Beauty and the Beast and Taking On New Chapters | with Sybrina Ely from Kenbry Capital

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So I was a stay at home mom for 25 years and

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I wanted to challenge this other part of me that

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I knew that I had. And it was like, I know that

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I have something out there to give. I didn't

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know exactly what it was and posture syndrome

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to a T. I deal with it every single day. I think

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every time I walk into a room of really intellectual

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people who have been in the industry for 30 years,

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it just led me to this idea of I think it's okay

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to just Go. And just do. She warned him not to

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be deceived by appearances, for beauty is found

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within. It actually makes me a little bit choked

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up. Don't ever underestimate somebody and also

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accept the journey that you've been given. There

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are those really gory, ugly parts that you think,

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I'm not gonna make it through this. And then

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when you do, you go. I'm so much better that

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I got that opportunity to have that really horrible

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thing happen. You can choose courage or you can

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choose comfort, but you cannot have both. 100%.

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Welcome to Yes And Land, where we say yes to

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the reality of yesterday and today, and we say

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and to the possibility, growth, and imagination

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of tomorrow. So excited to have you here today,

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Sabrina. We're gonna be talking today about some

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fun things, but as a quick introduction, I mean,

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so you've got this awesome company, Kenbury Capital,

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and we're gonna talk a little bit about your

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journey to get there, to having this cool company

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that you're the owner of, which is awesome, and

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what gave you the strength to do that. We're

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gonna talk about new chapters and taking on new

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challenges. And we're going to do that through

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the lens of Beauty and the Beast today, which

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is pretty fun. Like one of the, you know, one

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of the best Disney movies ever, right? Early,

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early 90s. We call that the Disney decade or

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the Disney Renaissance, where Disney had struggled

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for a few years in the early 80s. And then they

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had this kind of Renaissance when they brought

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on Michael Eisner. Started with Little Mermaid,

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but then... quickly thereafter was Beauty and

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the Beast, which was just like this huge hit,

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this phenomenon, right? Amazing movie. Probably

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shaped your growing up much like it did mine.

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Completely. Yeah. So we're excited to kind of

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go through what some of that is today with you.

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So first off, let's start with what your background

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is. What's your journey, where it started, all

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the way up into kind of where you are today with

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your company? So. As far as like my journey goes

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so I was a stay -at -home mom for 25 years 25

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years and how many kids did you have? I had two

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kids two kids and a daughter and so fun Yep,

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now they're grown up and out of the house and

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moving on with lives of their own. Do you have

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any grandkids yet? Oh, no No, not yet Let's not

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push that yet. Let's not push it yet. But I hear

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it's the greatest I'm excited for I'm very much

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looking forward to it and sharing this Disney

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experience with my kids is the one thing that

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I can't wait for so yeah, so when those those

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little grandies come around. It's gonna be a

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whole nother chapter of what life looks like

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for me. Did y 'all go to Disneyland at all? We

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did. So I wouldn't say that we were a Disney

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family. We were Disney movie watchers. So we

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did end up in Disney World a handful of times,

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and then also Disneyland a handful of times.

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And funny story, the last time I was in Disneyland

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was in 2024. Okay, it's a couple years ago. Just

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a couple years ago. And to go with your kids,

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when they are adults is a unique experience because

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they have all of the parts of Disney that they

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remember and they want to get those things in.

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And you're going, oh, but there's, you know,

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there's the Peter Pan ride and there's Mr. Toad's

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wild ride. And, and you want to have those younger

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experiences with them. And they're going, oh

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no, we have a completely different experience

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of what Disneyland looks like. So it's fun to,

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it's fun to kind of see that you don't ever out

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of it you don't ever grow out of it when I watched

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Beauty and the Beast when I was I'm not gonna

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say how old I was but when I was younger you

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know it was a different experience as from when

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I watched it you know five years ago and it's

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like you see the themes and the thing that's

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really great about Disney is that the themes

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fall in line for every age group and everybody

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can get something out of it and so it was interesting

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when I a couple years ago I read kind of the

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preeminent biography on Walt Disney. And in there,

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it talked about that when he was first making

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Snow White specifically, right, the first full

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-length animated feature, he made it designed

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to be for everybody, including adults. It was

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not designed to be a kid -only movie at all.

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In fact, he took pride in the fact that as he

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made movies, that they were supposed to be for

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adults as well. And I think... Certainly there's

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some now because there's are so many that were

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clearly designed for kids You know some of those

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straight to Disney Channel or Disney Plus were

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designed for kids But yeah, there's a lot of

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themes throughout the Disney movies, especially

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the full -length animated features that There

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really are, you know, lessons that you can pull,

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but also things that are fun for adults to see

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as well. Things that maybe only adults even get

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as far as the humor goes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because

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you don't have littles, so I'm sure you don't

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know Bluey. I don't know Bluey. But my goodness,

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with Bluey, like, my kids absolutely love it,

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especially my five -year -old. But the writers

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are so clever, because there's definitely things

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as an adult, I'm like, oh yeah. I feel those

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parents' pain with those little ones. The dad

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and the mom and that show are hilarious and it's

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it's just great because and I can enjoy it with

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them Yeah, and it's that they don't even understand

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like they have no idea what the pain of the parents

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is, right? But I relate but then it's like you're

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not in pain watching the show because you're

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going oh my gosh I can completely relate to this.

