again The F1 Movie: 220 MPH Cinema, Legacy, & The Secret History of Voodoo Dolls


Are you being told you’re past your prime before you’re even ready to quit? This week on Parallel Frequencies, Just Blane and Coco use the new Apple TV+ blockbuster F1 as a lens to explore legacy, relevance, and the quiet fear of becoming forgettable. Brad Pitt stars as Sonny Hayes, a veteran driver proving that experience beats raw youth every time—especially when you’re hitting turns at 220 MPH.
We also explore a surprising historical pivot: the true purpose of Voodoo dolls. Far from the Hollywood "hex" stereotype, Courtney Pearl reveals how these dolls served as vital healing records for those denied the right to read and write. From the roaring engines of Silverstone to the "Voodoo" of the deep south, this episode is a masterclass in seeing beneath the surface.
Whether you're a sports freak, a history buff, or just a fan of physical DVDs and Iggy Pop, there’s a seat for you at our table. Remember: People at the bottom compete; people at the top collaborate.
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It is Parallel Frequencies. I am Just Blaine.
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That's Coco. And you are the freaks out there.
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And let me tell you, we love the freaks. Am I
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right, Coco? Yeah, of course. And they came in
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strong and hot last night about our Iggy. As
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you can see me wearing the Iggy and the Stooges
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shirt right now. If you're watching this on YouTube.
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But they did. They came in and they were watching
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it and talking about the Coachella. And I'm telling
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you right now, I literally just got a text from
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my buddy, super producer Alex, Jim Rome's producer.
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For those of you out there who listen to sports,
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Jim Rome's nationally known, world known. But
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he even texted me like, hey, where's this nine
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inch noise set from Coachella? So it's weird
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to me that everybody's talking about Coachella
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because it's not always like this. I never know
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what's happening. Well, they pulled down the
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nine inch noise. Been moved to private. But if
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you want to see these performances, I'm telling
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you right now, you get another chance this weekend.
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Right there on Coachella's official YouTube channel.
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Go watch these performances. Incredible. We did
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centers yesterday. There's lots of good stuff
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going on. And we did centers on Movie Monday.
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And I love that movie. really cool video come
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up about, and I want to do a little bit more
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deep dive into it. Cause it sounded really interesting,
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but about the voodoo magic that Annie was doing
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in the sinners movie, you know, we kind of talked
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about her being a witch and having all of this
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knowledge and bringing that to the table when
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she was really the real hero of this movie, I
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think. Um, but I found it really fascinating
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that like what we consider voodoo dolls. That,
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you know, a lot of people think it's a doll that
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you make to look like a person and you stick
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pins in it where you want to harm them. And that's
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kind of the stereotype we've all heard about.
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In fact, it was a healing data record keeping
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strategy. So when a medicine woman or, you know,
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medicine man who had knowledge of healing and
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herbs and remedies. They would come to him or
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her and they would create a doll to look like
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the patient. And, you know, this was like during
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slavery times, they didn't know how to read and
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write. So in order to keep track of what they
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had treated, like they come in for a headache
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or something, they would stick a pin in the head.
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Make a doll look like them and then stick a pin
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in the head and then give them the remedy or
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treatment and then keep the doll on their shelf
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so that the next time they came in, they were
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like, oh, I noticed we treated you for a headache
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last time you were here. How is that going? Did
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it help? And it was just their record keeping
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strategies. I mean, it makes sense when you really
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think about it. That's how they kept track of
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who they treated, what they treated, what they
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gave them. I mean, this is just fascinating.
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So what happened after that? People took that
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and ran with it and said, it never stopped. My
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head never stopped hurting and only continued.
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And they saw the pin in the head. Yeah. I'm going
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to go down a rabbit hole here of voodoo dolls.
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And what we're actually doing with them. And
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it really unfair to people who were just doing
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healing work. Yeah. You know what? I got a doll
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right here that's in a box. I've been kind of
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waiting to open it. Lindsay always gets me these
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little knickknacks, right? These fun stuff. And
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here's a Terrifier, an Art the Clown, a random,
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you know, it's one of these random. Which one
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would we want to get out of this if we open this?
