Why I Call Myself a Witch | Practically Magick

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Hello and welcome to Practically Magic. We are

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here in season four. We did it. And I am recording

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back in the cave, my favorite place to record.

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So welcome back to the cave. All right, friends,

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we've got a lot to get to it today. Today's episode

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is going to be all about the word. Witch I'm

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gonna throw some educational things at you and

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then we're gonna discuss a little bit because

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I actually want to know from you witches and

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wizards What you feel about the word which what

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comes up for you before we get into it. We have

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to do our Card pull and I've got the good old

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ethereal vision stack ready today. We're gonna

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be pulling a card for whatever You need to know

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at this moment in time, we're gonna trust that

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this card, whether you're listening to it when

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this episode comes out or at any time, it is

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meant for you. As I'm getting ready to pull this

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card, friends, we've been discussing kind of

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the turn of the wheel of the year, what's coming

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up for a lot of us and... The energies have been

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insane. I trust my astrologer to tell me what

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is going on with the planets because I know we

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were Mercury in retrograde is just getting ready

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to be done. And it was chaotic. I read somewhere

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something like Jupiter is moving into Leo, which

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is the fire sign and all kinds of things are

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going on. But all I know All I can sense and

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tell you is that my kids have been insane. And

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it is summer. It's chaotic. I'm trying to juggle

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a million things. So getting to record the podcast

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is almost like a little break in the day for

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me. So if you've been feeling a lot of those

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shifts in energy, just know you're not alone.

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And hopefully we will start to come out of it.

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I think it's kind of like the universe's way

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of tapping into the cycles of summer. And we

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talked about Litha in one of the previous episodes

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about how it's just like slow down, take it easy,

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maybe take a few things off your plate. And that's

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kind of the message that keeps coming to me when

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it's like, you're trying to do too much in a

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time or a cycle that's meant for just wait and

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see energy. Okay. The card that I have pulled

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today, of all the shuffling I did, I got the

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High Priestess. Love that girl. Love that High

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Priestess. She's gorgeous. So what I love about

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this is it's very demure. The High Priestess,

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she's one with at least... A lot of the ways

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that she's portrayed is high collar, she has

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a book in her hand in this deck and sort of like

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a level of respect and respectability. And actually

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this is perfect because I was just listening

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to, earlier this morning I was listening to the

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interview that Amy Poehler did on her podcast

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with John Cena, my co -host on Parallel Frequencies.

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Just Blaine was a wrestler, loves John Cena,

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so he would get a kick out of it. But some of

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the words of wisdom from John Cena about his

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kind of advice on how not to fail was really

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interesting because I love the way he worded

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it where he said, you know, I don't have the

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keys to success. I don't know if I could tell

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you exactly how to succeed, but I can tell you

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how you would fail, that if you are unprofessional,

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uncoachable, uninvested, you will most certainly

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fail 100 % of the time. And I thought what wise

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words from somebody who had a career like him

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where he was very successful, very well loved.

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He has a good heart, a good soul of a person

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who's done a lot of good in the world and charitable

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acts. So he's proven himself to kind of, maybe

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he says he doesn't know the key to success, but

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I don't know if there's a lot of people that

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could claim themselves to be as successful as

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John Cena is, but it's interesting that I listened

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out this morning and then I'm pulling the high

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priestess card and that's my first thought is

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thinking about how a very professional, very

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demure, very kind of like putting the sovereignty

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on your own head, your own crown to say, I know

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what I'm doing and I'm moving forward. I think

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a lot of people feel stuck right now. So if that's

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something that you've been feeling or we've been

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kind of going through the muck of that together,

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feeling unmotivated, I think that this card coming

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forward for us today is like a message of sit

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with that. uh, learn the lessons that that has

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to bring. And then, you know, that good old saying,

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put your crown or your tiara back on, lift your

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chin and lift your, lift your shoulders back

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and get to work. It's kind of a, um, it's motivating,

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especially if you've been in that stuck energy.

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So we're going to keep the high priestess in

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mind as we go forward with our, uh, episode today,

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I'm excited to talk to you about that, about

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the word witch, because we've talked about the

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witch trials in season one and season two of

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Practically Magic. We've kind of delved into

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a little bit of that. And I just want to reiterate

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that, you know, whatever terms or language that

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happens to be used when connecting with spirituality

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and finding your own your own route your own

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path and the titles you would rather use when

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it comes to How you address yourself how you

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present yourself and that's totally personal

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and that's totally up to you but I have been

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Sticking my heels in more and more lately, especially

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in the particular demographic of people that

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I live around Here in I will just say it We live

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where it's a predominantly Mormon society and

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it is a place that was founded and settled by

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Mormon pioneers. And I am recording this episode

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on the week of Pioneer Day. So we're going to

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talk a little bit about all of that. And because

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of that, I know that there are a lot of sticky

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points when it comes to the word witch. And so

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I'm gonna tell you some of my personal examples

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and this is not to judge anybody or to call anybody

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out on things that were said to me or done, but

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in hoping that we bring awareness to not everybody

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feels the same way about something and that it

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actually could be reversely offensive to treat

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it as if it is a certain way. little bit of history

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as we go through this which coming from old English

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words like wicca or wicca um kind of came about

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talking about magic talking about sorcery talking

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about knowledgeable people who had this kind

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of old old school wisdom there is um some etymology

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etymologists, tracing back the roots of the word

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which to German, there's a German word and I

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am not going to be able to pronounce this correctly,

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but I apologize to anyone who speaks German.

