May 2, 2026

"Is This Thing On" Is The Most Relatable Movie You’ll Hate To Watch

"Is This Thing On" Is The Most Relatable Movie You’ll Hate To Watch
"Is This Thing On" Is The Most Relatable Movie You’ll Hate To Watch
Parallel Frequencies with Just Blane and Coco
"Is This Thing On" Is The Most Relatable Movie You’ll Hate To Watch
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In this episode of Parallel Frequencies, Just Blane and Coco take on "Feature Friday" with a deep dive into the raw and gritty film, Is This Thing On?. Directed by Bradley Cooper and starring Will Arnett and Laura Dern, the film is described as a "collision of Titans" that feels more like a "public therapy session" than a standard Hollywood release.

The duo explores the film's heavy themes, including the "invisible divorce"—where couples are too busy to actually split up—and the exhausting "performance" we all maintain in the age of social media and constant connection. Coco shares her personal "three marriages" theory regarding long-term loyalty, while Blane connects the film’s gritty "Giallo-style" cinematography to the high cost of being a creator. From Will Arnett’s heartbreaking turn as a father sleeping on the couch to a surprisingly deep cameo by Peyton Manning, this episode deconstructs why this movie hits so close to home.

Finally, the show wraps up with a "Freaky Friday" correction regarding Brad Pitt’s racing credentials and a look at Blane’s rare Boy Meets World Funko Pop collection.

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Hello? Hello? Is this thing on? Can you hear

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me? Is this thing on? Hello? Oh, and that's the

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energy we're riding with today because we're

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looking at Is This Thing On? A project that feels

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like a collision of titans. Laura Dern, Will

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Arnett, and Bradley Cooper helming this thing

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and directing it. I'm excited about Is This Thing

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On? Yes. This is Parallel Frequencies. I am Just

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Blaine. That is Coco. And you are the freaks.

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What's up over there, Coco? How are you today?

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Doing all right. I'm doing all right. I was doing

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burn boot camp this morning, getting my workout

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on. And today I hit 50 camps. And the burn boot

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camp culture is you get to cheer for people when

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they get to 50 and they get to sign a giant 50

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on the wall. I think it's a little sad how excited

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I was about this. Maybe my life wasn't that interesting

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because I was like, today's my 50. Today's my

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50. I think I'm excited for you. Show us them

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guns. Let's see. Are you looking chiseled? Oh,

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my God. Not really. Now that I see that camera,

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I'm like, no, I don't know if you can tell. But

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today was arm day. I see some tone. I see some

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tone up there. Yeah. Looking good. Looking good.

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Well, you did a whole lot more than me. You know

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what I did? I watched about two hours of Boy

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Meets World after our episode. I know. You didn't

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even have to do it for research because we already

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recorded that episode yesterday. I realized that

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right behind me I had, look at these collector's

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editions. I've got a Topanga and a Quidditch.

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I know, and I didn't realize. These things are

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so old, they got dirt on top of them. But they're

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unopened. There's a Corey Boy Meets World. And

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there's Topanga right there. But I keep them.

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I forget I keep them right here. My Funko Pop.

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And these are my special ones right here. This

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one right here, though. I really love this one.

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And this is going to get off on a side tangent.

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But this is me. This is a one -of -one. A dad

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-dad. My kids and Lindsey made this for me. And

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that's me. This guy. He's got a microphone in

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his hand, an award in his other hand, which I've

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never won an award, and a Siamese cat. That's

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fortune -telling right there. Like, when we get

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best podcast. Yeah. You know who has the best

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podcast? Who's that? Well, I wish I was about

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to say me. I was thinking, what would my little

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pop figure have? You know, like a witch's broom

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or something? Yeah. Paintbrush? I'm not sure.

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But one of the top podcasts, like... uh you know

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gets all the awards is smartless will arnett

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jason bateman and uh sean hayes who are all buddies

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in real life they started this podcast i think

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before the pandemic i think it goes way back

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but uh it's one of my favorites it's one that

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i it's on my lineup of get ready in the morning

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funny podcast i listen to you to brighten my

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mood and um that's how i found out about our

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movie today are you doing Cocos Trailer Park

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now? We're just going to start putting out new

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podcasts and talking about... We like to shine

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a light on and highlight on Trailer Park Thursdays

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the kind of lesser known, maybe podcasts, the

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ones that are just the average folks like myself

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who start a podcast and try to put our content

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in the world, but I don't think Smartless needs

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my help at all. I think they're doing just fine.

