.

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Or maybe he thinks he does. Because that's what

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this character, Jeffrey Winchester, is. Is he

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a bumbling idiot that just happens to fall into

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the right thing? The success? Criminal success.

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Criminal success. That's why I was looking for

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the right word. Because right thing was not the

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right way to say it. Successfully criminal? Yeah,

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but he does. Or is that an oxymoron? What do

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you think about that? He made some dumb ass mistakes.

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Yeah, some of the choices when we were watching

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the movie, we were like, I mean, he's clearly

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brilliant. And the police officers who see what

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he's done, how he was arrested the first time

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for the robberies that he made, but then later

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escaping from prison and the way that he does

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it, they're admitting he's a very intelligent

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human being. We're working with somebody who

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really knows his stuff. At the same time... He's

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got this superhuman level ability to see these

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details and to plan these things out and to observe.

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And then the choices that he actually makes are

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like, really? Is this like an idiot savant? I

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don't even know if you could call it that. I'm

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not sure. But what threads both of those two

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sides together is his charm and likability. So,

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really, you're not ever watching this movie,

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and I think, again, that's where Channing Tatum

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is playing this character just right, is you

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don't hate him. And you're not mad at him. And

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you're not like, this is an evil guy doing criminals.

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He should be in prison. You really genuinely

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feel bad that he has to go to prison and that

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he did these things and that he thought he had

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no other choice and that there's this moral conundrum

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there. Everyone talking about this guy, the real

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Jeffrey, and in the movie as the nicest guy they've

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ever met. So idiot, savant, I don't know, but

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the nicest guy they've ever met. You always hear

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that kindness will get you further than most

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things, right? And then it ends up being his

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downfall because he could not just leave Lee

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and her girls without saying goodbye at the end.

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Again, spoilers if you haven't seen it. He does

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get arrested, and he's in prison. I mean, honestly,

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I don't know why people are watching this show

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at all if you haven't watched the movies we're

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talking about. I know. Unless you don't want

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to see them. I always have that little touch

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of hesitation where I'm like, and this is where

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I'm going to say something. Yeah, but let me

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talk about this movie from the 30 ,000 -foot

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view because the whole movie, it doesn't rush

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you. This movie is like stalking you. Slow burns,

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quiet rooms, moments where silence is louder

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than an actual dialogue itself. Have you ever

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sat in a room and you feel like something's about

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to go wrong, but you can't prove it? That's the

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whole movie. Oh, yeah. The whole movie, you're

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sitting there on the edge. Like, what's going

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to happen? Not a horror movie, but there were

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moments in the movie where I was like, oh, no,

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oh, no, oh, no, oh, no. And I was, I mean, almost

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covering my eyes because I just didn't want to

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see what might happen. Exactly. Break down what

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this guy did. in the movie and in real life because

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he broke into like McDonald's Burger Kings Walmart's

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Blockbuster you guys remember those remember

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Blockbuster yeah Toys R Us he was really I mean

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mechanically minded he had spent time in the

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Air Force so he you know part of the military

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so he was just really capable but he He observed

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the patterns of workers in the places that he

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was staking out, and then he climbed through

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the roof, which is why it's called Roof Man,

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right? He would always come down from the roof,

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and then he was extremely polite to the workers.

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You need to get your coats on. I'm going to put

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you in the freezer. Are you okay? Oh, you don't

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have a coat? He gave away his coat to one of

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the guys because he was like... So again, you're

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just seeing all this development of character.

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Yeah, he does that in the movie. He makes sure

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that everybody's comfortable. He's like, you

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don't have a coat? Yeah, he's like, make sure

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everybody... Okay, here's my coat. And the guy

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that's being interviewed on the news is like,

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he was actually really nice. He gave me his coat.

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So he was known for it. And he got away with

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it for a long time until he was caught and arrested

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and, of course, sent to prison for a sentence

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that was going to be 45 years when you added

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up all the months that he had accumulated. worth

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of damage but again you see his um knowing that

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this means he's not going to see his daughter

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that his ex -wife is saying we're cutting the

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cord we're not going to allow you to contact

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us and he's devastated i mean you feel the love

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he has for his family and he mostly did this

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for them he wasn't doing it just because he's

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like love robin and i love money i'm greedy It

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was really like, this is the only way I can think

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or fathom to take care of my family. Which I'm

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going to get a little bit into poverty culture

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here in a second. Deviate from the movie just

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a snitch. But for now, I'll stick with the facts.

