Train Dreams Netflix Review: A 5-Star Heartbreaker

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Life doesn't give you a montage to get over the

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grief. It gives you a shovel and tells you to

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keep on digging. It gives you an ax and says,

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keep on chopping. You don't get to slow down.

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We live in a world now that we want more, faster,

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and grainier lives in a world of less, slower,

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forever. There's a quiet rebellion in just enduring.

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Have you ever been laying in bed and you hear

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that train passing by? 3 a .m. Sometimes the

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train whistle is like a lullaby, and others it's

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a warning sign. Why is that? Today's movie is

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Train Dreams. Welcome to Parallel Frequencies.

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I am Just Blaine. That is Coco, and you are the

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freaks. Coco, what's up over there? How are you?

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Hey, I'm just hanging out in my art room. Just

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hanging out. I see that. Chat, you know. I see

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that, and I see that shameless plug for Practically

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Magic. That's just where the poster goes when

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I'm not using it, so it gets a little cameo appearance

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in parallel frequencies. I love that. I love

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that. We did a great movie yesterday, Good Luck,

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Have Fun, Don't Die, and lots of people talking

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about that. They had to go watch it. They had

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to see for themselves. What else have you watched

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here lately? You seen anything good? Oh, yeah.

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Over the weekend. You know what I'm really digging

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is that Adam Sandler's daughters are getting

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involved in his production company. And they've

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been doing some great movies over the last couple

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of years. You're So Not Invited to My Bat Mitzvah

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was fantastic. You know, it feels like this new

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era where, you know, Billy Madison and Happy

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Gilmore and all that was like the bros club.

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It was like Adam Sandler and all his buddies.

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And he just got off Saturday Night Live. So he

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was young and kind of an idiot in all those goofy

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movies, which I loved. No judgment. On that,

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I absolutely owned every one of them. But this

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feels like a new Adam Sandler or, I guess, Sandler

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generation. This is like a new era because this

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is about girls and it kind of has a more feminine

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silliness in the way that girls approach life

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and growing up and things like that. And I absolutely

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loved it. So I watched Roommates this weekend.

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It just came out. Yeah, okay. And I love what

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you're saying here. I love this take on Adam

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Sandler. I thought the same thing when I saw

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Happy Gilmore 2 and I saw Sadie. He's got Sadie

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and Sonny. Sadie played Charlotte in Happy Gilmore

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2 and I thought she absolutely crushed it. I

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can't wait to see more from them. I liked it.

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Oh, these are just absolutely like a little peek.

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If anybody wanted a little peek, see into the

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life of a girl growing up and what that's really

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like or girl relationships. And before that turns

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off, everybody who's like, nah, I don't want

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to see that. We've been watching bro movies forever

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and we're... You know, we're all for it. So if

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you want a little taste into how a girl life

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and relationships can be hilarious and funny

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and deep and moving and terrifying and all of

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the things, I think they do a great job. Sadie,

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I think is the, yeah, she's the lead in this

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new one, Roommates. And, you know, she plays

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somebody who has a hard time making friends.

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And so when she finally goes to college and her

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and her roommate become besties, she's like,

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I finally found a best friend. And then it kind

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of goes. wrong and man i can relate i mean we

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all have like a hard time making friends that

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feel like a really deep authentic connection

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with somebody yeah and sometimes you feel really

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wary of that relationship of like i want to be

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besties with this person but can i trust them

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are they going to betray me in some way and that

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plays out in this movie but like hilariously

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i love that it's a perfect blend great and that's

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netflix Netflix. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I believe

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so. Happy Madison and Netflix. I believe they've

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got that. Yeah, they've got a great thing going.

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A little partnership. A little partnership there,

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we'll say. I love that, though. I watched a lot

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of sports. I will say that. I watched about 12

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NBA games in the last just couple days plus the

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weekend. I love it. I'm all about it. We won't

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talk sports right here, but this is Ride the

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Wave Media, and we do have a sports show. Those

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guys. Yeah, we got to bring those guys in on

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that talk. Right, and it's hosted by a former

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Denver Bronco. He played in the NFL. So this

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guy, Nick Ferguson, I love him, buddy of mine.

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Go check out that show if you want to hear more

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sports talk. There was another sports thing that

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happened over the weekend. We have a new fastest

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human ever. Sebastian Saul from Kenya ran the

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first ever sub two hour marathon. Sub two hour

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marathon. He had to average. Listen to this.

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He had to average four minutes and thirty three

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seconds per mile for twenty six miles. Insane.

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I don't think I don't think I could run a mile

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in. Could we run a mile in under two hours? You

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know, I've been trying to get back into running.

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I used to do cross country, but I was still never

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good at the long distance running. My endurance

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is just not there. I have short little legs.

