March 25, 2026
No Crying in Baseball? The Legacy of 'A League of Their Own' + Exclusive Geena Davis Interview
It’s Wistful Wednesday on Parallel Frequencies, and today, we’re stepping up to the plate with the 1992 Penny Marshall classic, A League of Their Own. Blane and Coco dismantle the "No Crying in Baseball" myth to find a story about the cost of greatness, the complexities of sisterhood, and the "reluctant stardom" of Dottie Hinson.
We tackle the tough questions: Did Dottie drop that ball on purpose in the final game? Why did the film brush over the segregation of the era? And how did a movie about a forgotten 1940s baseball league become a timeless anthem for empowerment?
The episode features a special "Authority Segment"—an exclusive interview with Geena Davis from FanX 2024. Geena talks about the iconic cliff-jump in Thelma & Louise, her work with gender parity in children's media, and her philosophy on why "things will always work out". We also partner with Promise To Live to discuss the importance of mental health and suicide prevention, reminding the "Freqs" that it’s okay to not be okay.
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Transcript
Just Blane (00:00)
Okay.
Three, two, one.
parallel frequencies with Just Blane and Coco and all the freqs out there. Coco, you know what? I don't usually jump ahead, but I am pumped for Freqy Friday this week because I responding to the comments. I mean, last Friday, Feature Friday, Freqy Friday, I told you beforehand, I was like, yeah, we'll just go through comments, you know, two, three minutes, and then we'll get to the content, to our main show.
Courtney Pearl (00:15)
Yeah.
Just Blane (00:33)
We went like 18 minutes with just the comic. So.
Courtney Pearl (00:35)
I love
hearing what you have to say. And I dare say many people are out there really excited for Friday. Freqy Friday, Feature Friday. We're all just looking forward to Friday. We love Friday.
Just Blane (00:48)
I know, I know, and I know it's
only Wistful Wednesday right now, but I am, I'm excited because I have seen some of the comments coming in from the freqs and they're riding with us. Let's just say that first of all, they're riding with us. They're on the same, at least playing with us, but the frequencies are different and that's what we're here for. But the deep thought put into a lot of these comments, I'm loving. So keep those coming.
Courtney Pearl (01:04)
Uh-huh.
Just Blane (01:18)
We got a lot of comments on a clip that was just kind of sporadic. I just happened to find my Joker card. Remember this? Now you remember me talking about this finding random cards just out of their pack and you thought it was wild. You were like, what? I've never heard of this, right? Tell us, me and you are together. And what did we see in a random place?
Courtney Pearl (01:18)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Finding my cards.
Yeah.
Just Blane (01:47)
I want you just to tell it and throw it out there what we saw and me give you that nudge. What do we see?
Courtney Pearl (01:51)
Yeah,
we're like, we were at hearthside games over here in what is it? South Jordan, West Jordan, I think that they're technically in, but over here by us where we're at and we walked up, they were playing games. I think the World of Warcraft over there at the table and tattoo on a guy's arm. I'm trying to remember which playing card it was. Ace of diamonds.
Just Blane (02:10)
Ace of diamonds.
It was an ace of diamonds on his, now we're in a card draw. So, you know, I'm not gonna think, if I see cards, I'm not gonna think anything, but the way this one was presented to us, you knew it too, right? Like you saw this, I'm like, hey, that's not normal. That's not normal.
Courtney Pearl (02:15)
Yeah, right here.
Yeah.
Yeah, and that is
how it works, right? I I feel like when it's a omen, spiritual, maybe a little mystical, when it's like showing up in that way, I mean, a lot of people can just kind of dismiss it like, coincidences, whatever, you you're gonna notice that more, because you're looking for it. But there's a little something different about when it shows up and you're like, but this is in a totally unexpected way that this is showing up, right? And that's what you keep having with these playing cards.
Just Blane (03:01)
Now, I'm going to add to the mystery a little bit. Now, my wife and I, we were in a vintage record shop over the weekend, okay? And I'm just browsing around and I find this. I didn't buy these. Maybe I should have, but if you look.
There's the queen of clubs and a jack of clubs and whatever they used for, they were random. One of them was just a price tag and the other one was just laying there. And I looked all over this store and that was the only two cards in there. What does this mean, Coco?
Courtney Pearl (03:26)
Yeah.
Yeah, I wanted to look it up and see what other people said about it. But before I say that, I want to ask you, when you think of playing cards in general, when you just think of that, what word comes to your mind? What meaning does it have for you? Is there anyone you specifically associate with playing cards or you're like, it always reminds me of
Just Blane (04:03)
No, not necessarily, but I was always a good poker player. I just don't like doing it. I was a great poker player. I have a wild theory before you tell me what it actually is, because I hope I'm wrong.
Courtney Pearl (04:05)
You don't have anything that pops up like that.
Okay. Okay.
okay.
Just Blane (04:23)
We started out with the joker and then we got an ace of diamonds and then we got a queen of clubs and a jack of clubs. We skipped the king. I hope to God it's not counting down.
to something awful like my demise, my doom, my death. Or maybe I'm putting together, maybe I've got to put a full deck of cards together before the end of my life. That's a movie in itself.
Courtney Pearl (04:46)
then
you got time, yeah. You'll be fine. Well, is that, I don't know poker well enough to know, is that a hand that you would want?
Just Blane (04:55)
⁓
I mean, well, a joker would not be in a poker game. But I mean, the high cards, yeah, sure. Ace, queen, and a jack.
Courtney Pearl (04:58)
yeah, yeah, of course.
You're like, I'm
putting together something that's going to be kind of helpful and useful. I mean, it is the sign of good fortune. think that I think that in general, the idea is that it's, you know, taking risks, seeing what life has planned for you. And then like seeing the cards come up like that are kind of like you're on the right path. You're whatever it is that you're doing, whatever you're taking a chance on, you're on the right path. So that's a
Just Blane (05:31)
Okay.
Courtney Pearl (05:32)
That's far more hopeful than a countdown, I think.
Just Blane (05:35)
You had, I'm just, I got myself psyched out I think because I'm looking at it like, my God, I'm finding cards, just counting down. Like what happens at the end? What happens when I get the two? Or is the ace the beginning or the end? I guess it goes both ways, know, ace is high, ace is low. Yeah.
Courtney Pearl (05:50)
I know nobody knows the rules to this game. ⁓
You're like, wait, our ace is high? What's happening? Someone tell me.
Just Blane (05:58)
I'm making the game,
making the rules as we go to my own game, guess. Speaking of games, yeah, we do.
Courtney Pearl (06:03)
And that's kind of the point, right? That's why I asked you
what your meaning was to it, because the intention of the meaning you put to it is really what matters more than a Google search that says, like, this is what cards mean. I think that there's a lot of cool theories out there, a lot of like, this is culturally what we associate with these omen signs, things like that. I, especially when I do dream interpretation sessions with clients, I'll be like, okay, let's break it down. It's kind of like Mad Libs. We're like, okay.
Just Blane (06:31)
Okay, yeah.
Courtney Pearl (06:32)
You know, you saw an episode of Practically Magic where I did a dream interpretation and I said, okay, well, what does whales, whales, what does that mean to you? I can tell you what culturally whales mean, but what does it feel like to you? And then we go from there. So I think it's, it's all about intention. I think it's the right path, not the countdown.
Just Blane (06:45)
Hmm.
Alright.
So don't treat it nefariously and it won't do it back. Yeah, okay. I loved it. I love that. I can play that game. it's whisper Wednesday and we are talking about a game and that's pretty broad, but we've already teased this. got the LA hat on. It's opening day of major league baseball and Coco just happened to schedule a league of their own.
Courtney Pearl (06:54)
Mmm, it won't be. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
I did.
Just Blane (07:19)
And I love this movie. And it's the 1992 Penny Marshall masterpiece that somehow convinced an entire generation that women's baseball was the coolest damn thing ever. And here's the thing, it was. It really was. This movie came out when I was a kid. I remember watching it thinking, is this a sports movie?
Courtney Pearl (07:34)
I know.
Mm-hmm.
Just Blane (07:44)
Or is it just a movie about everything? And that's really what it came down to is family, identity, what it costs to be great when the world doesn't want you to be. And that's what happens to these women. Dottie, Mae, all of them. Played by an incredible cast. Yeah, right? But I'm so glad that you put this on the docket because, well, first of all, just want, I mean,
Courtney Pearl (08:00)
DORIT
Just Blane (08:12)
Who doesn't want to see Tom Hanks peeing for like 47 seconds, right? That's a whole, I bet they did. I did too. Growing up, I thought that was great. But yeah, this is the movie for today for Whistful Wednesday, a league of their own. We're going to break it down. We're going to tell you why this movie still hits, why it got some stuff right, why it fumbled others and why the final scene will destroy anybody.
Courtney Pearl (08:16)
That's my favorite. My kids thought that was hilarious. They watched it, yeah.
Just Blane (08:41)
Coco, what's your thoughts though, right off the top from a league of their own?
Courtney Pearl (08:44)
You know, I've watched this movie. I mean, this is probably one of my, that movie that comes on TV or it just happens to be playing or you come across it as you're doing that Netflix scroll date night thing. You know how you guys like go, we're watch a movie, but then you just scroll forever. Anytime it comes up. I mean, I've seen it hundreds of times over my lifetime. And it's so interesting how each phase of my life,
Just Blane (09:00)
Yeah.
Courtney Pearl (09:12)
there's a completely different focus or focal point that I take from it. As a kid, the whole women playing baseball, look what women can do. We can be just as good and just as exciting as men playing baseball in a time when the men were going off to war and the women stepped up and Rosie the Riveter and all of that stuff was, know, proving women could do it. And as a little girl, loved that.
Just Blane (09:18)
Mm-hmm.