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As a viewer at home, though, a character like

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a Jeffrey, played by Channing Tatum, we're watching

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this, and do you trust a character like this?

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Or do you feel like something's off the whole

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time, kind of knowing what's in store? I mean,

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how he charmed everyone just enough and gave

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only enough details and clearly, I mean, how

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he pulled this off is really incredible. There

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are people like this, though. And then to find

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out at the end, I mean, even Lee is like, I really,

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I was mad at you at first, but I can't really

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stay mad at you. You... I see it now as an adventure

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because we had fun. And you kind of do see it

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that way. You're like, I would be devastated

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if this guy I trusted and brought into my life

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and my daughter's life ended up being a criminal

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on the run and he's going to prison forever now.

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Yeah, you'd be mad. You'd be hurt. You'd be like,

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my trust was broken. But he was also just such

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a genuine guy. How long can you be mad? The fact

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that he's only hurting corporations. Yeah. It's

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almost like a Robin Hood type situation. You

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know, he's robbing from the rich and giving to

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the poor. They're not going to miss it. They're

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not going to miss it. But then again, he went

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to Toys R Us and stole a bunch of video games

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and sold them. And Toys R Us is out of business

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now. Was he the reason? I probably had some of

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those video games he sold. Because I used to

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buy mine off online, you know. aftermarket and

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stuff like that. But there are actually people

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like this in real life. We've seen people like

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this who can get whatever they want, really.

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And it's charm or something. It's attractive.

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It reminds me of another movie, Catch Me If You

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Can. Remember that one with Tom Hanks, Leo? Yeah.

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And again, that movie is showing the history

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and past of the character who turns out to be

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a con man. That kind of serves my point is that,

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yeah, we can say they did all these bad things.

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Obviously, these are morally or ethically wrong

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things to do. But it also kind of matters where

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the come from is. It matters where, you know,

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Jeffrey, as opposed to somebody who is like maliciously

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greedy, feels like I can do this and get away

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with it. No one else matters but me. His friend

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Steve in the movie says, you got to have a cold

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heart. You don't have what it takes to be a criminal.

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You don't have that cold hearted, cut people

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off, do what it takes, think of only yourself

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kind of way about you. And it ends up being his

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downfall because he couldn't just leave town.

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He probably could have. He probably could have

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made it. He would have gotten away with everything,

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probably, if he hadn't come back. So, I mean,

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there is a little bit different. a little bit

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different come from? Would you talk about, like,

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he's not malicious. Mostly he did this because

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he wanted to buy a bike for his daughter for

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his birthday, and that's where it all started

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in the beginning. Yeah. And we got to talk about

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it because the movie, you said, too, it kind

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of feels different. The vibe is different. It's

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got a different vibe, and it does. When we live

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in a time where everybody's trying to curate

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their own highlight reels these days, Roof man's

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like, nah, let's roll the security footage instead,

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the uncut version, the one you don't post. And

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that's what we're watching in this movie. And

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there's a certain kind of movie where you can

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almost smell something bad's about to come, like

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burnt toast. Yeah. And this movie just kind of

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marinates in that smell the whole time. Yeah.

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What do you think? Almost even, I mean, in addition

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to that, it's not just, oh, something bad. It's

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like. When is this all going to fall apart for

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him? He can't keep this up. This is going to

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fall apart. We know that he's going to be arrested

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at some point. So you're just kind of waiting

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for that. Like, what's going to be the thing

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that makes this all crumble on top of him? He

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gets caught. Peter Dinklage playing the boss.

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Can I just say for a second how much I love Peter

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Dinklage? Aside from Game of Thrones, which...

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Freaks, no, is one of my favorite, or if not

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the favorite, my favorite movie show. But Peter

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Dinklage, I just love that man so much. He's

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so fantastic in everything that he does. And

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he's kind of the jerk boss, right? And gets caught,

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comes in one night late, I guess, you know, to...

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As bosses and managers of Toys R Us may happen

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to do, they're like, I got to go into the store

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and grab something out of my office or something.

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And Jeffrey is naked because he's been bathing

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in the bathroom, has all of his stuff out drying

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in the middle of the store, so almost gets caught

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and ends up still hiding in his hiding spot for

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a few more weeks. Yeah. And there's this incident

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of the naked man in the Toys R Us. I don't know

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it's related to the guy who escaped from jail.