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I like the one that's dancing. I like this one
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here with the sunglasses. Yeah, the dancing.
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Oh, I like the dancing one too. I think we should
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open this right now since we're talking about
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dolls. All right, let's do it. Let me see. Let's
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see which one we get in here. But I love this
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kind of stuff, and she always gets me. I mean,
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half the stuff you ever see behind me is from
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her. All the game stuff, all the Funko Pops,
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maybe not the baseball cards. She's not too crazy
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about buying me baseball cards. But anything
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else, though, absolutely. So let's see which
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one we get in here. And I'm a sucker for the
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random stuff, like the not knowing what you're
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going to get, the mystery boxes. Oh, my gosh.
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It's all about the dopamine hit, baby. Oh, my
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gosh. And look how long this damn bag is. Now,
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let me reach down in here and see what we got.
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Oh, you're kidding me. Which one did I say I
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wanted? Sunglasses. Ow! I got him. Look at that.
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Look at him. Arthur Clem with his sunflower sunglasses.
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We're going to put him right back here with the
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labubu. I hope they don't get to fight, and that'd
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be wild. I love those kinds of things. When the
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lights turn off and you're asleep. Yeah. I saw
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that you just got a prize yesterday, too. You
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posted it on social media. It kind of blew up.
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Yeah. A brand new DVD. Bring it with me here.
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You're going to have to go check out Practically
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Magic podcast on Instagram. That's where I posted
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it. But I got my DVD of the movie Toys we talked
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about last week was for Wednesday. I can't wait
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to show my kids. You've got a physical copy of
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this movie now. You're going to have to bring
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it to the studio tomorrow because we want to
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see that on film and make sure we're not being
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Mandela'd or whatever it is or corporate erased.
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I got to see this. I mean, I know I saw you holding
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it. That could be AI generated, though. I don't
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know. Yeah. Maybe if I had just left it in its
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plastic, I could have saved it for years. Maybe
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it would be worth something. But I really want
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my kids to see it. So I opened it. Did you watch
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it with them? Did they watch toys? Not yet. No,
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man. We're going to save it for our movie from
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our childhood Sunday is our family tradition.
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I love that. We should start talking about that
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because we do the same thing in my house. We
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just recently watched Labyrinth. I mean, that's
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a family movie right there. That's a banger,
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too. That movie's still a banger. Today, we're
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not doing Tube Tuesday. But we're doing, what
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is it, Top Tier Tuesday? Top Tier Tuesday. It
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was going to be that or Trophy Tuesday. I wanted
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some award winners, award -nominated movies we
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can fit into our schedule here. And today's has
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got to be the one movie that was nominated that
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probably is the only movie that had your heart
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racing like it had a turbo button. And we're
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talking about... Apple TV Plus' F1, the movie,
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with Brad Pitt, directed by Joseph Kaczynski.
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But this movie is adrenaline, excitement, controlled
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chaos, is what F1 racing appears to be. And I
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got to tell you that I didn't know all of this
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stuff about F1 going in to watching this movie.
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I didn't know all these crazy, The technology
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behind the scenes that they're using and they're
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driving these cars at 220 miles an hour. Like,
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it's insane. It's intense. To me, the money that's
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invested into this sport, I mean, I don't know
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the comparison to other sports. And like I've
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said before on the podcast, I'm not much of a
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sports person. So you forgive me if I don't know
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all of the terminology and everything that goes
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into it and team names and goal versus touchdown.
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I don't really know. Racing is one of the things
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I probably do watch the most because I grew up
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in Indiana. Okay. Indianapolis. So what am I
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excited for at the end of May? Indy 500. Yeah.
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Have you been? I watch it every year. Have you
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been? I have been to the track. Okay. My parents
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have been to the race a few times when we lived
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there. Doesn't sound super fun. If you like being
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hot, crowds, everybody getting drunk, the caravans
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that all park in the center field that stay there
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for the race. It's kind of like having concerts
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and keggers and music festival all happening
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while this really loud race is going on around
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you. So, I mean, it can be intense from what
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I hear. I've always been a fan of racing movies,
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always since Days of Thunder with Tom Cruise.
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Oh, yeah. I even worked for NASCAR at one point.