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Yeah. Yeah, so there's there's a lot of things

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like that in some of these Disney movies And

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I also think with most things right like is anything

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perfect. No Could you always make the argument

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that? certain things are outdated, yes. But I

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also think when you want to kind of have a growth

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mentality and learn from things and look a little

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deeper, there's lots of things that you can learn

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from. In anything that I see or I read, it's

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never like I'm gonna follow 100 % of what it

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says. You know, it's like, okay, let me pull

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out the good things. I can kind of disregard

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the other things, but even when I read a really

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good book, it's that same thing, right? Like,

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oh, I read this amazing self -help book, but

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it's still, I'm gonna use like 10 % of it. And

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I think that's the case with Disney movies, especially

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when I hear like criticisms of some of them,

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like, okay, yeah, look, that's fine, yeah. There's

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some things that aren't great, but. Other things

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are yeah, I mean I I think about watching Disney

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movies when I was I was really young and it was

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like Why do they always have that scary part?

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You know and then like even my kids as they were

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growing up. It would be like they would inch

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a little bit closer on the couch during, you

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know, like kind of those more intense scenes

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and the score of the movie, just anticipation

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and and then like the loveliness of like a slower

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scene. And and I think that they they're really,

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really true, great storytellers and just. watching

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that and putting that in line with like, it really

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our whole lives are a story. And if we take it

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too serious, and we don't just look at that as,

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you know what, this is the really, really scary

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part of my story. And this is the really lovely

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part of my story where I get to slow down and

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enjoy this really beautiful scene. I think that

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it gives us an opportunity to, you know, just

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live life in a cinematic way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

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I mean, it's it's part of why storytelling is

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so important. And it's why throughout human history,

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we've engaged in storytelling because it's what

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life is, right? We are all engaged in a story.

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Are you familiar with the movie Brave? Yes. Oh,

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you are. OK, I was thinking maybe you weren't

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because your kids are too old. But yeah. So that

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movie, speaking of scary parts like my daughters,

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who are 10 and five, they still don't love watching

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it because of the scary part with the with the

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the bear. Sure. The bad bear. Right. I think

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it's more do. Yeah, because it is so scary for

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them. It's like that. I don't want to watch that

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dad. I'm like, no, no, it's really great Yeah,

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it's such a good movie and then the same time

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fast -forward fast -forward fast -forward Yeah,

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like hey, that's what I need to tell them. Hey,

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we can fast -forward past a couple parts there

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and then one day you'll appreciate it Yeah, yeah,

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that's exactly right. Yeah, so you're you were

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a stay -at -home mom for 25 years I was so what

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was it that made you decide to? Do something

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with business like what did that look like for

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you? So I think i've always had an entrepreneurial

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spirit i've always enjoyed creation So I like

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being creative um, and when you're a stay at

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home mom, you can have that fall into the sense

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of Decorating your home or making a delicious

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dinner or you know helping your kids get dressed

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for school and so Creation looks a little bit

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different on that side and I wanted to challenge

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um this other part of me that I knew that I had

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and it was like like I know that I have something

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out there to give. I didn't know exactly what

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it was. And when I was picking my business selfishly,

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I picked it around my kids. And I threw a dart.

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And so it was kind of like what would fit into

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both of my kids are college athletes. And so

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I wanted to have the freedom of traveling to

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their sporting events. I wanted to have the freedom

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of when I do have grandkids. I want to be the

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fun grandma. I want to be the first one to call

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up and say, send them over. I've got them for

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a week. Take a cruise with your hubby, whatever

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that looks like. And so I really wanted the flexibility

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and autonomy of owning my own business. And so

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being, I would say, a little bit courageous and

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fearless in the sense that if I don't try it,

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I'll never know. And so I just... took a leap

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and went for it and Here I am three years later,

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and I think that I have another good 15 20 years

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left in me So I have a full another Book if you

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want to call it that it's a chapter Maybe I don't

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know if it might be a series a series of books

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that sure yeah You might this might be your trilogy,

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right? This is like book two of your trilogy.

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Yeah, I'm with you Yeah, so this could be book

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two. Okay. Yeah, I love it. So One thing I want

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to ask you about, that I just heard, is that

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your kids are college athletes. Yes. Which is

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so interesting. I think there's so many lessons

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from kids playing sports. Yes. What are they

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athletes in? What are their sports? So my daughter

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was a college rodeo barrel racer. Whoa, that's

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intense. Yes. And so she went to the University

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of Wyoming and was a barrel racer there. Seems

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like the right place to go if you're in barrel

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racing. It was an experience for all of us. And

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I will tell you, I got to relive my college years

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through her college years. We had an absolute

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blast. since graduated and gotten married and

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moved to Oklahoma with her with her spouse. My

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son is currently in his senior year of baseball.

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My husband hates when I say this, but people

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will say what is your son majoring in and I'll

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say baseball. It's what he loves. It's what he's

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doing. It's his passion and giving them the opportunity

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to get lost in both of those things was a real

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gift for us. For sure. Yeah. Does he have an

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idea of what he wants to do once he finishes

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his senior year? Because I think yeah, I think

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he has a little entrepreneurial spirit. You know,

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I think that when we sit around the dinner table,

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we talk about business and we talk about ideas

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and we talk about. psychology and relationships

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and how all of this forms the way that you kind

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of move through life. So I anticipate he'll end

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up in some type of business. He's right now it's

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business entrepreneurship is his major. Okay.

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And so yeah, he'll go down the same road. Well,

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I think I think it's interesting. I think a lot

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of times you'll see collegiate athletes end up

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being either salespeople or entrepreneurs. Because

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there's something I think that they've learned

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in that about building relationships beyond their

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immediate family. And really close bonds of relationships.

