Gilmore Girls Analysis: Why Stars Hollow is the Ultimate "Weighted Blanket" Show

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Today we're stepping into a town that shouldn't

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exist but somehow lives rent -free in the collective

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subconscious of everyone who ever felt like an

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outsider looking in. I'm talking about Stars

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Hollow, Gilmore Girls. I know a lot of people

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just got excited and some others out there are

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probably checking their watch, but listen to

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me. This is a very important show. It was an

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emotional survival guide disguised as a WB dramedy,

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really. Welcome to Parallel Frequencies. I am

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Jess Blaine. She is Coco. You are the freaks.

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What's up, Coco? How are you? Doing great. I

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binge -watched Gilmore Girls for like a week

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straight. Freaks are going to love this because

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I think that whether you're a huge fan of Gilmore

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Girls or you've never seen it, you're in good

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company here with us. Yeah. Hope that the fans,

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the ultra fans of Gilmore Girls are nice to us

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because this was my first watch of Gilmore Girls.

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This was? I'll admit, I didn't rewatch it. I've

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only caught it episodes here and there over the

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years. 2016, they did the reboot. I did watch

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that because I think I was crushing on some girl

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who was interested in it, so I had to watch it.

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Don't really know what was going on, but I enjoyed

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the show. Yeah. We did TV moms yesterday. Lorelai.

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Yes. Lorelai should have been one we mentioned,

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right? Well, I knew we were mentioning it today.

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I knew we were going to talk about Lorelai as

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a TV mom. And we were going to talk about this

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mother -daughter show. And on our Mother's Day,

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we're doing Mother's Day shows and movies this

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week and next week. So kind of fill up the month

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of May just dedicated to moms. And so, yeah,

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we're dedicating today fully to this. Mother

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-daughter show wrapped fully around Lorelei.

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But we had some yesterday. I mean, you and I

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were talking before the show started recording

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yesterday and after. And, I mean, we could have

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gone on and on about all the TV moms we didn't

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talk about. Mm -hmm. Any that you missed? It

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kept me up late last night, for sure. About those

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TV moms. I really think we should have done a

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six -hour. special to to cover all of them amy

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matthews boy meets world we didn't even mention

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her yeah the mom from boy meets world love her

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i thought about her in the middle of the night

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when i was watching boy meets world i was like

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oh crap we forgot about betsy randall she's amazing

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that's that's amy matthews who plays her who'd

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you think of who'd you who popped in your head

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you know we didn't even touch on the reality

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show moms on with you know sharon osborne reality

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show mom but my personal favorite and some people

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might be a fan of the show was beth chapman oh

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dog dog dog the bounty hunter's wife dog the

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bounty hunter got a lot of like the star of the

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show thing you know with his with their reality

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show but honestly beth was running the show nobody

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like beth we sadly lost her in 2019 i believe

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and um That woman was just incredible, just tough

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as nails, not afraid to boss everybody around,

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keep everybody in line, tell everybody what's

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what. And then at the end of the day, she was

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also extremely compassionate, nurturing to the

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people. It was like that show's energy was all

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about like nail him to the wall. We're going

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to get that guy. And then they would die and

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they would cuff him and they put him in the car

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and then they'd be like, sweetie, do you need

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a cookie? I got another one from the TGIF days

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that we didn't mention. Harriet Winslow, Family

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Matters. Powerhouse. Held a chaotic house together,

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really. So I thought about her. Yeah, they were

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doing that. And from the same lineup, we have

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Full House. When I was thinking of ideas, we

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were like, Full House, you know, the mom famously

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passed away before the show started, so that

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was kind of the premise of the show. So my husband

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was like, well, what about Aunt Becky in Full

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House. And I said, you know what? The mother

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in that house was Danny Tanner. Boom. There you

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go. Right? 100 % mom. He was. He was. And that's

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about the only one we could put up there that

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would cover the mom. I thought of some, too,

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because we were thinking too recent. What about

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June Cleaver from Leave It to Beaver? Oh, yeah.

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We could have gone way back. One of the originals.

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I mean, that was black and white. Come on. Yeah.

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So, you know, a lot of it followed after her.

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Deborah Barone from Everybody Loves Raymond.