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Something that sounds like wichel or wichel,

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which relates to bending and shaping of reality.

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And reading about this, I'm really intrigued

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because so much of what I teach in the healing

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world and some of the episodes we've done here

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on Practically Magic talk about how the real

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and true magic isn't maybe as sparkly as Hollywood

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would have you believe, but that it is bending

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and shaping reality based on our own neural pathways,

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based on how we are changing the perspectives

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and noticing things that we haven't previously.

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been noticing. And that's really kind of what

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the magic is. So I love going back to that kind

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of early etymology of the word. Of course, we

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know that in the medieval times, medieval shift,

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when Christianity started to spread more and

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more throughout the world, there became a great

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fear of certain things being devil worship. We

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kind of see this shift in folklore and fairy

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tale tellings where we get stories like Red Riding

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Hood. And a lot of these stories show that things

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that were wild, things that are of nature or

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are natural are demonized and villainized in

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the story. So the dark forest, there's always

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a villain of some kind lurking in the dark forest.

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And what would have previously been stories and

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lessons taught to children, which would have

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been to respect that danger. respect the balance

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of nature, that the goddess or the goddess archetype

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in a lot of folklore and storytelling had to

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do with the balance of predator and prey. That

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yes, the woods, the forest, the wild, natural...

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elements are and can be dangerous, but they're

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also to be respected and revered and held as

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sacred. So getting to be in those spaces, getting

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to go and engage with the trees and the plants

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to understand that there are nature spirits like

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the Fay folk who you respect and leave offerings

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and you don't go trancing through acting like

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you own the place. That would have been the previous

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kind of lessons of those folklore, those fairy

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tales told to kids. And then we see this shift

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where it's just like the devil is in the forest.

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And you see that when the witch trials do start

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happening because if Usually women, and we're

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gonna get a lot to that. We're gonna talk a lot

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about that today. Usually women were accused

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of being witches. They would have evidence of

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them being a witch because they spent time in

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the woods or they were recluse or they were,

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you know, maybe a little bit ostracized from

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society in some way. And so a lot of the victims

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of the witch trials were being accused of a witch

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had to do with whether they were women. in poverty,

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whether they made a fuss in any way, shape or

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form, spoke their opinions too much, caused problems

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for the men in power. There was a pattern of

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who was accused of being a witch. But you see

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this for centuries happening where the word witch

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was changed into something that meant in their

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minds, devil worship that meant something connected

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to nature or the wild or the herbs or healing

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in any of those ways would be then also coincide

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with devil, the devil, just as nature itself

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was. And, you know, just a little side note about

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some of the things that we see in modern day.

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And how this plays a part is even things that

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are natural, like homosexuality or fluid genders

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or trans or anything, you know, that the Christians

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would peg as unnatural. We know now, I mean,

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we know scientifically we've proven these are

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actually natural things. There are. Animals in

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the wild was same -sex attraction that pair up

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and meet, you know, we see it all the time. Gender

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is fluid. Gender isn't necessarily something

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that is a, that is a, it's a social construct,

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you know, among the animal kingdom as well as

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in human nature. But again, we're using the term

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natural and kind of pegging it as unnatural or

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we're demonizing it with that Christian influence.

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And I'm going to get a little bit into that power

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play between Christian and paganism, but I just

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want to point that out because I think that's

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very interesting. as we continue to look at what

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is actually natural in the world and what sort

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of campaign are we still sort of biased we still

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have from that centuries -old campaign where

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we were decided you know as Christianity spread

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across the earth they were like we're gonna go

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ahead and demonize things that are actually natural

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and part of the natural world. So we kind of

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get into it as we look at like what happened

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in those, you know, 15th, 16th centuries where,

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you know, King James came out with his book about

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demonology and witch hunting and witchcraft.

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And of course we demonized a lot of the work

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being done by women. And this is where we get

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into my personal connection with the word witch

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because witches And as I've said before, in Wales,

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they don't really have a word for which they

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have cunning women and cunning men. The Swinryg

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was a cunning woman who knew about medicines

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and helped people, had some knowledge about the

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folklore and about the fae folk and about magic

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and about talismans and charms and things that

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were useful and helpful in the community. And

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in a lot of maybe pre -Christian civilizations,

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these were revered women. These were an honored

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position to have was the person in the community

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who knew that stuff and had the knowledge passed

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down to them probably from their mother or grandmother

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and served a very important role in the community.

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And isn't it interesting that when Christianity

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started to spread, it was also a very patriarchal

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society that was developed from that, and that

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women being able to provide for themselves with

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this knowledge, be able to conduct business or

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trade or to be cared for with this position of

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witch, of course, to demonize it would be to

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take away her livelihood and make her controllable.

