Jesse Plemons is Hollywood's Most Dangerous Actor | Bugonia Movie Review

Welcome to Freqy Friday on Parallel Frequencies. Blane and Coco are back at Land of a Thousand Hills coffee shop to tackle a week of tech issues and deep-seated conspiracies. We start by honoring the "Mutant Family" as we discuss Joe Bob Briggs' status on Shudder and the importance of physical media in an age of digital erasure.
The heart of the episode is a visceral deconstruction of Bugonia. We explore Jesse Plemons’ terrifyingly quiet intensity, Emma Stone’s fearless commitment (including that shaved head), and the neurodivergent brilliance of newcomer Aiden Delvis. But it’s not just a movie review—it’s a philosophical debate. Coco discusses the real-world disappearance of bees in Utah and how it mirrors the film’s themes of environmental collapse. Is the extinction of humanity a tragedy, or is it a "service" to the Earth?
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It is parallel frequencies. I am just playing.
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This is Coco. You are the freaks, and we are
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at our favorite coffee shop once again. I know.
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How lucky are we that we had tech issues and
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we get to be here every day of the week? Yeah,
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right? We love Amber. We love Land of a Thousand
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Hills. Thank you for letting us be here. Got
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my breakfast. Oh, yeah. What is this breakfast
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you got here? What is it? I got my chili crunch
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toast. Hold on. Look out. I've been... Look at
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the presentation of this bad boy. This is beautiful.
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I almost slid it right off. Did you see that?
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I almost slid your breakfast right off into the
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floor. That's what I've been munching on while
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I've been waiting today. The tech issues have
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really been out of control, but this is a plus
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from having the tech issues. And today... I don't
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mind. It's Freaky Friday. It's only Friday. We're
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at the end of the week already. And you know
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what we do on Freaky Friday? We look at comments
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from the freaks. And then they are coming in.
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I still can't believe people watch this. You
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guys are watching us. I cannot believe you watch
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this. What is wrong with you? Why are you doing
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that? I see the numbers going up. I see the comments
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coming in. I'm flabbergasted. But let's get into
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some of these comments right here. And here's
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one from a while back on a clip that we put out
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about Joe Bob's retirement. And I said, shutter
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is going to go down. and this comment from at
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Jason Butler says, I agree with you 100%. That's
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the only thing you can do about this whole situation.
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You can agree and that's it. Joe Bob fans. Joe
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Bob did not leave. It did come out. He did not
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leave on his own accord. There was some other
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stuff going on there, but yeah, I totally 100
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% agree. We had another comment about Joe Bob
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too, and I'll get to that one, but we had someone
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on Alien. Remember when we did Alien? Talking
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about Ripley, she was at Ariba. Says she was
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good because she was believable, she was vulnerable,
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and she was scared. But she still succeeded.
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Yeah, because that's pretty realistic. I mean,
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we'd be terrified in this situation. I mean,
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would you not? But our will to live, right? What,
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it outweighs? Outweighs how scared you could
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be. Maybe. I think so. I think so. That really
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makes me question myself, what it takes to survive
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or what I'd be like. I'm really scared. I'm going
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to let myself just... Yeah. And here's some comments
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for you, Coco. And it's at Desman5079. And they're
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talking about your show. I don't remember what
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the show is called. Is it Alone? Remember when
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we talked about Alone? He says, I was rooting
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for Timber all the way. Me too. But there was
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absolutely no way he was going to outlast William.
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Great season. Yeah, that was a that they were
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neck -and -neck. I mean, but Timber had such
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a personality that I think I Don't know made
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you want to root for him a little more just because
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you feel you felt like you got to know him so
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much better Yeah, maybe yeah, they were thinking
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about that. They were all solid guys I was I
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was really proud of everybody on that show mostly
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because I know I couldn't have survived myself,
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but you know What what I want to bring back about
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that show what we talked about was that it's
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not just your skills and your Fortitude and your
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endurance and your physical health. Those are
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all components. They're important But almost
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everybody going into it has those it's the It's
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the emotional intelligence that I think gets
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them to the end Yeah, I mean you're trying to
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survive is what it is, right? What are they doing?