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Oh, that more realistic. I mean, you go back

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to June Cleaver and you're talking about unrealistic

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expectations of mom and wife. And then that's

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the realistic. You go to Everybody Loves Raymond

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and that feels a lot more realistic. Yeah. Especially

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the marriage dynamics of, you know, I'll never

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forget the suitcase episode. How long that suitcase

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sat on that. On those stairs. Well, they both

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were like, who's going to put it away? I'm not

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going to put it away. Hilarious. Like that. Right.

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Hilarious. I think the moms, the TV moms, we're

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going to just keep on rocking with those. We'll

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keep thinking more. There'll be new ones. The

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Goldberg mom from the Goldberg show. I just thought

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about her. Good. Like there's so many. There

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are so many that are that are in our lives have

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raised us. And I don't say that lightly. I can't

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wait to do Father's Day. I can't wait to do all

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the days. I can tell you right now the one I'm

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most excited about. It might be a spoiler, might

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not, but my favorite TV dad of all time, Uncle

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Phil from Fresh Prince of Bel -Air. It don't

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get no better than that. I'm going to tell you

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right now. You can come at me, but it doesn't.

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We'll go into that next month. But today, Stars

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Hollow for Wistful Wednesday. yeah let's go back

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gilmore girls so what right off the top coco

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what what is this for you is is stars hollow

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a place or is it a state of mind you know like

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is it a this is ultimate comfort show i think

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for people i think that's what was the big appeal

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because they knew what they were doing when they

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said let's make the setting like a hallmark movie

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But it's not going to be a Hallmark movie. It's

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going to be a full -on TV series. But we are

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going to make sure that when people come to Stars

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Hollow, it's got that New England, small town.

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They don't even have a streetlight yet. Because

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we know because the episode where there's a streetlight

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being put in is such a big deal. The whole town

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has to come together and watch the little old

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lady cross the street. Fall colors, all the things,

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right? I get this feeling like it's this uncanny

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valley of small towns where every neighbor is

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a character actor, and the seasons only transition

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from crisp fall to snowy magic, and that's about

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it. But it's like all these small towns in one

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place, and you really see, like, I think you

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see that it feels like a high -budget simulation.

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designed to make us at home all feel slightly

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inadequate about our own local town councils

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or whatever's going on. Yeah. If you came from

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a small town or something, you know how this

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feels, right? In what reality are the teenagers

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going to the town council meetings and everyone's

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involved that much? Or people have the time.

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People have the time. I would love to be going

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to my own neighborhood. town council meetings

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because I got opinions. But who has the time?

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But in Stars Hollow, everybody's got... All the

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time. You got all the time. It's a sleepy...

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I mean, even the... This is one of the things

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I wanted to touch on is just how relatable is

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Gilmore Girls really? There are some parts of

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it that I think people connected with this show

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because, yeah, it's this young girl growing up.

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It's a single mom raising her daughter. There's

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some things about it that I think people connected

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with. But in general, freaks are going to maybe

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have a disagreement with this, but there's a

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lot of unrelatable but wish life was like this

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kind of vibe with this show. It's like we know

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that a single mom living in a pretty big, nice

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house on one income, she's working at a hotel

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or an inn, a quaint little inn, of course, of

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course. Oh, yeah. And also afford to raise her

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daughter and just have one job. You know, we're

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kind of like, nah, it would be nice. Maybe not.

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I think that's part of it, though. I think we

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return to this show because it's safe. Like in

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a world that feels like it's falling apart, there's

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something rebellious about a show where the highest

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stakes are whether or not the town firelight

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festival gets rained out. Mm -hmm. So we... May

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not relate completely to it, but we feel a sense

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of comfort, warmth, like a weighted blanket.

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That's what Gilmore Girls is to me, like a weighted

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blanket. But, yeah, I can see where you're coming

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from there because it is a little bit too much

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perfect maybe. Yeah, a little other than the

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drama and the relationship. It's almost like

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the friends issue. What the hell did they do?

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How did they afford all that? They can't have

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one of those apartments in New York City. You

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know they can't. Exactly. So it's the same thing.

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I mean, she's 30 -something years old, single

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mother, and she's living like this. Like, nah,

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probably not. Let's talk about the DNA of this

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show, the Gilmore Bond. The best friends first,

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mother -daughter second type thing, dynamic.