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I wonder how many people are living in a store

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right now and we don't have a clue. Oh, you know

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what I want to watch next? Is that documentary

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of the kids who lived in a mall? Oh, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're going to have to put

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that on the list, too. That just reminded me

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of that. Let me ask you something for real, though,

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because this is like a philosophical type question,

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but for the freaks out there as well. How many

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people... are one bad day away from becoming

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somebody else entirely. Kind of like how he was.

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Or just the opposite of that. How many are one

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good decision away from changing everything?

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But we don't ever know that. We don't ever really

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know what's on that other... Like, when we look

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at people maybe that are unhoused or in a clinic

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in rehabilitation for addiction, we, some of

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us, have been through that. But others of us...

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look at that and go oh poor them and oh they're

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them and i'm me and i'll never be them that kind

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of like even subconsciously in our head we're

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like oh i would never do that i would never be

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in that position i would never put myself there

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yeah and we don't realize how close we are from

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being in that position from addiction taking

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hold of us and from um something in our life

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shifting that's out of our control yeah that

00:17:54.859 --> 00:17:57.940
makes us um Now without a home, without somewhere

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to live. We like to other people instead of,

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and this is kind of, again, like going back to

00:18:05.099 --> 00:18:08.799
the moral and ethical side of Roofman, of Jeffrey,

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of what he did. I just want to point out that

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while we can look at Jeffrey and say, I mean,

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all you had to do was go get a job and make money

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using those powerful skills you had. In the beginning,

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his friend Steve basically points it out and

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says, You have a superpower, man. You have a

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weight of looking at the world that nobody else

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does. Use that. I don't know. I don't think he

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was pushing him to a life of crime. I think that's

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where he went with it. But we like to judge that.

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We like to say, I would never. But that's what

00:18:40.869 --> 00:18:44.420
I'm saying. That one decision. Yeah. But what

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if, and this is where I want to go back to, in

00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:50.079
studying in school, or actually when I was a

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teacher and I worked in a very low -income area

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where a lot of transient students, immigrants

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coming in and out of the country, and also people

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who came from generational poverty were my students.

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And we were required to read a framework for

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understanding poverty by Ruby K. Payne, PhD.

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I'm bringing this up because... I want to highlight

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that in the beginning of this movie, the effort

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to say, okay, I have these skills. I could go

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make money with them. Or I could use these skills

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and rob a Burger King and get that money. We

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can judge that and say, there's a lot of us that

00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:32.279
would judge that and say, well, that was wrong.

00:19:32.339 --> 00:19:33.720
Like, that was stupid. Why would you do that?

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Why won't you just make your money the right

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way? Whatever. Truthfully. You have to understand

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that generational poverty creates a culture of

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poverty in which people don't see any other way.

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Like, we can say we can see another way, but

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that may be because we were raised in a household

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that made money honestly. Exactly. Or had access

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to education or had access to health care or

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had access to any one of any many privileges.

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Any resource that you don't have is something

00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:06.369
that. Yeah. It's our neural pathways limiting

00:20:06.369 --> 00:20:09.589
us to what we can do to solve a problem or make

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a need possible for us to be fulfilled. And so

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I want people to just be aware of that in watching

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this movie, that that's what I pulled out of

00:20:19.289 --> 00:20:22.049
that story was, gosh, you know, we can judge

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people all we want, but we don't know what their

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life is like, and we don't know the way their

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brain thinks, and we don't know how they've been

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raised or what they're used to. It's the same

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thing as you can see a driver on the road. and

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they make a mistake, and you're like, you stupid

00:20:37.630 --> 00:20:40.150
idiot, why did you make that mistake? What if

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in that car, they're just learning to drive and

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they've never seen a roundabout before in their

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life? Exactly. So they're like, whoa, what's

00:20:47.390 --> 00:20:49.650
going on? Oh, I don't know. Oh, oh, whoops. And

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they're trying to figure it out. You just judged

00:20:52.849 --> 00:20:55.009
them for making a mistake, but they've never

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been in that position before, and you're acting

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like you're superior to them because you know

00:21:00.730 --> 00:21:03.009
what to do in that situation. You don't know

00:21:03.009 --> 00:21:05.390
somebody's story. Right. That's what it boils

00:21:05.390 --> 00:21:09.789
down to. Generationally, ancestrally, everything.