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Not just the witches but all of the women in

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general all of the society as a whole men women

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everyone as We went from a feudalist system into

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a capitalist system. It became not so much about

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You know the the work being done or the society

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working together as a whole to create What the

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community needed? everyone playing the part that

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they could play and being respected for the part

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that they could play in that small community,

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even if it was above a aristocrat or a lord over

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them. Obviously that's problematic in many ways

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as well. But we sort of shifted into a society

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where now it's about capitalism and the control

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over the people was really important. So we have

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then, you know, people basically owning other

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people and making sure that they stay in their

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place, as it were. So women have always been

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below men on that hierarchical system. You know,

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you have the systems in place where the people,

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the rich and powerful, yes, they have the power

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over everybody, but in general, whether it was

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the church, the pope and the bishops and the

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cardinals and the, you know, those with authority,

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spiritually, in the family unit, it would be

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the man first and then the women and children

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underneath that. And we see that still playing

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out a lot in Christian upbringings. And I'm not

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demonizing Christianity here while we're getting

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into it, because I have some things to say about

00:17:45.930 --> 00:17:49.250
that as well. But it is something to note that

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with the spread of those ideas came the demonizing

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of witches. it took away women's power to be

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able to have a livelihood that they could then

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support themselves with. The word spinsters even

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comes from the fact that a lot of the women that

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didn't marry, the only way that they could provide

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for themselves was to spin yarn. because even

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in there as they aged, they would be able to

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physically continue to spin yarn and provide

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for themselves to sell the yarn. And that was

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one of the only ways that women were allowed,

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as it were, to provide for themselves or to contribute

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to society in any way other than being a wife

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and mother. So all of this to say as we're coming

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around to it is that We like to act like the

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witch hunts and demonizing witches and things

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like that are a thing of the past. When in fact,

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it's still very much happens and that we still

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live in a patriarchal society. And especially

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in America, we are threatened every day with

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the separation of church and state not being

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so much of a separation and to be forced into

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Christian nationalism. And we're seeing sort

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of like court cases where tarot is illegal in

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certain states. And I know a woman, I think in

00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:18.920
Pennsylvania, I read a story about how she was

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being taken to court because she owns a little

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metaphysical shop and she reads tarot in a state

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where there had been laws against it and she's

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fighting against that. This is again a way for

00:19:31.269 --> 00:19:34.269
a woman to provide for herself with her gifts

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and talents and abilities and the government

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is trying to shut that down. So they are harassed

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in a lot of places. The more that we keep reiterating

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and re -establishing this idea that witchcraft

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or paganism or anything in that realm is of the

00:20:01.309 --> 00:20:05.589
devil. It is against God or it is against the

00:20:05.589 --> 00:20:08.609
Bible or it is against whatever the Christian

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beliefs are that if we keep going down that road,

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we are going to be so sorely against each other.

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And this is where I would like to bring up and

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have brought up in my own community the idea

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that the word witch didn't start out as something

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evil at all. That in fact, many of us, whatever

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our religious beliefs are, would be considered

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a witch. So I do energy healing work. Obviously,

00:20:42.029 --> 00:20:45.369
you know, I own Prism Healing and I do a form

00:20:45.369 --> 00:20:48.589
of integrative processing technique that I learned

00:20:48.589 --> 00:20:52.190
at the Institute of Healing Arts. It was a very

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rigorous year -long program to learn how to do

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this modality of healing. It is considered energy

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work rather than therapy, although a lot of therapy

00:21:01.630 --> 00:21:06.130
modalities have kind of adopted and integrated

00:21:06.130 --> 00:21:09.799
with that. modality of energy healing as well.

00:21:10.660 --> 00:21:14.059
But what's interesting is that the place and

00:21:14.059 --> 00:21:16.079
people that I learned this from are predominantly

00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:21.259
Mormon, LDS, Latter Day Saints. And there was

00:21:21.259 --> 00:21:24.420
some talks at the time I was at the school of

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the church being against any form of healing

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that wasn't medically professional, or if it

00:21:35.660 --> 00:21:39.880
was spiritual wellness, that it was sought directly

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to your church authority, which is always a man,

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by the way. Only men can hold the priesthood

00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:51.200
in the LDS church. So roughly, there was some

00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:55.099
conversation at the school, especially with the

00:21:55.099 --> 00:21:58.740
woman who founded the school because she is LDS

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and what she felt about that. I know you have

00:22:03.539 --> 00:22:06.180
to do some mental gymnastics sometimes to be

00:22:06.180 --> 00:22:10.579
able to justify, but basically her take on it

00:22:10.579 --> 00:22:14.359
at the time was, I know the work I am doing is

00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:17.079
God's work, and so I am going to continue doing

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it. And that's where she kind of landed on that.

00:22:21.740 --> 00:22:24.119
I don't think she was willing to go so far as

00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:28.039
to say, well, screw those guys up in the higher.