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Launched a thousand therapy sessions out there,

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I'm sure. Yeah, but it's not just about – and

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this is what I really had to go through the whole

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series I think to get. And maybe even the reboot

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is even more so this. But you think it's about

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Rory and Lorelai and just this daughter relationship

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and how close they are and the friendship that

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they have and the dynamic of – When do they play

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the part of mom and best friend and how that

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works out, the codependency? I guess you could

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even say it is. Yeah. But it's also about Emily.

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I mean, don't include that originally. When you

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think about Gilmore Girls, you go, oh, it's these

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two, right? But it's Emily, too. It's Lorelai's

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mother and their complicated relationship as

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well because it's not friendly. No. It's still.

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Everybody representing their place in life. A

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young girl growing up and becoming a woman. A

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young -ish single mom figuring out life and relationships

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in that time. And then you have Emily who's going

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through transitions and changes and things of

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her own. I love that Lorelai's... She's brilliant,

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exhausting, but she's terrified of being just

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like her mother. And ironically, it makes her

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exactly like her mother and her stubbornness.

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So, yeah, that's funny. And Rory, you mentioned

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Rory. Man, Rory, the gifted kid, cautionary tale.

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Girl was told she was a genius for 16 years.

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And the real world slaps her in the face like

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a bug hitting a windshield. You know, so who

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are you, Coco? Were you Rory or Lorelai growing

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up? I don't know if I could ever say that I was

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as overachieving as Rory or even ambitious and

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dedicated to her goals in life. Probably a lot

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more Lorelai. And this is one of the things that

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I found fascinating watching it was sometimes

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we see characters that trigger us in certain

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ways or we go, I don't know if I like that person

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because they bother me in some way. And part

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of maybe the reason why I didn't. I watched this

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show originally when it was very popular. A lot

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of people my age were watching it. It was a topic

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of conversation. And I was like, nah, no thanks.

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Not my thing. I think maybe because, you know,

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I looked at Lorelai as I was watching this and

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going, she's kind of selfish. She's really self

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-absorbed. I mean, even at Rory's high school

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graduation, there was this debate on whether

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or not they were going to be able to afford.

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investing in a new business and opening up their

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own inn. And so Lorelai is saying, well, we can't

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buy the inn because I got to have money for Yale

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for you. This is my sacrifice as a mother. I

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got to make sure my daughter goes to Yale, all

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the things. And so there was this question of

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whether or not Lorelai was going to get to follow

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her dreams and open up her business. At Rory's

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graduation, while Rory had just walked across

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the stage, she sits down and Lorelai's writing

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her a note to hold up and say, we got the in.

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And Rory's like, yay. And I'm like, Lorelai,

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read the room. Yeah. But there's a lot of moments

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like that. I'm using that as one example. But

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I'm like, other people are having life problems

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or having things going on. And even in those

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conversations, Lorelai's like, OK, that's nice.

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But now I'm going to tell you about me. And I'm

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kind of like, is there maybe a little bit of

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me in that? Am I triggering that because maybe

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I'm like that too much or I don't? I like that.

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I like that. I like to think that I'm more of

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like a Lane Kim hitting in the floorboards with

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a drum kit. That'd be me. Yeah, I could see that.

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Yeah. Let's talk about the boyfriends. And I

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know right now the freaks out there got some

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thoughts on this. So jump in the comments. Come

00:14:12.789 --> 00:14:15.110
at me. Tell me why I'm wrong. Tell me why we're

00:14:15.110 --> 00:14:16.870
wrong. Tell me why we're right. Whatever. But

00:14:16.870 --> 00:14:22.320
yeah, Dean. Jess, Logan, right? Dean, the human

00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:27.980
equivalent of unbuttered toast. Liable. But eventually

00:14:27.980 --> 00:14:30.820
you're going to want some jam. Am I right? That's

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what Dean was. Also a little hard to swallow

00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:36.139
when you try to eat that toast. You're like.

00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:38.779
Exactly. A little hard to swallow. I like that.

00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:42.399
You jumped in on my analogy there. So Jess, the

00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.620
James Dean of the library. He's the guy every

00:14:45.620 --> 00:14:50.039
girl thinks she can fix. with a copy of Hal and

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some shared trauma. But he's the rebel. He's

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that rebel that we all wanted to be until we

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realized we actually liked having a steady paycheck.