Courtney Pearl (09:39)
loved that part was like, yeah, girls can do it too. We can do anything, you know, and wanting to prove myself. I was not athletic whatsoever, but you better believe that I set up pretend bases in my living room and pretended athletic really well. Like I was sliding into home and, know, I wanted to believe I could be one of those really athletic people that could sacrifice their body for the game. I'm not, by the way, not even.
Just Blane (10:08)
No?
Courtney Pearl (10:08)
it. I've played real games and I'm the one hiding in the back, back, back, back of the field, just like hoping the ball doesn't come to me. That's more like my style. did cross country because you didn't have to try out. You didn't have to do anything. You just ran. Yeah, so that was more my speed. But I loved the idea. I love the idea of it. And then as I got older, you know, this idea of like this isn't a baseball movie at all.
Just Blane (10:25)
You had to show up and run. You like those? Yeah, no coaching.
Courtney Pearl (10:38)
Yeah, sure. Like the central plot and the setting of it is baseball. But it's really about allowing people to have the American dream. What is the American dream really? And is it really just applicable to a certain demographic or is it applicable to are we allowing it for women? Are we allowing it for people of color? You know, is it's about these women who love baseball.
Just Blane (10:42)
Thank
Courtney Pearl (11:06)
just as much as men love playing baseball and getting their chance to do it. I mean, look at the difference between Kit and Dottie, right? Shows perfectly. Yeah.
Just Blane (11:15)
Absolutely. And let's
set this thing up with the context and the cultural moment that it was. I remember watching this movie when I was younger in 1992. We won't say the actual age. I remember watching it. I don't think I ever looked at it as a women empowerment or women playing baseball. I didn't think, I thought it was baseball movie. I loved baseball. I was a huge baseball player. Anything that was baseball related, you better believe I was going to watch it, whether it was a league of their own.
Courtney Pearl (11:37)
hehe
Just Blane (11:43)
Rookie of the Year, Sandlot. I mean, any of these were legends to me just because it was baseball. And that was my generic language. It was baseball. So I didn't care that the fact that they were women or any of that. I was gonna watch it anyway and enjoy it. Later on is when I started realizing, you know, as I've watched it many times growing up, it did start hitting a little bit different, but let's set the scene because 1992.
Courtney Pearl (11:46)
Love you.
Just Blane (12:12)
You got Penny Marshall, who was already a legend for big decides to make a movie about the all American girls professional baseball league. Well, on paper, it sounds like a flop. You didn't have women's sports today. They still struggle 2026. They still struggle. It's people. It, there is even then the WNBA when you've got super stars and I'm talking
Courtney Pearl (12:29)
Yep. Still a huge pay gap and respect gap.
Mmm.
Just Blane (12:39)
global stars like a Caitlin Clark that has put WNBA and say what you want about her, think whatever, but I don't care what you say. Without her, the WNBA's not doing, they're not getting private jets. They're not getting a pay raise. They're not getting national TV exposure. So it still struggles today. So in 92, you put this on paper and it sounds like a flop, honestly. Minus the cast.
Courtney Pearl (13:02)
Mm-hmm.
Just Blane (13:08)
Tom Hanks, Gina Davis, Madonna, Rosie O'Donnell goes on and on, we'll talk about them. But really, until this movie, you didn't see anything like this, especially something that was basically made for a forgotten part of history, because it does kind of double as a historical reference here for what's going on. It's not a dry documentary with.
Courtney Pearl (13:29)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Just Blane (13:35)
a very special TV movie. It's not one of those, but it is paying homage to the professional baseball players that were playing it.
Courtney Pearl (13:46)
in general all the women and when they stepped in for two professional roles and I love that conversation that he has with ⁓ who was gary marshall penny's brother was playing the walter harvey and ira loewenstein and him are having a conversation about shutting down the league the war is almost over he's like well what are these what are these women supposed to do all these women that stepped in to run the country to step into the factories to
do the work and the men come home from war and what are they supposed to do? Go back to the kitchens? And he's like, well, do you expect the men coming back from war to go back to the kitchen? I mean, come on, be serious. I mean, it really like kind of took what was going on in the baseball world, which is just this small microcosm of the whole picture. What were we really looking at as women's equality and feminism and the shift that was happening in our country at the time, right?
Just Blane (14:21)
Mmm.
incredible time. mean, like you said, it was during World War II that this league did take place in the real world. I don't think that it was historically accurate, but this is definitely paying homage. But like I said, on paper, who would have greenlit this? But with the cast, and let's get to the cast in that chemistry, because that's what made this movie and sold this movie an absolute stacked.
Courtney Pearl (15:05)
Okay.
Ugh.
My gosh.
Just Blane (15:14)
cast, Gina Davis as Dottie, which by the way, we're going to play a Gina Davis interview, exclusive interview at the end of this. So stick around for that. We got Gina Davis at FanX. I'm going to talk about the host who did this interview with her as well, because we got to drop some out. But Gina Davis, the catcher, the natural, the reluctant star is what she is. And MLB, Major League Baseball, they still have all of this today. They have
Courtney Pearl (15:21)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Just Blane (15:42)
every one of these characters, I would say maybe, is somebody in that league right now. You can watch this movie and pick somebody from every team probably. So Lori is Kit Keller, Lori Petty, that's the younger sister, the scrappy pitcher, Madonna. And it's wild, because I rewatched this and I forgot Madonna was even in it.
Courtney Pearl (16:00)
Yeah.
my gosh, and isn't that insane because they put her as kind of like a draw, right? They're like, Madonna's getting into acting. She's a big name, big pop star. We all know who she is. ⁓ And people, there was some criticism too about that because they were like, is this gonna be like another Elvis kind of thing where you get somebody that big and then you just throw them into a movie and the movie's terrible, but like Elvis is in it. So people go see it.
Just Blane (16:17)
Yeah
Yeah.
Courtney Pearl (16:32)
And I'm so happy to report that's not how it was. Other than it was very awkward for almost the entire cast to have Madonna on set. There was reports of people being like, I just didn't know how to talk to her. I didn't know what to call her. Do I call her Madonna? I don't know. The only one that was really comfortable with Madonna was Rosie O'Donnell. So they got to be close friends and that's great. But yeah, big name. And if you look at like the original poster, she's kind of like.
Just Blane (16:44)
Yeah!
Courtney Pearl (16:59)
front and center there with Tom Hanks and Gina Davis. It's like, ⁓ and also Madonna.
Just Blane (17:06)
mean, Madonna was one, I mean, she still is, but she was at the time, one of the biggest known names there was, and still is today. But it's hard to do that. And I did hear about some of the cast going through that stuff. There was even ⁓ in between takes during the World Series filming thing, the rest of the actors would do performances for the unpaid extras. But Madonna would not come out and sing a song.
Courtney Pearl (17:12)
Yeah.
Yeah, the extras,
Just Blane (17:36)
So what the actors did were started singing Madonna's songs for her. And I thought that was great, but yeah.
Courtney Pearl (17:41)
Yeah. Rosie O'Donnell did, think too. Yeah.
And Tom Hanks would do puppet shows from the dugout for the extra while they were between takes. Yeah. Must've been a fun time.
Just Blane (17:49)
From the dugout, which is incredible. yeah, you got Madonna.
Adonah plays Doris, the heart of the team, the trash talker. She's that ride or die. And everybody's got one of them on their team as well. Tom Hanks, we've already mentioned him multiple times. Jimmy Dugan, the washed up former slugger, shows up drunk, but leaves a legend, really. And the cast,
Courtney Pearl (18:06)
Obviously. Obviously.
Just Blane (18:17)
works because it feels like a real team. Not just the actors playing parts, they went through actual baseball bootcamp together. That's tough. I've done that many, many times playing for all different leagues. And you will find out.
Courtney Pearl (18:19)
Yeah.
Just Blane (18:33)
who's real real quick and you and you you become real tight i mean it's it's yeah it's not as hard yeah boot camp
Courtney Pearl (18:35)
Yeah.
Like, boo camp.
Yeah, but did you have to go to charm school and learn how to be a upstanding gentleman in society as well as being trained to play baseball? Because that was hilarious to me. Hilarious and not funny. But it was like, hey, why don't we just do the same thing for the men on the men's team? Put them through gentlemen's school. In fact, let's do that with all men across sports everywhere and just be like.
Just Blane (18:49)
Nah.
Courtney Pearl (19:07)
hey, this is how you treat a lady. This is what consent is. I mean, let's just kind of do some general gentlemanly training. Can we do that? That'd be cool. Good. It's settled.
Just Blane (19:17)
I don't have a problem with it.
No problem from
just playing here. And I don't know if I'm the official spokesman for all men playing sports, but sure. I think so. Let's talk about some of the scenes in this movie, because there's a lot of iconic moments. I mean, the tryouts, the, you crying? Early in the film. That's a big one, early in the film. You you get this amazing scene.
Courtney Pearl (19:28)
You are in this realm, so yeah, I'll count it.
Yes.
The are you crying?
Just Blane (19:48)
And it kind of sets it. You're like, all right, this is gonna be special. This is gonna be wild. And it's farms and small towns across the Midwest and women showing up to prove they can play. And here's the, you crying? There's no crying in baseball.
Courtney Pearl (19:49)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah. Raise your hand freqs. If anyone's actually used that in their real life. huh. When I was a teacher we used to do, I'm going to give shout out to my, teacher friend Robin out there. If she's listening Robin, Mrs. Miller, she, she was my teacher next to me next door. And I mean, we would do it jokingly, not when it was a really serious situation, but we would go, there's no crying in third grade.
Just Blane (20:12)
We're all guilty.
Hahaha.
Courtney Pearl (20:34)
As teachers, you know, we'd be like, no, no, are you crying? No, there's no crying in second grade. We would use that all the time as teachers. It was fun.