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I've done a lot of stuff in my career. I worked
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the NASCAR races for a while. I watched it growing
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up, and I actually did go to some races. I've
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been to Talladega. Diehard 500. I'm talking about
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110 degrees. Loudest thing you could ever hear,
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and you leave there, and your lungs are filled
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with smoke. You've got tar up. You've got rubber
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up. Oh, man. It's a hell of an experience. It's
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fun. But these F1 races, man, I've watched a
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lot. It's a higher level, I think. I mean, no
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offense to NASCAR, but being an Indy 500 and
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an IndyCar fanatic in that realm, I'm kind of
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like, hmm. nascar it's okay oh we're about to
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start some controversy this is gonna be the most
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controversial segment from parallel frequencies
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ever when you just said that nascar does not
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live up to indycar yeah i know there's a lot
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of people that would disagree with that and that's
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okay i don't i don't actually mind being disagreed
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with i'm like I'm just more of an IndyCar person
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myself. Now, I was super excited for this F1
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movie when I heard about it because I know Apple
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and I know they're not going to half -ass anything
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and I know that Apple's going to use probably
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the top -of -the -line technology to make the
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movies happen. And I remember putting this movie
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on and I was in the bed or something watching
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it on a little TV. Five minutes in, I'm like,
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no, no, no, no, no. I hit stop, and I had to
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go out and watch it in the theater, in my little
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home theater, you know? And I had to have the
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surround sound. I had to have the big screen.
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I'm upset that I did not see this movie in an
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actual theater because I feel like it's one of
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these that actually brings the theater experience
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to you. Like, this is what theaters was made
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for. They were made for movies like this. But
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I don't think you get the same effect watching
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this thing at home. Just like you don't get the
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same effect watching an F1 race at home as in
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person. Oh, for sure. Yeah. What do you think
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from the just very beginning of the movie? I
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was so impressed. I mean, I know generally what
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goes into the teams they put together to race.
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The investment of the... the cars, everything
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that they're doing. But I don't know if I knew
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to this level, I need to have the meeting in
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these high tech. I don't know. It looked like
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a NASA control room and they're all got their
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headsets on. And I'm like, they put so much into
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this, the engineer, everybody is top level expert
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at what they do. So, I mean, You've got to hand
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it to the pit crew, everybody who's involved.
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I think the driver gets a lot of the, you know,
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the rock star status for it. But everybody on
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the team that works in these type of races deserves
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all the credit. And we see how much of a rock
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star these guys are. Joshua Pierce in the movie,
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played by Damson Idris. you see how all these
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drivers are. They are rock stars and highly recognized
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in that world. They're making tons of money,
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as they should. I mean, look what they're doing.
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You're one crash away from it, ending it, being
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done. Yeah. And that's... Yeah, it's pretty scary.
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You're living on the edge. And let's talk about
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the movie, though, because I mentioned Days of
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Thunder. and other racing movies but this is
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not just a racing movie let's not get it twisted
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because yeah it's more about relevance legacy
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ego and that quiet fear of becoming forgettable
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formula one it's not just speed you know they
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had politics involved there's money there was
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brands pretending to be people and We're watching
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this movie. We see these cars going 200 miles
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an hour and all that. But underneath it, we're
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watching people try not to crash their identity.
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Brad Pitt, playing Sonny Hayes, pulls up to the
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scene looking like a real -life Hollywood Benjamin
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Button, might I add. I think he's aging backwards
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in real life. I really do. But he's not some
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young prodigy. He's a veteran. The dude who's
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been around long enough to know every trick and
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every mistake. And I love how they put him in
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this movie as being somebody who's kind of been
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there and done that and won all these races.
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But he doesn't come in to F1 and just kick ass
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because that's unrealistic. There's no way that
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you could come off of these dirt tracks and go
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in there in an F1 race and just blow them out.
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No way. No way. But he gets it done. And I think
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he... Is one of these people that we see out
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in real world, too. And it's not just celebrities
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or athletes, but lots of people. And it's when
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the world's trying to tell you that you need
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to retire before you're ready. We're seeing it
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with LeBron James out there right now. Real life
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athlete, 41 years old. And people thought he
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should have retired a couple of years ago. And
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the guy's still putting up buckets. And I'm 42.