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But it is one of my favorites, so I just had

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to... Had to give a shout -out there because,

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you know, if Jason Bateman wants to contact me

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and say, thanks for the shout -out on your podcast,

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I would be thrilled. Or come on ours. Come talk

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to us. We need to get some more guests on here.

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Yeah, yeah. We'll have to work on that. Yeah,

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and we just haven't tried, really. We haven't

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really tried. We asked one person to come on

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with us, James Ward Burkett, the director of

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Coherence, and he said yes, and he did it. And

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we haven't asked anybody else, so we'll have

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to start asking some people. Yeah. To hop on

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a show. We're going to win an award. I'm just

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going to put that out there. I'm very confident.

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Either Practically Magic, Parallel Frequencies,

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or one of the Live the Wave media. Exactly. I

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don't care who it is. I just want my name to

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be attached to the award somehow. I guess I do

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have a couple awards if you look at it like that.

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I've got a couple of hosts that I've worked with

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who have Marconi Awards, which is the highest

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award in radio. I don't have one, but they do.

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So I help them. Elevate up. I'm putting it out

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there right now. We are going to win an award

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or get nominated or have somebody ask us or something.

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Yeah. I'm working on my acceptance speech. I'll

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work on it in the car and in the shower and when

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I'm getting ready. Yeah. I like that. Maybe I'll

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start working on mine too. But today is Feature

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Friday. And you turned me on to this movie. Is

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this thing on? And I don't think I'd heard of

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it. I think it was one that just kind of slipped

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under the radar. Perfect for Feature Friday.

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It's kind of like a little, you know, tucked

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away movie. Didn't get a big release, right?

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Like big blockbuster release. And this movie

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is, it's polished, but it's not. It's gritty,

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it's dirty, it's real. And I'm watching this

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thing and I'm like, holy crap, this is real life.

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This is what people really go through. This is

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how it is. There's two people in this movie,

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Tess Novak, Laura Dern. and Will Arnett, Alex

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Novak. And they started off by saying, should

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we call it? Sure, yeah. It's not fighting. And

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what they're talking about is their marriage.

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Yeah. And it's just like that. Yep, we should

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call it. And then you get to see what I consider

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two people who are too busy to get a divorce.

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And that's real life. They couldn't slow down

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enough to even be split up. That's crazy. Yeah,

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and it's clear that this isn't... like you said

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it's so subtle it's so it's so kind of um not

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explosive it's not this i think that's probably

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more common i don't know i don't know about you

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know going through divorces but i know that like

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when my marriage has hit some rocky patches here

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and there like i always tell people i've been

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through three marriages in my lifetime and they're

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all the same person yeah yeah that's average

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right that's that's common but to go through

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like these patches there's When you really love

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the other person, you're really loyal, you're

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really committed, it is hard to have this moment

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of, like, is this when we call it? Like, is this

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it? Because I don't feel like it is. And you

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kind of feel that push and pull in these characters.

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You know, they really still do love each other,

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and they really can't see their lives without

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each other, but they're also like, I think we've

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got to call it. I think this is it. This movie

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hurt. It hurts to watch. Like, when you see...

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will arnett alex novak when you see him with

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his two sons and then you find out that they're

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sleeping in his bed because it's the most comfortable

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and he's sleeping on the couch he's still sacrificing

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and we never really find out like they don't

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fight they're not like doing the yelling at each

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other and this and that we never really get too

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deep into what caused all this yeah well and

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It's only when they kind of start to rekindle

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passion for each other to have the sort of post

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-separation affair. Yeah. Again, I don't know

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what other couples go through when they go through

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separations. And I wonder how common it is to

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kind of go through a, like, we can't quite let

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each other go. There's still that passion there.