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Short little legs trying to run. And I think

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I might be allergic to running because I break

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out in itching in my legs. I think it's like

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a circulation problem or something. That's wild.

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If there's any runners out there that can let

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me know why that happens, I would love to know

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because I've asked everybody. I have no idea

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why that happens. But I've been trying to little

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by little build myself up to two miles. I'm like,

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one mile. I did it. Yeah, I can do it in like

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16 minutes. I used to love to run. It's ridiculous.

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I can't get into it anymore. I just can't do

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it. Just can't do it. It's a thing. It's a thing.

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But there is runner's high. And that's a real

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thing. So even if it's a mile, even if it's just

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one mile and you just run that over and over

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and over again and get a little faster each time,

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you get this high that's pretty awesome. You

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can make it happen. But, man, two -hour marathon,

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that's insane to me. And we live in an area that

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runners would love. It's beautiful. It's beautiful

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scenery. It's beautiful to look at. And that's

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much like our movie today on, what are we calling

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this, Top Tier Tuesday? Top Tier Tuesday. For

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those who were hoping to get in on Tube Tuesday,

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TV Tuesday, we took a break from that to cover

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some of the award -winning movies and award -nominated

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movies since we had the Oscars last month. I

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wanted to touch on some of these great movies

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that they got to cover. In those awards. Yeah,

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and this one right here, Train Dreams. I saw

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it on Netflix. It's on Netflix right now. This

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is our Netflix episode, I guess. I guess it is.

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Giving them a shout out, giving them a plug,

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even though they're raising the prices again.

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We won't go into that. Don't get me started.

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Right? Train Dreams, though. It's not your typical

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popcorn flick. It's soul uncomfortable cinema.

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It's rugged, beautiful, and it's got enough dirt

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under its fingernails to start a garden. This

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movie feels dirty, and it doesn't. I think Roger

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Ebert and them, I don't know if it's him or whoever

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it is, but they said it too, and they said this

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is one that you just take in. Yes. And that's

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what this whole movie is. It's very average,

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let's just say. I'm not talking about the movie.

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story and a life and what what is happening it

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is it's like right this man this guy's a forgotten

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person in history really and and there's so many

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like this that you could pluck out and tell a

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story just like this and you can see that everybody's

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the main character of their own story kind of

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that's hype that's exactly ordinary life made

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epic just by being what it was for the time period

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between the 1920s and 1960s this would have been

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probably pretty average life. I mean, struck

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with tragedy, but there were probably a lot of

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families in the West, things getting, you know,

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expanding and pioneers out settling new territory

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and things like that, a century or generation

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before that. But just the idea of like a... pretty

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average life you know yeah people die people

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live people are born and they just live and they

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just live out there in this wilderness and you

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got this main character in this one the guy uh

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robert grainier is is the name and joel edgerton

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is the one that plays him and it's it's incredible

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but he's a laborer at the start of the 20th century

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now you got this is the the time in in history

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There's no Wi -Fi. There's no safety nets. It's

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just a man, an ax, and a dream of building a

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life in the American West. Have you ever seen

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those black and white photos of the men sitting

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on steel beams like 50 feet in the air? Yeah.

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And you think... Yeah, from the building in New

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York City. Yeah, and you think, who hurt you?

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Like, why are you doing this? You were this close

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to falling off. Like, how can you be so fearless

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and be up there? Why risk their lives like that?

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And you're right. It is the American dream. I

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mean, it was the whole idea we were sold, like

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just make enough money. Maybe you can start your

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own whatever and build a life for yourself. That's

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better. Leave something better for the children

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that you have. And yeah, that was, you know,

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motivating for a lot of people was like, yeah,

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I got to get out there. I got to log these trees.

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I'm pretty sure I'm, you know, one. Tiny little

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mistake away from being crushed by a tree out

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here in the wilderness. Risking my life for this.

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For a logging company, by the way. For a logging

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company. Not for anything that noble. But hoping

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he might scrap together enough money to start

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a mill at home and stay home with his family.

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And, you know, you kind of see that play out

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in this movie. This guy, Robert Greiner, he's...

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He's just your great -grandfather. He's my great

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-grandfather. Exactly. That's all this is, right?

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I love how you just touched on it. He's like

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the quiet protagonist. He's not out there to

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save the world. He's just trying to survive the

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sheer weight of it. And the train in this is

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a symbol. It's progress, sure, but it's also

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a giant metal snake cutting through the silence

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of the wilderness. And that's what they're helping.

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to to put up to do and you've got the fire and

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that's kind of the the shift tone from the from

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the movie and it changes everything for him because

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you know this loss it's not a plot point but

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it's it's a atmospheric shift in the entire movie

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One day you've got a family, you're just doing

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your thing. The next, you've got ash in a valley

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that looks like the surface of the moon. Because

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that's what it looks like you walked into. And

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that's sad. It's tragic. And then, you know,

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how many of us have had a before and an after?