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Unless you believe in simulation theory, everybody

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is the main character in their own life. You've

00:21:15.750 --> 00:21:17.329
got to think about that. They've got their own

00:21:17.329 --> 00:21:21.009
set of problems just like you do. Yeah. So that

00:21:21.009 --> 00:21:23.109
person driving that car, that's crazy to me when

00:21:23.109 --> 00:21:24.690
you think about it like that. But then again,

00:21:24.789 --> 00:21:27.789
I do believe in simulation theory. So we'll get

00:21:27.789 --> 00:21:29.349
to that. That's going to be a whole other conversation

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for us one day. We could get experiences. I was

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probably walking around Hollywood Boulevard and

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I was just like, bro, just make one good choice.

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Just one. I'm not asking for a full life overhaul.

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Just a silent Tuesday. Like, that's what I was

00:21:43.569 --> 00:21:45.369
looking for every once in a while. Yeah. But

00:21:45.369 --> 00:21:47.329
no, we don't get that. We don't get that, though.

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You know, you don't really get that opportunity

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to do that in the moment. I think that the biggest

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villain of this movie is loneliness. Does not

00:21:56.230 --> 00:21:58.490
announce itself. It just sits there like an empty

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chair. That nobody talks about. And I think that

00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:05.359
that is the big villain arc here. Really, because

00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.900
the genuine connection that Jeffrey is looking

00:22:07.900 --> 00:22:10.960
for when he goes to church. I don't think he

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goes to church. I mean, obviously, I think he

00:22:12.740 --> 00:22:14.480
has a crush on the girl who works at Toys R Us.

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So he's going to where her church is, right?

00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:19.640
Wants to kind of impress her, maybe. But I don't

00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:23.029
know if that was his initial motivation. No,

00:22:23.029 --> 00:22:24.289
I don't think so. I think when he started going

00:22:24.289 --> 00:22:26.809
to church and he was like, oh, these people don't

00:22:26.809 --> 00:22:29.130
recognize me. This might be okay. I might be

00:22:29.130 --> 00:22:31.990
able to, like, stay here. And he starts, you

00:22:31.990 --> 00:22:34.369
know, being real charming and he goes to the

00:22:34.369 --> 00:22:37.450
singles thing and it's all women. I loved that

00:22:37.450 --> 00:22:39.289
scene. Yeah. But then he starts flirting with

00:22:39.289 --> 00:22:41.549
everybody. He's like, I'm so lucky I get to hang

00:22:41.549 --> 00:22:43.789
out with all you beautiful ladies and I'm looking

00:22:43.789 --> 00:22:46.750
for the second Mrs. Whatever his made -up last

00:22:46.750 --> 00:22:49.809
name was. He's so charming and so lovely and

00:22:49.809 --> 00:22:53.259
you genuinely think he's not. I don't think he's

00:22:53.259 --> 00:22:55.519
being charming just to get away with something.

00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:58.339
It's genuine. He was lonely. Yeah. And I think

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when he kind of integrates himself into Lee's

00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:04.039
family with her girls, he misses his kids. He

00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:07.380
can't see them anymore. He's not allowed in prison

00:23:07.380 --> 00:23:10.740
or on the run. He can't contact them. And he's

00:23:10.740 --> 00:23:13.160
lonely. So I think you're right. I think that's

00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:17.180
the underlying theme going on. What's your final

00:23:17.180 --> 00:23:24.240
thoughts on the roof man? Kind and understanding

00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:26.779
to people, even if you don't understand why they

00:23:26.779 --> 00:23:29.240
do the things they do. Or you can completely

00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:32.359
disagree with the things they do and say that

00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:36.900
was wrong, point blank, just final stand. Wrong

00:23:36.900 --> 00:23:41.339
is wrong. But as a person, not every situation

00:23:41.339 --> 00:23:43.559
is exactly the same. The same person committing

00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:46.000
those crimes, you know, might have had really

00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:48.599
a very different story that is malicious and

00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:51.559
evil. And Jeffrey's story, not so much. Yeah.

00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:56.240
I like this. I really like this movie. It's on

00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:58.519
a couple different streaming services, I noticed.

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Which one did you check it out on? I think I

00:24:00.819 --> 00:24:03.059
watched it on Peacock or Paramount. I watched

00:24:03.059 --> 00:24:05.299
it on Paramount. I don't even remember, actually.

00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:08.220
Or Prime, Amazon. We're naming them all. I think

00:24:08.220 --> 00:24:11.900
it was Prime. Wherever you can stream it, go

00:24:11.900 --> 00:24:14.599
watch this movie. And I'm going to tell you,

00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:16.079
I'm going to warn you, if you're going to watch

00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:18.559
it, you're either going to love it or you're

00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:22.319
going to be like, bling, Coco. Why don't you

00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:26.839
make me watch emotional anxiety for two hours?