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Or being separated somehow rekindles the passion

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because then it's a little bit like recording

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each other. And there's that going on. But it

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was when that happened that they started to fight

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it out. They start kind of hashing out their

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history a little bit more. And you see them kind

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of talk about things that are, I think, really

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relatable to everybody in the audience watching,

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which is at what point did we make it the other

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person's responsibility to make us happy? And

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then at what point in a marriage when it's just

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kind of it's easier to just kind of live your

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life than to keep. trying to get to know the

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other person through all the changes and transformations

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that two people can have in a lifetime you know

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you think you know that person because you met

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them and married them but we become new people

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every year every day every 10 years you know

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whatever the cycles are Are we still doing the

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work or making the effort to know that person

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that we're married to? I love that you say that

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you've been married. You've been in three marriages

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all to the same person because it's true. Like

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that's we change. And if you don't change with

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your mate as they change, then something's off

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and something's amiss. I have been married before

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and divorced. And that was so long ago. Let's

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just say that if. me and her were to meet today,

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we probably no, no attraction, probably nothing.

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You know, it's like, oh, I'm a different person

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now. She's a different person. That was a different

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life. We didn't grow together. So I can see that.

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Do you ever feel like these multi hyphenated

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Hollywood setups, you know, how it's got Arnett

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hyphen Dern hyphen Cooper. Do you ever feel like

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the ones with these big names and stuff? It's

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either going to be a masterpiece or a very, public

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therapy session and because i'm leaning towards

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the latter and i mean that in the best possible

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way bradley cooper has a knack for finding the

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broken and beautiful people and put it on the

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screen like this yeah he's directing will arnett

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and laura dern broken people you could you could

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say it either way right Absolutely. Beauty in

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the brokenness of these characters, you know,

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these flaws and these conflicts and these not

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just relationship conflicts, but like inner conflict.

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Yes. Like Alex Novak, Will Arnett's character

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going through as he's discovering himself through

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stand up comedy, through going to open something

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he probably never would have done when he was

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married and with his wife. You know, like he

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would never tried stand up comedy, this character.

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But he's like. whoa, what is this? What am I

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feeling? What am I discovering about myself?

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I'm getting on stage and having like therapy

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on stage. That's what it was. Yeah, that's what

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it was. And I've been in that position of where

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Alex was, that feeling like you're going through

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a divorce. His name gets called and he's like,

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fuck it, man. I'll do it. I've been there where

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it's like you got nothing to lose. What's the

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worst that happened? You get up there and. people

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boo you and tell you they don't like you and

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you get off set. Like, you're not making me feel

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any different than I already was. So who cares?

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Right. I mean, it's like right now he's going

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through this really, you know, big life event

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that's changing everything he thinks he knows

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about himself, about life, about what he thought

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happiness was going to be, all these things.

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So you're right. Like, the biggest fear that

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a comic might have getting up on stage and trying

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to be funny and to be, you know, a successful

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comic is, I want to make people laugh. I don't

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want to bomb. But he's like, I don't care if

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I bomb. You know? Like, who cares about that?

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My marriage is over. Like, that's so much bigger.

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Yeah. And I love it. I love it. I love the fact

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that, you know, he takes this. Takes it on. Like,

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that's a huge challenge for your name to get

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called and go up to an open mic for something

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that you really just came into the bar to get

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a drink. You know, like that's, it takes a lot

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to do that. He didn't want to pay the cover charge.

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Yeah, he didn't want to pay the cover charge.

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Bradley Cooper directing Will Arnett and Laura

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Dern feels like putting a shot of espresso into

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a glass of wine and then shaking it up. It shouldn't

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work. But you can't stop looking at it. We can't

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stop paying attention to what they're doing on

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the screen. And I mean, the title itself is this

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thing on as a universal cry of the misunderstood.

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Think about how many times you hear that, whether

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you're podcasting in our basement here or a movie

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star on set. We're all just asking if the connection

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is real. That's what is this thing on really

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means. Is the connection real? Am I connected?

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Do you hear me? Is this thing on? I feel that

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every single day with three boys chasing them

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around all day and my husband and everybody having

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their own self -interest. They all have an objective

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in their mind of what's going on and what they

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need to get done and how they are pursuing happiness.