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The moment where the timeline of your life just

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snaps or splits or whatever you think it does.

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Because it does happen to all of us. It may not

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be as... as what happens to Robert Granier, but

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we all have those moments. Do we not, Coco? The

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grief that he feels, you know, you feel that,

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again, like you said, the before and then the

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after. There's this death that happens, not just

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the death of his family, but for him. Yes. He

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died. A part of him died. His purpose died. He

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had to find new purpose. He had to keep going.

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you know, one of the quotes from the movie, one

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of my favorite ones, a man can get used to anything,

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even things that break him. He's not going to,

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you know, roll over and die, but he also has

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to find a new way of living because they were

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his reason for living. They were his reason for

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going out and logging and trying to earn enough

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money and, and start a garden. Try to catch fish

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in the river and the, you know, the world and

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life that he knew had to change. But I love that

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you mentioned the black and white photo. Cause

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this reminds me it's, it's almost coming up.

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May 10th is the anniversary of the golden spike

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here in Utah. It's a big deal. It's when the

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railroad came, transcontinental railroad was

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complete and the golden spike was drug dug into

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the last beam or railroad. tie that they put

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down yeah and my dad actually does the reenactment

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every year he's one of the guys that goes up

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there and plays one of the delegates from Arizona

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or some such thing I'm not sure yeah reenact

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the photo the black and white photo of the two

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train cars coming together and everybody in that

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photo and that's a big deal for Utah history

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And for a lot of us who have relatives, I have

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a relative in that photo, the original photo

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from The Golden Spike, one of my great -great

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-grandfathers, some such, you know, however many

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generations back. Yeah. But I think this movie

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really helped, like, kind of show that balance

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between progression, right? It was all about,

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like, westward expansion and, you know, unite

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the east and the west. But then also what were

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they doing to the environment, to the indigenous

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people that lived on that land? They were displacing

00:14:31.570 --> 00:14:34.750
them to build that railroad. You know, those

00:14:34.750 --> 00:14:38.870
of us who have ancestry that are, there's a photo.

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Look at there. Yeah. Yeah, ask me if I can point

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out which one's my relative. I don't know if

00:14:44.850 --> 00:14:46.870
I could, but we have that picture all over in

00:14:46.870 --> 00:14:49.029
our house. Well, we might be able to find out

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right here because they've got them labeled.

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Look at this. We have the little numbers on them.

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I think my husband has a relative in that too.

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We're all from, our family hails from Brigham

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City, which is just a little south of where the

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Golden Spike is. So that's our family history

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there. But you feel like both that grief and

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that pride of being a part of all that. And it's

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like, I don't know, I feel like that was really

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displayed well in this movie. Yeah. William H.

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Macy playing Arne Peoples, kind of the wise old

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man with all his wisdom and all the years he

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spent out there in the wilderness logging. And

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he says things like, you know, the trees being

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friends until they're... being our friends until

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they're our enemy when the blade first hits and

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we go to war, right? Yeah. And he has a quote

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in there. The world is in... I'm going to mess

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this up. The world is intricately stitched together,

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boys. Every thread we pull, we will not know

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how it affects the design of things. So he kind

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of had this... wisdom to share with these young

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men where it's like it's not just about money

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it's not just about being out here logging these

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trees for this logging company but it's about

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respecting the balance of things as you're out

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here you're you're influencing future generations

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by taking these trees down and what that what

00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:21.759
that will inevitably do to our future right i

00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:25.480
loved that play with all of that nature versus

00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:28.759
man kind of balance in this movie yeah we see

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that we see a lot of that we see nature kill

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people without warning you know and that's what's

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going on right there in the in the forest in

00:16:41.059 --> 00:16:42.799
the loggers and they just keep on going it's

00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:47.980
like well you know we don't get to grieve It's

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not a lot of time for that. There's more money

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to be made and there's a deadline to hit and

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let's go. But I think that's what it was like

00:16:56.740 --> 00:16:59.399
then. You know, life doesn't give you a montage

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to get over the grief. It gives you a shovel

00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:03.299
and tells you to keep on digging. It gives you

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an ax and says, keep on chopping the trees. Like

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you don't get to slow down. And that's crazy.

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We live in a world now that we want more faster

00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:20.119
now. And Grenier lives in a world of less, slower,

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forever. There's a quiet rebellion in just enduring.

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Yeah. And not becoming a villain because the

00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.839
world was mean to you, because a fire took out

00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:35.839
your whole family, you could have become a supervillain

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and this could have been a whole other movie.