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Were they alone out on an island? What is this?
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Yeah, they drop them off on completely different
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places. They're absolutely alone. They don't
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even have a camera crew. They have med checks
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so that the only time they see another person
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is when the med checks come and just like make
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sure that they're alive. Make sure that they're
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not, you know, check their pulse, starving themselves
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out. But yeah, so part of the challenge of staying
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out there as long as you can, and they know going
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into it, they may have to stay out there for
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three months, like. It's last one standing, so
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they have no idea until someone comes to get
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them and say, hey, you're it. You're the last
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one. Good job. You won. They are not going to
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know. What if they win? They get money? $250
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,000, I think, is the prize money on that. That's
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worth going out there in the middle of nowhere
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for. I'd do that. And a lot of them are like,
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I really can use this money for whatever reason.
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They all have their reasons. Really, really good
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reasons. I wonder if we could do a loan. Utah
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version. I bet we could probably get a group
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of people, put them out in the woods. Yeah. I'd
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join up on that. It would be easier here than
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the places that they put them. I'm guessing.
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Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. They got to put them,
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they got to get them away from them. They put
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them in like the Arctic circle. I could do, no,
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that's not there. I could do cold. I couldn't
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do the hot. I could do the cold as long as I
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had enough to keep me warm, which I figured that
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out. Here we go. Do you remember when we talked
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about digital media versus physical media? Yes.
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I know the freaks do because they went in on
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the comments. And this comment from at Chef Sam
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says, I still buy a DVD if I want to watch a
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movie. Yep. And left it at that. And I get that.
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So he only, I'm assuming Chef Sam is a guy, he
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only wants. to watch a movie if it is a physical
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copy. And I do not blame him one bit. I get that.
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I had this conversation last night. This conversation
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came up with me and my wife, Lindsay, after me
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and you ran across what we thought was gonna
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be an innocent movie for us to do, toys. Yep.
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And we could not find the damn movie anywhere.
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Wednesday show, yep. And Lindsay, we start going
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down this rabbit hole of, she's like, well, what
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are they hiding? What's in this movie that we...
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Can't see that's a good question and It got me
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thinking even more about the physical first digital
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media and you've got to keep your physical copies
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of me I have friends that are canceling all of
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their streaming services and they move close
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enough to a large library a County library that
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has a pretty big DVD collection So they're like
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any time we want to go see something. We just
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go right we go get it at the library and watch
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it I love it. That's where they're at and I'm
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like I don't hate that Because we can that's
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pretty we talked about it We should do a whole
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episode on the Mandela effect because I do love
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it I do believe that there are some Mandela effects
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out there, but like I said before Some of that
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is not Mandela effect and it is the corporations
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taking out stuff We saw a comment last time that
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mentioned Darryl Hannah's butt getting covered
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up by Disney in splash. Yeah, are you serious?
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I still believe that's the biggest crime against
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humanity that there's ever been because you should
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never cover up a butt that beautiful Interesting
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because zero Hannah was mentioned in an episode.
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I was watching a rerun of friends Which was like
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why her name mentioned right after we talked
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about her? Yes, that's like universal coincidences
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that are Just kind of like happens. I guess it
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happened. Yeah. Yes a head scratcher a chin scratcher.
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Yeah One more comment here and it's about Joe
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Bob And it came from at jughead 82. I watched
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the show and it's so messed up I have been a
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fan of John Bloom aka Joe Bob Briggs since the
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monster vision days on TNT. I feel you. The news
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that Shudder is ending the show off. They will
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have four episodes coming this year with April
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24th being the first special so let's not forget
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Joe Bob is still on Shudder a couple times. Joe
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Bob is a legend and I am a proud mutant at the
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drive -in and it will never die. I'm right there
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with you. We are. Members of the mutant family
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maybe by extension I'm definitely a member but
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I totally agree with Jughead and I don't think
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I'd ever say I would agree with Jughead But I
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love when we get names like that too. I love
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those usernames Yeah, but I think that that's
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gonna do it for Freaky Friday. We love the comments
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coming in We can't get to them all This is coming.