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Yeah. You know, these are the class clowns. These

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are the people you were like, oh, you're going

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to be waking up at 6 a .m. because you're going

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to have to go to work. That's what you get. Logan,

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the live fast, die young, leave a trust fund

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candidate, represents everything Lorelai ran

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away from, which is exactly. While Rory ran right

00:15:19.669 --> 00:15:23.049
towards him, I think. So let's be real. The only

00:15:23.049 --> 00:15:28.289
man in the show who mattered was Luke. Luke Danes,

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a man who expressed love through flannel and

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silent judgment. It's my kind of dude. I don't

00:15:32.950 --> 00:15:34.549
have my flannel on today, but that's kind of

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how I roll. Yeah. Luke was the man, though, right?

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Talk to me, Coco. I just broke him down a little

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bit. You can go deeper for us. Yeah. Well, when

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it came to Rory's boyfriends and, you know, some

00:15:46.980 --> 00:15:50.340
of that is high school first love kind of deal.

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I mean, I was I remember hearing about Dean,

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you know, when this show was on and all the years

00:15:56.740 --> 00:15:59.899
since. It's all about like Dean, Dean. People

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love him or they hate him. Yeah. Watching it,

00:16:03.059 --> 00:16:05.440
going into it blind, thinking, OK, I'm just going

00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:07.340
to like see how this plays out, see what I think

00:16:07.340 --> 00:16:12.519
about Dean. And yeah, no, not only Dean. But

00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:15.399
when she has her little fling with Jesse, Jesse's

00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:19.779
cute. He played Jack in This Is Us later. So,

00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:23.919
of course, he's adorable. And then Logan later

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on. In any case, for Rory specifically, I was

00:16:27.539 --> 00:16:30.740
thinking, you don't need any of these guys. These

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guys are nothing but a – but this is my 40 -year

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-old. Self -watching it. I can imagine if I was

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watching it at 16 when it came out and it was

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really popular. I might have had a different

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vibe. I might have had a different feeling about

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it. Like, oh, I just really want Dean and Rory

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to work out. Or, oh, I just want, you know, Jesse

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is going to, she's going to save him from himself.

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Yeah. You know, blossom with her love or whatever.

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And I think maybe I would have had a different

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take on it. But at my age, looking back on it,

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I'm like, girl, you don't need any of this. You're

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going to be a journalist for the New York Times

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or whatever. You're going to, you, they're just

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a distraction. Go do you. You'll find a guy,

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but it'll be the right guy at the right time.

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And these guys are nothing but problems for you.

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Holy trinity of bad decisions. It's about what

00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:24.859
you could probably say. Because I mean, there's

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liars. Like at one point or another, there's

00:17:27.980 --> 00:17:30.910
red flags, which we would. Definitely call red

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flags nowadays. We would be like, if this was

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my daughter and she was dating these guys, I'd

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be like, uh, that temper you just saw in him?

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Yeah, red flag. No. Red flag. All the way. Or,

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you know, the possessiveness. People have criticisms

00:17:43.509 --> 00:17:45.710
about Dean because he seemed to have a little

00:17:45.710 --> 00:17:47.190
bit of possessiveness. He didn't really want

00:17:47.190 --> 00:17:49.809
Rory to succeed. Yeah. Wasn't as supportive as

00:17:49.809 --> 00:17:52.609
he could have been. Or, you know, Logan lying

00:17:52.609 --> 00:17:56.750
about how successful he really was or what he

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was really doing. I mean, these are things that...

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are kind of important. You need to have a partner

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or a person in your life that you can depend

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on and that you can trust. And if they're going

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to cause you that much grief. Yeah. You don't

00:18:09.460 --> 00:18:12.279
need it. Get them out of there. Yeah. Here's

00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:13.980
where we're going to get thoughtful for a second,

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because the real heart of this show isn't the

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quips. It's the quiet tragedy of the elder Gilmore's

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Emily and Richard. You know, Emily is a God tier

00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.940
character. She's sharp. wearing the Chanel suits.

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She just wants to be known by her daughter. And

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the Friday night dinner is a ritual. It's a weekly

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war zone where the weapons are silver spoons

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and passive aggressive compliments. Have we ever,

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have you ever been at those dinner tables where

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the air was so thick of unspoken stuff you could

00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:55.569
barely taste what you were eating? That's the

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Gilmore frequency. We've done this, Coco. We've

00:18:58.450 --> 00:19:01.809
talked about dinner scenes, and I love it. Something

00:19:01.809 --> 00:19:05.930
about it. But, yeah. Because it can be uncomfortable.