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And those both can be beneficial for what those

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long -term relationships are with those individuals

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or people they meet along that, but also the

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ability and skills to build close relationships.

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because as you know being an entrepreneur like

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you have to build relationships it doesn't work

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if you aren't able to effectively build relationships.

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I completely agree and I think that it's it's

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about um there's there's a game plan behind it

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too. I heard somebody say you know there's a

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lot of sports um and baseball is a game. they

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were saying how they thought that baseball wasn't

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a sport and it was a game and I thought oh that's

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really intriguing because I think business is

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a game sure and so I think every morning when

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I wake up I'm going what's my game plan what

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am I going to do today who do I need to meet

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who have I met in the past that I haven't connected

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with most recently so keeping those relationships

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alive building on those ideas it's like constantly

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meeting with people and going, what are you doing

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in your business that I'm not implying in my

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business? Right. And so I do I think that I think

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relationships are incredibly important and making

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that maybe top priority, you know, and for me,

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I'm a people person, I love to just chat with

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people and dig into what there's what what is

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going on in their psychology? What are you guys

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doing? What's creative that you're creating that?

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I didn't think of and how am I going to take

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that and morph it into what it looks like in

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my business. I meet with a lot of people that

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are in very diverse businesses. So I don't know

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anybody locally that does the same thing that

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I do. However, I have a lot of really great business

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best friends that we play off of each other.

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And so after this, I'm heading to a meeting about

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what are we gonna do for the next four months

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and how are we gonna hold ourselves accountable

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and having those relationships is important in

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entrepreneurship. For sure. And one of the things

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that I think you said that I wanna dig in just

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a little bit more is the way in which you described

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building those relationships because I think

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it's best done when it springs from a genuine

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interest. And what those things are that you're

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asking about. Because if you're just asking just

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to check a box so that you can find out what

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they can do for you, that's like disaster. It

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doesn't work. And I think being an entrepreneur,

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if you're not authentic, my most valuable asset

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that I have is my time. So even though I spend

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most of my time on my business, Having those

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relationships that are authentic and real and

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a give and a take are Far more important than

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just a really quick. Hey, what are you doing?

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You know, it's it's really diving in and going

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What changed you what what did you do last year

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that you are eliminating this year? So just getting

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really deep when you are getting into those relationships.

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For sure. Yeah. So you stay at home, mom, for

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quite a while. You decide to take on this new

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challenge. You shape it around a decision to

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make sure that you can have freedom and flexibility

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of your time. What does it look like when you're

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actually starting it then? What did it feel like

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emotionally when you're starting it? And what

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were the practical steps you took? So when I

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did this, I really went into it with the mindset

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of, hey, I have these two really great kids.

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I did pretty good. What if I just ran a business

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the same way that I ran my family? And so the

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idea was just keep doing what I am already doing,

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just apply it in a different way. So I do think

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that... Being a stay -at -home mom, being a parent,

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being a stay -at -home father, being all of those

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things, you're running a business. I don't think

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that there's much difference between, well, other

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than the emotion of your kids, but you've got

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the emotion of your employees, right? I don't

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see much difference in what I've applied to my

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business as to what I applied during that time

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frame of raising a family. Which I think is really

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interesting. One of the things that I think Really

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helps for anybody who's a stay -at -home parent

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is my experience with stay -at -home parents

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is most the time they're doing it for the right

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reason Yes, so their their why or their purpose

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is really locked in they understand the import

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of the Responsibility it is to be a parent. You

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know what it is that you're doing as a parent

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Why you would want to spend this time with these

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kids what it is you're trying to do? Beyond yourself

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and when you can take that same beyond yourself

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mentality, that greater purpose mentality to

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a business endeavor, then you're able to be more

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purpose driven and successful because you can

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carry that forward. And I had never thought about

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it in that way until you just said that. Yeah.

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Yeah. And I think there's so many skills that

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go hand in hand with it. It's like the patience

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of, you know, your kid does something and you

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go. That's not the hill that I'm going to die

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on. So I'm going to let that go. I'm going to

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let them be the CEO of their own life. And I

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think that that's the same way as dealing with

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a client. I think it's the same way as dealing

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with an employee or a business partner or a referral

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partner or even, you know, somebody who's helping

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you build your business. I think it's all just

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making sure that you're in alignment with the

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greater picture. We're going to roll this into

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kind of Beauty and the Beast a little bit. I'm

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going to work through your story a little bit

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more. Yeah. I've written down a few quotes that

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I want to get your take on as we go. OK, let's

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do it. Beauty and the Beast kind of starts with

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this underlying kind of narrator who's talking

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about this prince in a castle, right? Yep. And

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this old, you know, lady, this haggard lady shows

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up with a rose and is wanting to have, you know,

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safety and protection from this horrible storm

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that's happening outside. Yes. And she just basically

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says she'll give him this rose if he'll let her

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in, right? And he turns her away. And then the

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narrator says this line that I want to get your

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take on. She warned him not to be deceived by

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appearances for beauty is found within. So that

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kind of frames up this whole story, right? Totally

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frames up. She warned him not to be deceived

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by appearances for beauty is found within. So

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tell me about what that overall means to you.

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First off of the story, but more importantly

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for a decision to leave comfort and start something

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new. It actually makes me a little bit choked

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up. So give me a second to just... Catch my breath

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Don't ever underestimate anybody sure like Everybody

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you know Everybody is there for the purpose of

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the good and had had he Accepted her and all

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of her beauty even though she didn't look like

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what she was delivering If I remember correctly

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it was like with this rose, he got all of this

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greatness. And I mean, he already was a prince

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and had all of these wonderful things. But it

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could have really escalated into something more.