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This is our way. This is our way to get to them
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Want to hear more. I want to hear what you guys
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think about these movies. We're talking about
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in today's movie. Holy cat Oh my gosh, because
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it's feature Friday as well and I don't know
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why I put off watching this movie and I say that
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all the time. I'm like it I think I figured it
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out so many hours in a day And that's why I figured
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it out that I can't watch everything when it
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comes out because I'm I'm already loaded man
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There's so much stuff out there coming out. You're
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getting almost content overload Yeah. I like
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to smell flowers. I like to take hikes. I like
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to go work out. I like to see my kids once in
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a while. So I can't be in front of the TV watching
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things 24 hours straight. Yes. So we'll get to
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what we get to, I think. And I think what we're
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doing also here at Parallel Frequencies is we're
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curating stuff for you to watch so that you have
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time when you do get that time to watch and sit
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down, go watch one of these movies like today's
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from Peacock. Don't miss this one. Oh my God.
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Right. I mean, the cast alone, you got Emma Stone,
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Jesse Plymouth. I love both of them. And the
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director, Yorgos, we did it. We did the favorite,
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Yorgos. Yes. He directed this. Definitely go
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check out when we picked that movie apart. That
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was incredible. But the same like real vibe,
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the real almost uncomfortableness and reality
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to it. I mean, Nothing is airbrushed out. Everything
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is like, if there's a blemish or a realistic
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or sweat on their face, it's going to be shown
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in this style the way that he does. Yeah. And
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you see this and you look at it and you see all
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the names attached and you see the trailer maybe
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and you look at the cinematography in the trailer
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and you think, all right, this movie is either
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going to win awards or ruin dinner conversations
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for years, basically, because That's the energy
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this movie has given off. And you never really
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know until the very end. You don't know what's
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going on. You don't know who to believe. You
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don't know if this guy's crazy. You don't know
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if she's an alien. There's all these questions.
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And you're sitting there as a viewer just as
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confused the entire time. So if you don't like
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those kinds of movies, not for you. But if you
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like the ones that give you that... Psychological,
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whatever, that. Constantly questioning. Constantly
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questioning what's going on. You gotta check
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this thing out. So many different layers to it,
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it almost felt like as I was watching, or as
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I was, you guys know, I like to sit with me and
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my husband, we'll sit and watch a movie, and
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I have my notebook and I'm writing things furiously
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down while I'm watching, every thought and every,
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this one almost needed columns, because there
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was so many layers of different things happening
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at once. that it was like, well, this is happening
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right here. But then at the same time, this other
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thing is happening underneath the first thing
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that's happening. And then aside from all that,
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there's also this whole other thing happening.
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You don't know. I can't even compartmentalize
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all of it. When you put the genre to this movie,
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you don't know what kind you're watching. You
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don't know if it's an alien invasion. You don't
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know if it's a drama. You don't know if it's
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a dark comedy. Yeah. Satire, you could throw
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all these in there. And what I'm going to tell
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you is it's a mix of all of them. Yeah. Perfectly
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blended. If you haven't seen this movie. This
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is these are spoilers. We are spoiling this So
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if you haven't watched it you need to pause right
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now and then come back to us Freaks come back
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come back to us. Okay, because it's worth watching
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to hear this conversation that we're talking
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about first off Jesse Plymouth Oh, yeah for a
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long time this guy was called fat Damon remember
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that yeah Now, I think he has, I thought he had
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surpassed the Fat Damon days when people were
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even calling him Fat Damon. That was already
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kind of disrespectful. I think, and this is gonna
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be controversial, he is a better actor than Matt
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Damon. For sure. I think Jesse Plymouth is low
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key one of the most dangerous actors working
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right now. He's not loud, he's not flashy, just
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unsettling in a way that creeps up on you. Like
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he doesn't chew up scenery, he's absorbing it.
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when he's in it. And then you've got Emma Stone
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quietly evolved from charismatic star into I
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will dismantle your expectations and smile while
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doing it. She shaved her head in this movie.
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For real. Commitment to this role, to everything.