Just Blane (20:42)
But I love
it. It's Tom Hanks and it was the tryouts and it led to the, there's no crying in baseball, but he's the coach and he's still hung over, basically useless at this point. And he finally loses it on Evelyn. And that's when it happens. She starts crying and he goes, are you crying? There's no crying in baseball. And yes, we have used this line a million times. It's been quoted.
Courtney Pearl (21:01)
She's so sensitive. mean
Just Blane (21:10)
misquoted all those kinds of things and it's funny, it's iconic, it's sad all at the same time, it's all these things.
Courtney Pearl (21:20)
Yeah, there's so much heart to it. One of the scenes that gets me every time and I think I cry every time I see it. like I said, I've seen this movie hundreds of times. I know it's coming, but the tryout scene, ⁓ they list all the names on the board and ⁓ they're like, if you've been cut, you leave the field. If you're in, to get with your team, whatever. And everyone's sitting down.
There's that one woman standing there at the board and he's kind of like, are you are you cut? If you're cut, you got to go. Like he's trying to like move her along and she's just pacing and and nervously twitching, know, fidgeting. And ⁓ and ⁓ the other woman runs up and says, can you read, honey? And she's like, no. And so they find her name together and her name is on it. And she's so excited and so
Just Blane (21:57)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Courtney Pearl (22:19)
I cry every time. She just couldn't read. She just needed some help. And then they teach her how to read throughout the rest of the movie. see Madonna's character, is teaching her how to read with some smut. Later, in a hilarious moment, she's like, what are you? What is she reading? No. But yeah, heart.
Just Blane (22:35)
Yeah, yeah!
I love that it makes
the viewer at home cry and you got crying on screen, but you've got Tom Hanks coach really playing and setting up this macho tough guy thing about how crying is basically showing weakness. What happens later in the film is something that I love and it's him crying when he finds out that the league is getting shut down.
And that's when we see that crying is not weakness, but it's showing that you care. And they care, coach, players, all of them. They care so much that it hurts. And I think that's a huge, just theme of the whole movie right there, that you said it, the fact that the viewers at home are already crying too. Maybe not the men, but we're macho with Tom Hanks at this point.
And not by the end, because if they shut this league down, yes, that's heartbreak to everybody involved, because you see what they've done. You see what they've put together and went through to get it together. You know, so I think that's a powerful opening early on. That's more than one scene, but I do. And you just go through a bunch of heartache in this. When kick gets traded, think about that.
Courtney Pearl (23:39)
this.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah. ⁓ the sister dynamic. ⁓ I am one of two. I have a sister. And the sister dynamic and the relationship there, it's very real, very personal, because sometimes you just, the person you love the most and the person closest to you, you grew up together, you know each other better than anyone. And it can also be the most sensitive, the most prickly, the most, I mean, if anyone else on that team was a
Just Blane (24:07)
That hits hard.
Yeah
Courtney Pearl (24:35)
big star and getting all the attention and really like rocking it as a player. ⁓ Kit would not have felt so personal about it, but she felt the living in the shadow of her sister her whole life in more ways than just baseball. Probably, I'm guessing just, you know, because acting was pretty good. The acting was good. So we know there's like a backstory to that. The feeling behind it is
Just Blane (24:47)
I'm ready.
yeah.
Courtney Pearl (25:03)
I want to shine on my own. want to show up. I want people to know that I'm here for it and I'm a good player and I have held my own here and not just daddy's kid sister all the time forever. You feel that.
Just Blane (25:19)
And let's get to the final game, the slide. Because after she's traded, they end up in the championship game. It's Doddy's team versus Kit's team. It's tied, bottom of the ninth, Kit's up the bat, Doddy's catching, Kit hits a line drive, rounds third, barrels towards home, Doddy has the ball, Kit destroys her. The ball flies loose, Kit scores, her team wins. And here's the debate.
Courtney Pearl (25:23)
Mm.
Just Blane (25:47)
that has raged for 30 plus years. Did Doddy drop the ball on purpose?
Courtney Pearl (25:52)
Yeah. She's the one. She's the one that said, it's just a game. It's just a game to me.
Just Blane (25:53)
Some say she did.
She's,
some say yeah, because she saw her sister come in and saw the hunger and let her have the moment. She knew what she'd been through. But some say no, Kit just hit her harder. She wanted it more. I don't know which boat I'm in. Which one are you in? Did you say, did you, do you think?
Courtney Pearl (26:10)
Yeah.
I don't know that it matters, I guess is where I come back to is ⁓ if she let it go on purpose, that would mean Kit didn't earn it on her own and that wouldn't have resolved anything. I think that if she, whether she did or she didn't, we can accept and embrace that Kit did this herself so that Kit can have it.
Just Blane (26:18)
Mmm.
Mmm!
Courtney Pearl (26:43)
Like she can have that moment. She can be like, I did it. I'm a real professional ball player. I won. I did it. I'm on my own doing this. I didn't have to be handed it. I didn't have to be allowed it. I just have it. It's just mine. That's I'm at with that.
Just Blane (26:43)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I love that take. I
love that take. then we get to see the Hall of Famer Union too. The older people, them as older. I love that scene.
Courtney Pearl (27:10)
Yeah. Yeah. can I
just say, okay, so Lynn Cartwright playing the older Dottie. When I was a kid, so of course this is 1992, this is before, you know, we have ⁓ any kind of technology and CGI and anything like that to make someone look older. ⁓ They were using makeup and special effects and things like that to age people, but they opted in this movie to get other actors to play.
the younger parts. when I was a kid, granted, I was seven or eight years old. So this is, you know, thinking from a seven and eight year old perspective. I was like, did they actually wait until those other actors were old? Because Lynn Cartwright playing the older Gina Davis, I thought they were the same person as a kid. I was like, this is insane.
This is them as an older version of that. I don't know if I could say that quite as closely with all the other actors. I mean, it was a great fit. This is why casting is such an important role in moviemaking. I'm so glad they added that category in the Oscars this year. Now that we have a casting director ⁓ can win an Oscar. But I was like, the casting on that was just right because I was like, I think they just filmed all that other stuff many, many years ago.
And now they're just filming this part now in my mind.
Just Blane (28:37)
That's great filmmaking right there. And Leon Cartwright, let me tell you, in some B movie, maybe even C movie classics, the Wasp Woman, and she was the queen of outer space. Some legendary flicks there. We might have to break those down one of these days. That'd be fun.
Courtney Pearl (28:54)
Yeah.
Now I think they did use Dina Davis's voice so that it matched, which was a good call because it really messed with my little head when I was like, whoa.
Just Blane (28:57)
Yeah.
Right? Right? And we did the...
Courtney Pearl (29:08)
Now what I'd like
to see is they just re-film all the older scenes with the same actors now and then just plug that into the movie. I think that would blow my mind.
Just Blane (29:17)
I mean, they got AI too they could mess with if they needed to, but they don't even have to. I don't think they have to these days, but.
Courtney Pearl (29:24)
Yeah,
let's just go get Rosie O'Donnell and Madonna and yeah, let's just get Juno Davis. Let's have them all play, they'll just refilm. They can have it set in the 90s, but they can just refilm those older parts and have them do the whole ⁓ coming back to the Hall of Fame reunion part at the end of the movie.
Just Blane (29:42)
And
we didn't even mention the iconic, if you build it, they would come. That's an easy one. I mean, that's an easy one. I love that too. And I've used that in many things in my life. I mean, who hasn't?
Courtney Pearl (29:56)
We're all doing that a little bit forever.
Just Blane (29:58)
Parallel frequencies
is built on that right there. It's built on that thought alone. If you build it, it will come.
Courtney Pearl (30:04)
Yes, we're building it. The
freqs will come. That's what we're hoping for.
Just Blane (30:08)
Yeah,
I gotta talk about one thing that they fumbled with this movie. The movie's very white.
Courtney Pearl (30:14)
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Just Blane (30:18)
The league that they're representing was segregated. Black women were not allowed to play in the movie. Just doesn't address it.
Courtney Pearl (30:29)
Well, there's
that one scene where they have a fly ball that is that what it's called fly ball? I don't even know. But the ball that goes somewhere, it's not supposed to go towards the fence. And there's a group of black women standing there and they catch the ball and they throw it back. And they're like, whoa, when they throw it, you know, it's it's a good throw. And they're like, whoa. And they just give a nod like we're here to don't forget about us. Right.
Just Blane (30:35)
Fly by, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. I think there's one more moment where maybe that's the same one where in the tryout scene. Is that the tryout scene or another one? Because there's a black woman in that and she gets told it's a whites only league. But that's it. There's no follow-up. There's no critique. There's no reckoning. I mean, I get it. Penny Marshall was trying to make a commercial hit, not a comprehensive history lesson, but that omission matters to me.
Courtney Pearl (30:58)
So that one little scene.
Just Blane (31:26)
leaving that out kind of matters. It flattens the story a little bit and does what we've said in the past, you know, it erases some of those voices of women who are fighting the same fight, but weren't even allowed in that door. So yeah.
Courtney Pearl (31:38)
Yes.
No, they weren't.
Yeah, I mean, this is, you know, when I when I started playing this for my kids, it just so happened my kids are learning about Jackie Robinson at school. And so we're talking about like, you know, the first introduction to desegregating baseball and ⁓ allowing white people, black people and people of color to play together. That conversation is definitely a part of that, ⁓ even more so than just.
Just Blane (31:51)
Yeah.
Courtney Pearl (32:10)
having a league that was for women.
Just Blane (32:12)
Jackie Robinson, number 42. That's why you don't see people wear their number 42 out there. It's retired because he broke down the barriers and he was a hell of a player. People don't even talk about it. Yeah, yeah. But they did address this situation in the Amazon series in 2022 when they did a league of their own. We won't go into that right now because we're just talking about the 1992 movie, but they did.