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you know comes to be the theme at the end is

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like how how individually are we pursuing what's

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right for us and meeting our needs but then we're

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like connected in this family unit i'm constantly

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chasing my kids around being like is this thing

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on is anybody listening what about me is what

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i find myself saying a lot they don't pay attention

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to they need something you ever notice that that's

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a whole other topic but yeah Eye on the prize.

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What can I get out of this situation? And that,

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you know, that's hard. Relationships are hard,

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whether it's a spouse, your children, just trying

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to navigate all of that. I absolutely loved getting

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to watch this movie after I listened to, I mentioned

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Smart List because that's what I found out about

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the movie. Will Arnett is one of the hosts of

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Smartless and Sean Hayes actually has a small

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part in this movie too, which I loved. He's fantastic

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too. But they had Laura Dern on as a guest. So

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the conversation of how the two of them worked

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with Bradley Cooper and how they connected during

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the filming of this. And to hear them talk about

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how intimate it was, it really was exactly like

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what you described. It's like these actors were

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getting to go through a therapeutic experience

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through these characters because there was a

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deeper level of intimacy between Will Arnett

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and Laura Dern. They have like this newfound

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deep connection with each other. It's not romantic.

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It's still a working relationship, you know,

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the two actors working together. To play these

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parts together, it's just incredible to see how

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that interwove into it. Yeah, and I love that

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Will Arnett, he's the king of the lovable jerk

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with a soul made of glass. Like, we know him

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for the voice, the swagger, the arrested development

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ego. But Bradley Cooper strips all that away

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and still shows you another side of Will Arnett

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that I'm not used to. And we also get to see

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the seedy underbelly of the comedy world. Yeah.

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And that's real. These people doing these open

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mics and going from one to the next to the next

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in a big city, that's real. I've worked with

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some comedians before. One of our buddies is

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one, still is, Ben Brown. And, yeah, this is

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a hustle on top of a hustle already. There's

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so much going on in this movie. That just makes

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it feel so real. It really does hit. It sticks

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with you. And that's all a credit to Bradley

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Cooper, if you ask me. Laura Dern, by the way,

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in the news, she's joining the cast of The White

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Lotus. Oh, that's a great fit. There you go.

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So I wanted to mention that. Laura Dern. She's

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not incredible. Was it Big Little Lies that she

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did with Nicole Kidman and Reese Witherspoon?

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Oh, my gosh. Her playing that character was so

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next level. Just next level. I read the book

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before I watched that TV series, and she just

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hit the nail on the head. Oh, she's incredible.

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Absolutely incredible. And let's talk about the

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scene with Peyton Manning. Walk us through that

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scene and what you were thinking, Coco. That

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was interesting. I was watching it again with

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my husband. You guys have to remember, we're

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not sports people, okay? But you know Peyton

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Manning. You know who he is. I did. My husband

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was like... what is that, Brent Favre? I was

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like, no, that's Peyton Manning. Even I know

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who that is. No, yeah, playing a character, you

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know, and getting to talk to Laura Dern's character,

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Tess, about, and she plays this Olympic volleyball

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athlete, and that, you know, really kind of becomes

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a real central part of her character of, like,

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finding a new identity and she talks about in

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the fight that they have about how she's like

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you never saw me past the olympic athlete you

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know i retired from that and then i tried to

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and then there was all the years we were trying

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to conceive and trying to raise kids and be a

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mom and how hard that was for me to leave that

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identity behind and figure out who i was after

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that and she felt like he is the husband abandoned

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her through that and now she's stepping into

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a role of I think I'm going to get back into

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it, but I'm going to be coaching now. And that's

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a different. What is that going to be like? And

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so Peyton Manning plays a character, Laird, who

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is a friend of theirs that knows both of them,

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Alex and Tess. But they have dinner as kind of

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a business meeting, supposedly. She finds out

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he's now single and he finds out she's now single.

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And, you know, maybe there's a little bit of

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a date spark going on there right at the end.

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But I think it was interesting that scene because.