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It's, it's almost a double edged sword, because

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then I also think, did he have to go through

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what he had to go through to become the person

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that he was? And so I think there's really two

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ways to look at it. And it's like, don't ever

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underestimate somebody. And also accept the journey

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that you've been given. That is so insightful

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because I think it's exactly right. If he didn't

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know it when she was there initially, which he

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didn't, then she was giving him the journey to

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go on so he could learn it. Because that's exactly

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what he had to learn. Yes. Because he didn't

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appreciate it. He didn't appreciate that beauty

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comes from within. And so he had to experience

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that firsthand. She was actually teaching him.

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I didn't think about it that way. Yeah. that

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really that was that was the gift to him. That

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was his true gift. Even though I'm sure it didn't

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feel like it initially, right? His greatest accomplishment.

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And I think that we can both agree in starting

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a business and owning a business. There are those

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really gory, ugly parts that you think, I'm not

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going to make it through this. And then when

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you do you go, I'm so much better that I got

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that opportunity. to have that really horrible

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thing happen. And I'm so grateful that I had

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that presented to me in a really surprising manner.

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And so I think that all of that, you get these

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little surprises throughout life and the way

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that you handle them and the way that you move

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through them. I hope I'm not like the beast.

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I hope it doesn't take me years and flowers dropping,

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but. but sometimes it does and maybe a beautiful

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girl needs to walk into my life and let me know

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like hey you're beautiful too and and it's about

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what's on the inside and and choose love you

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know i think that those are really great messages

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for sure what what fears showed up for you when

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you were first thinking about this change and

00:21:49.869 --> 00:21:52.230
then starting this change to this new business

00:21:52.230 --> 00:21:54.670
you were doing oh all of them imposter syndrome

00:21:54.970 --> 00:21:58.309
to a T, I deal with it every single day. I think

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every time I walk into a room of really intellectual

00:22:02.509 --> 00:22:06.569
people and business minded individuals who have

00:22:06.569 --> 00:22:09.309
been in the industry for 30 years. And here I

00:22:09.309 --> 00:22:15.910
come in, you know, and I'm just excited and,

00:22:15.910 --> 00:22:22.759
and, you know, naive. And so I just do things

00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:25.720
without thinking. And I think, I'm not sure what

00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:28.019
the question was, but it just led me to this

00:22:28.019 --> 00:22:33.140
idea of I think it's okay to just go and just

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do. Yeah. Yeah. Fears hold us back from a lot

00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:40.460
of things. Yes. And the fear of that step and

00:22:40.460 --> 00:22:43.200
the fear of failure many times holds people back.

00:22:43.940 --> 00:22:46.900
Did it take you a while to overcome that fear?

00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:49.400
Or once you decided, did it just kind of, you

00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:53.259
just went? I think I overcome it every day. So

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I think it depends on the situation. I think

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that there's an event that you'll attend and

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you'll feel inadequate. I think that there's

00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:05.680
an event that you'll attend and you'll feel like

00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:10.339
the expert. And I think there is a scene in Beauty

00:23:10.339 --> 00:23:12.440
and the Beast where she says, step out of the

00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:17.339
shadow. And she wants to see. Who is her capture?

00:23:17.339 --> 00:23:20.319
Yeah, and it's like she sees him and at first

00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:22.980
she's really taken it back and then it's like

00:23:22.980 --> 00:23:25.180
she has kind of this softness that overcomes

00:23:25.180 --> 00:23:28.200
her and goes Well now that I faced you it's not

00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:34.079
too bad Yeah when it comes to fear and especially

00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:37.200
as you were taking it the the step to start a

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business mm -hmm was your fear a fear of failure

00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:45.859
or was it more of a fear of Judgment from others.

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I'm so embarrassed for this answer. Judgment

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of others. Don't be embarrassed by that at all.

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We are all thinking about judgment of others

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all the time. We all do. It's totally human.

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Judgment of others. I want to appear that I have

00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:08.099
it all together, and sometimes I'm just riding

00:24:08.099 --> 00:24:11.140
the wind. It's like, this is where this is taking

00:24:11.140 --> 00:24:14.819
me and I'm just gonna do it. As far as fear goes,

00:24:15.220 --> 00:24:20.299
I think that fear can be a little bit fun. It

00:24:20.299 --> 00:24:22.700
can be really great, right? And I think it's

00:24:22.700 --> 00:24:26.200
a good learning opportunity for all of us to

00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.380
find that part of us that goes, gosh, I did this

00:24:29.380 --> 00:24:32.880
really scary thing and it was not scary at all.