Courtney Pearl (32:24)
held his own, right? Yep.
Just Blane (32:41)
bring it back to that. But this movie to me is gonna stand the test of time. There's so many moments in there, even if baseball goes away forever at some point, it's America's pastime. I don't think it will unless we lose America. And who knows on that at the moment. But yeah, let that simmer for a second, right? But.
Courtney Pearl (33:04)
I'm like, mm.
Just Blane (33:05)
If baseball goes away, this movie still got the themes of life that you need, that you gotta take. You gotta get some of these things and take them. And Gina Davis, let's get, before we get to her, I wanna get your final thoughts on A League of Their Own.
Courtney Pearl (33:21)
Yeah,
I always like to pick a scene that just kind of like if in my opinion, what is the scene that shows what we're trying to relay in this movie? Like what is it that we're showing? And I'm to pick a scene that is not as widely known. People are not going to think of a League of their own and think of this scene. I want you to think about the scene when Doris is talking to a group of players. think Betty Spaghetti is sitting next to her.
And they're kind of just on the tour bus. It's like nighttime, they're traveling between games. They're just chatting. Dorothy, Rosie O'Donnell has a picture of her boyfriend, Charlie. And they're like, is this your boyfriend? And she's like, yeah, he's stupid. He treats me bad. ⁓ You know, whatever. And they're like, well, then why? And she's like, why? I just never thought I deserved anything better.
And in that moment, she realizes, well, wait a minute, I'm out here playing professional baseball. I'm pretty freaking awesome. I do deserve better than someone who just treats me bad. I'm not gonna go home and marry a guy just because he's there and just because he's my only option or I thought he was my only option. I mean, you see it play out in her head, the subtext of this. And she's like, yeah, I guess I just, you know, before this, I never thought I deserved better than this.
Just Blane (34:17)
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Courtney Pearl (34:46)
And then she rips up the picture of Charlie and she throws it out the window and says, goodbye, Charlie. And I want to highlight that scene because when we empower women to be able to go into spaces like baseball or the professional world or whatever it is, and I know the fight in this country is very much like put women back in their place in the kitchen, raising kids and whatever. What actually happens? The effect of that is what do we
We control women like that. What message are we giving them that they only deserve? What man will have them? A man who potentially will treat them bad, who's stupid, stupid and treats me stupid, ugly and treats me bad, I think is what she says. But I think that really, really is something to look at is like she got an opportunity to see herself as powerful, as capable, as smart. And then
Charlie don't look so good no more, right? She's like, maybe I don't need this guy. Maybe I don't need this guy for that. So that's my takeaway on the league of their own.
Just Blane (35:55)
Very powerful. I love it. I love Whistful Wednesdays. People love this. The freqs out there are loving this. We did Alien last week. People love that one. That's one of our most watched. I think this one might pass that for the freqs. I think they're gonna enjoy this. And what we're gonna do now is play an interview, an exclusive interview, never before seen interview with Gina Davis from FanX right? And let me set this thing up. This was FanX.
2024 and the way I've, we've talked about this before and the way we get access to these superstars and these celebrities and these people who are world known, famous, famous, the most famous is through Promise To Live. And that's a suicide prevention, suicide awareness organization. We've been working with them for a couple of years. Ride The Wave Media has been with them, partnered with them and
Courtney Pearl (36:49)
Okay.
Just Blane (36:52)
We go to these events and we tell them why we're there. So I want people to know that when we ask questions about suicide to these celebrities, it's not just boom, we drop this bomb on them. No, no, no, no, no. They know what they're gonna talk to us for. And they are very willing to give messages of hope to people who need it. 988, that's the number you can call if you have any of these.
Courtney Pearl (37:15)
Yeah.
Just Blane (37:21)
feelings, thoughts. We're not professionals called the professionals. This interview, I got to tell you though, because I was working with another co-host, not Coco, it was Becks Neilson who is one of the most genuine and authentic real estate agents. And I know some of that right there sounds contradictory, but I promise you she is.
Courtney Pearl (37:23)
Yep.
Yeah, Becks!
She's the best. She is.
Just Blane (37:46)
It's like saying an
honest lawyer or something, you know, but she is, she's a genuine, authentic real estate. She sold me my house and she lives one straight up from me. We're in the same neighborhood. We started a podcast together. We were doing radio daybreak together. The next thing you know, she goes from never having a microphone in her face to doing this podcast with me and.
Courtney Pearl (37:52)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Just Blane (38:11)
being in front of a bunch of celebrities. We went to do a red carpet, same one me and Coco have done. Same organization, Promise to Live. So we're, yeah, OG, she's OG. So we were at FanX 2024, and this is her first time being around any of these big names. at my stage in my career, it's no big deal. I'm like, all right, let's go talk to Billy Boyd and let's go hit my buddy Logic over here, the rapper, and then,
Courtney Pearl (38:13)
She's the OG.
Just Blane (38:40)
Let's go see Peter Billingsley from a Christmas store. You know, I'm like, no big deal. So fast forward and Gina Davis agrees to talk to us. Well, I'm nowhere to be found because I'm chatting it up with Jonathan Frakes from Star Trek, right? And Becks is like, so what do I do? What do I do? I'm like, well, you can handle it. You can talk to Gina Davis by yourself. So she gets thrown on the spot and being the pure professional she is.
rocked it. And we're going to play that interview, but I got to set Becks up because yeah, wonderful, incredible real estate agent. And just, like I said, you know her, say a couple of nice words about her cause she's going to see this. So.
Courtney Pearl (39:11)
Mm-hmm.
She's all about community. That's my favorite thing about Becks is she is in the community interviewing, talking to people. She wants to know what businesses and different people are doing in the community, people who volunteer. That's what she's all about.
Just Blane (39:40)
all about. So let's go ahead and play this interview exclusive with Gina Davis.
favorite theme meeting your fans? I just started doing these this year. As soon as they're ended, I don't want to convince you. You'll see how much fun it is. And it's so much fun. It's really great. Everybody's so nice and excited. It's a big laugh.
Courtney Pearl (39:55)
you you
Just Blane (40:15)
time. Have you been to Salt Lake City much? Yes, I have. Yeah. Have you done a lot of filming here? ⁓ Well, we
shot a lot of them in Louise. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to ask you about that. So what was kind of one of your favorite, favorite things about the Thelma and Louise or, know, maybe something your fans don't know about the behind the scenes shooting with that role? That's interesting.
mean, was such gorgeous, all that gorgeous scenery in the movie. were just driving around. It was just beautiful. It was amazing. And we recreated the Grand Canyon here, know. Yeah. Specifically the Grand Canyon. there's, I don't know what happened to the, we sent, I think we might have sent three cars off the cliff. Oh. With.
in the close. Just going over that cliff. Just going over the cliff. Wow. It was weird when we were getting ready in the mornings. There'd be these models of us sitting around and they're putting makeup on.
Courtney Pearl (41:13)
⁓
Just Blane (41:27)
So were you privy to watching that go over the cliff? you there? yeah, I was there. I wanted to see what that was like. And the first one that went off, the cliff, they designed this whole rig.
Courtney Pearl (41:33)
You
Just Blane (41:49)
You're like, let's keep that straight because that's such an iconic scene to that movie, right? With that car.
We are also here with Promise to Live. We know you do a lot of advocacy work, especially gender equality in your industry. So I'd like you to speak just a little bit to that and then let's have you answer that actually for us first. Yeah. it well, partly it started.
and seeing the reaction to the movie and it made me realize in a very positive
women get to come out of a movie feeling inspired by the female characters. So it became really paramount in my mind. So then when had a daughter and I started watching kids programming with her, I was like, wait a minute. Where are they? They're they've got be from little, kids. It wasn't equal characters. So that definitely started up a little bit.
gender parity on screen, particularly in what's made for little kids, because we judge our values.
Mm. ⁓
Courtney Pearl (43:21)
.
Just Blane (43:38)
I I'm so blessed, obviously. But it's hard not to know when your next job is going to go on or what's going to happen. So that's, like I said, I couldn't possibly complain about how everything's going.
So I would assume there's a lot of high and lows, rejection of roles, things like that. So any messages of hope for fans who may be going through some similar high and lows and some struggles currently in their lives.
always feel like my sort of philosophy of work still is that things will always work out. And sometimes it's hard to that in mind, but that eventually things will work out. And I find keeping a positive attitude about that as much as you can. Certainly some people believe that you can draw to you.
Thank you for that.
Maybe you froze. You still there?
Courtney Pearl (45:05)
Yeah.
Just Blane (45:07)
Beautiful, beautiful Gina Davis. You saw Dottie behind her in the background. I love that.
Courtney Pearl (45:10)
She's amazing.
Yeah,
perfect. Perfect for our topic today.
Just Blane (45:19)
Becks didn't know two years ago that we were going to be talking about a league of their own today. So she was asking about Thelma and Louise, but that one hits hard too.
Courtney Pearl (45:28)
Yeah, and I just love that Geena Davis is ⁓ such an advocate for the gender equality and that's kind of her platform. And I think that's perfect because, I mean, if nothing else, that's what I get from a league of their own.
Just Blane (45:41)
Yeah,
yeah, absolutely. And once again, Promise2Live dot org. Go make the promise right now. Make the Promise2Live It's important. Mental health is important. And there'll be people out there in the comments seeing this and be like, ⁓ he's a snowflake or whatever they call him. No, no, no, no, no. Get it. Get that macho attitude out of here. Like we got to take care of one another and be able to say that we're not OK.
Courtney Pearl (46:10)
Yeah, well, I love that the people who usually say something about being a snowflake are usually the people who are going to flat out destroy a television over a game that they're watching or something like that. If you don't have control of your emotions, your emotions have control over you. So I don't think there's anything snowflake about that.
Just Blane (46:27)
I'm honest.