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I mean, we always kind of act like that's such
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a pivotal thing, but really the level of commitment
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you have to do. Natalie Portman did it, Peter
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Vendetta. You know, we were like, no, they really
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actually... Shave their hair and it is kind of
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a big deal guys. I love my hair If I was told
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that for a role I was gonna have to shave my
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head or that I had the choice to wear wig or
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to shave my head That's a big yeah, probably
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have to go with wig. I have to go That's a big
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commitment for the role. She's in this phase
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now Emma Stone where every role feels like a
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dare Oh, yeah, and this was one of them I mean
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she shaved her hair and then you've got that
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and you've got a mix of Jesse Plymouth and that's
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not just Casting that's chemistry with consequences
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And you see it on film it is high tension it
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is there's a kidnapping yeah and You're you're
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there for every step. They don't really cut away
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from the uncomfortable moments. It's it's there
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for a second so do you know who he reminds me
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of and I'm just now coming up with a sock so
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I Can't remember his name after the passed away
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was in Hunger Games and... Oh, Philip Seymour.
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Philip Seymour Hoffman, is that him? Yes. He
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kind of reminds me of a younger him. A younger
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version. In that he kind of looks like him, but
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also like the level of... I don't know, the depth
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that he has. Layers. Layers. And it's commitment
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to the art is what I think Jesse Plemons is.
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And you also got Aiden Delves, who played Don.
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And you gotta love this character. Don. Yorgos.
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Cast Aiden Delvis because he wanted a neurodivergent
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actor who was non -professional and had never
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been on a movie before. And you felt that when
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you watched his performance. Fantastic. He blew
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expectations out of the water if there were any,
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but you felt for him. You felt the emotion. Suicide.
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I'm still not over it. That suicide had me tearing
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up, man. That was hard. That was a hard scene
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and and you felt her reaction to that she had
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genuine empathy. Oh, yeah when he says Will you
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take me with you? We promise that I can go with
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you. I don't want to be here. Oh It's an incredible
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I felt it performance by everybody on this sit.
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Let's zoom out for a second. All right This is
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a reimagining of a South Korean film called Save
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the Green Planet, which you've never seen. Maybe
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some of the freaks have. Just know this is how
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it is. It starts weird, then gets weirder, then
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suddenly you're questioning reality and your
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own moral compass. So now we've got the DNA for
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begonia, and it's filtered through a western
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lens, of course, but it's... It's really just
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this Dirty feel like we're not getting a clean
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ride and it's a psychological roller coaster
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and that's what the movie that it came from was
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as well and Legonia really does do that from
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beginning to end It keeps you doing this man,
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and it's not you never really know what's gonna
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happen You never know who's telling the truth
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what the conspiracies are and that's what it
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is It's like the premise alone with conspiracies
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delusion versus truth. Yeah Yeah, the isolation
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and the themes of isolation, you know, being
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that he's on this farm, but also with access
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to all this conspiracy on the internet and rabbit
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hole. And they kind of talk about the psychology
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of that, which in our day and age, we have to
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be really careful of that internet conspiracy
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and AI psychosis that they have not figured out
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the answer to. I mean, they're they're letting
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people know, you know, for example. AI will agree
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with you in pretty much any situation. Like,
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it might feel good to hear it, it might feel
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validating, but it can lead to a really dangerous
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way of thinking, which is that everything I say
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to AI and every question I ask, I'm being reaffirmed
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back to me that what I'm saying is correct. And
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they haven't solved the problem, guys. So just
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FYI, no one has figured out how to keep that
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from happening. We may not, we may not. You see
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that conversation between Michelle and, uh, just
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blanked. Teddy. Teddy, good. Got my brain today.
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Anyway, yeah, Michelle and Teddy talking about,
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she's like, you know, is it possible that you've
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just kind of gotten into this rabbit hole of
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conspiracy and you can't get yourself out? And
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he's like, no, I've researched that too. Yeah.
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I know all about it. I'm not making this up.
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I mean, there's a whole element of that that's
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like, but - is just caught up in that. Yeah,
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but then again, it's that delusion versus truth.