00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:37.279
And I overcame it and gosh, what a funny story

00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:41.299
to tell. What a fun story for me to go. I had

00:24:41.299 --> 00:24:44.920
this horrible thing happen. I was afraid I kicked

00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:48.279
the can down the road for three months. I Didn't

00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:50.819
follow through on my commitments. I self -sabotaged

00:24:50.819 --> 00:24:53.640
I did all of these things to make sure that I

00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:55.819
didn't have to face the beast coming out of the

00:24:55.819 --> 00:24:59.079
shadow But then it's like you see it and you

00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:03.640
go, huh? Well, that was really Not not at all

00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:07.079
was I was expecting so I think many times the

00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:10.880
fear that we have we tell ourselves The worst

00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:13.700
possible case scenario and one that might not

00:25:13.700 --> 00:25:16.740
even actually possible right that we just convince

00:25:16.740 --> 00:25:19.640
ourselves Is what might happen that then holds

00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:23.000
us back? Yeah, but I think to your point if if

00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:26.119
we can accept that we will have fear Mm -hmm,

00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:29.440
and that that's not a bad thing and then take

00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:32.039
those opportunities to face that fear, it can

00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.039
lead to something really great. It can lead to

00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:38.099
growth, obviously, and it can lead to new adventures

00:25:38.099 --> 00:25:40.960
that we otherwise wouldn't do. It's so interesting

00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:43.539
when I think about that in the context of rides

00:25:43.539 --> 00:25:47.599
at Disneyland, okay? My kids are just the best,

00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:49.799
and we love going to Disneyland and Disney World,

00:25:50.380 --> 00:25:53.279
and each kid kind of goes through these phases

00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:56.640
of being scared of certain rides, right? My 13

00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:02.019
-year -old son, very conservative in his willingness

00:26:02.019 --> 00:26:06.799
to try new things. He is the pickiest eater that

00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:09.960
I know. For a long time, like a lot of the rides

00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:13.380
he didn't like, like Pirates of the Caribbean.

00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.579
Because there's a drop. And it's not even that

00:26:16.579 --> 00:26:18.680
big. But it's dark. But it's dark, and there's

00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:20.119
a drop, and it kind of gives you a little...

00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:21.880
And it's ominous. Yeah, and it gives you a little

00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:22.779
feeling in your tummy. And there's some music.

00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.259
So he didn't like it. Even when he was like 10

00:26:25.259 --> 00:26:27.740
and 11 and 12, didn't like it. I'm like, this

00:26:27.740 --> 00:26:31.819
is not that scary of a ride. So then his sister,

00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:34.119
who's 10, and at the time it was first trend

00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:36.119
that she was eight, barely tall enough to go

00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.039
on the Incredicoaster. You know what the Incredicoaster

00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:39.460
is, right? It's the roller coaster, right? With

00:26:39.460 --> 00:26:41.559
the loop. She's like, yeah, I want to go on it.

00:26:41.940 --> 00:26:43.970
And he's like, wait. My little sister's going,

00:26:43.990 --> 00:26:45.130
she's three years younger than me. My little

00:26:45.130 --> 00:26:47.849
sister's going on it? Like, hold on. And so he's

00:26:47.849 --> 00:26:51.309
had this fear for a long time, and because she

00:26:51.309 --> 00:26:54.009
was willing to, she empowered him to, a little

00:26:54.009 --> 00:26:56.329
bit of that fear of judgment, to be honest. Like,

00:26:56.490 --> 00:26:58.490
I can't have her do it, not me, what's everyone

00:26:58.490 --> 00:27:01.109
gonna think? But then does it. Yeah. And now

00:27:01.109 --> 00:27:03.099
it's his favorite ride. It's his favorite ride.

00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:04.880
For a kid that didn't even like pirates because

00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:06.559
it had a little bit of a drop, now he can do

00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:08.859
the Incredicoaster. And it's like he grew two

00:27:08.859 --> 00:27:11.519
feet that day on shore. Yes, absolutely. And

00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.440
realized like, okay, I overcame that fear and

00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.039
I actually got to experience what now is my favorite

00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:20.039
ride. That I was holding myself back from experiencing

00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:22.559
because I wasn't going to. And sometimes, I'm

00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:23.759
kind of thinking out loud with you, sometimes

00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:25.380
it does take that encouragement from somebody

00:27:25.380 --> 00:27:27.440
else. I was just going to circle back to that

00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:30.180
and say... that's where those important relationships

00:27:30.180 --> 00:27:33.720
come into play. Because you can call that friend

00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:40.200
and say, okay, I'm doing this. And can I call

00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.339
you when I'm done? Because I'm not sure I'm gonna,

00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:44.819
I'm not sure I'm gonna nail it. I don't know

00:27:44.819 --> 00:27:47.299
what's gonna happen. And to hear them be your

00:27:47.299 --> 00:27:50.720
hype person and go. you've got this you have

00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.920
done this this way you've done this this way

00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.559
and you've exercised this this way and you implemented

00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.480
this in your business and look at where you were

00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.900
last year at this time and then you hang up the

00:27:59.900 --> 00:28:02.960
phone and you go okay i have all the courage

00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:04.920
in the world but i had to borrow it from my friend

00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:10.539
yeah and that's the beauty of of having people

00:28:10.539 --> 00:28:13.160
that we have a sense of belonging with yes it's

00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.019
something we all need yeah i talk about this

00:28:15.019 --> 00:28:17.400
a lot where there's there's kind of these four

00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:19.240
core human needs, and one of them is a sense

00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.420
of belonging. We all need it. Even if we're introverts,

00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.519
we still need a sense of belonging. We just do,

00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.259
and when you have that, you can draw on that

00:28:28.259 --> 00:28:30.440
strength. Okay, so another quote. It's gonna

00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.900
be very similar, but I like it because it's like

00:28:33.900 --> 00:28:36.640
one of the funny, corny, like, dad jokes that's

00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:38.720
in the show, but it fits, okay? So you remember

00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.259
Cogsworth, right? He has a little clock, and

00:28:41.259 --> 00:28:44.529
he's making a... He's making a joke, right? And

00:28:44.529 --> 00:28:47.609
his joke is, if it's not Baroque, don't fix it.