00:22:28.619 --> 00:22:30.380
rings of the church, they're going to say what

00:22:30.380 --> 00:22:34.700
I do is bad and I don't care. But she did take

00:22:34.700 --> 00:22:39.740
a stand on backing her work. And what's interesting

00:22:39.740 --> 00:22:42.480
about that is I know that a lot of those people

00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:46.259
still going to church and still doing that who

00:22:46.259 --> 00:22:50.339
do reiki energy healing, who do, they're really

00:22:50.339 --> 00:22:55.859
open to a lot of these ideas of energy and things

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that are available to us in the natural world

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that can actually offer us a lot. And what they

00:23:03.180 --> 00:23:07.599
wouldn't do, I know, is call it witchcraft. And

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I do. And here's where we're gonna get into it,

00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:14.279
really get into it, okay? We've been circling

00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:18.079
around it, but I'm gonna say it. lot of people

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in this state and then probably in many other

00:23:20.599 --> 00:23:22.859
states and places around the world are very much

00:23:22.859 --> 00:23:25.619
opening up and awakening to the idea that there

00:23:25.619 --> 00:23:30.059
is more ways to heal breathwork and sound healing

00:23:30.059 --> 00:23:34.980
and All of it is now being legitimized and backed

00:23:34.980 --> 00:23:38.769
by science Which is awesome. We're having all

00:23:38.769 --> 00:23:41.349
these new findings. They're doing cancer research

00:23:41.349 --> 00:23:46.130
with Reiki practitioners and showing improvement,

00:23:46.369 --> 00:23:50.170
showing actual results of healing work. People

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how they're feeling going through cancer treatment

00:23:52.269 --> 00:23:55.369
or in that their cancer is actually going into

00:23:55.369 --> 00:23:58.130
remission more often with Reiki being involved.

00:23:59.430 --> 00:24:01.970
And so it's legitimizing the work and that's

00:24:01.970 --> 00:24:06.599
awesome and that's great. So why is it different

00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:10.460
than witchcraft? And I'm here to say I don't

00:24:10.460 --> 00:24:14.460
think it is. I think that we just have such a

00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:17.740
bias against those words that people get really

00:24:17.740 --> 00:24:20.759
uncomfortable and prickly when I use words like,

00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:24.980
it's witchcraft. You're setting intentions. You're

00:24:24.980 --> 00:24:28.039
performing a ritual. You're doing hands -on healing,

00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:33.240
which is what Jesus did. It's all part of the

00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.400
same work. using the same processes that somebody

00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:40.380
who engages in witchcraft does. When crafting

00:24:40.380 --> 00:24:43.819
a spell, you're using words for intention, you're

00:24:43.819 --> 00:24:48.259
using herbs and stones and whatever objects and

00:24:48.259 --> 00:24:52.420
tools that are going to help you set that intention.

00:24:53.740 --> 00:24:56.500
In the last episode, we talked about the three

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pillars of magic and how to engage with it and

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I use words, will and way. And I go into depth

00:25:03.910 --> 00:25:06.710
with those in previous episodes in season one.

00:25:07.289 --> 00:25:12.490
But what I'm here to say is that the effort to

00:25:12.490 --> 00:25:17.450
go into prayer or to study things that help the

00:25:17.450 --> 00:25:21.150
human race in any way, to dedicate your life

00:25:21.150 --> 00:25:24.690
to it, to practice it in your daily life, that

00:25:24.690 --> 00:25:29.700
is being a witch. Even if someone else wouldn't

00:25:29.700 --> 00:25:33.880
like calling themselves that. So I have, over

00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.059
the last couple of years, decided to dig my heels

00:25:37.059 --> 00:25:39.779
into that word and to say, you know what, I could

00:25:39.779 --> 00:25:42.759
call myself a priestess, that's accurate. I can

00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:45.700
call myself a lot of different things, a swindler,

00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.460
and I love all the names for different reasons,

00:25:49.460 --> 00:25:53.660
but if it really comes down to it, and if we

00:25:53.660 --> 00:25:56.299
really want to pinpoint one word that sums it

00:25:56.299 --> 00:26:01.160
all up, in energy healing work, in the studying,

00:26:01.259 --> 00:26:04.759
the work that I do, in tarot readings, in everything

00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:08.619
that I do, which is probably the perfect word

00:26:08.619 --> 00:26:11.559
for who I am and what I do. And I'm actually

00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.299
very proud to use that word in a long line of

00:26:15.299 --> 00:26:18.180
women who were not allowed to use that word,

00:26:18.420 --> 00:26:24.019
who would have fought anybody to not be called

00:26:24.019 --> 00:26:30.220
that word and to have been burned or hung because

00:26:30.220 --> 00:26:34.700
they were accused of being that word. I feel

00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:38.700
like it's my reclamation of that word. And if

00:26:38.700 --> 00:26:42.700
I call someone a witch in my life, it is a compliment