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But he didn't, and he just rocked on through

00:17:40.180 --> 00:17:43.240
the world, you know? Yeah. It reminded me of

00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:47.019
my grandfather, actually, who was born in the

00:17:47.019 --> 00:17:49.579
house I grew up in, up there in Brigham City.

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It was his father's house and it was built in

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1988. So it was like during this time period

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that they were living in that house. And I don't

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know, I watch movies like this where Gladys,

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his wife, is taking their little daughter and

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they're going out. And I loved that she was just

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kind of right out there with them. There was

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a lot of equality. There wasn't like a, this

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is what the women do and this is what the men

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do. When they were together in their home, in

00:18:17.500 --> 00:18:21.059
their cabin, they were both kind of doing whatever

00:18:21.059 --> 00:18:24.119
the work required. She was in pants and overalls

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and she's just, you know, doing what needs to

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be. She's building herself a fish trap. And he's

00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:31.859
like, that's a great looking bassinet. I love

00:18:31.859 --> 00:18:34.799
that scene. But when you watch scenes like that

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and you see them just kind of doing their thing,

00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:39.759
they're gardening, they're, you know, going about

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life and it's, it's kind of slow, but also there's

00:18:43.940 --> 00:18:46.799
a lot of work to be done. What do you think?

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Do you think that looks serene or are you like,

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man, I'm so glad I have wifi. I got to say, I

00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:56.359
mean, I kind of grew up, I grew up on a farm.

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So there was a lot of me that. Yeah, I could

00:19:00.289 --> 00:19:03.150
think back to my youth, let's say, and watch

00:19:03.150 --> 00:19:05.150
this movie and think, oh, I remember the days

00:19:05.150 --> 00:19:09.690
of, yeah, no phones, being out all day from the

00:19:09.690 --> 00:19:14.190
time the sun came up till past dark and not ever

00:19:14.190 --> 00:19:17.670
touching a device. Yeah. I remember those days.

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Yeah, I long for it. I mean, I don't give myself

00:19:22.029 --> 00:19:24.900
enough of that time, but... I would almost need

00:19:24.900 --> 00:19:26.859
to force myself, right? I would need to be like,

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okay, today's a no device day. Like we're totally

00:19:30.819 --> 00:19:33.339
taking a break. We're putting it all away and

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force ourselves to really live without it. And

00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:37.980
to have an experience of what you see in this

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movie, that what some people call the greatest

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generation for that reason is it was the last

00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:45.920
time people had that where you didn't have anything

00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:49.839
like pressing right now. You sent an email. It

00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:51.740
has to be sent right back. It was like, exactly.

00:19:53.049 --> 00:19:55.369
you've got time. Like those loggers, yeah, they

00:19:55.369 --> 00:19:57.690
had deadlines and they were told, you know, no

00:19:57.690 --> 00:19:59.430
time for grieving. They put a shovel back in

00:19:59.430 --> 00:20:01.670
their hand and get going. But at the same time,

00:20:01.710 --> 00:20:03.630
they had plenty of time out there in the wilderness

00:20:03.630 --> 00:20:06.890
to think their thoughts, to wander around, to

00:20:06.890 --> 00:20:10.309
engage and feel the connectedness of the trees

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and the land and have a relationship with that.

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It actually reminded me of Ralph Waldo Emerson

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and the essays of him, you know, talking about

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the connection in nature and being yourself and

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finding yourself in nature. I do. I think that

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that's something in this movie that comes through

00:20:36.529 --> 00:20:39.029
the screen to you. I think it's also ironic that

00:20:39.029 --> 00:20:41.990
we're sitting at home watching this beautiful

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movie on these high -res 4K TVs and this guy's

00:20:45.710 --> 00:20:49.140
only looking for a... Dry place to sleep. The

00:20:49.140 --> 00:20:53.119
irony between the two of these is crazy about

00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:55.559
the time that we're watching this. I want to

00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:59.019
point out the cinematography because you do get

00:20:59.019 --> 00:21:03.940
lost in this movie. You will. If you don't like

00:21:03.940 --> 00:21:05.980
roughing it out in nature, you're not going to

00:21:05.980 --> 00:21:08.359
like this movie. Or you might love it because

00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:10.660
you can get dirty. I love it and I couldn't do

00:21:10.660 --> 00:21:14.960
it. You can actually see what it's like out there

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and not have to get dirty. The director of photography,

00:21:18.490 --> 00:21:24.509
Adolfo Veloso, was also the first Brazilian nominated

00:21:24.509 --> 00:21:27.089
for an Oscar in the Best Cinematography category.