00:28:48.130 --> 00:28:50.170
In other words, if it's not Baroque, don't fix

00:28:50.170 --> 00:28:52.289
it, but Baroque being the joke that he was playing

00:28:52.289 --> 00:28:56.410
off of. And so with that, how does that fit into

00:28:56.410 --> 00:28:58.750
this idea of the comfort trap that sometimes

00:28:58.750 --> 00:29:00.910
people fall into? If it's not Baroque, don't

00:29:00.910 --> 00:29:07.029
fix it. I almost wonder, are we ever really done?

00:29:07.950 --> 00:29:14.200
Are we ever really done? with everything. There's

00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:17.900
always an opportunity to fix it. There's always

00:29:17.900 --> 00:29:22.039
an opportunity to revisit it because the person

00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:24.400
that you are when you start your business is

00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:26.380
not the person that you are when you're five

00:29:26.380 --> 00:29:32.279
years in. And so it may not be broke, but there

00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:35.680
might be a newer, fresher style coming around

00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.720
the corner. You know, there's that Renaissance

00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:41.460
of we're not. We're no longer in the broke period.

00:29:41.500 --> 00:29:45.039
So I think that there's always an opportunity

00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:49.720
to readdress everything in your business. And

00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:51.599
you're not going to do it all the time. It's

00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:53.940
you're not going to readdress every single thing.

00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:58.339
You would drive yourself mad. But there's always

00:29:58.339 --> 00:30:01.380
an opportunity to revisit and grow and adjust.

00:30:02.220 --> 00:30:05.819
Yeah. Yeah. I think this fits perfectly in line

00:30:05.819 --> 00:30:08.180
with a quote I've used in the past on this podcast,

00:30:08.180 --> 00:30:10.200
but when I was kind of going through this, it

00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:13.440
just came up naturally, which is by Brené Brown,

00:30:13.859 --> 00:30:16.680
who we both adore. You can choose courage or

00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:19.539
you can choose comfort, but you cannot have both.

00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.700
100%. Because if we're going to try to fix something

00:30:23.700 --> 00:30:25.779
or change something or do something, there is

00:30:25.779 --> 00:30:28.079
courage that it takes. It took courage for you

00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:30.160
to say, I'm not going to be a stay at home mom

00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:32.920
anymore. I'm going to do something. Not only

00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:34.259
am I going to do something, I'm going to do something

00:30:34.259 --> 00:30:35.799
a lot of people wouldn't do because it's really

00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:37.319
scary, which is I'm going to start a business.

00:30:37.819 --> 00:30:39.099
I'm going to go out there and start a business.

00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:41.079
It's all on me. I got to go figure the whole

00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.039
thing out. I have no steady paycheck to rely

00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:47.160
on. I have no employer to rely on. It's all on

00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:50.079
me. And that takes a great amount of courage.

00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.380
So you take this chance, this opportunity, and

00:30:55.380 --> 00:30:59.410
obviously it takes a ton of courage to do. How

00:30:59.410 --> 00:31:01.430
did it end up playing out and say the first year

00:31:01.430 --> 00:31:03.410
that you did it? What challenges did you face?

00:31:04.910 --> 00:31:07.569
Do you know, I think because of how naive I was

00:31:07.569 --> 00:31:10.609
in starting the business, I didn't have many

00:31:10.609 --> 00:31:12.289
challenges the first year. I think it was the

00:31:12.289 --> 00:31:15.269
second year when I really started to look at

00:31:15.269 --> 00:31:18.029
myself and go, okay, this isn't just about fun

00:31:18.029 --> 00:31:20.869
and learning anymore. I'm a real advocate of

00:31:20.869 --> 00:31:23.549
self growth and development. And so that first

00:31:23.549 --> 00:31:26.890
year I was just literally let's just throw whatever

00:31:26.890 --> 00:31:29.109
to the wall and let's see what sticks. Let's

00:31:29.109 --> 00:31:32.289
try this. Let's try that. Let's learn this thing.

00:31:32.549 --> 00:31:35.150
Let's go to this class. Let's get this education.

00:31:36.029 --> 00:31:39.390
And it was all about fun. And it was all about

00:31:39.390 --> 00:31:41.710
the journey. And it was all about building. And

00:31:41.710 --> 00:31:45.329
it was all about just me developing a different

00:31:45.329 --> 00:31:48.400
side of myself that I didn't. develop for a little

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.759
bit. And like I said, I do believe that parenting

00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:53.380
is running a business. Building a family is running

00:31:53.380 --> 00:31:56.299
a business. And at the same time, that first

00:31:56.299 --> 00:31:59.420
year was just it was just a party. And then it

00:31:59.420 --> 00:32:03.420
was the second year that I went, Oh, this could

00:32:03.420 --> 00:32:06.900
be real. I I could actually be really successful

00:32:06.900 --> 00:32:09.549
at this and I could make something out of this

00:32:09.549 --> 00:32:12.029
and I could maybe have a little bit of legacy

00:32:12.029 --> 00:32:16.210
that I leave behind and and so I kind of went

00:32:16.210 --> 00:32:20.450
into that phase or chapter if you will and then

00:32:20.450 --> 00:32:23.650
it kind of turned into oh my gosh people are

00:32:23.650 --> 00:32:28.809
noticing me I don't like that I'm going to retreat

00:32:28.809 --> 00:32:32.150
and kind of hide a little bit fear of judgment

00:32:32.150 --> 00:32:34.390
of others right nobody was saying that I was

00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:36.829
doing it wrong nobody was saying that it wasn't

00:32:36.829 --> 00:32:39.980
the fastest way there. Nobody had any judgment

00:32:39.980 --> 00:32:43.019
upon me, but all of a sudden I went, did I waste

00:32:43.019 --> 00:32:46.640
a full year of my time? And now I look back and

00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:50.099
I go, it's my personality. If it's not fun, I'm

00:32:50.099 --> 00:32:52.900
not going to do it. And so it has to be fun.

