Frozen 2 and Breaking Into Male-Dominated Industries | with Ashley Luke

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We are really excited to bring you this next

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episode with Ashley Luke, who is a franchise

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owner of Pink's Window Cleaning. It was great

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having the opportunity to visit with her about

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her journey throughout her life, new challenges

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that she took on that really prepared her to

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be able to take on a male -dominated industry

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and to find great success in doing something

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different and unconventional. And we look at

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that through the lens of Frozen 2. And we're

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also taking a look at maybe an unconventional

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pick for the character that we will look at as

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we see this idea of taking on these challenges

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through the lens of a wonderful movie, Frozen

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2. Really looking forward to this episode. in

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pursuing your goals or your dreams that you sometimes

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have doubters or sometimes you're pursuing something

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that's maybe a little unconventional. And so

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today we're visiting with Ashley Luke. of Pink's

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window cleaning. Very excited about the conversation

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today and kind of talk about her unconventional

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journey to this business that she owns and is

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really thriving in. And I think it's important

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because you chose to take this unconventional

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journey into something that maybe you had some

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doubters, maybe you had some people who didn't

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think you'd be able to make it happen the way

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that you did. So really excited about where that

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conversation is going to take us. And today as

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we talk, we're going to talk about about that

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journey through the lens of frozen 2 and a little

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bit maybe unexpected Character that we focus

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on in frozen 2 which is on out instead of Elsa

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So I was kind of preparing for this and as we

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talked it really seemed totally appropriate that

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it be the unconventional character talking about

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this I think a lot of people have assumed to

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be Elsa, you know talking about stepping into

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the unknown or something like that, but I think

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Ana's journey here in Frozen 2 perfectly captures

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the very topic that we'll be looking at. So very

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excited about where that conversation takes us

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today. So welcome to the program, Ashley. Yeah,

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thank you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, of course.

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So today as we get started, and that briefly

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mentioned, but... What I'd love for you to talk

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a little bit about is how in the world you got

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into this business. Like what happened? What

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was your kind of career arc that took you from

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whatever it was you were doing before and what

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your life looked like before and then why you

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decided to step into this new challenge that

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you're doing and thriving in now. Yeah, so I'll

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start kind of a little bit with my background

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of how I got to where I am, how we chose pink,

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all of that good stuff. So I was born in Ohio,

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the youngest of five. We moved around a lot as

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a kid, moved all over the US about every two

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years. Eventually we settled in Chicago for four

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years, which felt like a long time. It's where

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I graduated high school. I moved to Utah for

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college, went to college for a couple years,

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tried to do the traditional path, went to dental

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assisting school, got married. We bought a house.

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We had our first kid. We thought, oh man, we're

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living the American dream. Turned out the American

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dream wasn't for us. We were pretty miserable.

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So we so unconventionally, we sold everything.

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We sold our cars and we moved to France with

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our daughter who was one at the time. You moved

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to France? We did. No kidding. We did. Wow. Yeah.

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So we both had great jobs. I was at the Veterans

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Hospital. He was at American Express. We thought,

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man, we're... We're on a great path, but it turned

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out it wasn't for us. So what spurred that? Why

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did you decide to do that? And why France? Great

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question. So why France and why did we decide

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to do that? Definitely France had always been

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on the table for me. I had always loved it. I

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traveled there in high school and it had just

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been a dream. I wanted to live there. I thought

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I'd live there as a single person, but I didn't.

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So I quit my job. I stayed home with our daughter

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and then. Trevor was finishing his MBA. So that

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was an adventure. But it turned out that living

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in France was probably the place that I felt

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myself the most. The culture, the pace, we lived

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in a downtown. I loved that. We didn't have much.

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And we found out we were a lot happier with less

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than we were with more. When you said you lived

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in downtown, were you in Paris? We were in a

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different city. It's called Grenoble, a lot like

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Salt Lake, in the foothills of the Alps. Yeah.

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OK, fun. It was a lot of fun. How was the food?

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Amazing. Once you learn what to order, it's amazing.

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Did either of you speak much French? I spoke

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a little French. School was in English for him.

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So we learned quickly because a small town doesn't

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have a lot of English. How's your French now?

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Not great. Did you feel like you got pretty comfortable

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though while you were living there? I was pretty

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conversational and normal day to day. Experiences.

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Yeah, did you did you go experience what I mean

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you hear about because I never lived there and

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don't know a lot about it but You hear about

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people like going to the market every day to

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get fresh bread and get fresh produce and that

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kind of stuff Was that something that you experienced

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there? Yes. Yeah, you're everything smaller.

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So your fridge is tiny. So you don't have storage

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So we did yeah every day I would go to the market

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You can't you can't buy bread that lasts more

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than a couple days It just gets hard In my head

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is just like replaying like Beauty and the Beast

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and like the opening scene, right? We're bells

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walking through the town and like Maureen the

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buckets, you know, like that whole like that's

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what I'm seeing you doing Like you're walking

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around this town. You're like getting bread shopping

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doing stuff. It sounds like magical It it is

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a little bit life in Europe's a little hard.

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We didn't have a car. Oh No car. No car. Oh man.

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So you're walking everywhere public transportation.

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Yeah with a one -year -old Was it a lot of bus

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bus and then there was a train. Oh train. Okay.

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Yeah, so we would use whatever was convenient.

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But yeah, I loved living in France. It's hard.

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It's a very hard transition to go from comfortable

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suburban life to downtown. What do you feel like

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you learned from that experience? It was the

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first time that it opened my eyes to a different

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way to live. You know, American lifestyle is

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very different than French lifestyle. They really

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respect quiet time. They would prefer to sit

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in a park with a baguette. and a bottle of wine

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on a Sunday, then go on a boat or have all these

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four wheelers and other things that we look for

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in American lifestyle. So I learned a lot. And

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did that kind of change your perspective once

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you then move back where you you guys haven't

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pursued those same things and you have a little

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more contentment with what you have? Yes, definitely.

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We have since we've been back. Experiences are

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more important to us than than things for sure.

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Yeah. So how long did you end up staying in France?

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We were there a little over a year. The first

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year's the hardest for sure. So I wish we'd had

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another, but we were there about a year. And

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was that kind of the design going into it as

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you thought you'd be there for about that time

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or you just weren't sure and then after a year

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you were like, we're good, let's come back. We

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would have stayed longer if we had found a good

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job opportunity. So when we initially planned

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it, we'll be there for the year and then we'll

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come home. And what year was this? This was 2010.

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Okay, a little while ago. A while ago, yeah.