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I'll just say it. And I'm thinking, man, I was
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good to get out of bed this morning. And he's
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out here putting up a triple -double? Let's go.
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Don't try to tell people they're done before
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they know it. And I think that's a huge theme
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in this movie. What are you thinking, Coco? I
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think the themes of what it means to be on a
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team, too. I mean, you've got young. Joshua Pierce,
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you know, up and coming, trying to make his name
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in this business, trying to be like, it's my
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turn to make a name for myself to be, to create
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my legacy and then feel threatened by Sonny Hayes
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coming in and being like, I'm going to change
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up what we're doing. Our strategies are going
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to be different. And then you've got the strategies
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themselves that they're using. I mean, Sonny
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Hayes is a little bit of a daredevil. I mean,
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he's ready to like push the limits and say, uh,
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You know, I'm going to ignore some of these other
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maybe important elements of safety. I heard the
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phrase slow is smooth and smooth is fast. So,
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I mean, the strategy of like, do we really stop
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and make sure we pay attention to the particulars
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and make sure that those are all right and that
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we're really working together as a team? And
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yeah. And then your teammates being their safety
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is on your shoulders too. So he learns kind of
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a valuable lesson on what is it going to mean
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to work together on this? We're on the same team,
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but they're acting like rivals. Yeah. And they're
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acting like they're competing with each other.
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One, you know, wanting to make a name for himself
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and the other wanting to prove that he still
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has what it takes, that he's not irrelevant and
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too old for this. So they're like, got to figure
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this out and their lives are at stake as we find
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out i mean i love um sarah niles is in this bernadette
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um playing joshua's mother we remember her from
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ted lasso yes shout out ted lasso uh and she
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does this i think the scenes with her are my
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favorites i mean that's uh you know aside from
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the racing that's really exciting and obviously
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really fun to watch but i love the scenes where
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she is stepping forward to be like i'm a mother
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and this is my son And she has that conversation
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with Sonny Brad Pitt. And that brings up the
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real heart and emotion and what's going on beyond
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and underneath all of these kind of egoic things
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that are expensive but don't actually matter
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in the large scheme of life. And it brings that
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kind of part, that element to it, I guess. Let's
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talk about the cinematography, the visuals. You
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said it, like, sure, these races, they were fun
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to watch, but it's not because they're just showing
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racing. They put us in the cockpit here. The
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camera angles are so tight. The special effects
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were fantastic. They were, and the camera angles,
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they were so tight that you, I swear you could
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feel the G -force in your chest watching this.
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And like I said, I had to go put it in the theater.
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And listen to it in Dolby Atmos because the sound
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design, you can hear the engines roaring in the
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background. And it really gave the film its heartbeat.
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The sound design made this movie. I'll say that.
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It really did. And this is one of those movies
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that you watch and your body's reacting before
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your brain does. But that's what F1 really would
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be for us, for us average people, you know. we
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wouldn't be able to keep up with the turns and
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going 200 miles an hour. You know, we're watching
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this at home, holding our breath in every corner.
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And that's just a true testament to Apple for
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going the extra mile and going to the extremes
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to do this. They put Brad Pitt in real F1 cars,
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in real F1 races, without other people even knowing
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it. And that's crazy to me, too. He was running
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real laps at some at some points to figure this
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out. And that's wow. That's incredible. Yeah.
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I mean, actors in general having to put themselves
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through so many different things for roles just
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to be like, I got to learn to play the drums
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and I got to learn to play the drums well enough
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to make the audience believe I've been playing
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the drums my whole life. Or now I'm in an F1
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movie. I got to figure out how to Formula One
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race these cars and. You know what's wild about
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that is I'll tell you the reason for why it happens
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is when you're auditioning for roles and you're
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out there in Hollywood and you're going to audition
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after audition after audition, you are taught
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to never say, nope, I don't know how to do that.
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It doesn't matter what it is. Can you speak Russian?
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Yep, absolutely. Can you ride a motorcycle? Absolutely.