You see my LA Dodger hat. I might destroy a TV tomorrow if they lose the opening day. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But you're absolutely correct. Once again, go to Promise2Live.org. That's going to be it. That's a heavy way to end it right here. But this is real life. We like to, like Gina Davis said it, reflect, be a mirror. And that's what we're trying to do here with parallel frequencies. I'm just playing.
Courtney Pearl (46:53)
Yeah.
Just Blane (46:57)
That's Coco, you're the freqs, we love you guys, and we'll see you on the other side.
Courtney Pearl (47:02)
See ya.
Okay.
Three, two, one.
parallel frequencies with Just Blane and Coco and all the freqs out there. Coco, you know what? I don't usually jump ahead, but I am pumped for Freqy Friday this week because I responding to the comments. I mean, last Friday, Feature Friday, Freqy Friday, I told you beforehand, I was like, yeah, we'll just go through comments, you know, two, three minutes, and then we'll get to the content, to our main show.
Courtney Pearl (00:15)
Yeah.
Just Blane (00:33)
We went like 18 minutes with just the comic. So.
Courtney Pearl (00:35)
I love
hearing what you have to say. And I dare say many people are out there really excited for Friday. Freqy Friday, Feature Friday. We're all just looking forward to Friday. We love Friday.
Just Blane (00:48)
I know, I know, and I know it's
only Wistful Wednesday right now, but I am, I'm excited because I have seen some of the comments coming in from the freqs and they're riding with us. Let's just say that first of all, they're riding with us. They're on the same, at least playing with us, but the frequencies are different and that's what we're here for. But the deep thought put into a lot of these comments, I'm loving. So keep those coming.
Courtney Pearl (01:04)
Uh-huh.
Just Blane (01:18)
We got a lot of comments on a clip that was just kind of sporadic. I just happened to find my Joker card. Remember this? Now you remember me talking about this finding random cards just out of their pack and you thought it was wild. You were like, what? I've never heard of this, right? Tell us, me and you are together. And what did we see in a random place?
Courtney Pearl (01:18)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Finding my cards.
Yeah.
Just Blane (01:47)
I want you just to tell it and throw it out there what we saw and me give you that nudge. What do we see?
Courtney Pearl (01:51)
Yeah,
we're like, we were at hearthside games over here in what is it? South Jordan, West Jordan, I think that they're technically in, but over here by us where we're at and we walked up, they were playing games. I think the World of Warcraft over there at the table and tattoo on a guy's arm. I'm trying to remember which playing card it was. Ace of diamonds.
Just Blane (02:10)
Ace of diamonds.
It was an ace of diamonds on his, now we're in a card draw. So, you know, I'm not gonna think, if I see cards, I'm not gonna think anything, but the way this one was presented to us, you knew it too, right? Like you saw this, I'm like, hey, that's not normal. That's not normal.
Courtney Pearl (02:15)
Yeah, right here.
Yeah.
Yeah, and that is
how it works, right? I I feel like when it's a omen, spiritual, maybe a little mystical, when it's like showing up in that way, I mean, a lot of people can just kind of dismiss it like, coincidences, whatever, you you're gonna notice that more, because you're looking for it. But there's a little something different about when it shows up and you're like, but this is in a totally unexpected way that this is showing up, right? And that's what you keep having with these playing cards.
Just Blane (03:01)
Now, I'm going to add to the mystery a little bit. Now, my wife and I, we were in a vintage record shop over the weekend, okay? And I'm just browsing around and I find this. I didn't buy these. Maybe I should have, but if you look.
There's the queen of clubs and a jack of clubs and whatever they used for, they were random. One of them was just a price tag and the other one was just laying there. And I looked all over this store and that was the only two cards in there. What does this mean, Coco?
Courtney Pearl (03:26)
Yeah.
Yeah, I wanted to look it up and see what other people said about it. But before I say that, I want to ask you, when you think of playing cards in general, when you just think of that, what word comes to your mind? What meaning does it have for you? Is there anyone you specifically associate with playing cards or you're like, it always reminds me of
Just Blane (04:03)
No, not necessarily, but I was always a good poker player. I just don't like doing it. I was a great poker player. I have a wild theory before you tell me what it actually is, because I hope I'm wrong.
Courtney Pearl (04:05)
You don't have anything that pops up like that.
Okay. Okay.
okay.
Just Blane (04:23)
We started out with the joker and then we got an ace of diamonds and then we got a queen of clubs and a jack of clubs. We skipped the king. I hope to God it's not counting down.
to something awful like my demise, my doom, my death. Or maybe I'm putting together, maybe I've got to put a full deck of cards together before the end of my life. That's a movie in itself.
Courtney Pearl (04:46)
then
you got time, yeah. You'll be fine. Well, is that, I don't know poker well enough to know, is that a hand that you would want?
Just Blane (04:55)
⁓
I mean, well, a joker would not be in a poker game. But I mean, the high cards, yeah, sure. Ace, queen, and a jack.
Courtney Pearl (04:58)
yeah, yeah, of course.
You're like, I'm
putting together something that's going to be kind of helpful and useful. I mean, it is the sign of good fortune. think that I think that in general, the idea is that it's, you know, taking risks, seeing what life has planned for you. And then like seeing the cards come up like that are kind of like you're on the right path. You're whatever it is that you're doing, whatever you're taking a chance on, you're on the right path. So that's a
Just Blane (05:31)
Okay.
Courtney Pearl (05:32)
That's far more hopeful than a countdown, I think.
Just Blane (05:35)
You had, I'm just, I got myself psyched out I think because I'm looking at it like, my God, I'm finding cards, just counting down. Like what happens at the end? What happens when I get the two? Or is the ace the beginning or the end? I guess it goes both ways, know, ace is high, ace is low. Yeah.
Courtney Pearl (05:50)
I know nobody knows the rules to this game. ⁓
You're like, wait, our ace is high? What's happening? Someone tell me.
Just Blane (05:58)
I'm making the game,
making the rules as we go to my own game, guess. Speaking of games, yeah, we do.
Courtney Pearl (06:03)
And that's kind of the point, right? That's why I asked you
what your meaning was to it, because the intention of the meaning you put to it is really what matters more than a Google search that says, like, this is what cards mean. I think that there's a lot of cool theories out there, a lot of like, this is culturally what we associate with these omen signs, things like that. I, especially when I do dream interpretation sessions with clients, I'll be like, okay, let's break it down. It's kind of like Mad Libs. We're like, okay.
Just Blane (06:31)
Okay, yeah.
Courtney Pearl (06:32)
You know, you saw an episode of Practically Magic where I did a dream interpretation and I said, okay, well, what does whales, whales, what does that mean to you? I can tell you what culturally whales mean, but what does it feel like to you? And then we go from there. So I think it's, it's all about intention. I think it's the right path, not the countdown.
Just Blane (06:45)
Hmm.
Alright.
So don't treat it nefariously and it won't do it back. Yeah, okay. I loved it. I love that. I can play that game. it's whisper Wednesday and we are talking about a game and that's pretty broad, but we've already teased this. got the LA hat on. It's opening day of major league baseball and Coco just happened to schedule a league of their own.
Courtney Pearl (06:54)
Mmm, it won't be. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
I did.
Just Blane (07:19)
And I love this movie. And it's the 1992 Penny Marshall masterpiece that somehow convinced an entire generation that women's baseball was the coolest damn thing ever. And here's the thing, it was. It really was. This movie came out when I was a kid. I remember watching it thinking, is this a sports movie?
Courtney Pearl (07:34)
I know.
Mm-hmm.
Just Blane (07:44)
Or is it just a movie about everything? And that's really what it came down to is family, identity, what it costs to be great when the world doesn't want you to be. And that's what happens to these women. Dottie, Mae, all of them. Played by an incredible cast. Yeah, right? But I'm so glad that you put this on the docket because, well, first of all, just want, I mean,
Courtney Pearl (08:00)
DORIT
Just Blane (08:12)
Who doesn't want to see Tom Hanks peeing for like 47 seconds, right? That's a whole, I bet they did. I did too. Growing up, I thought that was great. But yeah, this is the movie for today for Whistful Wednesday, a league of their own. We're going to break it down. We're going to tell you why this movie still hits, why it got some stuff right, why it fumbled others and why the final scene will destroy anybody.
Courtney Pearl (08:16)
That's my favorite. My kids thought that was hilarious. They watched it, yeah.
Just Blane (08:41)
Coco, what's your thoughts though, right off the top from a league of their own?
Courtney Pearl (08:44)
You know, I've watched this movie. I mean, this is probably one of my, that movie that comes on TV or it just happens to be playing or you come across it as you're doing that Netflix scroll date night thing. You know how you guys like go, we're watch a movie, but then you just scroll forever. Anytime it comes up. I mean, I've seen it hundreds of times over my lifetime. And it's so interesting how each phase of my life,
Just Blane (09:00)
Yeah.
Courtney Pearl (09:12)
there's a completely different focus or focal point that I take from it. As a kid, the whole women playing baseball, look what women can do. We can be just as good and just as exciting as men playing baseball in a time when the men were going off to war and the women stepped up and Rosie the Riveter and all of that stuff was, know, proving women could do it. And as a little girl, loved that.
Just Blane (09:18)
Mm-hmm.
Courtney Pearl (09:39)
loved that part was like, yeah, girls can do it too. We can do anything, you know, and wanting to prove myself. I was not athletic whatsoever, but you better believe that I set up pretend bases in my living room and pretended athletic really well. Like I was sliding into home and, know, I wanted to believe I could be one of those really athletic people that could sacrifice their body for the game. I'm not, by the way, not even.
Just Blane (10:08)
No?