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So then you do there for a year and then where

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do you go after that? We moved back. So we were

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back here. To Utah? To Utah, yeah. So after France,

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we moved back here. I went back to school. I

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hadn't finished my bachelor's degree before we

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left, so I went back to school. We had another

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daughter, so we had two at that point, yep. I

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graduated with my bachelor's. Probably one of

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the proudest moments of my life is having my

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girls watch me cross that stage and finish that

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when they're little. That was tough. And then

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at the same time, I also helped my parents start

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a short -term property management business. So

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I started that with them. So was that something

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that they had been doing for a while where they

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had that need and that's where they saw it and

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decided to start it? Or how did that play out?

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They had just started it right as we were moving

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back from France. So they had been kind of looking

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around at what to do and they had just kind of

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decided on that. Had they been in the real estate

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industry or working with? Nope, that was a total

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shift. There's like something brand new. We're

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gonna go do this new thing. Yeah, my dad was

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in office products. So he sold office products

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for 30 years. Okay, so he was like on the office.

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Yep. Exactly. He was Michael Scott. Maybe more

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like Jim. All right. Maybe more like Jim. Definitely

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not Dwight. Yes. Maybe not Michael Scott, but

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he's like Jim. I'm gonna go with that. In my

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head, that's what I'm gonna say is Jim. That's

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more accurate. Good. Which makes your mom Pam.

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Yes. That's a great combo. Your parents must

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be amazing. Yes. They are amazing people. Yeah.

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And they really forge that path of entrepreneurship,

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watching them do that and kind of doing it alongside

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with them. I'm sure. Yeah, it was huge for me.

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And so, how long did you do that? I'm still doing

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that. Okay, so still going. Yeah, so 15 years

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we've been doing that. When you started doing

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it, how did y 'all get going on it? Because you're

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starting a business from scratch in an industry

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you're not in. Like, how did y 'all go about

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finding success in that and sticking with it?

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It's a great question. So, my dad had been looking

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at lots of different opportunities, lots of franchises.

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He looked at... all different kinds of things,

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restaurants, sports cuts, all those wonderful

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things. And he landed on this one. This one is

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a franchise as well. So he landed on this one.

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He just saw the growth opportunity for this was

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untapped really. So we work in Park City almost

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exclusively. So yeah, so that's kinda how we

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did that. So he took a path of franchise, which

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also might... Help explain why you decided to

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go the route of a franchise as well because you

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saw what value there could be in starting with

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the franchise For sure as opposed to just completely

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from scratch Yeah, which has a lot of challenges.

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So that's really smart. So you do that with them

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and then you're finding some success What led

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you to taking on a new adventure? That's a great

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question. So My background is kind of diverse.

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So we were doing property management. We had

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the opportunity to move to Malaysia So yeah,

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so we moved to Malaysia y 'all aren't afraid

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of a challenge we are not Now we have three daughters

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at this point and Malaysia is Still very different

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than here women are still second -class citizens.

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So for the first time in my life I saw what it

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felt like to be treated less than a couple great

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examples Everyday life going out to a restaurant

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we would sit down and I would try to order for

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myself and they would look to my husband for

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approval of what I ordered. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.

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One of the most extreme examples was I had longer

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hair at the time and it was so hot in Malaysia.

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I wanted to cut it. I was just done. So just

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like here, I made an appointment, went to get

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my haircut. My stylist, he said, I can't cut

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your hair. And I said. Well, what do you mean?

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It's my hair. I want it cut short. And he said,

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I have to have your husband's permission. No

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way. Yeah, to cut your hair shorter. He said,

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I've done it in the past. And I've had husbands

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come in and yell at me that I didn't ask for

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permission. So Malaysia really opened my eyes

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to what it could be like where we don't have

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these opportunities. So that pushed me to think,

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OK, what do I want to do with my life? I have

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all this opportunity. What am I going to do with

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it? So that led us to my husband and I both to

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thinking, okay, well, what do we want to start?

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Where do we want to go? I saw Pink's and I loved

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the opportunity. I loved the thought of stepping

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into an industry that's male dominated to create

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safety for women. Yeah. So explain maybe a little

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bit about what Pink's is. Yeah, great question.

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So Pink's is window cleaning, exterior cleaning,

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pressure washing. that kind of stuff, gutter

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cleaning, solar panel cleaning. Which makes sense,

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right? You're doing that, so it makes sense that

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that's been historically dominated by men. And

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you saw that as an opportunity. For sure, yeah.

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Which I think is great. And so then you start

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doing that, or you're researching, and you find

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this opportunity to do this franchise. And is

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it... You that decides that you're going to do

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it and run it. Does your husband do it alongside

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you? Is he kind of like, hey, honey, you do whatever

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you got to do to make it happen. Yeah. So we

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do it as a team. I definitely have taken the

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lead. He still works a corporate job, which means

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I've taken the lead a lot. But he's still definitely

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a team member. We do it together. He's very supportive

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of everything that I want to do. I pushed pinks

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for sure in the beginning. I loved the branding.

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I love the thought of. Being in a male dominated,

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you know shaking it up. Yeah, so yeah, I love

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that So we're gonna get back to more of that

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here in a minute But what I want to do is let's

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take a look at kind of through the lens of frozen

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2 yeah and understand a little about Anna's journey

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and kind of some of the parallels that are there

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and then some of the lessons from both That wonderful

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story and then also what you what you've done

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and kind of that the tie -ins there. So if you

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can Can you kind of set the stage of the kind

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of the overarching story of what frozen 2 is

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in case anybody hasn't seen it? Are not familiar

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with it You can't get that overarching storyline

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and then we can kind of dial in some of the specifics

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about honest on his journey Yeah, that'd be great.

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I hope I don't butcher frozen 2. Let's see. That's

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all right We're here as a team. We're teaming

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this and in this podcast episode So I'll fill

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in the gaps if I see him or we can make sure

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we get there Okay, so it starts with back with

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Anna Elsa Christoph's been Olaf, in Arendelle,

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right? They're back in Arendelle. Things seem

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to be going very well, but Anna, no, Elsa, starts

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hearing a voice, right? Yeah, exactly right.

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Yeah, and she hears something calling to her

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that there's something going on. We hear a little

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bit more about their mom and dad, find out their

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mom is from the Magic Forest, is that right?

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Yeah, she's from the... I guess whatever that

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area is up there that she's actually from, which

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nobody knew. Nobody knew it, and they found it

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out. Yeah, and they discovered this through this

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voice leading Elsa into the forest. Elsa kind

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of ends up on her own adventure. Anna ends up

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also on her own adventure, starting off with,

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I think she's with Olaf in the beginning, and

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then he ends up melting away because Elsa's magic

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disappears. So Ana for the first time is completely

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alone. And then it's kind of interesting how

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Ana and Elsa each are on their own adventure,

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but they are each helping each other, actually.

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They don't realize it. So that was pretty, that's

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an interesting piece of the story. And they both

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work through the magic and what's happening.