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Is Teddy really insane or is he the only one
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that's seen clearly? At least partially. And
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you don't know. Come to some conclusions. But
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how many times have you felt like that? You're
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tuning into something nobody else hears. That's
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the frequency we're here at at parallel frequencies.
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But it happens all the time. Yeah. Well, definitely
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when my husband loves to watch things that are
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like, you know, aliens build the pyramids kind
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of stuff. And honestly, I'm not one of those
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who's walking in going, oh, this is bull crap.
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This is such, you know, blah, blah, blah. I'm
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not one of those, but I'm also not one of those
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going in there being like, oh, absolutely. Let's
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dig into this. Every theory and every conspiracy
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and everything I hear on these shows is truth.
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I'm more like, yeah. make sense yeah that's yeah
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potentially that's true um aliens were always
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here they were always among us yeah i mean i'm
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kind of like that doesn't surprise me that wouldn't
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surprise me a bit i mean i would be keeping tabs
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on our crazy asses too if i had the ability you
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know like yeah i mean it's back in mythology
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in situations of magic and the fey and uh you
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know um ancient civilizations where certain Species
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of beings were the gods of that time period and
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then you kind of go into the whole what if those
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were Otherworldly beings that were here before
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us that created humanity all these ideas to me
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are like Yeah, that makes sense. I'm not gonna
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you know Sit here and be like, whoa that blew
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my mind. I'm gonna be like, yeah Yeah, probably.
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Yeah, and I think that's what would happen for
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the they call it the age of disclosure or whatever
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I think that's how we most of us would probably
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react like yeah okay okay like it's the worst
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kept secret there is that there's aliens there's
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something else out there there is yep there's
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something culturally interesting happening with
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begonia and you're getting this we've talked
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about this before how you're getting dumbed down
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scripts because people are doing this they're
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on their phones for the whole movie so they gotta
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be reminded what's going on look Not all audiences
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are craving stories to be spoon -fed to you.
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Yeah. A lot of us were done with the predictable
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arcs and safe endings. We want the tension. We
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want to think, I don't know where this is going,
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but I need to stay with it. And that's what Begonia
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is built on. The whole time, you want to stay
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with it because you don't know. And I love the
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movies that we don't. We don't know where they're
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going. You don't always have to know where you're
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going. Yeah, there's little things along the
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way that make you switch your Prediction of what's
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gonna happen next where you're like, oh wait
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a minute and then did you do like I did and just
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quit And then I gave up and then I was like I'm
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just gonna watch I'm just gonna observe this
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movie, but that's what I did I was doing I was
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doing all the things that you normally do is
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this Is he crazy? Is she an alien? You do that
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until you don't. You will stop doing that in
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this movie. And that's a different type of energy.
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I'm going to just see how this plays out. My
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first clue, I don't know if you had a moment
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somewhere along the line where you're like, wait
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a minute. Something more is happening here that's
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not typical. There wouldn't be a typical situation.
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For me was Michelle's reaction to being kidnapped.
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Now, she could just be a really, really involved
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human being Being a CEO being a really empowered
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woman. She knows who she is. She knows what she's
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about She has a lot of confidence. So when she's
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kidnapped to be like I'm gonna gentle parent
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my way. Yeah That to me was my first clue that
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like this is not This is not the way I would
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imagine a woman being kidnapped and to be Chained
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to a bed in a basement to start reacting and
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it's funny cuz she was doing all the corporate
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talk in there, too And it was almost like she
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was gentle parenting, but also trying to control
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a boardroom at the same time with the verbiage
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that she was using. All these big words and stuff.
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But yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Handling herself under
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stress in that way is not typical. Even if somebody
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were, I don't know, highly trained in meditative
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powers. Whatever it is. You know, able to stay
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in that kind of calm state during duress. She
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handles it in such a way that starts to make
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you question, well, wait a minute, is this, something
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more is going on here. She has some other worldly
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qualities about her. And she does. Turns out
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she does. She does. I mean, she does, but this
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is not a popcorn energy type of movie. It's a
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sit with it to the credits roll and then stare
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at the ceiling and think about what you just
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saw. Oh, for sure. I'm going to have to watch
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this movie again. I really do. But it is one
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of these ones that's going to split the audience
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down the middle. Half of them are going to be
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saying, genius, and the other half, what the
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hell did I just watch? Yeah. And again, we talked
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about the movie making experience for what movies,
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how movies adapt through the generations. Because
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we talked about Toys on Wednesday, and we were
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talking about how that movie would hold up better
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nowadays than it did when it came out, probably.