00:19:06.730 --> 00:19:09.150
This, to me, though, Emily and Richard is kind

00:19:09.150 --> 00:19:11.769
of the shadow side of the Gilmore Girls. What

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do you get from that? Yeah, and it can also really

00:19:15.349 --> 00:19:18.569
represent, even between Lorelei and Rory, which

00:19:18.569 --> 00:19:21.089
seems to be very close, very open. You know,

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Lorelai wanted a different relationship with

00:19:23.190 --> 00:19:25.490
her daughter than she had with her mother. And

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you can see that sort of generational trauma

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and how that reflected and was passed on. But

00:19:32.490 --> 00:19:38.990
you still see that same wanting stability and

00:19:38.990 --> 00:19:42.329
connection and things to remain the same that

00:19:42.329 --> 00:19:45.109
you mentioned, like stubbornness. I mean, Emily

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wants a connection with Lorelai, even as she.

00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:50.819
Doesn't seem to have a whole lot of respect for

00:19:50.819 --> 00:19:53.380
Lorelai. Doesn't really approve of Lorelai and

00:19:53.380 --> 00:19:56.839
her choices at all. And has nothing but criticism

00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:00.880
all the time for what Lorelai says. I mean, Lorelai

00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:04.019
just to her feels like a complete slap in the

00:20:04.019 --> 00:20:06.619
face of everything she represents and their lifestyle

00:20:06.619 --> 00:20:10.319
and their reputation. And Lorelai doesn't seem

00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:13.079
to care. And I think that, you know, rubs Emily

00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:16.319
the wrong way. But she still wants her. That's

00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:21.500
the currency. That she, in paying for Rory's

00:20:21.500 --> 00:20:24.700
prep school and helping pay for Yale, the currency

00:20:24.700 --> 00:20:27.920
is you have to spend Friday nights with me. And

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why would somebody who doesn't like somebody

00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:32.259
want to spend time with them? Emily still wants

00:20:32.259 --> 00:20:34.259
her daughter to come and have that connection

00:20:34.259 --> 00:20:38.140
no matter what. And you see Lorelai wanting that

00:20:38.140 --> 00:20:40.890
with Rory too. She she keeps playing, you know,

00:20:40.910 --> 00:20:42.670
she wants to plan these trips with Rory because

00:20:42.670 --> 00:20:44.529
she's about to go off to college or she's about

00:20:44.529 --> 00:20:47.009
to graduate college. And she wants to have like,

00:20:47.089 --> 00:20:49.430
well, this might be our last chance to bond.

00:20:49.910 --> 00:20:52.910
So there's a thread of like, I still want there

00:20:52.910 --> 00:20:55.609
to be connection there. I want her to come back.

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I want her to come home. But and I wouldn't know.

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I mean, I have a mother daughter relationship

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with my mother, but I don't have daughters. So

00:21:02.769 --> 00:21:05.990
for me to watch that is it's a different dynamic

00:21:05.990 --> 00:21:08.990
than what I. What do you think it would be like

00:21:08.990 --> 00:21:11.970
if you were like that? I mean, I look at my niece

00:21:11.970 --> 00:21:17.609
and I'm like, I just want her to like me enough

00:21:17.609 --> 00:21:21.210
to want to visit me when she grows up and she

00:21:21.210 --> 00:21:23.630
becomes independent. You know, I want to be enough

00:21:23.630 --> 00:21:25.930
of the cool aunt or the cool mom or the cool

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person that she is going to want to come home

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and she's going to listen to my advice and, you

00:21:31.150 --> 00:21:34.710
know, that kind of thing. And also knowing that

00:21:34.710 --> 00:21:38.490
that dynamic. It's just, it's hard. Like, you

00:21:38.490 --> 00:21:39.710
don't want to hear that stuff from your mom.