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And I'm trying to remember the ending. Yeah,

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and so then once Ana realizes the wrong that

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needs to be righted, which was actually their

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grandfather. who betrayed the people of Northuldra

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and then built this dam to, in essence, harm

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what they were doing and the forest and the health

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of the river and that whole ecosystem there that

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he did it selfishly to try to harm them. And

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so they needed to right that wrong. So once they

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realized that, once Elsa realizes it through

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taking her journey and she kind of sends this

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magical message to Ana, she realizes that she

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needs to destroy the dam. So she calls upon the,

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um, these, these spirits, which ends up being

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the rock creatures, right? That's right. Then

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it's helping her kind of destroy the dam, but

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doing so believing that that would then, you

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know, completely flood Arendelle, uh, which is

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where, where they lived. But, but doing that,

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she knew was the thing that needed to happen.

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Um, and so they do it together in essence, because

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she does that. And then it awakens Elsa. Who

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is able to come down with the water spirit ends

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up stopping Arendelle from being flooded? So

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again then taking their separate journeys, which

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I love you describe it that way I hadn't even

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thought about that. They're taking their separate

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journeys, but really they're still doing it together

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and coming together You know, they're taking

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those those journeys separately. Yeah, and so

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yeah, I mean it's just such a It's such a great

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story for a lot of different reasons and when

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we look at on his journey When she first kind

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of starts out, you know, she's got Lot of great

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things like you said like life is good at the

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beginning where she has her family there She's

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they've they've overcome the things from frozen

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one, right? Yeah, and now they're there But then

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Elsa is having this call in this poll to go somewhere

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else and do something else Yeah, but doubting

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on his ability to help her. It's true, right?

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Because that's what she's doing at first is she

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doesn't tell on us. She's having she's hearing

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this voice call her Yeah, and then she says she

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wants to go alone, but on is like No, like, we're

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in this together. I wrote down, yeah, I wrote

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down one of the things she said. Anna said, I

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climbed the North Mountain, survived your frozen

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heart, and saved you from my ex -boyfriend. I

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think I can handle myself. Like, it's such a

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good line. She's like, look, I, yeah, I don't

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have magical powers like you, but I still, I

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love you, and I'm here to help, and I can. And

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so I don't think Elsa was doubting her to be

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rude or unkind, but she just was. And Anna knew

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what her worth was and knew what she could do,

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which I think is a little bit like when we look

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at your particular journey, right? You have this

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male -dominated industry, window cleaning business,

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but you find this great brand that you believe

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in, that you're passionate about. And you believe

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that you can do it and that you can do something

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different, even though it might be dominated

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by other people, which I think is a really nice

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parallel there. For sure. In those situations,

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both for Anna and for you, where do you think

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that comes from of that strength to be able to

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take on a challenge when maybe other people doubt?

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Yeah, that's great. So where does the strength

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come from? Definitely comes from action. The

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more you do, the more confidence you have. People

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have underestimated me probably my whole life,

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being the youngest. Moving a lot, no one ever

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knew who I was. Moving across continents, it's

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pretty hard. And there's a lot of confidence,

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though, just like Ana said, in doing all these

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things that you don't think you can do until

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you do it. So, yeah. Before we jump back in,

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can I ask you a quick favor? If you're enjoying

00:19:00.710 --> 00:19:04.130
the journey so far, will you like, rate, and

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00:19:06.589 --> 00:19:10.190
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00:19:10.190 --> 00:19:12.190
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00:19:12.630 --> 00:19:15.670
but it takes people to make the dream a reality

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Through those experiences we prove to ourselves

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that we can yeah exactly But we have to be willing

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to because if you don't if you don't take those

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on you're never gonna find out You know if if

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Ana hadn't tried to do those things she never

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would have realized that she was capable of those

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things Yeah, for sure and that's an interesting

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thing about her journey that like that you had

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mentioned is so She kind of starts going down

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this different path than Elsa because Elsa separates

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her unfortunately, even though like at first

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like okay We're gonna go to this magical forest

00:19:44.259 --> 00:19:45.900
together, right? Okay, we're gonna be in this

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together once Once Elsa realizes she's got to

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go to at the Holland to figure out like what

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really happened She unfortunately like pushes

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on away again In the end that turned out to be

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the right thing because Anna needed to take a

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journey and do something But there's this, you

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know It's a really sweet scene that you mentioned,

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where she gets stuck in this cave and she's there

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with Olaf. And that point in time, Elsa had basically

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become frozen because she went too far. I think

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that's kind of how the song had described it,

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right? If you go too far, then you're going to

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lose yourself. And so in essence, she was frozen.

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So her magical powers start to go away. So of

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course, like you mentioned, then Olaf starts

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to. And Olaf has these really sweet lines in

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there. and I won't get your take on these and

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kind of what that may be meant to her. So she's

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in there, he starts to flurry away and he says,

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I'm sorry, Ana, you're gonna have to do this

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next part on your own, okay? And so were there

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ever, has there ever been times where you kind

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of had to do that? Where it was like. you're

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going to have to do this next part on your own.

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Yeah. Doesn't mean that there aren't people to

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support you, but for the most part, it's something

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you're going to have to do. It's only you that

00:21:00.430 --> 00:21:01.630
can do it, and you're going to have to dig deep

00:21:01.630 --> 00:21:04.690
to do it. Yeah, for sure. Starting new schools

00:21:04.690 --> 00:21:07.630
every couple of years. That was hard. My mom

00:21:07.630 --> 00:21:09.829
and I were very close. My dad and my whole family

00:21:09.829 --> 00:21:12.609
and I were close. But every time you step into

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a new school, that's all you. There's nobody

00:21:15.170 --> 00:21:20.430
else with you. Doing that was hard. Moving to

00:21:20.430 --> 00:21:23.109
different countries. It's all you. As much as

00:21:23.109 --> 00:21:25.930
you're doing it as a couple, my husband has his

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thing, I have my thing, and that loneliness you

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feel, that's all you. That's 100%. You just have

00:21:32.109 --> 00:21:34.470
to step into that and figure out how to handle

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that, the cultural differences. Nobody can react

00:21:38.670 --> 00:21:40.309
the way you're going to react, so you have to

00:21:40.309 --> 00:21:43.369
learn how to handle that on your own. And then

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starting pinks. They always say, as you're building

00:21:47.529 --> 00:21:49.619
a business, you're building yourself. And as

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much as we've done it together, we've done it

00:21:51.259 --> 00:21:55.559
individually as well. So there's been some loneliness.

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There's definitely darkness. And starting your

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own business, it breaks you in ways you didn't

00:22:00.299 --> 00:22:04.839
expect. So yes, so being on your own with starting

00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:07.720
a business, walking into meetings where usually

00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.299
I'm the only woman. Yeah. It's a major challenge.