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But these type of movies, like Poor Things and
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The Favorite, these movies that he's making.
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This is a new generation type of movie. It's
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one that I think, if you're used to movies being
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a certain way and they're really just for entertainment
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and you're like, I just want it to be exciting
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and fun and fast moving and whatever, then you're
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gonna be like, what did I just watch? This made
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me feel icky and I don't wanna see it again.
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While the rest of the, those of us craving art,
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craving thought. craving philosophy, craving
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deep discussion, are gonna be like, ooh, this
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was juicy stuff, and I really like to sink my
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teeth into this kind of stuff. And can we also
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appreciate how both Jesse Plymouth and Emma Stone
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have mastered the art of uncomfortable silence?
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They can say more in a look or a stare than most
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actors do in a 10 -minute -long monologue. And
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that's dangerous in a film like this, real dangerous.
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Yeah. Because it's built off of the dialogue.
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And at one point, I think he even says, don't
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use that word, dialogue. We're just talking.
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I love that. But I love how he snaps back at
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her. And kind of, that's where my instincts kicked
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in, was the way he snapped back at her. And you
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were never like, oh, that, sure, that. Sure,
00:24:51.660 --> 00:24:54.079
he seems crazy, but that didn't sound crazy at
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all. What were you saying? Like yeah, it's so
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there's some believability He's definitely seeing
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some things and and not unlike things that we
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in our world are fighting against I mean this
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whole element. Like I said, there's columns of
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things going on here. One of the elements of
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this movie is this whole Corporation pharmaceutical
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company money grab type of vibe where he's upset
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because his mother I mean she's she's ill she
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was telling him they sold me the sickness and
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then they sold me the cure and she's not wrong
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they're not wrong that side of the story is not
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wrong that's real stuff that people are dealing
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with in our health care system in this country
00:25:39.099 --> 00:25:42.079
anyway so to have this element of like he's fed
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up Whether she's an alien or not and I think
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at one point in the beginning when he's convincing
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Don that this is the right thing to do Don's
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like what if she's not an alien? Yeah, like this
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will be really fucked up if she's not an alien
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But he's like she's the CEO of this corporation
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that killed our family So even then even if it
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turns out she's not an alien. I think we're doing
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the right thing exactly So yeah, and and he's
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just looking at it as an eye for an eye at that
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point Yeah, he doesn't care what the other eye
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comes from, human or alien. It's whoever did
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this to his mother and to the people. And what's
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your final thoughts on Vagonia? Well, I want
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to talk about the bees. Talk about the bees.
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I want to talk about the bees for a second. And
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let me interject before you even do, because
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if you look at this film throughout it, the cinematography,
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there are hexagons, which are honeycombs, basically.
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There are hexagons throughout the movie. Is it
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not the theme, the central core theme that connects
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everything together? And I just have to say,
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before I watch this movie, a couple of, maybe
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a week ago, my dad comes in and he goes, you
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know what I noticed? There's no bees. No bees.
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He's like, all these flowers, all these trees
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outside of our house that have been blooming.
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That we see bloom around daybreak every year
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He's like usually they're full of bees and we've
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had a very unusual dry warm winter it's been
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the weirdest winter I've ever seen in Utah and
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He's like there's no bees. I'm not hearing buzzing.
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I'm not hearing and then I watch this movie So
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you can imagine how I'm freaking out a little
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bit Oh, this sounds really, really, really, really
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something we have to pay attention to. That's
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what your Facebook post was a couple days ago.
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You said, where are the bees? Now it makes sense.
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On the Pagans and Daybreak group, which I helped
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run on Facebook. If anyone remembers Facebook.
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Do you guys remember Facebook? It's there still.
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It's there still. Some of us still use it. But
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anyway, yeah, I was like, this is an interesting
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concept to think about. Because he thought, as
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a beekeeper, that was his, you know, on the farm.