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So shout out to that because it really does pull

00:21:32.289 --> 00:21:36.230
you in and make you feel like you're part of

00:21:36.230 --> 00:21:44.269
this world. I mean, it's a thing that you watch

00:21:44.269 --> 00:21:50.910
and... You think, can I do this? Because you

00:21:50.910 --> 00:21:52.809
see these people working their asses off out

00:21:52.809 --> 00:21:56.750
in the woods, and you do think about kind of

00:21:56.750 --> 00:21:58.750
what you were saying about people of today versus

00:21:58.750 --> 00:22:02.289
people of then, and you don't see much bitching

00:22:02.289 --> 00:22:04.049
and moaning going on by these loggers who are

00:22:04.049 --> 00:22:07.109
doing some hard work. They're dying out there.

00:22:08.250 --> 00:22:15.930
Tell me what work is harder than dying for? I'm

00:22:15.930 --> 00:22:18.509
just looking at it now and thinking we are soft

00:22:18.509 --> 00:22:26.049
today. You got people now. I couldn't sleep outside

00:22:26.049 --> 00:22:29.549
for a whole night. I think I'd be miserable and

00:22:29.549 --> 00:22:32.150
I would be looking for the first way out of it.

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As soon as I felt the cold and the wet and anything

00:22:36.109 --> 00:22:39.470
uncomfortable, I'm looking for a way out. I fully

00:22:39.470 --> 00:22:43.039
admit it. Even in admitting that I have a. deeply

00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:46.099
spiritual connection to nature and trees. I really

00:22:46.099 --> 00:22:51.240
do. But camping? Not my thing. It's hard for

00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:55.900
me. Yeah, but to see this movie show the generation

00:22:55.900 --> 00:23:02.039
of a man who built his own log cabin, grew his

00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:06.049
own food, caught his own fish. you know, lived

00:23:06.049 --> 00:23:08.630
that kind of life. And then towards the end of

00:23:08.630 --> 00:23:10.369
the movie, you see towards the end of his life,

00:23:10.490 --> 00:23:13.650
it's the 1960s and he's watching astronauts on

00:23:13.650 --> 00:23:18.650
TV in space. Yeah, yeah. That blew my mind. And

00:23:18.650 --> 00:23:22.390
I wonder if our generation sees that much difference.

00:23:22.750 --> 00:23:27.049
From when I was first born, what I've seen in

00:23:27.049 --> 00:23:31.650
the 80s, 90s, and now, am I seeing that big of

00:23:31.650 --> 00:23:34.799
a difference in technology and innovation? or

00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.240
is it just happening around me so much that I'm

00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:40.480
not as aware of it? I don't know, because that

00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:44.059
blew my mind in that part of the movie. Now,

00:23:44.059 --> 00:23:46.539
see, that's where we could get off on a tangent

00:23:46.539 --> 00:23:53.039
here. We could talk about some crazy stuff. Yeah,

00:23:53.180 --> 00:23:55.839
but we could really go off on a tangent and say,

00:23:55.900 --> 00:23:58.599
well, yeah, there was a huge increase in technology

00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:03.420
that we haven't seen that kind of jump either.

00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:06.299
I don't think so. The amount of time that we

00:24:06.299 --> 00:24:09.799
were flying, that we first took flight in an

00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:13.359
airplane to landing on the fucking moon is not

00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:17.160
enough time. So you could get off of some conspiracy

00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:19.140
theories here and start thinking, well, maybe

00:24:19.140 --> 00:24:24.640
we got some interdimensional technology that

00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:30.359
we didn't have before. The disclosure day is

00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:32.059
coming. That's coming. I don't mean just the

00:24:32.059 --> 00:24:34.579
movie. There's a lot more than I don't know of.

00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.599
I'm just observationally looking around me and

00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:39.759
thinking, well, yeah, we have AI now and that's

00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:43.539
doing some really incredible negative and positive

00:24:43.539 --> 00:24:46.680
things. I have a love -hate relationship with

00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:50.680
the whole AI boom. But just to look at like,

00:24:50.819 --> 00:24:55.279
yeah, just from the 80s to now, where we're at,

00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:57.859
where we're headed. By the time you and I are

00:24:57.859 --> 00:25:00.940
in our 60s, 70s, what will we be seeing? And

00:25:00.940 --> 00:25:03.359
will it be as big of a difference as what Robert

00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:05.299
saw in this movie from the beginning of his life?

00:25:05.700 --> 00:25:07.619
Let's think about it like this, because Robert

00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:14.900
did not have the means to keep up with what's

00:25:14.900 --> 00:25:18.339
going on as fast as we do now. So let's take

00:25:18.339 --> 00:25:22.759
that out of the picture. How about this? Let's

00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:27.150
say somebody was jailed. and in the 80s, and

00:25:27.150 --> 00:25:29.990
they've been cut off. Okay. And they haven't

00:25:29.990 --> 00:25:34.690
seen the technology. Yeah. Yale, whatever. They've

00:25:34.690 --> 00:25:38.170
been cut off from the world for 40 years. When

00:25:38.170 --> 00:25:42.289
they come out, all you'd have to do would be

00:25:42.289 --> 00:25:44.230
show them one of these bad boys, and it would

00:25:44.230 --> 00:25:46.910
probably blow their fucking mind. Yeah. Because

00:25:46.910 --> 00:25:51.309
think about it. You're right. So I think we've

00:25:51.309 --> 00:25:54.920
seen big jumps. It's just we get to see it. In

00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.579
real time. Yeah, and we've had it in our hands.