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And you are. You're on your own. You're like,

00:22:12.980 --> 00:22:16.019
this is me. And I've got to step into my power

00:22:16.019 --> 00:22:19.740
to do this. Yes. You don't go in always with

00:22:19.740 --> 00:22:21.619
confidence, but the more you do it, the more

00:22:21.619 --> 00:22:23.400
confidence you definitely build. But you do have

00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:27.380
to step into that and just kind of own it. And

00:22:27.380 --> 00:22:30.559
as you grow, the confidence grows for sure. For

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sure. And I think what it ties nicely to here

00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:38.180
is actually the next line from Olaf as he's ultimately

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in on his arms and he's fading away. And this

00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:43.859
kind of comes on, there was kind of foreshadowing

00:22:43.859 --> 00:22:45.319
at the very beginning of the show, right? The

00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:47.019
very beginning they had this song as some things

00:22:47.019 --> 00:22:49.099
never change. Of course, the whole idea is that

00:22:49.099 --> 00:22:51.980
everything changes. And Olaf actually says that

00:22:51.980 --> 00:22:54.220
at one point in time. We said nothing changes,

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but since then, everything has changed. And when

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he had that kind of realization, then he comes

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to this line, which is just such a great line,

00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:05.740
maybe the best line in the show. He says, hey,

00:23:05.799 --> 00:23:07.680
Anna, I just thought of something that's permanent,

00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:13.200
love. And so when you think about, for you, having

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to do some of these things on your own, how do

00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:18.380
you feel like? that applied for you and your

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situation with you and your husband, right? Because

00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:24.279
you go and you move to France and you did have

00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:27.119
to do things separately, but you also still had

00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:28.720
that for each other. Same thing with Malaysia,

00:23:28.859 --> 00:23:31.259
same thing with pinks. How do you think, what

00:23:31.259 --> 00:23:33.519
you're gonna take on that, both for this story

00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:35.359
here, but also more specifically, of course,

00:23:35.380 --> 00:23:37.980
for your own. Yeah, I think it's interesting

00:23:37.980 --> 00:23:42.660
as you grow, love changes. When you're first

00:23:42.660 --> 00:23:45.970
married or first together, it's very... surface

00:23:45.970 --> 00:23:49.490
level, if that makes sense. And then as you face

00:23:49.490 --> 00:23:52.910
challenges together, you really learn how to

00:23:52.910 --> 00:23:55.410
love each other on a deeper level. And that doesn't

00:23:55.410 --> 00:23:58.789
change. So as much as you're changing, you're

00:23:58.789 --> 00:24:00.569
growing, your relationship's changing and growing,

00:24:00.750 --> 00:24:03.150
there's still that foundation that hasn't changed,

00:24:03.269 --> 00:24:07.589
like they say in Frozen 2. So I think through

00:24:07.589 --> 00:24:11.109
everything, all the challenges, it makes us stronger.

00:24:11.619 --> 00:24:14.380
I think if you don't face challenges as a couple,

00:24:14.740 --> 00:24:17.140
it does kind of stay on that surface level. And

00:24:17.140 --> 00:24:19.279
everything stays the same, but changes is kind

00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:21.539
of the theme, I guess, for sure. I think that's

00:24:21.539 --> 00:24:27.339
exactly right. And it's when you know that you

00:24:27.339 --> 00:24:31.859
have that love from somebody else. that even

00:24:31.859 --> 00:24:34.519
if you're taking that step like Ana was, where

00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:37.140
she was alone doing it, she could still draw

00:24:37.140 --> 00:24:39.920
on that love to know that she was loved, to know

00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:42.940
that people did care about her. For sure. I would

00:24:42.940 --> 00:24:45.859
say my husband has more faith in me than I've

00:24:45.859 --> 00:24:49.859
ever had in myself. And so I do rely on that

00:24:49.859 --> 00:24:52.559
love that's behind everything I do that I know

00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:55.500
that I've got a strong rock foundation behind

00:24:55.500 --> 00:24:58.970
me that will support me. that's amazing and I

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mean that's it ties in perfectly with then the

00:25:01.829 --> 00:25:04.109
song that Ana sings next right and kind of the

00:25:04.109 --> 00:25:06.450
end of the song says I'll make the choice to

00:25:06.450 --> 00:25:10.150
hear that voice the one of love and support and

00:25:10.150 --> 00:25:13.890
do the next right thing and when when we have

00:25:13.890 --> 00:25:16.509
the the love that goes really deep because we've

00:25:16.509 --> 00:25:19.890
taken the time to build that deeper love that

00:25:19.890 --> 00:25:22.650
really does help us make the right choices make

00:25:22.650 --> 00:25:25.210
the next right choice and the next hard choice

00:25:25.210 --> 00:25:28.609
because again Running running this this business

00:25:28.609 --> 00:25:31.789
that you have like I mean, it's just I can just

00:25:31.789 --> 00:25:34.089
imagine it being such a challenge because you're

00:25:34.089 --> 00:25:35.829
walking into rooms where you're the only woman

00:25:35.829 --> 00:25:37.930
and you're Doing something that other people

00:25:37.930 --> 00:25:40.329
haven't done. Yeah, like it's something that's

00:25:40.329 --> 00:25:44.509
new. That's unique. That's original And having

00:25:44.509 --> 00:25:46.470
the strength to just take the next right step

00:25:46.470 --> 00:25:48.650
even if you have dadders or even if you doubt

00:25:48.650 --> 00:25:51.150
yourself You still take the next step. Have you

00:25:51.150 --> 00:25:52.650
ever had that time where you've doubted yourself?

00:25:52.650 --> 00:25:56.079
Oh, yeah I doubt myself all the time. And what

00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:57.940
do you do when you have that? Because I think

00:25:57.940 --> 00:26:00.079
that's something that I think everybody can relate

00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.640
to. We have moments where we do, and so when

00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:06.440
you have, what have you done to dig deep and

00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:09.660
be able to still take the next right step? I

00:26:09.660 --> 00:26:12.859
often think of the phrase, do it anyways. Whether

00:26:12.859 --> 00:26:15.240
I doubt myself or I don't doubt myself, you typically

00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.259
know the next right step, if you will, and you

00:26:18.259 --> 00:26:22.140
just do it anyways. something I'm learning as

00:26:22.140 --> 00:26:25.160
I grow into this business is you just learn that

00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:27.460
you can handle it. Having the confidence that

00:26:27.460 --> 00:26:31.420
even if it goes wrong, I can handle it. That's

00:26:31.420 --> 00:26:34.200
really been huge for me as we've grown the business.

00:26:34.779 --> 00:26:37.019
We've had lots of big projects, things have gone

00:26:37.019 --> 00:26:40.940
wrong. We've had to do a lot of gymnastics to

00:26:40.940 --> 00:26:43.480
get what the customer's looking for and expectations.