00:26:42.700 --> 00:26:46.740
and an honor to be a witch. I saw the acronym

00:26:46.740 --> 00:26:52.380
woman in total control of herself is an acronym

00:26:52.380 --> 00:26:56.210
for which and I thought All of those women in

00:26:56.210 --> 00:26:59.289
our past, in our history that were accused of

00:26:59.289 --> 00:27:02.650
being a witch, accused of witchcraft and devil

00:27:02.650 --> 00:27:06.009
worship and selling their soul to the devil and

00:27:06.009 --> 00:27:08.309
making a pact with the devil, all those things,

00:27:09.049 --> 00:27:14.130
most of them were just women in total control

00:27:14.130 --> 00:27:17.890
of themselves. They were trying to earn a living

00:27:17.890 --> 00:27:20.089
they were trying to help their community they

00:27:20.089 --> 00:27:23.589
were trying to speak up they were trying to be

00:27:23.589 --> 00:27:26.849
a voice for people who were voiceless they were

00:27:26.849 --> 00:27:29.430
standing up for themselves in a lot of cases

00:27:29.430 --> 00:27:33.750
they didn't do anything wrong and if doing all

00:27:33.750 --> 00:27:37.410
of those things makes you a witch then yeah i'm

00:27:37.410 --> 00:27:39.769
a witch and i'm honored to do it here i am with

00:27:39.769 --> 00:27:42.710
a microphone in my face calling myself a witch

00:27:42.710 --> 00:27:45.529
and calling all of you a witch And I'm asking

00:27:45.529 --> 00:27:49.250
you to join me. Now, I stood up in some networking

00:27:49.250 --> 00:27:52.890
meetings and it got to a point where I had stood

00:27:52.890 --> 00:27:55.470
up and told people what I did and tried to explain

00:27:55.470 --> 00:27:58.990
energy work and tried to, you know, kind of for

00:27:58.990 --> 00:28:01.130
lack of a better term, sell myself. Like, hey,

00:28:01.150 --> 00:28:03.089
what I've got going here is something you could

00:28:03.089 --> 00:28:06.950
all benefit from. And, you know, you get your

00:28:06.950 --> 00:28:09.750
90 second or your 60 second pitches in those

00:28:09.750 --> 00:28:12.190
networking meetings and that's all you get. You

00:28:12.190 --> 00:28:14.190
have to present yourself in some certain way.

00:28:14.349 --> 00:28:18.009
That shows who you are. And I decided, screw

00:28:18.009 --> 00:28:20.009
it. I'm going to stand up and tell people who

00:28:20.009 --> 00:28:24.990
I am. I'm a witch. I am your local witch. You

00:28:24.990 --> 00:28:29.910
need something emotionally or healing, and I'm

00:28:29.910 --> 00:28:32.869
your girl. You want a card reading. You want

00:28:32.869 --> 00:28:36.930
to cleanse your spaces, your home, your land,

00:28:37.049 --> 00:28:39.970
your vehicle. I have that. I've got that for

00:28:39.970 --> 00:28:43.740
you. You want to know why you feel cursed? and

00:28:43.740 --> 00:28:45.960
you would like something to lift that curse?

00:28:47.220 --> 00:28:51.539
I'm your girl. I got you. And as I peruse Facebook

00:28:51.539 --> 00:28:55.339
and sometimes see the posts, and I'm part of

00:28:55.339 --> 00:28:58.279
a lot of different groups because I like to connect

00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.299
with people who are on a faith journey, meaning

00:29:01.299 --> 00:29:03.799
they're deconstructing their faith and learning

00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:06.700
how spirituality can look without those authority

00:29:06.700 --> 00:29:10.609
figures telling them how it should look. I'm

00:29:10.609 --> 00:29:13.630
in, you know, pagan groups. I'm in a witchcraft

00:29:13.630 --> 00:29:16.650
for beginners or witches for beginners group.

00:29:17.170 --> 00:29:19.390
And I get a lot of people asking questions that

00:29:19.390 --> 00:29:21.750
have to do with their lives. And they're questions

00:29:21.750 --> 00:29:25.789
like, um, I feel stuck. I don't know why I do

00:29:25.789 --> 00:29:30.289
what I do. I'd like to know. I'd like to, I need

00:29:30.289 --> 00:29:33.430
help. And, uh, you know, at first it was hard

00:29:33.430 --> 00:29:35.529
for me not to be one of those annoying people.

00:29:35.609 --> 00:29:37.390
You know, the ones who get on those Facebook

00:29:37.390 --> 00:29:40.130
groups and they're like, I do energy healing

00:29:40.130 --> 00:29:42.289
work. Do you want to have a session with me?

00:29:42.869 --> 00:29:44.849
It's really hard for me not to do that because

00:29:44.849 --> 00:29:47.710
I do know that I could help them, but I try to

00:29:47.710 --> 00:29:50.569
offer some bout of wisdom, something that, you

00:29:50.569 --> 00:29:53.089
know, you do what you do. There's a reason you

00:29:53.089 --> 00:29:57.410
do what you do. You're not, you're not abnormal.

00:29:57.829 --> 00:30:01.230
There's no shame in it. You just need some help

00:30:01.230 --> 00:30:08.029
figuring this out. And We're just full of people

00:30:08.029 --> 00:30:11.109
going through their, that's all of our community

00:30:11.109 --> 00:30:13.730
is full of people going through their stuff,

00:30:14.089 --> 00:30:18.589
right? And I just hope that one day I will be

00:30:18.589 --> 00:30:23.009
able to be seen. And I think in some ways I still,

00:30:23.009 --> 00:30:26.980
I, am already seen as a person that can be trusted,

00:30:27.180 --> 00:30:29.819
that I can be trusted with your stuff, that you

00:30:29.819 --> 00:30:32.400
don't have to sneak to my back door and rap on

00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.160
the window with a wad of dollar bills and asking

00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:38.359
for a spell, that you can come in my front door

00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:40.599
and you can come into my healing room and we

00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:44.359
will work on whatever it is that you need. And

00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.400
we can call it spells, we can call it prayers,

00:30:47.460 --> 00:30:51.160
we can call it whatever you want, but I do not

00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.640
shy away from calling it spells and witchcraft.