00:32:53.019 --> 00:32:56.160
It has to be something that I enjoy. It has to

00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.819
bring me growth. It has to bring curiosity out

00:32:58.819 --> 00:33:02.380
of me. And so I think it wasn't until that second

00:33:02.380 --> 00:33:05.799
year that I started to go, oh, this is a serious

00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:08.640
thing. And now that I'm in my third year, I'm

00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.279
going, not only is this a serious thing, this

00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.980
is a fun thing. And so it's been the combination

00:33:14.980 --> 00:33:17.160
of that first year and that second year that's

00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.500
now gotten me to this this third year and now

00:33:19.500 --> 00:33:23.039
almost my fourth year. So this is like this is

00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:28.039
so good. So there's a really famous author, public

00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.240
speaker. She's a professor. I think it's Stanford

00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.519
currently, Angela Duckworth. Okay, I've not heard

00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:35.660
of her. She wrote a book called Grit. Okay. And

00:33:35.660 --> 00:33:38.900
she also did a TED Talk by the same name, Grit.

00:33:38.900 --> 00:33:40.359
So she did TED Talk first, then she wrote the

00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.880
book afterwards. And in it, she wrote, enthusiasm

00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:50.079
is common, endurance is rare. Yes. I mean, that

00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.119
fits so perfectly with what you're talking about.

00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.299
I love that. Right? Because... when you're starting

00:33:55.299 --> 00:33:56.920
a new adventure, once you overcome that initial

00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.700
fear, you do have some enthusiasm about it. That's

00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:01.680
why you're doing it. Hey, this is pretty exciting,

00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:03.339
this is new, I'm gonna try this thing, I'm gonna

00:34:03.339 --> 00:34:07.059
try that thing. What then separates, and this

00:34:07.059 --> 00:34:09.000
is the argument Dr. Duckworth makes in her book,

00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.800
what separates then those who are high achievers

00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:15.480
versus not is the ability to endure past where

00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.539
that enthusiasm starts to wane a little bit because

00:34:17.539 --> 00:34:20.380
sometimes things get hard. And when things get

00:34:20.380 --> 00:34:24.619
hard, if you can persevere, through those then

00:34:24.619 --> 00:34:26.619
that can take you to success whereas a lot of

00:34:26.619 --> 00:34:29.039
people take that opportunity then hit a wall

00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.780
and they quit they stop doing it they go do something

00:34:31.780 --> 00:34:34.440
else because they can't push through that initial

00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:38.099
enthusiasm bump so what got you past that initial

00:34:38.099 --> 00:34:41.190
like okay you've got enthusiasm for it In your

00:34:41.190 --> 00:34:43.070
second and in your third year, you still want

00:34:43.070 --> 00:34:46.269
to be fun But that enthusiasm kind of wall sounds

00:34:46.269 --> 00:34:48.769
like you kind of hit what what changed? What

00:34:48.769 --> 00:34:52.429
did you do to say? Okay, that happened. That's

00:34:52.429 --> 00:34:54.469
kind of worn off. I'm gonna keep going. What

00:34:54.469 --> 00:34:57.869
kept you going? Community, okay. Yeah, tell me

00:34:57.869 --> 00:35:01.230
more surrounding myself with like -minded people

00:35:01.230 --> 00:35:04.449
putting myself in a position where when I can't

00:35:04.449 --> 00:35:07.309
pull myself through I have somebody I can rely

00:35:07.309 --> 00:35:11.219
on and it's somebody Um again, it makes me emotional.

00:35:11.219 --> 00:35:14.239
Oh my gosh. I'm pretty teary today I have an

00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.440
incredible group of people who believe in me

00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.619
more than I believe in myself It makes such a

00:35:19.619 --> 00:35:22.639
difference. It does and I think we don't fully

00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:29.380
appreciate what that can mean For us until we're

00:35:29.380 --> 00:35:31.820
in it. Yeah, but also what influence we can have

00:35:31.820 --> 00:35:34.159
on others if we're that for somebody else, too

00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.940
Yes And i'm not letting any of those people down,

00:35:37.940 --> 00:35:41.800
right? If they're my biggest fan, I'm going to

00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:43.679
show up for them. I'm going to give them the

00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.599
best show that I can give them. I'm going to

00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:47.920
play the best game that I can play. I'm going

00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.960
to give everything that I've got because I don't

00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.800
want to go back to them and say, thank you so

00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.199
much for cheering me on. I just decided this

00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:59.519
wasn't for me. I'm not going to do that. That

00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:03.539
doesn't work. So yeah, I think community is really,

00:36:03.539 --> 00:36:07.019
really important. Something we both have in common

00:36:07.019 --> 00:36:09.039
is we both participate in a Chamber of Commerce.