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He's noticing some really big problems with the
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bees disappearing and dying off and he blames
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the aliens for it turns out They're the ones
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trying to save Save the earth from it because
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it's the humans and their influence on the world.
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I mean we know how much influence Humans have
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had more influence on geology than any other
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era of history in any other age so Here's what
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I have to say about this animism will save the
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world okay for thousands of years we have looked
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at the earth the animals and the resources on
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this planet as our as for us they're here for
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us okay we are the we colonize we commercialize
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we capitalize on the resources of this earth
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and the bees belong to us and the trees belong
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to us if we saw all of that and even inanimate
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objects like the minerals in the earth as as
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beings in coexistence with us we would not be
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ruining our planet and thus making it so we can't
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live here anymore and I said this when we talked
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about pluribus Because we talked about that hive
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mind and how you know that influenced the earth
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and I thought well Isn't it kind of an ego problem
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that we think we deserve to have individualism
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when it's ruining the planet? When the ending
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comes in this movie Mmm, okay. This is like the
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pivotal. This is it you guys The ending when
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she decides as Empress that this experiment of
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humans has gone wrong It's done. It didn't work.
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We tried We did our best. It's over. She pops
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the bubble. And then the montage starts of seeing
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every human being on the planet drop dead. Now,
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I think maybe if I was younger, I would have
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looked at that montage and been like, oh, how
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awful. How sad. Every human being, even the children,
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everyone is gone. Oh, that's just devastating.
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Now I'm like, service is right. Service is right,
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man. We couldn't take care of our planet. We
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couldn't do a better job. This is what happens.
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And if it makes sure the bees survive, then I
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guess we got to go. I'm right there with you.
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I believe. I didn't have the sadness. And I want
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to know about what the freaks thought. Yeah.
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I want to know. Like, did you watch that montage
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and go, oh no? Or were you like, yep? And the
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freaks out there are like, you got to remember,
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like, this is what we're doing here. This is
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what we do. We like to decode the movies. We
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like to feel them. We like to argue about them
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at 2 AM like they matter. Because they do. When
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I see your text messages in the middle of the
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night and I'm like, hey, what about this? That's
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what we do. That's what it's for. Here's what's
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next. Here's what's next. Yeah. Yeah. I got it.
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Before we get out of here, I'm going to go ahead
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and tease another movie that I just watched.
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I saw Undertone. Oh. And we're going to put that
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on the list. Yeah. And yeah. Be on the lookout
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for that one. Yeah. That one right there is coming
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up. This is Friday though. We're going into the
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weekend. What do you got going on this weekend?
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I don't even know. Nothing? That's about what
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mine looks like. There's nothing so far. I have
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to look at my calendar. That's why I live by
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my calendar. Because I'm like... I get that.
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Yeah, I get that. Well, we hope all the freaks
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out there have a happy weekend. There's no holidays
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or anything this weekend, don't you think? No.
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You know what? Let's just chill this weekend.
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Whatever you're doing, maybe just be like...
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Put a movie on. Let's put some movies on. The
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weather. Peacock. Magonia. Peacock. Go watch
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this. You're good. And take care of your planet,
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okay guys? Yeah. If I could say anything to the
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whole planet at once, if I could say anything,
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it'd be like, is money really the most important
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thing when our Earth is dying? Can we use our
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powers of innovation to solve some of these problems
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rather than how fast we can make AI do work for
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us? Right. And that's my soapbox. Yeah, I like
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it. You got on the soapbox hard here at the end.
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Coco was fired up going into the weekend. Yeah,
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I was cheering for the bees in that movie. Let's
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see how you feel Monday Are you gonna have this
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same type of energy Monday when we come back?
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I don't even know what we're talking about movie
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Monday. It's gonna be a surprise to the freaks
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today It's a surprise to us. I'll be surprised
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to you guys, but that's gonna do it for this
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episode of parallel frequencies I am just blame.
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This is Coco. You are the freaks land of a thousand
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hills. Thank you

