Courtney Pearl (10:08)
it. I've played real games and I'm the one hiding in the back, back, back, back of the field, just like hoping the ball doesn't come to me. That's more like my style. did cross country because you didn't have to try out. You didn't have to do anything. You just ran. Yeah, so that was more my speed. But I loved the idea. I love the idea of it. And then as I got older, you know, this idea of like this isn't a baseball movie at all.
Just Blane (10:25)
You had to show up and run. You like those? Yeah, no coaching.
Courtney Pearl (10:38)
Yeah, sure. Like the central plot and the setting of it is baseball. But it's really about allowing people to have the American dream. What is the American dream really? And is it really just applicable to a certain demographic or is it applicable to are we allowing it for women? Are we allowing it for people of color? You know, is it's about these women who love baseball.
Just Blane (10:42)
Thank
Courtney Pearl (11:06)
just as much as men love playing baseball and getting their chance to do it. I mean, look at the difference between Kit and Dottie, right? Shows perfectly. Yeah.
Just Blane (11:15)
Absolutely. And let's
set this thing up with the context and the cultural moment that it was. I remember watching this movie when I was younger in 1992. We won't say the actual age. I remember watching it. I don't think I ever looked at it as a women empowerment or women playing baseball. I didn't think, I thought it was baseball movie. I loved baseball. I was a huge baseball player. Anything that was baseball related, you better believe I was going to watch it, whether it was a league of their own.
Courtney Pearl (11:37)
hehe
Just Blane (11:43)
Rookie of the Year, Sandlot. I mean, any of these were legends to me just because it was baseball. And that was my generic language. It was baseball. So I didn't care that the fact that they were women or any of that. I was gonna watch it anyway and enjoy it. Later on is when I started realizing, you know, as I've watched it many times growing up, it did start hitting a little bit different, but let's set the scene because 1992.
Courtney Pearl (11:46)
Love you.
Just Blane (12:12)
You got Penny Marshall, who was already a legend for big decides to make a movie about the all American girls professional baseball league. Well, on paper, it sounds like a flop. You didn't have women's sports today. They still struggle 2026. They still struggle. It's people. It, there is even then the WNBA when you've got super stars and I'm talking
Courtney Pearl (12:29)
Yep. Still a huge pay gap and respect gap.
Mmm.
Just Blane (12:39)
global stars like a Caitlin Clark that has put WNBA and say what you want about her, think whatever, but I don't care what you say. Without her, the WNBA's not doing, they're not getting private jets. They're not getting a pay raise. They're not getting national TV exposure. So it still struggles today. So in 92, you put this on paper and it sounds like a flop, honestly. Minus the cast.
Courtney Pearl (13:02)
Mm-hmm.
Just Blane (13:08)
Tom Hanks, Gina Davis, Madonna, Rosie O'Donnell goes on and on, we'll talk about them. But really, until this movie, you didn't see anything like this, especially something that was basically made for a forgotten part of history, because it does kind of double as a historical reference here for what's going on. It's not a dry documentary with.
Courtney Pearl (13:29)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Just Blane (13:35)
a very special TV movie. It's not one of those, but it is paying homage to the professional baseball players that were playing it.
Courtney Pearl (13:46)
in general all the women and when they stepped in for two professional roles and I love that conversation that he has with ⁓ who was gary marshall penny's brother was playing the walter harvey and ira loewenstein and him are having a conversation about shutting down the league the war is almost over he's like well what are these what are these women supposed to do all these women that stepped in to run the country to step into the factories to
do the work and the men come home from war and what are they supposed to do? Go back to the kitchens? And he's like, well, do you expect the men coming back from war to go back to the kitchen? I mean, come on, be serious. I mean, it really like kind of took what was going on in the baseball world, which is just this small microcosm of the whole picture. What were we really looking at as women's equality and feminism and the shift that was happening in our country at the time, right?
Just Blane (14:21)
Mmm.
incredible time. mean, like you said, it was during World War II that this league did take place in the real world. I don't think that it was historically accurate, but this is definitely paying homage. But like I said, on paper, who would have greenlit this? But with the cast, and let's get to the cast in that chemistry, because that's what made this movie and sold this movie an absolute stacked.
Courtney Pearl (15:05)
Okay.
Ugh.
My gosh.
Just Blane (15:14)
cast, Gina Davis as Dottie, which by the way, we're going to play a Gina Davis interview, exclusive interview at the end of this. So stick around for that. We got Gina Davis at FanX. I'm going to talk about the host who did this interview with her as well, because we got to drop some out. But Gina Davis, the catcher, the natural, the reluctant star is what she is. And MLB, Major League Baseball, they still have all of this today. They have
Courtney Pearl (15:21)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Just Blane (15:42)
every one of these characters, I would say maybe, is somebody in that league right now. You can watch this movie and pick somebody from every team probably. So Lori is Kit Keller, Lori Petty, that's the younger sister, the scrappy pitcher, Madonna. And it's wild, because I rewatched this and I forgot Madonna was even in it.
Courtney Pearl (16:00)
Yeah.
my gosh, and isn't that insane because they put her as kind of like a draw, right? They're like, Madonna's getting into acting. She's a big name, big pop star. We all know who she is. ⁓ And people, there was some criticism too about that because they were like, is this gonna be like another Elvis kind of thing where you get somebody that big and then you just throw them into a movie and the movie's terrible, but like Elvis is in it. So people go see it.
Just Blane (16:17)
Yeah
Yeah.
Courtney Pearl (16:32)
And I'm so happy to report that's not how it was. Other than it was very awkward for almost the entire cast to have Madonna on set. There was reports of people being like, I just didn't know how to talk to her. I didn't know what to call her. Do I call her Madonna? I don't know. The only one that was really comfortable with Madonna was Rosie O'Donnell. So they got to be close friends and that's great. But yeah, big name. And if you look at like the original poster, she's kind of like.
Just Blane (16:44)
Yeah!
Courtney Pearl (16:59)
front and center there with Tom Hanks and Gina Davis. It's like, ⁓ and also Madonna.
Just Blane (17:06)
mean, Madonna was one, I mean, she still is, but she was at the time, one of the biggest known names there was, and still is today. But it's hard to do that. And I did hear about some of the cast going through that stuff. There was even ⁓ in between takes during the World Series filming thing, the rest of the actors would do performances for the unpaid extras. But Madonna would not come out and sing a song.
Courtney Pearl (17:12)
Yeah.
Yeah, the extras,
Just Blane (17:36)
So what the actors did were started singing Madonna's songs for her. And I thought that was great, but yeah.
Courtney Pearl (17:41)
Yeah. Rosie O'Donnell did, think too. Yeah.
And Tom Hanks would do puppet shows from the dugout for the extra while they were between takes. Yeah. Must've been a fun time.
Just Blane (17:49)
From the dugout, which is incredible. yeah, you got Madonna.
Adonah plays Doris, the heart of the team, the trash talker. She's that ride or die. And everybody's got one of them on their team as well. Tom Hanks, we've already mentioned him multiple times. Jimmy Dugan, the washed up former slugger, shows up drunk, but leaves a legend, really. And the cast,
Courtney Pearl (18:06)
Obviously. Obviously.
Just Blane (18:17)
works because it feels like a real team. Not just the actors playing parts, they went through actual baseball bootcamp together. That's tough. I've done that many, many times playing for all different leagues. And you will find out.
Courtney Pearl (18:19)
Yeah.
Just Blane (18:33)
who's real real quick and you and you you become real tight i mean it's it's yeah it's not as hard yeah boot camp
Courtney Pearl (18:35)
Yeah.
Like, boo camp.
Yeah, but did you have to go to charm school and learn how to be a upstanding gentleman in society as well as being trained to play baseball? Because that was hilarious to me. Hilarious and not funny. But it was like, hey, why don't we just do the same thing for the men on the men's team? Put them through gentlemen's school. In fact, let's do that with all men across sports everywhere and just be like.
Just Blane (18:49)
Nah.
Courtney Pearl (19:07)
hey, this is how you treat a lady. This is what consent is. I mean, let's just kind of do some general gentlemanly training. Can we do that? That'd be cool. Good. It's settled.
Just Blane (19:17)
I don't have a problem with it.
No problem from
just playing here. And I don't know if I'm the official spokesman for all men playing sports, but sure. I think so. Let's talk about some of the scenes in this movie, because there's a lot of iconic moments. I mean, the tryouts, the, you crying? Early in the film. That's a big one, early in the film. You you get this amazing scene.
Courtney Pearl (19:28)
You are in this realm, so yeah, I'll count it.
Yes.
The are you crying?
Just Blane (19:48)
And it kind of sets it. You're like, all right, this is gonna be special. This is gonna be wild. And it's farms and small towns across the Midwest and women showing up to prove they can play. And here's the, you crying? There's no crying in baseball.
Courtney Pearl (19:49)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah. Raise your hand freqs. If anyone's actually used that in their real life. huh. When I was a teacher we used to do, I'm going to give shout out to my, teacher friend Robin out there. If she's listening Robin, Mrs. Miller, she, she was my teacher next to me next door. And I mean, we would do it jokingly, not when it was a really serious situation, but we would go, there's no crying in third grade.
Just Blane (20:12)
We're all guilty.
Hahaha.
Courtney Pearl (20:34)
As teachers, you know, we'd be like, no, no, are you crying? No, there's no crying in second grade. We would use that all the time as teachers. It was fun.
Just Blane (20:42)
But I love
it. It's Tom Hanks and it was the tryouts and it led to the, there's no crying in baseball, but he's the coach and he's still hung over, basically useless at this point. And he finally loses it on Evelyn. And that's when it happens. She starts crying and he goes, are you crying? There's no crying in baseball. And yes, we have used this line a million times. It's been quoted.
Courtney Pearl (21:01)
She's so sensitive. mean
Just Blane (21:10)
misquoted all those kinds of things and it's funny, it's iconic, it's sad all at the same time, it's all these things.