00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:56.440
Because I think it all is I don't think there's

00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.359
any difference in it. Really. I think that spells

00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.779
and witchcraft can look like a multitude of different

00:31:02.779 --> 00:31:05.799
varieties and and coming from a lot of different

00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:10.019
cultural backgrounds I Happen to be coming from

00:31:10.019 --> 00:31:11.759
a Celtic background. So a lot of the work that

00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.160
I do is going to be and in that space and in

00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.759
that venture Okay, so we've gotten to it witches

00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.160
your witches. I'm witches. I will say when I

00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.200
started to call myself that publicly and not

00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.200
be afraid and not shy away from it. I did have

00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:36.700
some people, some very, very positively minded,

00:31:37.500 --> 00:31:41.339
helpfully minded individuals, like I was saying

00:31:41.339 --> 00:31:44.579
before, no judgment. I know that they were doing

00:31:44.579 --> 00:31:48.539
it out of kindness, they thought. They reached

00:31:48.539 --> 00:31:50.400
out to me and they would try to give me advice

00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:54.519
because I was one time on a group chat and asking

00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.259
about a conference that someone was putting on

00:31:57.259 --> 00:31:59.920
and it was more for like business women like,

00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.160
you know, one of those like boss lady conference

00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:07.420
or yes queen, I don't know. One of those kind

00:32:07.420 --> 00:32:09.500
of conferences and I was looking at it and I

00:32:09.500 --> 00:32:11.140
was looking at the workshops and I thought, you

00:32:11.140 --> 00:32:13.640
know, this would be kind of interesting to kind

00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.900
of learn some of the things about running a business

00:32:15.900 --> 00:32:19.299
that can help me. And I asked the group chat,

00:32:19.299 --> 00:32:21.220
I was like, so what do you guys think? You guys

00:32:21.220 --> 00:32:24.259
know me. What do you think? You know my vibe.

00:32:24.779 --> 00:32:28.759
Would I be welcomed in a place like this? What

00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.420
do you guys think? And someone private messaged

00:32:31.420 --> 00:32:33.619
me and said, you know, like, I'll do respect,

00:32:33.819 --> 00:32:37.660
but sometimes it's the language you use that

00:32:37.660 --> 00:32:40.900
makes... makes you feel ostracized or makes you

00:32:40.900 --> 00:32:43.460
feel othered and she's like you know people are

00:32:43.460 --> 00:32:47.119
opening up to energy healing and words like energy

00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:50.119
healing is is a safe space for people in any

00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.359
religious background in any belief system they

00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.819
can they can open their mind up to yeah i i will

00:32:55.819 --> 00:32:58.579
try energy healing but i think sometimes you

00:32:58.579 --> 00:33:02.720
use words that um you know prickle people a bit

00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.420
and then they don't they don't give you a try

00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:08.849
and um it's hurting your business or it's hurting

00:33:08.849 --> 00:33:12.690
you and I said, you know, I really appreciate

00:33:12.690 --> 00:33:15.470
this was my response and I'm paraphrasing obviously

00:33:15.470 --> 00:33:17.549
I don't remember exact words of how this conversation

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went but they I said I Understand what you're

00:33:21.569 --> 00:33:23.509
saying and I really appreciate that you're trying

00:33:23.509 --> 00:33:28.210
to help me, but I spent a lot of years Warping

00:33:28.210 --> 00:33:31.829
myself and my brand into what I thought everybody

00:33:31.829 --> 00:33:36.410
would like me or have me be more approachable

00:33:36.410 --> 00:33:40.410
to everybody. And when I try to please everybody,

00:33:40.670 --> 00:33:43.990
I end up pleasing nobody, least of all myself.

00:33:44.650 --> 00:33:50.869
I wasn't true to myself. And I often tell people

00:33:50.869 --> 00:33:55.390
if I howl with the wolves, the right people who

00:33:55.390 --> 00:33:58.849
are meant to be with me, there will be people

00:33:58.849 --> 00:34:02.329
howling with me. The people who think it's weird,

00:34:02.910 --> 00:34:05.230
or uncomfortable or awkward to howl with the

00:34:05.230 --> 00:34:09.880
wolves. They won't. And that's okay. They don't

00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:15.280
speak my language. And so yes, language is very

00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:21.019
much an important thing to consider. But I decided

00:34:21.019 --> 00:34:24.440
it was better to be me and to show people who

00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:29.500
I am and to almost be an advocate for the word

00:34:29.500 --> 00:34:33.880
witch. If you hear me say I'm a witch and you

00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.460
immediately think I don't want to know that person,

00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:41.519
then that is something to check your bias about

00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:43.960
because you're missing out on knowing a person

00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:48.960
who could help you, a person who not to be braggadocious

00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.239
or anything, but I think is a pretty cool person.