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Can you ride a horse? Yep. And it doesn't matter
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if you've never even. done any of these things
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you you never said you can't do it all gotta
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be able to do it all and then if you get cast
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in that role if you can you drive an f1 car absolutely
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let's go brad pitt never been in an f1 car you
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know yeah but he learned it but that's that's
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absolutely a uh just saying something uh about
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the actors like you said and let's not forget
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brad pitt could have really overshadowed everybody
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in this movie but you got harvey air barton playing
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ruben And I think he balances this out. You got
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Carrie Condon playing Kate McKenna. And that's
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a powerhouse right there, too. So he could have
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been the elephant doing laps around the track.
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But the balance of the other actors in the movie
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really helped bring the level of stardom down.
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And I don't mean that in a bad way. I just mean
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it didn't let him. chew up scenery and, and,
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and be this, this, this aura on the, on the,
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in the scene, you know, of course he did, but
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they held their own. He was able to fit the,
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fit his ego in the door as an actor and be able
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to be generous with the other actors and scenes
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and, um, and let them shine in their parts too.
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One of my favorite scenes. Again, this is aside
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from the racing, which was obviously really exciting
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to watch. But the scene where they're, are they
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playing poker? I think that's poker. See, this
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is how little I know about. But she becomes,
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you know. Kate, she becomes like this therapist
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or this emotional connection person. She's supposed
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to be the engineer. She's supposed to be working
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on the car. And she's like, I got to get these
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two to work together. If we don't have this team,
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we have nothing. It doesn't matter what we're
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trying to do here. These two have to figure this
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out. And she becomes the one who's like, I'm
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going to. raised to a higher emotional intelligence,
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used some EQ, and she figures out how to start
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asking the right questions and how to start getting
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them to bond while sitting at a table together.
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And I loved that scene so much. And Brad Pitt
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plays Sonny like a man who knows exactly who
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he is and doesn't need you to agree with him.
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And I think that this was probably an easy role
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for Brad Pitt to play because that's probably
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where he is. in real life at this point. It's
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like a calm arrogance because he earned it. It's
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not wild, not flashy, but dangerous in a quiet
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way. You ever notice how the loudest people are
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usually the ones not doing a damn thing? He's
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not really loud in this, and he's doing a lot
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behind the scenes. He's doing a lot on the track.
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He's not winning races. He's not the star, but
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he's making a lot happen when they finally do
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decide to become a team, and that's real life.
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That's kind of how it works. When you're working
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together, you will get further. I've said it
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before. People at the bottom compete and people
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at the top collaborate. And I truly believe that.
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When did you first hear me say that? Years ago?
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Probably the first time I met you at a networking
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meeting. We're in the community, people getting
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together who are all starting new projects. new
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businesses, new, you know, whatever we were trying
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to do. And that was the kind of community I wanted
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to be a part of is, you know, we're all trying
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to make something of ourselves. We all have a
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goal in mind. We all have something that, yeah,
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we'd like to maybe make money doing what we love
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to do instead of working for somebody else and
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making sure they make all of our money. We were,
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you know, all sitting there with the same values
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in mind. And we were like, I don't want to compete.
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If somebody else does the exact same work that
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I do, we're still different enough that there's
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enough for everybody. There's enough. If somebody
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else had another podcast network that they were
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starting to, there's enough for everybody. There's
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enough for everybody. And there's no reason to,
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um, to think that we have to best each other.
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You don't have to battle. You can come together
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and you can help one another help one another.
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And that's really what I could see this being
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on a whole grander level with this partnership
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between F1 and Apple. Because F1, as a sport,
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it's been trying to break into the American culture
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for a long time. NASCAR has been the dominant
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American racing. movie to me, it helped show
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more diversity, more accessibility, more storytelling.
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Like, come on, like what, this is really what's
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going on behind the scenes in F1. Like, I want
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to be a part of that, you know? And, and I think
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Apple did a really good job at making this movie
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show real inclusion or were they just better
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at marketing? You know, like which way? I think
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they did a great job of the inclusion, but there
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will be people that say, oh, this was just a
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marketing stunt. They put this movie out just
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to, you know, whatever. But I don't think so.
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I think we see it. I think we do get the easier,
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easier to access. We get to see more diversity,
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you know, and I love that. What do you think
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about that? Because I know you do watch racing.