00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:46.619
So yeah, you just have to trust yourself that

00:26:46.619 --> 00:26:50.240
even if it goes wrong, you'll handle it. And

00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:52.240
so circling back to what I mentioned before,

00:26:52.500 --> 00:26:59.400
which is specifically about how you've used this

00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:01.880
industry that's male dominated, but you being

00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:05.240
a female owner, female led organization, how

00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:09.140
have you actually turned that into a real strength

00:27:09.140 --> 00:27:11.700
for your particular business and for your clients?

00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:14.039
How have you done that? For sure, so one thing

00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:16.730
is you're memorable. That's great. If you go

00:27:16.730 --> 00:27:19.549
into a room where they're expecting a male, they're

00:27:19.549 --> 00:27:21.650
going to remember that it's a female. But the

00:27:21.650 --> 00:27:24.369
other great thing about it is creating safe space

00:27:24.369 --> 00:27:27.809
for women. When I show up for a quote, it almost

00:27:27.809 --> 00:27:30.529
drops a barrier for most women, that it's me,

00:27:30.630 --> 00:27:33.230
that I'm going to make sure everything and the

00:27:33.230 --> 00:27:35.569
job is the way that they would expect it to be.

00:27:36.210 --> 00:27:38.269
Details matter to me. There's just a different

00:27:38.269 --> 00:27:41.269
eye that I have. So I've taught my teams different

00:27:41.269 --> 00:27:44.609
things. Normally in a male -dominated industry,

00:27:44.609 --> 00:27:48.250
they wouldn't notice I think Yeah, just creating

00:27:48.250 --> 00:27:50.829
a safe space for women knowing that a woman is

00:27:50.829 --> 00:27:54.490
behind it has really been huge For us as we've

00:27:54.490 --> 00:27:57.630
grown. Yeah, because there's I mean, there's

00:27:57.630 --> 00:28:01.369
tons of female business owners and female Building,

00:28:01.369 --> 00:28:03.250
you know landlords and people who are gonna want

00:28:03.250 --> 00:28:06.289
to be using your services Yeah, and so it's probably

00:28:06.289 --> 00:28:09.130
a huge breath of fresh air for them to realize

00:28:09.130 --> 00:28:12.759
like I'm a strong powerful woman And look, I've

00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.900
got somebody else here, his two, and I can trust

00:28:15.900 --> 00:28:19.339
them. I can trust them to take care of this space

00:28:19.339 --> 00:28:21.900
that they're going to be, you know, taking care

00:28:21.900 --> 00:28:23.599
of for me. Like, I can have that trust with them

00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:26.599
because I trust her. Exactly. Yeah, and the care

00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:28.779
just, I care so much. So I think that really

00:28:28.779 --> 00:28:30.960
goes through, you know, when I'm speaking to

00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.319
other women as well. Yeah. So there's a couple

00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:38.380
of quotes that I... Came across in preparing

00:28:38.380 --> 00:28:39.900
that I kind of want to run by you and get your

00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:41.779
thoughts. Okay, so we haven't talked about these

00:28:41.779 --> 00:28:43.460
Okay, so I'm just gonna kind of spring them on

00:28:43.460 --> 00:28:46.019
yet, but they're great ones ones from Brene Brown

00:28:46.019 --> 00:28:49.519
And she said you can choose courage or you can

00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.819
choose comfort, but you cannot choose both a

00:28:52.819 --> 00:28:55.319
hundred percent So how is how has that been the

00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:58.319
case for you? So every time you grow it takes

00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.960
a little bit of courage it does and it is not

00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.359
comfortable And then you look back and you think

00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:06.640
I'm really bad about giving myself credit. So

00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:08.119
I look back and I think, well, that wasn't hard.

00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.299
I didn't need courage, but you really do need,

00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.160
when you step into these new things, it does

00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:16.680
take a lot of courage, and it's not comfortable.

00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:19.220
Moving's not comfortable. Starting a business

00:29:19.220 --> 00:29:21.880
is definitely not comfortable. Having kids is

00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:24.740
not comfortable. All these things, all these

00:29:24.740 --> 00:29:29.200
milestones that we do as humans really do take

00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.960
a lot of courage. Yeah, you can't be comfortable

00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:34.180
and courageous at the same time. Yeah, and you

00:29:34.180 --> 00:29:37.759
know what? We're here to grow. Yeah, right like

00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.359
that's how life gets better. That's how we You

00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.640
know in the pursuit of growth finding joy in

00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:46.539
the journey is kind of what life's all about

00:29:46.539 --> 00:29:49.200
But we're not going to grow we're not going to

00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.039
have those opportunities if we're not courageous

00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.779
about you know stepping out of our comfort zone

00:29:53.779 --> 00:29:55.519
stepping out of something that's really comfortable

00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:59.019
It's really easy to get in getting around where

00:29:59.019 --> 00:30:00.640
you're just doing the thing that's just super

00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:05.059
comfortable because it's easy. Exactly. And that's

00:30:05.059 --> 00:30:06.660
what's so interesting about your stories. I didn't

00:30:06.660 --> 00:30:09.140
know all these other things about you. Moving

00:30:09.140 --> 00:30:11.980
around a lot and then also taking these opportunities

00:30:11.980 --> 00:30:14.920
to move to different countries, but yeah, it's

00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:16.920
just completely connects I'm like, well, yeah,

00:30:17.059 --> 00:30:20.319
that's she's built over a lifetime showing that

00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.819
she's courageous to take those steps and then

00:30:22.819 --> 00:30:25.299
she'll step out of her comfort which makes also

00:30:25.299 --> 00:30:27.460
sense why like you've been so successful as a

00:30:27.460 --> 00:30:29.859
business because you've constantly challenged

00:30:29.859 --> 00:30:32.420
yourself. You've grown through those experiences,

00:30:32.579 --> 00:30:34.299
and so this is like just the next one where you're

00:30:34.299 --> 00:30:35.319
like, yeah, of course I'm gonna take on that

00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:37.200
challenge. Exactly. Of course I'm gonna do that.