00:24:26.900 --> 00:24:29.299
There's no middle ground in this movie, really.

00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.460
Yeah, but it's really real. And, I mean, Kirsten

00:24:32.460 --> 00:24:37.200
Dunst in her prime, you know, she's done so many

00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:42.940
amazing things. And I love her for being, I think

00:24:42.940 --> 00:24:46.980
she's a little older than me, but she shows her

00:24:46.980 --> 00:24:53.259
natural self. I don't want to say aging because,

00:24:53.339 --> 00:24:55.700
like, aren't we all? Yes. I don't want there

00:24:55.700 --> 00:24:57.839
to be a stigma about, like, oh, good for her.

00:24:57.900 --> 00:24:59.839
She's older and she's still working in Hollywood.

00:25:00.019 --> 00:25:04.420
Meh. No, of course she is. But I love that she

00:25:04.420 --> 00:25:07.220
showed, like, this is a single mom living in

00:25:07.220 --> 00:25:09.940
an apartment, working at Toys R Us. This is what

00:25:09.940 --> 00:25:12.359
that would be like. This is this person, this

00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.839
character, fully and raw and everything that

00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:20.339
she is. Love that. Incredible movie. The Roof

00:25:20.339 --> 00:25:24.009
Man. I will tell you, I was a little, little

00:25:24.009 --> 00:25:26.470
disappointed. Because I didn't look at what this

00:25:26.470 --> 00:25:28.869
movie was about. And I didn't watch the trailer.

00:25:29.069 --> 00:25:30.809
So I see the roof man, and I'm thinking, oh,

00:25:30.849 --> 00:25:34.269
I'm about to see a superhero movie where I don't

00:25:34.269 --> 00:25:35.609
know what was going to happen. I don't know how

00:25:35.609 --> 00:25:38.210
you turn into the roof man, some nuclear roof

00:25:38.210 --> 00:25:41.069
reactor or something. Maybe he is. But this movie

00:25:41.069 --> 00:25:43.289
is incredible. On a deeper level, he's a superhero.

00:25:44.430 --> 00:25:47.920
Do you know that today is Friday? Yep. So before

00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:49.880
we get out of here, I think we got to do Freaky

00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:52.980
Friday. Oh, yeah. And we got to tell the freaks

00:25:52.980 --> 00:25:54.160
out there, we got to go through some of their

00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:56.480
comments. Okay. And I got one right here. Lay

00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:58.279
it on me. I got one right here. And this was

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about Robin Williams toys. You got the DVD now.

00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:05.039
I got it now. We're watching it on Sunday. You

00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:08.160
guys got to go check out that episode. That one

00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:15.150
got us a lot of hits. At Crypto Spool. Sporodium138

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says, they had VR in the late 90s. The rigs cost

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thousands of dollars. There was a cyber cafe

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in my local mall that had two of them. You could

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rent them. This was ahead of its time. Because

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we were talking about VR and how they had it

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in the movie. And you know what? I did start

00:26:28.970 --> 00:26:31.309
thinking about it. Nintendo had a Virtual Boy

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VR, this big giant. They did have one back in

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the 90s, somewhere in there. So it was sure it

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was ahead of its time. I haven't tried it yet.

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I've never tried VR. Oh, my God. I had a crazy

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job. Should we have me try it and we'll just

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film that? I worked for Meta. And I was working

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on that now failed, defunct project, the Metaverse.

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I was in there. And that's what I did every day.

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I was working in some prototype gear. And that

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VR, it's insane. Did it stick up your nose? No,

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no, no. Not this one. Those who watch toys will

00:27:05.900 --> 00:27:07.319
know what I'm talking about. Yeah, no, not this

00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:12.970
one. We didn't put it up our nose. Okay. Lil

00:27:12.970 --> 00:27:17.589
Ruby, 16, says, and this was about our physical

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media versus Mandela effect, Fruit of the Loom

00:27:19.690 --> 00:27:23.230
changed name to get away from law suing for damages

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and such and removed the horn from their logo.

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Yeah, but there's a lot of people that claim

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it wasn't there at all. I don't think it was

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ever there. I don't think that's a Mandela effect.

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So we're going to have to look into that. If

00:27:36.450 --> 00:27:38.750
you haven't noticed the Fruit of the Loom logo.

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Go look into that and go down that rabbit hole.