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You don't want to listen to your mom. You want

00:21:40.890 --> 00:21:43.210
to do your own thing. And I was actually really

00:21:43.210 --> 00:21:46.430
proud of Emily in one scene when she's fighting

00:21:46.430 --> 00:21:49.150
with Richard. Her and her husband don't get along

00:21:49.150 --> 00:21:51.910
at one point. They're separated. I'm not exactly

00:21:51.910 --> 00:21:55.470
sure what that was all going on. But there was

00:21:55.470 --> 00:21:57.630
one where she thought he locked her in the basement

00:21:57.630 --> 00:22:01.029
of that mansion. Oh, yeah. And she's yelling

00:22:01.029 --> 00:22:03.009
at him. And she's like, I'm going to climb out

00:22:03.009 --> 00:22:05.519
the window. And he's like. Emily Gilmore, you

00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:09.759
don't dare cry. And she's like, I'm doing it.

00:22:09.799 --> 00:22:12.019
I'm climbing out the window. And she literally

00:22:12.019 --> 00:22:15.819
takes her skirt off because it's caught on a

00:22:15.819 --> 00:22:17.500
hook. And I'm like, I'm watching the scene. And

00:22:17.500 --> 00:22:22.519
I'm like, good for you, Emily. Right. A little

00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:26.339
Lorelei in that moment where she's like, I don't

00:22:26.339 --> 00:22:28.220
care what the neighbors think. And I don't care

00:22:28.220 --> 00:22:30.460
what you're telling me. Don't tell me what to

00:22:30.460 --> 00:22:33.309
do. I'm going to do my own thing. Loved it. Love

00:22:33.309 --> 00:22:36.589
that. Let's talk about Sookie. Sookie St. James,

00:22:36.849 --> 00:22:41.549
because she was unknown really before this. And

00:22:41.549 --> 00:22:48.630
153 episodes, which I think are 153 reps for

00:22:48.630 --> 00:22:53.950
Melissa McCarthy, put her into a stardom that

00:22:53.950 --> 00:22:57.109
was unlike what she was going to get anywhere

00:22:57.109 --> 00:22:59.450
else, I think. I think Gilmore Girls launched

00:22:59.450 --> 00:23:02.150
her. Big time. And showed what she could do.

00:23:02.150 --> 00:23:04.089
She didn't even necessarily highlight everything

00:23:04.089 --> 00:23:07.910
she could do, what was waiting in her potential.

00:23:08.309 --> 00:23:11.369
Because Suki's a great character. She did a fantastic

00:23:11.369 --> 00:23:13.829
job playing Suki. But what we see of Melissa

00:23:13.829 --> 00:23:18.750
McCarthy after that is nothing you see in Gilmore

00:23:18.750 --> 00:23:20.849
Girls. No, absolutely not. But I'm glad that

00:23:20.849 --> 00:23:23.750
we had Gilmore Girls to launch that career because

00:23:23.750 --> 00:23:26.390
we love seeing where it's going. Why does this

00:23:26.390 --> 00:23:30.730
show still matter today? Like, why are we still

00:23:30.730 --> 00:23:33.450
talking about 15? You know, that's not 15 years.

00:23:33.569 --> 00:23:36.170
Maybe it is. I guess it has been since it started

00:23:36.170 --> 00:23:39.890
10, 20 years, whatever. Yeah. You've got 13 year

00:23:39.890 --> 00:23:43.029
olds wearing tick on tick tock wearing Rory Gilmore

00:23:43.029 --> 00:23:46.809
sweaters today. Why? I think it's because we're

00:23:46.809 --> 00:23:49.970
all looking for a community. We're looking for

00:23:49.970 --> 00:23:53.109
Miss Patty's dance studio. We're looking for

00:23:53.109 --> 00:23:55.730
a place where someone knows our coffee order

00:23:55.730 --> 00:23:58.390
and actually cares about the answer. When they

00:23:58.390 --> 00:24:01.130
ask how we're doing. Stars Hollow is a myth,

00:24:01.289 --> 00:24:05.069
but we need it. You know, we need this. Yeah.

00:24:05.309 --> 00:24:07.670
We get a little bit of that in our own neighborhood,

00:24:07.769 --> 00:24:10.009
our community. We do. In fact, in our own community

00:24:10.009 --> 00:24:14.789
here in Daybreak, Utah. It's not a city. It's

00:24:14.789 --> 00:24:19.509
a neighborhood. Yeah. We have a local artist

00:24:19.509 --> 00:24:25.019
who designs fabrics, fabric prints. She designed

00:24:25.019 --> 00:24:27.779
a Gilmore Girls specific fabric print. She said

00:24:27.779 --> 00:24:31.819
it is her top -selling design. I bet. I bet.