00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:57.159
And sometimes I'm funny and you miss out on getting

00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:01.980
to know what this is all about when when just

00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:05.420
the word I call myself shuts you down and says,

00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:10.039
I can't be a part of that. I was a part of a

00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:12.760
community here locally and you've heard me talk

00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.239
about it on the podcast and an incident happened

00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:19.780
where when I was joking around with them, we

00:35:19.780 --> 00:35:23.059
were making a reel for Instagram at one of the

00:35:23.059 --> 00:35:26.619
events and everybody was lighting candles and

00:35:26.619 --> 00:35:29.300
putting them in a cake and saying an intention,

00:35:30.099 --> 00:35:31.639
saying something they were proud of themselves

00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:35.820
for. And I made a joke on the reel about how

00:35:35.820 --> 00:35:40.059
everybody just used witchcraft. Well, I was taken

00:35:40.059 --> 00:35:44.159
out of the reel. Now, I'm not mad about anybody

00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:50.320
for it, but it did show me that people still

00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:54.280
hold such a negative feeling around the word

00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:56.980
witchcraft. We have a lot of work to do in that

00:35:56.980 --> 00:36:01.579
department. In that... It showed me that this

00:36:01.579 --> 00:36:05.539
community that was, although it was presenting

00:36:05.539 --> 00:36:09.280
itself to be very inclusive and to be all about

00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:13.179
supporting each other, I was the only one taken

00:36:13.179 --> 00:36:18.079
out of the real and, you know, made to feel like,

00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:20.000
well, that's, you know, you tried to include

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.139
everybody in the word witchcraft and we don't

00:36:22.139 --> 00:36:27.699
support that. And my question is, why not? Why

00:36:27.699 --> 00:36:31.210
would that be a negative thing? Let's ask the

00:36:31.210 --> 00:36:34.070
questions. Let's dig deeper. Let's find out what

00:36:34.070 --> 00:36:37.269
it is we're still holding onto that makes us

00:36:37.269 --> 00:36:40.750
think that practicing witchcraft is in any way

00:36:40.750 --> 00:36:44.230
a negative thing. And I'm going to challenge

00:36:44.230 --> 00:36:47.769
that probably until the day I die. Probably.

00:36:48.690 --> 00:36:51.090
I'm going to challenge all of it. One of the

00:36:51.090 --> 00:36:52.650
questions that I said we would get around to

00:36:52.650 --> 00:36:54.570
it. So I'm going to answer the question real

00:36:54.570 --> 00:36:57.820
quick before we wrap up here today. One of the

00:36:57.820 --> 00:36:59.679
questions that I see a lot of beginning witches,

00:37:00.219 --> 00:37:02.599
beginner witches, asking on a Facebook group

00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.699
is, you know, like, can I be Christian and a

00:37:05.699 --> 00:37:10.199
witch? And I'm sure there are a lot of witches

00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:16.420
with a lot of harm and trauma around being a

00:37:16.420 --> 00:37:19.320
part of a Christian religion and deconstructing

00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.460
that that have their opinions about this. But

00:37:22.460 --> 00:37:25.539
I always jump in and say, I still consider myself

00:37:25.539 --> 00:37:30.960
to be a Gnostic Christian. I grew up in the LDS

00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.840
religion and as Christian, I have a deeply found

00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:39.880
respect for Christianity as it was originally

00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:44.119
intended to be taught in the way Jesus taught

00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.480
it. And I do study the Gnostic Gospels to get

00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:50.860
more of that pure... What was it supposed to

00:37:50.860 --> 00:37:53.239
look like? What were the messages Jesus meant

00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.800
for us to hear that were lost to us for a long

00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:00.099
time when it became very patriarchal and hierarchical

00:38:00.099 --> 00:38:02.800
and, you know, the Roman Catholic Church kind

00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:08.559
of took it over. But I don't see anything different

00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:12.340
about Christianity in that form and witchcraft.

00:38:12.820 --> 00:38:18.059
And I will say it, as many have said, Jesus was

00:38:18.059 --> 00:38:23.219
a witch. He did hands -on healing, he taught

00:38:23.219 --> 00:38:28.380
in groups, and he was even ostracized and killed

00:38:28.380 --> 00:38:35.059
for speaking up and making his kindness and his

00:38:35.059 --> 00:38:38.900
loyalty and his spirituality a subject or a message

00:38:38.900 --> 00:38:43.280
for the people. So that wraps it up for our discussion

00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:47.900
today on witches. Before we leave, I just need

00:38:47.900 --> 00:38:52.449
to re -announce. If you haven't been watching

00:38:52.449 --> 00:38:55.570
the social media, you need to check it out at

00:38:55.570 --> 00:39:01.030
practically -magic. We have practically -magic

00:39:01.030 --> 00:39:04.989
-podcast on Instagram, and you can find us on

00:39:04.989 --> 00:39:09.010
YouTube. You can subscribe on our website, practically

00:39:09.010 --> 00:39:12.989
-magic .com. All the places that you can find

00:39:12.989 --> 00:39:17.250
the podcast you've been seeing are contest announcement,

00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:24.719
Screening of Practical Magic 2 on September 10th,

00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:27.320
we have a limited number of tickets that we are

00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.119
giving away free to locals here in the South

00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:35.159
Jordan, Salt Lake area. If you're in this area

00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.619
at all, anywhere shape or form and can get here