00:25:57.900 --> 00:26:02.380
We've had it in our hands watching it progress

00:26:02.380 --> 00:26:05.539
each time we get a new phone, each time we get

00:26:05.539 --> 00:26:07.720
a new device, right? We've seen that progression.

00:26:08.059 --> 00:26:13.740
So we might not be as shocked. Yeah. We've had

00:26:13.740 --> 00:26:16.380
some pretty big advances, I would say, I think.

00:26:16.819 --> 00:26:20.059
But the advance, like I said, from riding horses

00:26:20.059 --> 00:26:23.920
and cutting logs to going to the moon. was not

00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:27.880
a long period of time. And that's crazy. Insane

00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:30.180
to me. Yeah, that must have been amazing. My

00:26:30.180 --> 00:26:32.619
uncle who just passed away, he was actually writing

00:26:32.619 --> 00:26:36.420
a book. I hope somebody has a copy of it and

00:26:36.420 --> 00:26:38.960
we get it published. But it was about the greatest

00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.299
generation being my grandfather's generation,

00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:44.960
you know, born in the early 1900s in the 20th

00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:48.279
century and what they saw, what they did, what

00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.980
they... How they survived. And watching this

00:26:52.980 --> 00:26:54.859
movie really made me kind of connect with that

00:26:54.859 --> 00:26:58.579
idea of, while there's a lot to be proud of,

00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:02.099
again, I do feel like the whole idea of Manifest

00:27:02.099 --> 00:27:05.299
Destiny and Westward Expansion was really kind

00:27:05.299 --> 00:27:10.299
of, it was that colonizing mentality that ended

00:27:10.299 --> 00:27:12.259
up ruining a lot of things. I mean, the way that

00:27:12.259 --> 00:27:16.950
we almost made Buffalo extinct. I mean, just

00:27:16.950 --> 00:27:20.410
the impact we had on the environment, the over

00:27:20.410 --> 00:27:24.710
-logging, you know, cutting down trees and all

00:27:24.710 --> 00:27:26.470
of that. And I wouldn't have been aware of that

00:27:26.470 --> 00:27:29.210
had I not taken some college classes I was not

00:27:29.210 --> 00:27:33.809
supposed to take. Somebody said, this will be

00:27:33.809 --> 00:27:35.890
a credit on your college course. Take this natural

00:27:35.890 --> 00:27:38.930
resources something or other class. And I was

00:27:38.930 --> 00:27:41.269
like, oh man, do I have to? This sounds like

00:27:41.269 --> 00:27:43.690
the most boring class in the world. And then

00:27:43.690 --> 00:27:47.150
I took it and the professor was like, I'm going

00:27:47.150 --> 00:27:49.190
to blow your minds right now. I'm going to talk

00:27:49.190 --> 00:27:52.170
about the philosophies of manifest destiny, why

00:27:52.170 --> 00:27:55.390
it ruined the planet and all these ways and natural

00:27:55.390 --> 00:27:59.109
resources that are now drying up. And I haven't

00:27:59.109 --> 00:28:01.450
been able to forget it since. So here I am now

00:28:01.450 --> 00:28:05.089
being like, whoa, watching this train dreams

00:28:05.089 --> 00:28:08.230
movie going, man, there's a lot more to this

00:28:08.230 --> 00:28:10.769
than we ever thought or that was written in history

00:28:10.769 --> 00:28:14.829
books, right? Absolutely. What's your final thoughts

00:28:14.829 --> 00:28:19.880
on train dreams? Oh, let's see. My final thoughts

00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:24.839
are my personal connection to this movie where

00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:29.019
I felt that the, that the, um, the spirituality

00:28:29.019 --> 00:28:32.400
of it comes from like the Druid background that

00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:36.460
I have where the trees are worshiped. The trees

00:28:36.460 --> 00:28:40.369
are like gods. The trees are. you know, kind

00:28:40.369 --> 00:28:43.609
of a spiritual conduit. And this movie connected

00:28:43.609 --> 00:28:46.809
to that in such a way that I loved Robert's character

00:28:46.809 --> 00:28:51.829
showing a sort of honorable masculinity and a

00:28:51.829 --> 00:28:54.970
sort of spiritual connection to his job as a

00:28:54.970 --> 00:28:57.809
logger. It wasn't like, I'm just out here just

00:28:57.809 --> 00:29:00.990
to cut down trees and make money. It was very

00:29:00.990 --> 00:29:04.109
much like, I'm here to become the person I'm

00:29:04.109 --> 00:29:07.150
meant to be. And the trees were sort of that

00:29:08.450 --> 00:29:11.589
in helping him do that. And I think armed peoples

00:29:11.589 --> 00:29:13.549
too, because he was respectful of the trees as

00:29:13.549 --> 00:29:15.529
well. He understood that relationship with them.