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Are you going to watch F1 races on Apple now?
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Have you checked any out yet? I haven't, but
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that would be something that I would get into
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if I had the time. Sit down with my kids and
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as a family, this is what we're going to do together.
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We're going to get snacks and we're going to
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pick our drivers. That's what my kids love to
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do for the Indy 500 every year. We don't follow
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these drivers enough to know them really well,
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but we remember when they come back every year,
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we're like, oh, Scott Dixon, that's my guy. There
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you go. We got, what's his name? Power. Will
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Power. Yeah. I'll never remember that. Look at
00:26:01.789 --> 00:26:04.009
you. I'll never forget that. But yeah, we pick
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our drivers and when then we're really cheering
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for somebody for the whole race. And then you
00:26:08.089 --> 00:26:11.349
can see the disappointment when they crash or
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they're out of the race for some reason or they,
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you know, have an extra slow pit stop. We care
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and we're invested and we're involved. And we
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get more like that than we do with probably any
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other sport. I don't think we have a personal
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or emotional investment in anything else. I mean,
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we will watch sports, but we'll be like, I don't
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know. The ones with the blue uniforms look like
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they're fun today. I'll cheer for them. You know,
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that's kind of where my family's at. I know the
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freaks are going to come after me for not being
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a sports person, but that's just the way I'm
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at. That's just who I am. That's how it goes.
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That's how it goes. And some of the freaks aren't
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going to be sports people. And some of them are.
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And that's that's OK. I have sat down and watched
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some F1 on Apple. And I got to tell you, your
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kids, they they'd love it. Your kids would love
00:27:00.109 --> 00:27:05.990
it. It's fully interactive. iPhones, iPad, whatever
00:27:05.990 --> 00:27:09.460
you're looking, watching on TV. It's got. It'll
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show you where the drivers are, how fast they're
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going. You can watch split screens. It's got
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all of it going. You can watch any driver you
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want. So fun. They've got it even where you can
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watch who's in first place. And if first place
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changes, it'll change the camera view for you
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to who's in first at all the time, who's in second,
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who's in third. You can watch all these different
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angles. It's wild. Let me ask you before we get
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out of here. Let me ask you this. And this goes
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back to the movie and Brad Pitt and being this,
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you know, older guy. Do you think people deserve
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a second run at greatness? Or is there a point
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where you got to let that next generation take
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the wheel? What do you think? I think it absolutely
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depends on the person themselves and what they
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feel like they are ready to do. I mean, I think
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:05.079
that there's a lot of, you know, trading players.
00:28:06.779 --> 00:28:09.119
football or in things like that when it's like
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okay we've got to like put together our team
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hoping that it's going to eventually win um but
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i would say aside from sunny the question of
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whether or not it's time for him to retire is
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his life what he wants it to be and i love that
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they show that at the very end he's offered something
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that could launch his career in another way Like
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you could take Ruben's place. You could take
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this, you know, we want you to, I don't even
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know what the title is, manage a team or something
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like that. But for. Sonny, the thing that's important
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is not the title or the money or the salary he's
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going to get or even like his connection to F1.
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It's I just want to keep racing. Like I want
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my life to look like this. And that might mean
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going to where does he end up in Mexico? And
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he's just doing like for pennies on the dollar.
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He's like, I'll just take a race here and I'll
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just do what what is fun to me. And that shows
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like where his values actually lie. And that
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I'm going to get. personal for a minute because
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that's what I'm at and I'm watching this movie
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and I'm thinking about my own life my own career
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you know you look at the trajectory of my career
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and if you look at what I'm doing right now you
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might think oh he's on the downward slope he's
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.539
already been to the top now he's just sitting
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in his studio in his basement making shows about
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movies but he's been in Hollywood and done all
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this but no I'm having fun yeah and it's not
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like I'm trying to re -enter My prime or anything.
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I know there's more left. I don't think I've
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peaked yet. And a lot of people feel that way
00:29:58.349 --> 00:30:01.970
in their careers. And I think that's the real
00:30:01.970 --> 00:30:04.750
lesson right here. You don't have to be the fastest
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anymore. You don't have to be the top of the
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top anymore. You just got to be intentional with
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what you're doing. And that's where Brad Pitt,
00:30:14.049 --> 00:30:16.289
that's where Sonny Hayes, that's what he's doing.