Courtney Pearl (21:20)
Yeah, there's so much heart to it. One of the scenes that gets me every time and I think I cry every time I see it. like I said, I've seen this movie hundreds of times. I know it's coming, but the tryout scene, ⁓ they list all the names on the board and ⁓ they're like, if you've been cut, you leave the field. If you're in, to get with your team, whatever. And everyone's sitting down.
There's that one woman standing there at the board and he's kind of like, are you are you cut? If you're cut, you got to go. Like he's trying to like move her along and she's just pacing and and nervously twitching, know, fidgeting. And ⁓ and ⁓ the other woman runs up and says, can you read, honey? And she's like, no. And so they find her name together and her name is on it. And she's so excited and so
Just Blane (21:57)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Courtney Pearl (22:19)
I cry every time. She just couldn't read. She just needed some help. And then they teach her how to read throughout the rest of the movie. see Madonna's character, is teaching her how to read with some smut. Later, in a hilarious moment, she's like, what are you? What is she reading? No. But yeah, heart.
Just Blane (22:35)
Yeah, yeah!
I love that it makes
the viewer at home cry and you got crying on screen, but you've got Tom Hanks coach really playing and setting up this macho tough guy thing about how crying is basically showing weakness. What happens later in the film is something that I love and it's him crying when he finds out that the league is getting shut down.
And that's when we see that crying is not weakness, but it's showing that you care. And they care, coach, players, all of them. They care so much that it hurts. And I think that's a huge, just theme of the whole movie right there, that you said it, the fact that the viewers at home are already crying too. Maybe not the men, but we're macho with Tom Hanks at this point.
And not by the end, because if they shut this league down, yes, that's heartbreak to everybody involved, because you see what they've done. You see what they've put together and went through to get it together. You know, so I think that's a powerful opening early on. That's more than one scene, but I do. And you just go through a bunch of heartache in this. When kick gets traded, think about that.
Courtney Pearl (23:39)
this.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah. ⁓ the sister dynamic. ⁓ I am one of two. I have a sister. And the sister dynamic and the relationship there, it's very real, very personal, because sometimes you just, the person you love the most and the person closest to you, you grew up together, you know each other better than anyone. And it can also be the most sensitive, the most prickly, the most, I mean, if anyone else on that team was a
Just Blane (24:07)
That hits hard.
Yeah
Courtney Pearl (24:35)
big star and getting all the attention and really like rocking it as a player. ⁓ Kit would not have felt so personal about it, but she felt the living in the shadow of her sister her whole life in more ways than just baseball. Probably, I'm guessing just, you know, because acting was pretty good. The acting was good. So we know there's like a backstory to that. The feeling behind it is
Just Blane (24:47)
I'm ready.
yeah.
Courtney Pearl (25:03)
I want to shine on my own. want to show up. I want people to know that I'm here for it and I'm a good player and I have held my own here and not just daddy's kid sister all the time forever. You feel that.
Just Blane (25:19)
And let's get to the final game, the slide. Because after she's traded, they end up in the championship game. It's Doddy's team versus Kit's team. It's tied, bottom of the ninth, Kit's up the bat, Doddy's catching, Kit hits a line drive, rounds third, barrels towards home, Doddy has the ball, Kit destroys her. The ball flies loose, Kit scores, her team wins. And here's the debate.
Courtney Pearl (25:23)
Mm.
Just Blane (25:47)
that has raged for 30 plus years. Did Doddy drop the ball on purpose?
Courtney Pearl (25:52)
Yeah. She's the one. She's the one that said, it's just a game. It's just a game to me.
Just Blane (25:53)
Some say she did.
She's,
some say yeah, because she saw her sister come in and saw the hunger and let her have the moment. She knew what she'd been through. But some say no, Kit just hit her harder. She wanted it more. I don't know which boat I'm in. Which one are you in? Did you say, did you, do you think?
Courtney Pearl (26:10)
Yeah.
I don't know that it matters, I guess is where I come back to is ⁓ if she let it go on purpose, that would mean Kit didn't earn it on her own and that wouldn't have resolved anything. I think that if she, whether she did or she didn't, we can accept and embrace that Kit did this herself so that Kit can have it.
Just Blane (26:18)
Mmm.
Mmm!
Courtney Pearl (26:43)
Like she can have that moment. She can be like, I did it. I'm a real professional ball player. I won. I did it. I'm on my own doing this. I didn't have to be handed it. I didn't have to be allowed it. I just have it. It's just mine. That's I'm at with that.
Just Blane (26:43)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I love that take. I
love that take. then we get to see the Hall of Famer Union too. The older people, them as older. I love that scene.
Courtney Pearl (27:10)
Yeah. Yeah. can I
just say, okay, so Lynn Cartwright playing the older Dottie. When I was a kid, so of course this is 1992, this is before, you know, we have ⁓ any kind of technology and CGI and anything like that to make someone look older. ⁓ They were using makeup and special effects and things like that to age people, but they opted in this movie to get other actors to play.
the younger parts. when I was a kid, granted, I was seven or eight years old. So this is, you know, thinking from a seven and eight year old perspective. I was like, did they actually wait until those other actors were old? Because Lynn Cartwright playing the older Gina Davis, I thought they were the same person as a kid. I was like, this is insane.
This is them as an older version of that. I don't know if I could say that quite as closely with all the other actors. I mean, it was a great fit. This is why casting is such an important role in moviemaking. I'm so glad they added that category in the Oscars this year. Now that we have a casting director ⁓ can win an Oscar. But I was like, the casting on that was just right because I was like, I think they just filmed all that other stuff many, many years ago.
And now they're just filming this part now in my mind.
Just Blane (28:37)
That's great filmmaking right there. And Leon Cartwright, let me tell you, in some B movie, maybe even C movie classics, the Wasp Woman, and she was the queen of outer space. Some legendary flicks there. We might have to break those down one of these days. That'd be fun.
Courtney Pearl (28:54)
Yeah.
Now I think they did use Dina Davis's voice so that it matched, which was a good call because it really messed with my little head when I was like, whoa.
Just Blane (28:57)
Yeah.
Right? Right? And we did the...
Courtney Pearl (29:08)
Now what I'd like
to see is they just re-film all the older scenes with the same actors now and then just plug that into the movie. I think that would blow my mind.
Just Blane (29:17)
I mean, they got AI too they could mess with if they needed to, but they don't even have to. I don't think they have to these days, but.
Courtney Pearl (29:24)
Yeah,
let's just go get Rosie O'Donnell and Madonna and yeah, let's just get Juno Davis. Let's have them all play, they'll just refilm. They can have it set in the 90s, but they can just refilm those older parts and have them do the whole ⁓ coming back to the Hall of Fame reunion part at the end of the movie.
Just Blane (29:42)
And
we didn't even mention the iconic, if you build it, they would come. That's an easy one. I mean, that's an easy one. I love that too. And I've used that in many things in my life. I mean, who hasn't?
Courtney Pearl (29:56)
We're all doing that a little bit forever.
Just Blane (29:58)
Parallel frequencies
is built on that right there. It's built on that thought alone. If you build it, it will come.
Courtney Pearl (30:04)
Yes, we're building it. The
freqs will come. That's what we're hoping for.
Just Blane (30:08)
Yeah,
I gotta talk about one thing that they fumbled with this movie. The movie's very white.
Courtney Pearl (30:14)
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Just Blane (30:18)
The league that they're representing was segregated. Black women were not allowed to play in the movie. Just doesn't address it.
Courtney Pearl (30:29)
Well, there's
that one scene where they have a fly ball that is that what it's called fly ball? I don't even know. But the ball that goes somewhere, it's not supposed to go towards the fence. And there's a group of black women standing there and they catch the ball and they throw it back. And they're like, whoa, when they throw it, you know, it's it's a good throw. And they're like, whoa. And they just give a nod like we're here to don't forget about us. Right.
Just Blane (30:35)
Fly by, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. I think there's one more moment where maybe that's the same one where in the tryout scene. Is that the tryout scene or another one? Because there's a black woman in that and she gets told it's a whites only league. But that's it. There's no follow-up. There's no critique. There's no reckoning. I mean, I get it. Penny Marshall was trying to make a commercial hit, not a comprehensive history lesson, but that omission matters to me.
Courtney Pearl (30:58)
So that one little scene.
Just Blane (31:26)
leaving that out kind of matters. It flattens the story a little bit and does what we've said in the past, you know, it erases some of those voices of women who are fighting the same fight, but weren't even allowed in that door. So yeah.
Courtney Pearl (31:38)
Yes.
No, they weren't.
Yeah, I mean, this is, you know, when I when I started playing this for my kids, it just so happened my kids are learning about Jackie Robinson at school. And so we're talking about like, you know, the first introduction to desegregating baseball and ⁓ allowing white people, black people and people of color to play together. That conversation is definitely a part of that, ⁓ even more so than just.
Just Blane (31:51)
Yeah.
Courtney Pearl (32:10)
having a league that was for women.
Just Blane (32:12)
Jackie Robinson, number 42. That's why you don't see people wear their number 42 out there. It's retired because he broke down the barriers and he was a hell of a player. People don't even talk about it. Yeah, yeah. But they did address this situation in the Amazon series in 2022 when they did a league of their own. We won't go into that right now because we're just talking about the 1992 movie, but they did.
Courtney Pearl (32:24)
held his own, right? Yep.
Just Blane (32:41)
bring it back to that. But this movie to me is gonna stand the test of time. There's so many moments in there, even if baseball goes away forever at some point, it's America's pastime. I don't think it will unless we lose America. And who knows on that at the moment. But yeah, let that simmer for a second, right? But.
Courtney Pearl (33:04)
I'm like, mm.
Just Blane (33:05)
If baseball goes away, this movie still got the themes of life that you need, that you gotta take. You gotta get some of these things and take them. And Gina Davis, let's get, before we get to her, I wanna get your final thoughts on A League of Their Own.