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It gave Tessa's character an opportunity. She

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was asking questions about, like, what's it going

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to feel like to be back in the sport but not

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as an athlete? And he lets her know it's going

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to be hard. Like, that's a different identity

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that you have to take on. But you're going to

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love it, too. Like, it's going to be this whole

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other opening for you to, you know, discover

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who you are in this new setting. And I just think

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that that was really an important scene. It was

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the catalyst to her and him going to the bar

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that ends up being the same place that Alex is

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doing his stand -up. So that's how the cat gets

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out of the bag and she finds out what he's been

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doing this all along. But it was interesting

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to see Peyton Manning in sort of a, like, you

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know, it's a lot like his natural self, but adjacent.

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Yeah. His athletic character. I've always loved

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Peyton Manning. Listen, I've got a crazy story.

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I went to University of Tennessee and my roommate,

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his older brother, was roommates with Peyton

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in Knoxville. And Peyton gave him a pair of his

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shoes and signed them. And we had them up on

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our mantle in our college dorm room. And when

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the alcohol would get to flow in a little too

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much, those shoes would usually end up on my

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feet or somebody else's feet in the house. And

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our roommate would get so pissed off. But, yeah,

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I've always loved Peyton. I have always loved

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Peyton. And rest in peace, Keenan Lucky. That

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was the guy's name. He died of COVID a couple

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years ago. Hard battle. But, yeah, that was a

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crazy story. Let's talk about the cinematography

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because there's a lot of this, like, and this

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is what made it gritty was these close -ups.

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It's almost Giallo style, like, you know, an

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Argento movie from back in the 70s or something.

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It's something like that. That's Bradley Cooper.

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He's obsessed with the cost of being a creator.

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Think about A Star is Born or Maestro. He is

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great at dragging. I don't want to say dragging,

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but this movie is a hard watch. He's dragging

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the viewer in and making you watch this. Yeah,

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making you really face it. It was really symbolic,

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I think, of taking a good hard look. Yes. At

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yourself. You know, like, sometimes it's not

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pretty. Sometimes it's real close. That's kind

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of what it felt like to me with all the close

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-ups. Because you're like, yeah, I love watching

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Will Arnett on screen doing his thing. No problem.

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Laura Dern, sure. Yeah, all that. It's great.

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But it does get a little uncomfortable when you're,

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like, that close. Like, the camera is just circling

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around. I'm just... I'm also thinking about how

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that must have been like for the actors to act.

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You think that the camera was close where they

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just had to kind of like look past it? Not for

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these professionals, not for a Laura Dern, Will

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Arnett, Bradley Cooper. I don't think so. And

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that's probably why this movie was so well acted

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is because they were able to ignore. Yeah. The

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cameras and the set and whatever was going on.

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They just passed it to a whole room of people

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or whatever. And this camera is circling real

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close. And a lot of this was not on a set. Exactly.

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But a lot of this was not even on a set. You

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know, they're in the streets. They're in the

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comedy club. They're in New York City. So that

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gives it some more realistic vibe, too. And the

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close -up cameras, I don't think it bothered

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any of them. Bradley Cooper's character balls.

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Let's talk about him before we get out of here.

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Let's do. I think, and this is going to be way

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out there, but I think Balls needs his own movie.

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We need to see more of this character. I thought

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he was great. We all know a person in our, if

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not immediate circle, past circle of ours, that

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we had a Balls in our life. Am I right? Did you

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have a Balls, Coco? A couple of them? I think

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there were several. I look back at college days

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when I was first married and all the group of

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friends that we had back home. And, you know,

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we've stayed in touch a little bit here and there,

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but sometimes I look back at the way that we

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were back then and I go, ugh. Ugh. Yeah. You

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know, you can love him and also be like, what

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an idiot. Just a little bit difficult to be around

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sometimes because, I mean, Ball shows a character

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that's, like, a little self -obsessed. You know,

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one of those guys who... Maybe he used to wear

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his sunglasses upside down on the back of his

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head. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah,

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you got me concerned over here now thinking that

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maybe I was the guy. Very possible. It's very

00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:47.980
possible it could have been. Yeah, but I love

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that this movie. Yeah, this movie seems to be

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about the performance of life. And that's going

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back to the, I think they ignored the cameras.