00:30:16.349 --> 00:30:19.809
He's being intentional. And he knows what he
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wants. He knows what he's capable of. That's
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how I kind of reflected with this movie. I know
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what I'm still capable of. Could I go back to
00:30:27.380 --> 00:30:29.240
Hollywood right now and do all that again? Yeah.
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Probably bigger and better because like Sonny
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:34.420
Hayes, I have learned the mistakes and I have
00:30:34.420 --> 00:30:37.640
learned what works. Yeah. But we're not afraid
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:39.559
to go back to the bottom and start building ourselves
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:42.859
up again either. I'm having fun. I'm having a
00:30:42.859 --> 00:30:45.059
lot of fun. What's your final thoughts on F1
00:30:45.059 --> 00:30:47.460
if you haven't already given them? I'd like to
00:30:47.460 --> 00:30:49.619
think that I would have made a really good driver.
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:57.700
But probably not. I want to know from the freaks,
00:30:57.700 --> 00:31:03.920
have you been in this situation where you know
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.039
you got more left in the tank, but somebody's
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:09.920
trying to tell you, no, thank you for your service.
00:31:09.940 --> 00:31:13.460
You're great. You've done good. Because I think
00:31:13.460 --> 00:31:17.500
we've all been there when we know. I've always
00:31:17.500 --> 00:31:22.230
said that the only person that truly knows Yourself
00:31:22.230 --> 00:31:25.589
is yourself. And nobody else can tell you it's
00:31:25.589 --> 00:31:27.670
time to retire. LeBron James, they can't tell
00:31:27.670 --> 00:31:31.650
him it's time to retire. They can't. And he's
00:31:31.650 --> 00:31:33.250
going to still play because he knows what his
00:31:33.250 --> 00:31:36.549
body's capable of. And I think you just got to
00:31:36.549 --> 00:31:38.250
listen to that. You got to listen to what's telling
00:31:38.250 --> 00:31:41.170
you inside of you that you can do that. You can
00:31:41.170 --> 00:31:42.970
do whatever somebody's telling you you can't
00:31:42.970 --> 00:31:46.230
do. And I do. I wanted to know from the freaks.
00:31:46.569 --> 00:31:48.890
Do you have more left in the tank and somebody's
00:31:48.890 --> 00:31:51.089
told you that you can't? Are you in that season
00:31:51.089 --> 00:31:54.130
right now? Tell us in the comments because we
00:31:54.130 --> 00:31:56.769
like to have those conversations. We want to
00:31:56.769 --> 00:31:59.730
talk to the freaks out there and find out what's
00:31:59.730 --> 00:32:02.690
going on. Yeah, you only get this one wild and
00:32:02.690 --> 00:32:07.269
precious life. And so why waste it doing, you
00:32:07.269 --> 00:32:10.849
know, being placed in the back burner or being
00:32:10.849 --> 00:32:13.849
placed in like, yeah, stick you in a cubicle
00:32:13.849 --> 00:32:17.289
and. Until you retire. Yeah. Or whatever it is
00:32:17.289 --> 00:32:20.390
that you feel passionate about. What is it that
00:32:20.390 --> 00:32:23.369
drives you to get up every day and with enthusiasm
00:32:23.369 --> 00:32:27.490
want to face that day and do what you love? Only
00:32:27.490 --> 00:32:29.490
thing I can say before we get out of here to
00:32:29.490 --> 00:32:32.970
leave the freaks with is just remember, what
00:32:32.970 --> 00:32:35.710
would Iggy do? Just think about it like that.
00:32:35.769 --> 00:32:38.029
What would Iggy do? The man was 78 years old
00:32:38.029 --> 00:32:41.049
and went and rocked Coachella, okay? He's still
00:32:41.049 --> 00:32:43.789
rocking it. That is this episode of Parallel
00:32:43.789 --> 00:32:45.990
Frequencies. I am Just Blaine. That is Coco.
00:32:46.349 --> 00:32:48.410
You are the freaks and we will see you on the
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other side.
