00:39:37.619 --> 00:39:40.300
to watch the movie with us, you can get free

00:39:40.300 --> 00:39:44.030
tickets. And we have finalized some of the details

00:39:44.030 --> 00:39:46.110
on how this contest is going to work. So there's

00:39:46.110 --> 00:39:49.150
a couple of steps in order to enter. There's

00:39:49.150 --> 00:39:51.250
going to be a QR code. You'll see it and a link

00:39:51.250 --> 00:39:54.730
on our social medias on our website, but you're

00:39:54.730 --> 00:39:56.389
going to go to that link and you're going to

00:39:56.389 --> 00:39:58.630
enter your email and to ride the wave media so

00:39:58.630 --> 00:40:00.690
that we have your email, we have your contact

00:40:00.690 --> 00:40:03.929
info, all that. And with that, you will be sent

00:40:03.929 --> 00:40:10.460
a map and 10 clues. The tickets the QR codes

00:40:10.460 --> 00:40:13.699
to the tickets are going to be hidden around

00:40:13.699 --> 00:40:17.860
This area and a lot of the places that we are

00:40:17.860 --> 00:40:21.519
hiding the tickets have clues having to do with

00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.940
practically magic the podcast or Parallel frequencies

00:40:25.940 --> 00:40:29.139
the podcast so if you've been watching and listening

00:40:29.139 --> 00:40:31.500
to both of those podcasts You're gonna know the

00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:33.800
answers to these clues right away, and you're

00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:36.659
gonna know right where to look It's kind of a

00:40:36.659 --> 00:40:39.780
treasure hunt. We're calling it a talisman hunt

00:40:39.780 --> 00:40:42.079
because the QR codes are on little talismans.

00:40:42.739 --> 00:40:47.639
And this event is all put on by Aurora Apothecary.

00:40:47.699 --> 00:40:50.480
I have one of their candles here. This is their

00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:55.920
practical magic candle. So my podcast is practically

00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:01.260
magic. This is practical magic with the CK and

00:41:01.260 --> 00:41:04.099
the movie is practical magic to Sandra Bullock.

00:41:04.230 --> 00:41:07.150
Nicole Kidman. Practical Magic was my absolute

00:41:07.150 --> 00:41:08.769
favorite movie. That's why I named my podcast

00:41:08.769 --> 00:41:14.070
after it because it's all things magical. And

00:41:14.070 --> 00:41:17.349
I cannot wait for you to win those tickets so

00:41:17.349 --> 00:41:19.730
you can come and see the new movie with us on

00:41:19.730 --> 00:41:21.969
the Thursday before it comes out. So you get

00:41:21.969 --> 00:41:24.130
to be like the first person to see it. Well,

00:41:24.590 --> 00:41:27.409
maybe not actually, but one of the first people

00:41:27.409 --> 00:41:30.829
to see it with me. I'll be there just Blaine

00:41:30.829 --> 00:41:34.730
and Lorianne who owns Aurora Apothecary. We are

00:41:34.730 --> 00:41:37.969
all going to be there to watch it together. So

00:41:37.969 --> 00:41:41.670
please enter to win. And if you any of the work

00:41:41.670 --> 00:41:43.349
that I talked about today resonated with you

00:41:43.349 --> 00:41:45.469
and you'd like to book a session, I have virtual

00:41:45.469 --> 00:41:47.949
sessions available as well as in -person sessions.

00:41:48.710 --> 00:41:52.630
On my website, prism -healing .com. Don't forget

00:41:52.630 --> 00:41:56.010
to say hi to Wispy when you go to that website.

00:41:56.269 --> 00:41:59.389
We have been working hard on creating some cool

00:41:59.389 --> 00:42:03.269
new tools on prism healing this summer with my

00:42:03.269 --> 00:42:07.530
partner at Lumos and Pygon that we are creating

00:42:07.530 --> 00:42:12.289
some really awesome healing connections with

00:42:12.289 --> 00:42:17.480
using the tools that AI has to offer. More on

00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:21.139
that later. And finally, don't forget, I am at

00:42:21.139 --> 00:42:27.760
the Conjuring Tree in Salt Lake here. Or is it?

00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.239
I think it's technically Salt Lake. I'm not sure.

00:42:30.260 --> 00:42:32.559
It's over here in this west side of Salt Lake,

00:42:33.179 --> 00:42:39.900
over on 70th South and Redwood Road. We are there

00:42:39.900 --> 00:42:44.550
every Tuesday. I am. We are. We all are. You

00:42:44.550 --> 00:42:48.389
are there too. I am we're there on Tuesdays I

00:42:48.389 --> 00:42:51.250
do card readings there from one to six so you

00:42:51.250 --> 00:42:53.170
can book a session with me through the conjuring

00:42:53.170 --> 00:42:57.309
tree website or through my website or I Take

00:42:57.309 --> 00:42:59.570
walk -ins and you can pop in any time and check

00:42:59.570 --> 00:43:02.730
out the shop. They have some really awesome tools

00:43:02.730 --> 00:43:06.469
for witchcraft and A lot of very knowledgeable

00:43:06.469 --> 00:43:08.769
people that work there that can help you figure

00:43:08.769 --> 00:43:13.900
out how to build your craft So those are all

00:43:13.900 --> 00:43:16.340
the announcements for today and I can't wait

00:43:16.340 --> 00:43:18.599
to see you next week. Thanks so much to Ride

00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:21.239
the Wave Media for producing this podcast and

00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:24.079
helping me out with this whole Practical Magic

00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:26.800
2 contest we have going. I can't wait to see

00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:30.500
you there and go make magic witches and wizards.