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I think they were just living. They knew their

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roles, they knew their characters, they knew

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who they were supposed to be, and they weren't

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Will Arnett, Laura Dern, Bradley Cooper. They

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were these people on screen. Now, was a little

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bit of them, the real them, coming out? Probably.

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Probably. And I think that the title is this

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thing, you know, Bradley Cooper's poking fun.

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At the very industry, he's dominating. It's meta,

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maybe a bit rebellious, but that's exactly the

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kind of frequency we like to stay on right here.

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We don't even know what this movie was. Was it

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a comedy, a tragedy, a tromedy? Don't know. I

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feel like the era that we've gotten into in the

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past decade, probably, is less and less separation

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of genres. I mean, you've got like the horror

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comedies, the horror dramas. You've got, you

00:23:48.690 --> 00:23:52.549
know, this is like a dark comedy. Like it's dramatic.

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It's very deep. It goes down to some really real

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human. inner workings and psychological thought

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processes, and then you have moments that just

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make you laugh out loud. Sean Hayes and his husband

00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:12.680
in the cast, when they're all at Oyster Bay in

00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:15.759
the friend group, and midnight, it's like 2 a

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.m., and they're in the kitchen getting ice cream

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out and trying to wake everybody up. I remember

00:24:21.059 --> 00:24:23.519
them joking about that on Smartless, and Will

00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.299
Arnett says to Sean Hayes, well, that's just

00:24:26.299 --> 00:24:29.380
your real self. That wasn't playing a character.

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You just do that. Eat ice cream at midnight.

00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:34.460
Yeah. What's your final thoughts on Is This Thing

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On? If you haven't watched it, please do because

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it's fantastic. It's a fantastic, like, to me,

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if I was to take a visual of what this movie

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is, it's kind of like a spider web. Yeah. Like,

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you know, here is, like, the basic plot and the

00:24:50.819 --> 00:24:53.619
basic characters, but there's this interconnectedness

00:24:53.619 --> 00:24:58.539
of... past, present, and future of friend groups

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and relationships and familial relationships,

00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:05.440
you know, the spouse, the kids, all of that.

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There's, like, not just the conflict that's happening

00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:12.880
between the characters, but also each character,

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even, like, Christine and Balls, their marriage

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and what's going on with them. You have these

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moments where you see the inner workings of their

00:25:20.940 --> 00:25:24.380
conflict, too. Really, it's not about their conflict

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with someone else, but what are they dealing

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with internally, too? Yeah. We've all got that

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going on. That's why it's so realistic. That's

00:25:32.220 --> 00:25:34.920
why it's so real. We watch this movie and we

00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:39.799
go, oh, this is us. This is all of us. I think

00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:42.220
that's why it hits. I think that's why it hits.

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It's because in real life, we're all on all the

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time. Social media, work calls, family dinners.

00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:54.779
always checking if our mic is working, if our

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persona is landing. That's why this movie resonates.

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It's not about the famous people. It's about

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the exhaustion of being seen, perceived. Seriously,

00:26:05.940 --> 00:26:09.259
think about that. How much of your day is spent

00:26:09.259 --> 00:26:14.640
making sure this thing, the thing is on? Yeah.

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That's scary. That's sad. A lot of energy. Go

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watch this movie if I haven't seen it already.

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I thought it was incredible. You know what time

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it is now, though? It's Freaky Friday also. And

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this one's going to be real short today because...

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We got into it. We got a lot of comments and

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they're all about one thing. And it was the F1

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Brad Pitt getting in the car. And everybody came

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at me. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. Get your

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facts right. Get this right. He was in an F2

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car. He wasn't in the F1. He didn't race in real

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race. I don't care. Look, he was in a race car,

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okay? Brad Pitt got into a race car and drove

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a race car. I don't care what kind it was. Okay.

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And he did it, and that's more than most people

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have done. So there's our Freaky Friday for the

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day. Brad Pitt got into a race car. I've cleared

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up. I've made amends. I hope that's good for

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the freaks out there. It's good enough for me.

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Good enough for you, Coco? Good enough for me.

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Yeah. I'm just playing. She's Coco. You're the

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freaks, and this is Parallel Frequencies. We'll

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see you on the other side.