00:30:37.220 --> 00:30:39.019
Of course I can be successful, even though you'll

00:30:39.019 --> 00:30:40.960
have your doubts. Even though you're gonna have,

00:30:41.019 --> 00:30:43.740
you know, as we sometimes do, that imposter syndrome,

00:30:44.059 --> 00:30:45.859
like, oh yeah, all right, it can't be me that's

00:30:45.859 --> 00:30:48.079
successful in this. Can I really be the one that

00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:50.240
is successful in this? Oh, definitely. Yeah,

00:30:50.259 --> 00:30:53.460
we all have that, for sure. Even moving around,

00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.019
you know, can I really be successful in living

00:30:56.019 --> 00:31:00.660
in... Southeast Asia. That was a big one. But

00:31:00.660 --> 00:31:03.339
you do, you look back and those are the moments

00:31:03.339 --> 00:31:05.000
that you actually feel the most happy, are the

00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.000
moments that you're being courageous, that you're

00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:09.460
stepping out of your comfort zone. It feels scary

00:31:09.460 --> 00:31:11.000
when you're in it and then you look back and

00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.220
you think, man, I was really happy. Yeah. Isn't

00:31:14.220 --> 00:31:17.519
that interesting? A lot of times we have these

00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:20.740
ideas and I think it comes culturally from growing

00:31:20.740 --> 00:31:23.740
up the way that we do and seeing... People be

00:31:23.740 --> 00:31:26.099
celebrated for an accomplishment that we think

00:31:26.099 --> 00:31:27.579
that happiness is through the accomplishment,

00:31:27.579 --> 00:31:29.480
you know You see sports and you see somebody

00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:30.920
with a championship and that's where everybody's

00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.279
super happy here You know see somebody getting

00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:35.839
an award for something and that's where it always

00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:38.920
when in reality life is really more about the

00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.119
journey For sure, you know you're looking back

00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:42.960
you're like man. Those were times where yeah,

00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:46.539
they were hard Yeah, but I was I was happy doing

00:31:46.539 --> 00:31:48.839
those things taking on those challenges for sure

00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.059
challenging myself One more quote I have for

00:31:51.059 --> 00:31:54.309
you. Yeah take on it Adam Grant, who I'm a big

00:31:54.309 --> 00:31:57.569
fan of, he said in his book Originals, he said,

00:31:57.569 --> 00:32:00.470
originals are non -conformists, people who not

00:32:00.470 --> 00:32:03.609
only have new ideas, but also take action to

00:32:03.609 --> 00:32:07.710
champion them. Oh, that's good. So I would look

00:32:07.710 --> 00:32:09.609
at you and say you're an original. So tell me

00:32:09.609 --> 00:32:12.509
what that quote means to you. How do you see

00:32:12.509 --> 00:32:16.950
that fitting into your story? Yeah, great question.

00:32:18.099 --> 00:32:21.299
I think naturally I am not an original. I would

00:32:21.299 --> 00:32:23.880
like to conform to society. I'd like to fit in.

00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:25.700
But my whole life, I feel like I've been pushed

00:32:25.700 --> 00:32:28.700
out of the normal, I guess you could call it.

00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.240
So I've really had to step into being more original,

00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:36.000
being more myself. Who am I as I grow? Because

00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.519
I'm definitely more on my own than I think a

00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:40.519
lot of other people. What was the second half

00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.730
of the quote? Sorry. that says people, so originals

00:32:43.730 --> 00:32:45.529
are non -conformists, people who not only have

00:32:45.529 --> 00:32:49.170
new ideas, but also take action to champion them.

00:32:49.450 --> 00:32:51.450
Which is where I think, like with Pinks, it's

00:32:51.450 --> 00:32:55.130
exactly what you've done. Yes, so finding Pinks

00:32:55.130 --> 00:32:58.009
was huge for me. It just spoke to me, the values,

00:32:59.230 --> 00:33:02.670
the 1950s throwback, I loved all of it. And I

00:33:02.670 --> 00:33:05.509
saw it and I thought, well, I can do that. I

00:33:05.509 --> 00:33:08.839
can do window cleaning. I can do this. And really,

00:33:08.900 --> 00:33:10.839
the more steps I took towards it, I realized

00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.240
I can champion this idea. I can take it, I can

00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.619
run with it, and really succeed. It wasn't easy.

00:33:17.980 --> 00:33:20.339
No. No, not at all, because I think a lot of

00:33:20.339 --> 00:33:22.700
people would have doubted that that was something

00:33:22.700 --> 00:33:24.980
that you could do something different, right?

00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:29.319
I love the idea that you're connecting and providing

00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:32.940
a safe place for your female customers. Because

00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:35.920
now that you say it, it's like, oh, well, of

00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.160
course. Yeah, of course that would be, but like,

00:33:38.420 --> 00:33:40.460
you didn't know that. Exactly. That wasn't like

00:33:40.460 --> 00:33:43.259
in the franchise manual, like, here's what you

00:33:43.259 --> 00:33:45.460
need to do because you are a female owner now

00:33:45.460 --> 00:33:47.819
of pinks. This is the angle you need to take.

00:33:47.900 --> 00:33:50.140
No, you had to figure that out. Yes. And now

00:33:50.140 --> 00:33:52.519
that you have, you're not just doing it. I would

00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.900
say, just from afar, that you're championing

00:33:54.900 --> 00:33:57.740
that, which I love. That's just something I get

00:33:57.740 --> 00:33:59.599
really passionate about when you have something

00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.480
great that you're doing and you champion a cause

00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.970
or a purpose you believe in. It's just really,

00:34:04.970 --> 00:34:07.890
it's really inspiring, right? I think, and I

00:34:07.890 --> 00:34:10.349
think one thing I'm hoping that people take away

00:34:10.349 --> 00:34:13.750
from this is just like the willingness to step

00:34:13.750 --> 00:34:15.690
into something that maybe they're a little bit

00:34:15.690 --> 00:34:17.530
nervous to do or that might seem a little bit

00:34:17.530 --> 00:34:20.230
different and in knowing that like, no, you can

00:34:20.230 --> 00:34:23.909
do it. You can do it and not just do it, but

00:34:23.909 --> 00:34:26.710
you can really thrive with it. And then you can

00:34:26.710 --> 00:34:30.869
champion that cause and help other people as

00:34:30.869 --> 00:34:33.539
well, because what you're doing to help these

00:34:33.539 --> 00:34:38.059
other female clients that you have, and you certainly

00:34:38.059 --> 00:34:39.780
have male ones too, but specifically the female

00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:44.780
ones, the confidence and the safety and security

00:34:44.780 --> 00:34:47.079
they feel because they're using your organization

00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:49.880
makes a difference in their lives. Yeah. Right?

00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.019
Absolutely. And I agree that just stepping into

00:34:53.019 --> 00:34:55.320
things that feel hard, that's where you're really

00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.420
going to thrive. And stepping outside of that

00:34:58.420 --> 00:35:00.659
norm and that comfort zone, we need disruptors.

00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.949
Yeah. So I agree for sure. Okay. So what I want

00:35:04.949 --> 00:35:07.130
to do next is take us to a little bit of a couple

00:35:07.130 --> 00:35:09.610
of fun segments here Yeah, we're gonna first

00:35:09.610 --> 00:35:12.550
do a this or that So I'll just give you two things

00:35:12.550 --> 00:35:14.389
and you tell me which one it is Okay, and then

00:35:14.389 --> 00:35:15.809
after that we'll take you to a rapid fire Well,

00:35:15.809 --> 00:35:17.050
you'll just the first thing that comes to your

00:35:17.050 --> 00:35:19.469
mind. Okay, so first of this or that. Okay. All

00:35:19.469 --> 00:35:24.789
right, so Arendelle or enchanted forest Arendelle.