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I mean, I do feel like maybe something else in

00:27:43.220 --> 00:27:45.619
the same time period did have a cornucopia thing.

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But I think we're, in our brains, putting them

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together. It's got to be something. It's got

00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.579
to be something. I saw a weird Mandela effect

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video. Brandon just came out this week. And it

00:27:59.819 --> 00:28:02.940
was about Nostradamus. Remember Nostradamus?

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We heard about Nostradamus all our lives growing

00:28:05.539 --> 00:28:08.960
up. Yeah. And there was always a term. That the

00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.019
tabloids or whatever was writing about. There

00:28:11.019 --> 00:28:13.400
was always a word that went... Right. What was

00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:19.779
that word? Exactly. You don't know. And you can

00:28:19.779 --> 00:28:22.160
come up with any word. You can come up with any

00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.119
name right now, any word, predictor, prognosticator,

00:28:25.180 --> 00:28:26.980
all these things, and it's not going to scratch

00:28:26.980 --> 00:28:30.599
that itch that there's a word missing. You ruined

00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:36.160
my day. There's a word missing. Nostradamus prophecy?

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Does it scratch the itch? See? You tell me. You

00:28:41.539 --> 00:28:43.779
tell me. Go look into that one. Tell me. Somebody

00:28:43.779 --> 00:28:47.680
millennial age, let's just say, because we heard

00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.019
about it in the 90s. Yeah, it was always on the

00:28:50.019 --> 00:28:51.720
tablets. Everywhere. And there's a word that

00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:53.200
went with it. It'd be like a volcano eruption,

00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:55.640
and they'd be like, Nostradamus predicted. But

00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:58.519
it was something, Nostradamus. There was a word

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that went with it. And I'm telling you, come

00:29:00.420 --> 00:29:02.019
up with any word right now, and it's not going

00:29:02.019 --> 00:29:04.720
to scratch the itch of what that word actually

00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.160
was. Interesting. Crazy, right? Got your mind

00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:10.410
broken. I will pretend to listen to what you're

00:29:10.410 --> 00:29:12.490
saying next while I'm thinking about that. Yeah.

00:29:12.730 --> 00:29:14.470
You're going to love this one. This was on the

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F1 versus NASCAR. Yep. She told the truth. NASCAR

00:29:19.349 --> 00:29:22.609
does not, does in fact not live up to IndyCar.

00:29:23.069 --> 00:29:26.230
Aww. And that is... Someone agreed with me? At

00:29:26.230 --> 00:29:28.890
the local seat. Listen, I got nothing against

00:29:28.890 --> 00:29:31.269
NASCAR. And I love the people who love NASCAR.

00:29:31.569 --> 00:29:33.890
It's all fine. I mean, opinions are just opinions,

00:29:33.990 --> 00:29:37.160
right? Like, who cares? But... It's just not

00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.720
for me. Yeah. You got people agreeing. In my

00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.140
view, in my very limited view, and my husband

00:29:43.140 --> 00:29:44.440
would disagree with me probably because he's

00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:47.299
a car guy. But I'm like, they're just cars. Just

00:29:47.299 --> 00:29:52.359
cars. Just cars. Indy cars are like race cars.

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They're like rocket ships with fins on the back.

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And then NASCAR is just like. Drive fast and

00:29:59.619 --> 00:30:01.839
turn left is what they say. They say drive fast

00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:03.420
and turn left. That's all you do in NASCAR. I

00:30:03.420 --> 00:30:05.380
know that's not all it is, you guys. Don't come

00:30:05.380 --> 00:30:08.200
at me. I get that I'm being ignorant here. I

00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:09.579
get it. I thought they would come at you harder

00:30:09.579 --> 00:30:11.880
than this, but they've been siding with you at

00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:13.940
this point. So if there's NASCAR people out there,

00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.859
argue this. We need to hear it. And if somebody

00:30:18.859 --> 00:30:22.700
can give us that word for what Nostradamus. I'm

00:30:22.700 --> 00:30:25.720
telling you, you can't. I feel like it starts

00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.460
with a P, and then I feel like it starts with

00:30:27.460 --> 00:30:30.099
something. You go all over the place, but you

00:30:30.099 --> 00:30:32.500
can't piece it together in your head, right?

00:30:33.690 --> 00:30:38.369
Work cool. Doesn't work. Not it. This is Parallel

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Frequencies. I'm just playing. This is Coco.

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You are the freaks. And we will see you on the

00:30:42.309 --> 00:30:42.730
other side.