00:29:15.950 --> 00:29:19.930
So for me, I want everybody to just watch this

00:29:19.930 --> 00:29:24.730
movie and think about your relationship to trees.

00:29:25.170 --> 00:29:28.069
Not just logging, not just in the way that we

00:29:28.069 --> 00:29:31.390
cut them down, we use them, but like, what if

00:29:31.390 --> 00:29:35.109
they were a witness to our lives from birth?

00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:39.400
to death. And then the next generation, the legacy

00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:42.660
we've left, the trees are around for so much

00:29:42.660 --> 00:29:45.859
longer. And our people says that when he says,

00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:47.500
you know, when you cut down a tree, that's as

00:29:47.500 --> 00:29:51.039
old as Jesus, it hurts your soul. Yeah. I mean,

00:29:51.059 --> 00:29:52.720
you have to really think about that. You have

00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:54.619
to think about like, this isn't just a resource

00:29:54.619 --> 00:29:57.880
that I'm extracting what I want from it, but

00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:02.880
a sentient being with energy that lived a life.

00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.579
Right. That's one of my thoughts on this movie.

00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.240
No, I love that. I love that. You know, like

00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:19.240
the trees are alive and why wouldn't it affect?

00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.619
You know, I could go deeper there too and start

00:30:23.619 --> 00:30:26.859
talking about the thin places in the forest,

00:30:26.940 --> 00:30:30.960
you know, and how it gets too quiet, which the

00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:34.950
quietness in this film. The sound design, amazing,

00:30:35.210 --> 00:30:37.829
because it feels heavy. They make the silence

00:30:37.829 --> 00:30:41.089
feel heavy, like you're underwater almost, but

00:30:41.089 --> 00:30:45.349
you're in the forest. And, you know, the woods

00:30:45.349 --> 00:30:48.549
are weird anyway. What's the strangest thing

00:30:48.549 --> 00:30:50.369
you've ever seen out in the woods? Or have you

00:30:50.369 --> 00:30:53.609
been in the woods enough? Or were you the strangest

00:30:53.609 --> 00:30:56.009
thing out there, Coco? Probably. Yeah, it's probably

00:30:56.009 --> 00:30:57.849
more accurate. As people were like, I'm afraid

00:30:57.849 --> 00:31:02.710
of you, Courtney. No, I'm not scary. I will say

00:31:02.710 --> 00:31:05.289
we did girls camp and things like that a lot

00:31:05.289 --> 00:31:08.630
when I was a kid. I've gone out there and roughed

00:31:08.630 --> 00:31:13.210
it. I've done it before. I can do it. But I remember

00:31:13.210 --> 00:31:15.609
one time we were traveling through the woods.

00:31:15.650 --> 00:31:17.769
We had to get from one side of the camp to the

00:31:17.769 --> 00:31:19.769
other. We had a fireside activity or something.

00:31:20.210 --> 00:31:23.450
And then we had to get to our... base camp or

00:31:23.450 --> 00:31:25.230
wherever our tents were or something but it was

00:31:25.230 --> 00:31:27.910
the sun was down and i don't think we brought

00:31:27.910 --> 00:31:29.710
enough flashlights or lights for all of us because

00:31:29.710 --> 00:31:32.369
we were kind of like having to hold hands through

00:31:32.369 --> 00:31:35.130
the dark and you know like get ourselves through

00:31:35.130 --> 00:31:37.390
the path because only one person at the front

00:31:37.390 --> 00:31:39.789
had a lantern so we didn't know where we were

00:31:39.789 --> 00:31:42.170
or where we were going and the woods at night

00:31:42.170 --> 00:31:45.509
wow that's like because you can't see anything

00:31:45.509 --> 00:31:47.190
past the trees that are right in front of you

00:31:47.190 --> 00:31:49.809
so you don't know what's right I mean, something

00:31:49.809 --> 00:31:51.730
could be right next to you and you wouldn't know

00:31:51.730 --> 00:31:54.609
it. Yeah. I remember walking through the woods,

00:31:54.730 --> 00:31:56.470
you know, holding hands with my friends. And

00:31:56.470 --> 00:32:02.690
I looked around and I saw all these people. Just

00:32:02.690 --> 00:32:06.529
a, like, massive amount of people. But they were

00:32:06.529 --> 00:32:10.470
all dressed in, like, 19th century clothing.