00:35:25.130 --> 00:35:29.219
Okay. Okay. Good. How come just Peaceful so as

00:35:29.219 --> 00:35:32.380
I have so much chaos in my mind. Yeah that having

00:35:32.380 --> 00:35:34.860
somewhere peaceful is more appealing Yeah, I

00:35:34.860 --> 00:35:38.159
like it. Yeah Olaf or Sven. Oh, that's a tough

00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:41.699
one Olaf. Yeah. Yeah, I do I mean look Olaf's

00:35:41.699 --> 00:35:44.800
got some great song He does get a great personality.

00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:47.239
Yeah, like and I love said don't get me wrong.

00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:49.480
Same. Oh, I just got a little more Yeah, he's

00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:51.480
got a little more there. Okay, frozen one or

00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.639
frozen two. Oh, I think I did enjoy frozen two

00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.699
more Okay, yeah, it might be a hot take. Yeah.

00:35:57.699 --> 00:36:00.260
Well, yeah, I think they really built nicely

00:36:00.260 --> 00:36:04.059
on what it was and Being just great. So this

00:36:04.059 --> 00:36:07.480
one is related to that but let it go or into

00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.280
the unknown Well, that one's tough probably more

00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:12.159
let it go on that one. Yeah, I think so too.

00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:14.960
I mean that's iconic Yeah, right like everybody

00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:18.400
knows let it go. Yeah Okay, last sister that

00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:22.139
Anna or Elsa Oh Anna Always. Always. There you

00:36:22.139 --> 00:36:23.559
go. You're like, heck yeah, that's what we're

00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:26.400
talking about today, right? Exactly. I love it.

00:36:26.820 --> 00:36:29.900
OK, here's our rapid fire. OK? Yep. Favorite

00:36:29.900 --> 00:36:34.460
Disney movie? Beauty and the Beast. Such a good

00:36:34.460 --> 00:36:36.260
one. That's a good one. Such a good one. I mean,

00:36:36.260 --> 00:36:38.019
there's a reason why it was nominated for Best

00:36:38.019 --> 00:36:40.980
Picture and not in the animated feature category.

00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.119
Like, overall, all of the movies it was nominated

00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.199
because it was amazing. Yeah. Favorite Disney

00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:52.159
song? Oh. What's the Little Mermaid one with

00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:56.639
her thingamajigs? Part of Your World. That one.

00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:58.639
Yeah. What a great song. Yeah, that's a good

00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:02.000
one. Little Mermaid is such a fun song. Such

00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.599
a fun movie. And all of the songs in that movie

00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:06.440
are really, really good. They are good. That

00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.480
was the start of the Disney Renaissance, where

00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:11.699
they'd really been struggling for a little while

00:37:11.699 --> 00:37:16.099
in the 80s with a bunch of non -hits. Then Little

00:37:16.099 --> 00:37:18.960
Mermaid late 80s really catapulted it back in

00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:22.559
the Disney Renaissance us great great song Yeah,

00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:26.960
favorite Disney princess though though Back to

00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.659
Beauty and the Beast which also I didn't realize

00:37:29.659 --> 00:37:31.579
but of course the the france tie -in there right

00:37:31.579 --> 00:37:34.579
totally makes sense doesn't say it favorite Disney

00:37:34.579 --> 00:37:38.840
hero or heroine oh Interesting I gotta think

00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:44.409
about that one for a minute Probably the fairy

00:37:44.409 --> 00:37:47.949
godmother in Cinderella Okay, seeing her as a

00:37:47.949 --> 00:37:50.809
hero. I like this I hadn't I hadn't looked at

00:37:50.809 --> 00:37:52.849
it from that lens, but you can absolutely call

00:37:52.849 --> 00:37:55.670
her a hero Yeah, take it was great taking Cinderella

00:37:55.670 --> 00:37:58.130
from where she was to yeah be something that

00:37:58.130 --> 00:38:00.769
she thought she couldn't be was That's a definitely

00:38:00.769 --> 00:38:03.309
a hero. Yeah for sure She she took her on you

00:38:03.309 --> 00:38:05.650
know this she helped guide her through the journey.

00:38:05.650 --> 00:38:08.630
She needed to go on. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I love that

00:38:08.630 --> 00:38:14.590
favorite Disney villain Let's see, the godmother

00:38:14.590 --> 00:38:18.750
in Tangled. Oh, Mother Gothel. Mother Gothel.

00:38:18.789 --> 00:38:21.630
Oh, she's such a good villain. She's such a good

00:38:21.630 --> 00:38:25.670
villain. She makes it seem like she's sweet,

00:38:25.909 --> 00:38:28.269
but really it's not at all. Oh yeah, like her

00:38:28.269 --> 00:38:31.889
song. That's another good song. Oh, it is. Such

00:38:31.889 --> 00:38:35.210
a good one. Okay, we're going to step outside

00:38:35.210 --> 00:38:38.989
of Disney and say favorite book. Just any book.

00:38:38.989 --> 00:38:43.300
Oh, favorite book. Oh man, there's so many. Let

00:38:43.300 --> 00:38:48.320
me think. It has to be... It's about the Women

00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:49.940
in War. I think that's what it's called. Women

00:38:49.940 --> 00:38:52.940
in War? By Kristen Hannah, yeah. About the Vietnam

00:38:52.940 --> 00:38:55.599
War. Okay, yeah, that's what I'm gonna have to

00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.500
add to the list. It's a good one Okay, I'm gonna

00:38:57.500 --> 00:38:59.300
have to look at that one based on a true story

00:38:59.300 --> 00:39:02.500
or it is it's not a true story Okay, but based

00:39:02.500 --> 00:39:04.400
on historical facts. Okay, so they've got like

00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:06.300
fictional characters based on the stuff that

00:39:06.300 --> 00:39:08.079
actually happened Yep, exactly. Okay, that's

00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:09.699
kind of fun. Yeah, and then how she comes back

00:39:09.699 --> 00:39:12.159
from Vietnam and okay Some historical fiction.

00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:13.860
I always like a good historical fiction. It's

00:39:13.860 --> 00:39:16.960
a good one. Okay And the last rapid -fire is

00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.280
your ultimate dinner guest. Oh my ultimate dinner

00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:24.119
guest anybody dead or alive Would actually love

00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:27.019
to have dinner with can I have to sure the Obamas?

00:39:27.699 --> 00:39:31.340
Okay Okay, it'd be I mean be a really interesting

00:39:31.340 --> 00:39:34.280
conversations. Yeah, sure. There's a lot I'm

00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:35.920
sure a lot of experiences they have that you

00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.320
could get them to share They've made a lot of

00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:40.840
change a good change in the world and then they

00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:43.460
Maintained just being good people through it

00:39:43.460 --> 00:39:46.079
all the chaos be really interesting to hear.