00:24:31.980 --> 00:24:34.480
You know, it's just one of those iconic things.

00:24:34.539 --> 00:24:37.039
They talked about it when we covered last week.

00:24:37.059 --> 00:24:40.059
We talked about Mike, Nick, Nick, and Alice,

00:24:40.180 --> 00:24:42.380
the movie. And Gilmore Girls is mentioned throughout

00:24:42.380 --> 00:24:47.039
it. So many times. So many times it was mentioned.

00:24:47.180 --> 00:24:52.430
This is very much a fabric. It's in our fabric

00:24:52.430 --> 00:24:54.309
of what we're doing these days. Gilmore Girls

00:24:54.309 --> 00:24:56.470
is in there. What's your final thoughts on Gilmore

00:24:56.470 --> 00:24:59.930
Girls? I think that there's both this relatable

00:24:59.930 --> 00:25:03.750
relationship dynamic about Gilmore Girls that

00:25:03.750 --> 00:25:06.769
keeps us watching it, wants us to see what's

00:25:06.769 --> 00:25:08.730
going to happen. How's Rory going to handle this

00:25:08.730 --> 00:25:11.569
next conflict that she has with a person or a

00:25:11.569 --> 00:25:13.369
situation? Or how are they going to earn enough

00:25:13.369 --> 00:25:16.410
money for Yale? These relatable, real things

00:25:16.410 --> 00:25:19.200
that are in this show that people can... glob

00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.859
onto and connect with and then there's a totally

00:25:21.859 --> 00:25:24.160
unrelatable way that they can eat donuts and

00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:27.000
candy constantly and not gain an ounce or the

00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:31.579
way that they speak in these quick witty banter

00:25:31.579 --> 00:25:34.480
back and forth ways that I don't know if people

00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.460
remember Dawson's Creek was similar in that time

00:25:37.460 --> 00:25:40.500
frame it's not at all relatable I mean nobody

00:25:40.500 --> 00:25:44.180
talks like that we wish we could talk in ways

00:25:44.180 --> 00:25:47.759
that were that kind of like using words as swords

00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:51.779
way And so I think this show is just a fantastic

00:25:51.779 --> 00:25:54.299
balance of those two things of being totally

00:25:54.299 --> 00:25:58.940
unrelatable. Yeah. Incredibly relatable. Yeah.

00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:02.039
Yeah. I like that. I enjoyed this deep dive.

00:26:02.220 --> 00:26:05.440
I hope the freaks did. If you did enjoy this,

00:26:05.500 --> 00:26:08.920
share this episode with that one friend who still

00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:11.819
owns a Luke's diner mug. You know exactly who

00:26:11.819 --> 00:26:16.680
they are. I just I want to know also from the

00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:19.450
freaks, what's your comfort watch? Because this

00:26:19.450 --> 00:26:21.630
is one. This is one. This is a big one for a

00:26:21.630 --> 00:26:23.789
lot of people. You mentioned Dawson's Creek.

00:26:24.230 --> 00:26:27.230
There's other shows out there. The O .C., My

00:26:27.230 --> 00:26:30.869
So -Called Life, Felicity. Some of those are

00:26:30.869 --> 00:26:34.049
older and newer, but those are similar in style

00:26:34.049 --> 00:26:38.910
to how this comfort show really felt. So what

00:26:38.910 --> 00:26:41.230
else? One Tree Hill even. That's one in there

00:26:41.230 --> 00:26:44.809
you could throw in there. But I enjoyed this.

00:26:44.970 --> 00:26:47.589
I didn't know if I would, but it's the Gilmore

00:26:47.589 --> 00:26:50.619
Girls. You know, you, you, you got to love it.

00:26:51.099 --> 00:26:54.500
Yep. It's just like I said. Now than I did, I

00:26:54.500 --> 00:26:56.160
think when it first came out and I wouldn't watch

00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.319
it. Yeah, absolutely. But this has been fun.

00:27:00.539 --> 00:27:02.660
This is parallel frequencies. I am just playing.

00:27:02.660 --> 00:27:05.359
She is Coco. You're the freaks. And we will see

00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:06.259
you on the other side.