00:32:10.849 --> 00:32:14.490
Like, long skirts on the women, bonnets kind

00:32:14.490 --> 00:32:17.890
of things. There were children in, like, little...

00:32:18.089 --> 00:32:22.529
you know, kind of overall type clothing and whatnot.

00:32:22.869 --> 00:32:26.609
And I was terrified. I didn't know what I was

00:32:26.609 --> 00:32:28.609
seeing. I didn't know why I was seeing it. I

00:32:28.609 --> 00:32:30.250
didn't think anyone else could see it because

00:32:30.250 --> 00:32:32.809
nobody said anything. But I was like, what are

00:32:32.809 --> 00:32:35.630
all these people doing here? And I just kind

00:32:35.630 --> 00:32:38.069
of like tried to close my eyes and just focus

00:32:38.069 --> 00:32:40.430
on the ground in front of me and just go. Now,

00:32:40.450 --> 00:32:42.309
had I known what I know now, I would have maybe

00:32:42.309 --> 00:32:45.410
stopped and like looked at them and talked to

00:32:45.410 --> 00:32:48.119
them. And I would have been like, hi. What are

00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:51.359
you doing here? Like, what's going on? But that

00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.460
was probably one of the coolest things I've ever

00:32:53.460 --> 00:32:57.059
had in the woods. And what was it? Who was it?

00:32:57.819 --> 00:33:02.960
People. But you don't know why? Nope. I imagine

00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:10.220
that they were ancestral pioneer spirits that

00:33:10.220 --> 00:33:13.640
were in the woods. I don't know if they were

00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.779
coming to me or they were drawn to us or what.

00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.660
Or if it was just like my ancestors showing up

00:33:20.660 --> 00:33:23.279
to be like, hi, you know, we're your ancestors

00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:26.420
or whatever. Or if they were connected to the

00:33:26.420 --> 00:33:29.200
forest somehow and that they had died in the

00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.740
area. Maybe they were around because they, you

00:33:32.740 --> 00:33:36.339
know, they're around. I'm not sure. Could be

00:33:36.339 --> 00:33:39.220
the same ones who were in the golden spike photo.

00:33:39.380 --> 00:33:42.519
Who knows? Yeah. What about the wolf girl in

00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:44.400
the train? Yeah, we didn't talk about the wolf

00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.269
girl. Oh my gosh. Wolf girl. Is that supernatural?

00:33:47.609 --> 00:33:49.650
Is he seeing it? Is he not seeing it? Like there's

00:33:49.650 --> 00:33:51.329
a whole thing to that. And you're talking about

00:33:51.329 --> 00:33:53.890
it right there. Like you don't know what's out

00:33:53.890 --> 00:33:56.170
there in the woods. I mean, was that just like

00:33:56.170 --> 00:33:59.750
an intense yearning in his heart for his daughter

00:33:59.750 --> 00:34:02.109
and wondering what really happened to her? And

00:34:02.109 --> 00:34:04.670
maybe she didn't die in the fire and he didn't

00:34:04.670 --> 00:34:08.449
know. And so, yeah, it's never, it's not fully

00:34:08.449 --> 00:34:11.349
clear, but I love the representation of that

00:34:11.349 --> 00:34:15.320
grief in that you could see him. you know, processing

00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.179
it. Like, oh, it's her. It's Katie. It's my daughter.

00:34:18.699 --> 00:34:21.500
And then she's gone the next day. And was she

00:34:21.500 --> 00:34:23.940
really there at all? And did I imagine it? And

00:34:23.940 --> 00:34:26.139
I loved that part of the movie. That was very,

00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:30.719
very powerful. My final thought is this is a

00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:33.679
five -star heartbreaker. Bring some tissues and

00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:37.199
a stiff drink if that's your thing. You know,

00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:43.639
it's a must -watch, I will say. Yes. tonight

00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:47.119
tonight freaks out there tonight go outside find

00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:52.260
the darkest most quiet spot you can and just

00:34:52.260 --> 00:34:56.460
listen yeah and then tell us what you hear and

00:34:56.460 --> 00:34:59.139
the frequencies of your own neighborhood and

00:34:59.139 --> 00:35:02.300
see what you can see if you actually intentionally

00:35:02.300 --> 00:35:04.179
are listening what you can hear out there i want

00:35:04.179 --> 00:35:09.300
to know i'm just playing she's coco you're the

00:35:09.300 --> 00:35:12.349
freaks It's parallel frequencies. We'll see you

00:35:12.349 --> 00:35:13.210
on the other side.