00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:50.539
Yeah, no doubt their stories. So as we kind of

00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:54.199
bringing around back to Frozen 2, to your story,

00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:58.900
you know, kind of closing thoughts for you on,

00:39:58.900 --> 00:40:02.820
you know, what it means to have the courage to

00:40:02.820 --> 00:40:05.300
take an unconventional path when you have doubters.

00:40:05.500 --> 00:40:06.940
What are kind of your closing thoughts on that?

00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:08.920
And then after that, we'll wrap it into our three

00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:11.920
actionable takeaways. Great. So closing thoughts

00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.500
on being unconventional. Yeah. Yeah. And having

00:40:15.500 --> 00:40:18.039
the courage to do that, to take this unconventional

00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:21.579
path that people doubted you on. Great. I think

00:40:21.579 --> 00:40:24.119
you're always going to have haters in life. There's

00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.519
always going to be naysayers. Doesn't matter

00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.019
what you do. Someone's going to say, that's not

00:40:29.019 --> 00:40:31.800
the right thing. And so if that's the case, you

00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:33.300
might as well choose a life you want to live.

00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:36.579
So that's how I've always found the courage to

00:40:36.579 --> 00:40:39.619
just keep going, is people are going to say,

00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.659
this is a horrible idea. And maybe it is, but

00:40:42.659 --> 00:40:45.110
you're never going to know until you do it. Yeah,

00:40:45.250 --> 00:40:46.889
and I love that that the idea of just doing it

00:40:46.889 --> 00:40:48.489
anyways, right? Like they're gonna you're gonna

00:40:48.489 --> 00:40:50.309
have doubters no matter what steps you take You're

00:40:50.309 --> 00:40:52.610
gonna have somebody that is you may as well do

00:40:52.610 --> 00:40:54.750
what you'd like to do exactly make the life that

00:40:54.750 --> 00:40:57.110
you want Notwithstanding the doubters. Yeah,

00:40:57.110 --> 00:41:01.590
that's great Okay, so what are what are three

00:41:01.590 --> 00:41:03.610
actionable takeaways that somebody listening

00:41:03.610 --> 00:41:08.510
could put into effect? Today or this week? to

00:41:08.510 --> 00:41:11.349
start making the changes or finding the courage

00:41:11.349 --> 00:41:14.309
to do something unconventional, set aside the

00:41:14.309 --> 00:41:16.369
doubters and really step into something great.

00:41:16.690 --> 00:41:18.730
That's a great question. So what can you do today?

00:41:20.110 --> 00:41:22.349
First, I would start with taking 10 minutes and

00:41:22.349 --> 00:41:25.110
writing what success looks like to you. Because

00:41:25.110 --> 00:41:28.809
success can be a million things. And really looking

00:41:28.809 --> 00:41:31.429
at what success can be to you and not listening

00:41:31.429 --> 00:41:34.769
to those naysayers or other people. And just

00:41:34.769 --> 00:41:37.010
envisioning that and picturing that, manifesting

00:41:37.010 --> 00:41:40.730
that, if you will. That's the first step that

00:41:40.730 --> 00:41:43.050
you can take and probably should take in finding

00:41:43.050 --> 00:41:46.710
all of this happiness. And then the next one

00:41:46.710 --> 00:41:48.909
is to do one small thing that scares you this

00:41:48.909 --> 00:41:51.570
week, whether that's speaking up for yourself

00:41:51.570 --> 00:41:53.849
when you shouldn't have, when you wouldn't normally,

00:41:54.809 --> 00:41:57.909
sending the email, sending the text, even just

00:41:57.909 --> 00:42:00.250
doing an experience that scares you, trying new

00:42:00.250 --> 00:42:04.059
food, trying a new restaurant. things like that.

00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:06.159
You start to build you start to build up the

00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:07.900
ability to do that if you'll do those little

00:42:07.900 --> 00:42:10.440
things so that when the bigger things come you've

00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.119
built up a belief in yourself that you you can

00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:16.280
do that scary thing. That's great. So then that

00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:19.519
leads into the third one which is reflect. Reflect

00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:23.079
on the times that you did feel the most yourself

00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:26.460
and that helps lead into what was I doing in

00:42:26.460 --> 00:42:29.719
that situation that made me feel courageous or

00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.599
good about myself and that's really going to

00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.210
help you find your path of Where you want to

00:42:34.210 --> 00:42:37.690
be and what makes you feel the most alive? Yeah,

00:42:38.030 --> 00:42:39.789
absolutely fantastic. Those are great things

00:42:39.789 --> 00:42:42.170
I mean that's something that anybody could do

00:42:42.170 --> 00:42:45.269
you just you know tomorrow, you know, just take

00:42:45.269 --> 00:42:48.409
the time to Create that list right, you know

00:42:48.409 --> 00:42:51.070
take those ten minutes write that list down Look

00:42:51.070 --> 00:42:53.469
at your week. I mean certainly in even a day,

00:42:53.590 --> 00:42:55.469
but certainly in a week someone can find something

00:42:55.469 --> 00:42:57.550
that scares them Yeah, they just wouldn't have

00:42:57.550 --> 00:43:00.190
done otherwise and then reflecting on those things

00:43:00.190 --> 00:43:02.130
and the time where they felt themselves most

00:43:02.130 --> 00:43:04.610
Wonderful takeaways there. Well, hey listening

00:43:04.610 --> 00:43:06.630
a great conversation Really appreciate you taking

00:43:06.630 --> 00:43:09.409
the time to to visit with us Take a look at frozen

00:43:09.409 --> 00:43:12.949
to you know, see what awesome lessons there are

00:43:12.949 --> 00:43:17.030
from on in that and really but more importantly

00:43:17.030 --> 00:43:20.559
the vulnerability you showed to explain kind

00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.219
of what your journey was and times where you

00:43:23.219 --> 00:43:26.340
took on these new challenges and I think it's

00:43:26.340 --> 00:43:28.139
really going to be inspiring for those listening

00:43:28.139 --> 00:43:31.039
to say like hey I can do it too right I can I

00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:33.380
can take on these challenges I can do something

00:43:33.380 --> 00:43:36.760
unconventional challenge those things I can be

00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:40.280
an original and find success in doing those things

00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:42.099
so hey really appreciate your time today yeah

00:43:42.099 --> 00:43:46.150
thank you thanks for having me As you leave this

00:43:46.150 --> 00:43:49.190
conversation, remember that yes, the past can

00:43:49.190 --> 00:43:52.090
hurt and you can either run from it or you can

00:43:52.090 --> 00:43:55.389
learn from it. So here's to learning and finding

00:43:55.389 --> 00:43:58.030
joy in the journey. See you real soon.