Courtney Pearl (33:21)
Yeah,
I always like to pick a scene that just kind of like if in my opinion, what is the scene that shows what we're trying to relay in this movie? Like what is it that we're showing? And I'm to pick a scene that is not as widely known. People are not going to think of a League of their own and think of this scene. I want you to think about the scene when Doris is talking to a group of players. think Betty Spaghetti is sitting next to her.
And they're kind of just on the tour bus. It's like nighttime, they're traveling between games. They're just chatting. Dorothy, Rosie O'Donnell has a picture of her boyfriend, Charlie. And they're like, is this your boyfriend? And she's like, yeah, he's stupid. He treats me bad. ⁓ You know, whatever. And they're like, well, then why? And she's like, why? I just never thought I deserved anything better.
And in that moment, she realizes, well, wait a minute, I'm out here playing professional baseball. I'm pretty freaking awesome. I do deserve better than someone who just treats me bad. I'm not gonna go home and marry a guy just because he's there and just because he's my only option or I thought he was my only option. I mean, you see it play out in her head, the subtext of this. And she's like, yeah, I guess I just, you know, before this, I never thought I deserved better than this.
Just Blane (34:17)
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Courtney Pearl (34:46)
And then she rips up the picture of Charlie and she throws it out the window and says, goodbye, Charlie. And I want to highlight that scene because when we empower women to be able to go into spaces like baseball or the professional world or whatever it is, and I know the fight in this country is very much like put women back in their place in the kitchen, raising kids and whatever. What actually happens? The effect of that is what do we
We control women like that. What message are we giving them that they only deserve? What man will have them? A man who potentially will treat them bad, who's stupid, stupid and treats me stupid, ugly and treats me bad, I think is what she says. But I think that really, really is something to look at is like she got an opportunity to see herself as powerful, as capable, as smart. And then
Charlie don't look so good no more, right? She's like, maybe I don't need this guy. Maybe I don't need this guy for that. So that's my takeaway on the league of their own.
Just Blane (35:55)
Very powerful. I love it. I love Whistful Wednesdays. People love this. The freqs out there are loving this. We did Alien last week. People love that one. That's one of our most watched. I think this one might pass that for the freqs. I think they're gonna enjoy this. And what we're gonna do now is play an interview, an exclusive interview, never before seen interview with Gina Davis from FanX right? And let me set this thing up. This was FanX.
2024 and the way I've, we've talked about this before and the way we get access to these superstars and these celebrities and these people who are world known, famous, famous, the most famous is through Promise To Live. And that's a suicide prevention, suicide awareness organization. We've been working with them for a couple of years. Ride The Wave Media has been with them, partnered with them and
Courtney Pearl (36:49)
Okay.
Just Blane (36:52)
We go to these events and we tell them why we're there. So I want people to know that when we ask questions about suicide to these celebrities, it's not just boom, we drop this bomb on them. No, no, no, no, no. They know what they're gonna talk to us for. And they are very willing to give messages of hope to people who need it. 988, that's the number you can call if you have any of these.
Courtney Pearl (37:15)
Yeah.
Just Blane (37:21)
feelings, thoughts. We're not professionals called the professionals. This interview, I got to tell you though, because I was working with another co-host, not Coco, it was Becks Neilson who is one of the most genuine and authentic real estate agents. And I know some of that right there sounds contradictory, but I promise you she is.
Courtney Pearl (37:23)
Yep.
Yeah, Becks!
She's the best. She is.
Just Blane (37:46)
It's like saying an
honest lawyer or something, you know, but she is, she's a genuine, authentic real estate. She sold me my house and she lives one straight up from me. We're in the same neighborhood. We started a podcast together. We were doing radio daybreak together. The next thing you know, she goes from never having a microphone in her face to doing this podcast with me and.
Courtney Pearl (37:52)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Just Blane (38:11)
being in front of a bunch of celebrities. We went to do a red carpet, same one me and Coco have done. Same organization, Promise to Live. So we're, yeah, OG, she's OG. So we were at FanX 2024, and this is her first time being around any of these big names. at my stage in my career, it's no big deal. I'm like, all right, let's go talk to Billy Boyd and let's go hit my buddy Logic over here, the rapper, and then,
Courtney Pearl (38:13)
She's the OG.
Just Blane (38:40)
Let's go see Peter Billingsley from a Christmas store. You know, I'm like, no big deal. So fast forward and Gina Davis agrees to talk to us. Well, I'm nowhere to be found because I'm chatting it up with Jonathan Frakes from Star Trek, right? And Becks is like, so what do I do? What do I do? I'm like, well, you can handle it. You can talk to Gina Davis by yourself. So she gets thrown on the spot and being the pure professional she is.
rocked it. And we're going to play that interview, but I got to set Becks up because yeah, wonderful, incredible real estate agent. And just, like I said, you know her, say a couple of nice words about her cause she's going to see this. So.
Courtney Pearl (39:11)
Mm-hmm.
She's all about community. That's my favorite thing about Becks is she is in the community interviewing, talking to people. She wants to know what businesses and different people are doing in the community, people who volunteer. That's what she's all about.
Just Blane (39:40)
all about. So let's go ahead and play this interview exclusive with Gina Davis.
favorite theme meeting your fans? I just started doing these this year. As soon as they're ended, I don't want to convince you. You'll see how much fun it is. And it's so much fun. It's really great. Everybody's so nice and excited. It's a big laugh.
Courtney Pearl (39:55)
you you
Just Blane (40:15)
time. Have you been to Salt Lake City much? Yes, I have. Yeah. Have you done a lot of filming here? ⁓ Well, we
shot a lot of them in Louise. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to ask you about that. So what was kind of one of your favorite, favorite things about the Thelma and Louise or, know, maybe something your fans don't know about the behind the scenes shooting with that role? That's interesting.
mean, was such gorgeous, all that gorgeous scenery in the movie. were just driving around. It was just beautiful. It was amazing. And we recreated the Grand Canyon here, know. Yeah. Specifically the Grand Canyon. there's, I don't know what happened to the, we sent, I think we might have sent three cars off the cliff. Oh. With.
in the close. Just going over that cliff. Just going over the cliff. Wow. It was weird when we were getting ready in the mornings. There'd be these models of us sitting around and they're putting makeup on.
Courtney Pearl (41:13)
⁓
Just Blane (41:27)
So were you privy to watching that go over the cliff? you there? yeah, I was there. I wanted to see what that was like. And the first one that went off, the cliff, they designed this whole rig.
Courtney Pearl (41:33)
You
Just Blane (41:49)
You're like, let's keep that straight because that's such an iconic scene to that movie, right? With that car.
We are also here with Promise to Live. We know you do a lot of advocacy work, especially gender equality in your industry. So I'd like you to speak just a little bit to that and then let's have you answer that actually for us first. Yeah. it well, partly it started.
and seeing the reaction to the movie and it made me realize in a very positive
women get to come out of a movie feeling inspired by the female characters. So it became really paramount in my mind. So then when had a daughter and I started watching kids programming with her, I was like, wait a minute. Where are they? They're they've got be from little, kids. It wasn't equal characters. So that definitely started up a little bit.
gender parity on screen, particularly in what's made for little kids, because we judge our values.
Mm. ⁓
Courtney Pearl (43:21)
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Just Blane (43:38)
I I'm so blessed, obviously. But it's hard not to know when your next job is going to go on or what's going to happen. So that's, like I said, I couldn't possibly complain about how everything's going.
So I would assume there's a lot of high and lows, rejection of roles, things like that. So any messages of hope for fans who may be going through some similar high and lows and some struggles currently in their lives.
always feel like my sort of philosophy of work still is that things will always work out. And sometimes it's hard to that in mind, but that eventually things will work out. And I find keeping a positive attitude about that as much as you can. Certainly some people believe that you can draw to you.
Thank you for that.
Maybe you froze. You still there?
Courtney Pearl (45:05)
Yeah.
Just Blane (45:07)
Beautiful, beautiful Gina Davis. You saw Dottie behind her in the background. I love that.
Courtney Pearl (45:10)
She's amazing.
Yeah,
perfect. Perfect for our topic today.
Just Blane (45:19)
Becks didn't know two years ago that we were going to be talking about a league of their own today. So she was asking about Thelma and Louise, but that one hits hard too.
Courtney Pearl (45:28)
Yeah, and I just love that Geena Davis is ⁓ such an advocate for the gender equality and that's kind of her platform. And I think that's perfect because, I mean, if nothing else, that's what I get from a league of their own.
Just Blane (45:41)
Yeah,
yeah, absolutely. And once again, Promise2Live dot org. Go make the promise right now. Make the Promise2Live It's important. Mental health is important. And there'll be people out there in the comments seeing this and be like, ⁓ he's a snowflake or whatever they call him. No, no, no, no, no. Get it. Get that macho attitude out of here. Like we got to take care of one another and be able to say that we're not OK.
Courtney Pearl (46:10)
Yeah, well, I love that the people who usually say something about being a snowflake are usually the people who are going to flat out destroy a television over a game that they're watching or something like that. If you don't have control of your emotions, your emotions have control over you. So I don't think there's anything snowflake about that.
Just Blane (46:27)
I'm honest.
You see my LA Dodger hat. I might destroy a TV tomorrow if they lose the opening day. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But you're absolutely correct. Once again, go to Promise2Live.org. That's going to be it. That's a heavy way to end it right here. But this is real life. We like to, like Gina Davis said it, reflect, be a mirror. And that's what we're trying to do here with parallel frequencies. I'm just playing.
Courtney Pearl (46:53)
Yeah.
Just Blane (46:57)
That's Coco, you're the freqs, we love you guys, and we'll see you on the other side.
Courtney Pearl (47:02)
See ya.