00:36:09.619 --> 00:36:11.780
We're both pretty involved in the South Valley

00:36:11.780 --> 00:36:15.019
Chamber of Commerce. What role has that played

00:36:15.019 --> 00:36:16.800
in you for helping you to build relationships

00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.320
and build community? Oh my gosh, the education

00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:21.940
piece that I have gotten from that community

00:36:21.940 --> 00:36:27.130
in and of itself, they push me. They put me on

00:36:27.130 --> 00:36:29.909
a panel. They do these things that take me out

00:36:29.909 --> 00:36:32.889
of my comfort zone. They introduce me to Ryan

00:36:32.889 --> 00:36:35.710
at RCG Law and says, come be on my podcast. And

00:36:35.710 --> 00:36:38.789
I go, I don't know. I can't breathe. What am

00:36:38.789 --> 00:36:43.190
I going to do? So I think it puts me in situations

00:36:43.190 --> 00:36:45.989
that I otherwise would not have been able to

00:36:45.989 --> 00:36:56.489
have the opportunity to show up in. and subscribe

00:36:56.489 --> 00:36:59.369
to our show, it helps us reach more people like

00:36:59.369 --> 00:37:03.010
you. We can design and create and build the most

00:37:03.010 --> 00:37:05.789
wonderful place in the world, but it takes people

00:37:05.789 --> 00:37:08.869
to make the dream a reality. You know, historically,

00:37:10.090 --> 00:37:13.889
when I started practicing law, the first firm

00:37:13.889 --> 00:37:15.909
that I started working for was a very entrepreneurial

00:37:15.909 --> 00:37:18.550
firm, for sure, and would encourage me to do

00:37:18.550 --> 00:37:21.590
things that were networking. But the really only

00:37:21.590 --> 00:37:25.670
thing that that was was BNI. And be nice fine.

00:37:25.670 --> 00:37:28.130
It's great. And for some people who can yeah,

00:37:28.289 --> 00:37:30.849
just really embrace it. It's great Yeah, I still

00:37:30.849 --> 00:37:35.449
have not found a love for it for me. I always

00:37:35.449 --> 00:37:38.909
just felt like Everyone's being forced to use

00:37:38.909 --> 00:37:40.829
the other people in the group and what if somebody

00:37:40.829 --> 00:37:42.590
stinks, right? What if somebody's not very good

00:37:42.590 --> 00:37:44.969
or you know, I so I just like had this stuff

00:37:44.969 --> 00:37:48.869
kind of holding me back I think we're both entrepreneurs,

00:37:49.090 --> 00:37:50.650
so we don't want to be told what to do. That's

00:37:50.650 --> 00:37:53.389
exactly right. We chose to be the boss. I want

00:37:53.389 --> 00:37:54.789
to give a referral to somebody because I believe

00:37:54.789 --> 00:37:56.829
in them, not because they happen to pay a fee

00:37:56.829 --> 00:37:59.010
and show up in this group every week. And I don't

00:37:59.010 --> 00:38:01.329
want an assignment. My business is my assignment

00:38:01.329 --> 00:38:04.710
and I can't take on any more tasks. And so it's

00:38:04.710 --> 00:38:11.269
so, but yet, I'm going to say not but, and, we

00:38:11.269 --> 00:38:12.969
both have assignments with South Valley Chamber.

00:38:14.150 --> 00:38:16.710
Right? It's a service. I think that's exactly

00:38:16.710 --> 00:38:19.469
right. See, I don't want to be a B &I bachelor

00:38:19.469 --> 00:38:21.809
because for some people it works so well and

00:38:21.809 --> 00:38:24.230
they can embrace it and it's great. Just for

00:38:24.230 --> 00:38:27.070
me, it hasn't. But I think you're right. In the

00:38:27.070 --> 00:38:28.710
South By Chamber, it's just an opportunity to

00:38:28.710 --> 00:38:30.659
serve that I've been provided. It is. And what's

00:38:30.659 --> 00:38:32.400
the difference for you with that? It's absolutely

00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:36.000
that. So in the other group, it's a situation

00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.059
where it feels like a task. And it's like, hey,

00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.159
I don't need any more assignments. But if I'm

00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:44.059
going to serve my fellow entrepreneur or my fellow

00:38:44.059 --> 00:38:48.500
business owner or somebody who's even an employee

00:38:48.500 --> 00:38:51.099
who's building a business for somebody else,

00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:55.659
if I can provide something, a relationship, a

00:38:55.659 --> 00:39:00.929
tool, a referral, an opportunity, To me, man,

00:39:00.949 --> 00:39:04.690
that just fills my heart. That inflates me all

00:39:04.690 --> 00:39:07.690
day long, and I just have nothing to learn but

00:39:07.690 --> 00:39:12.010
by giving. Yeah. Yeah. And initially, for me,

00:39:12.030 --> 00:39:14.210
when I joined the South By Chamber, I took the

00:39:14.210 --> 00:39:15.929
Business Accelerator class, which is where we

00:39:15.929 --> 00:39:18.449
met. Same, yeah. But then I was just like, OK.

00:39:18.929 --> 00:39:22.809
I mean, I went, that's fine. It's OK, I got it.

00:39:22.929 --> 00:39:27.710
And I wasn't involved. What I found is when I

00:39:27.710 --> 00:39:31.539
could like embrace it and say okay there's actually

00:39:31.539 --> 00:39:34.940
something more here because I mean now for the

00:39:34.940 --> 00:39:37.159
last six months I've got a business partner here

00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.320
so Joey Carlson has come on but prior that it

00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.980
was just me and so when it's just you it's just

00:39:42.980 --> 00:39:44.559
all on your shoulders and there's there's so

00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.719
much more weight to it and I joined some yes

00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.000
other mastermind groups with like family law

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.599
attorneys across the country which was great

00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.619
learned a lot from them invaluable but I didn't

00:39:55.619 --> 00:39:59.159
have people here And I'm kind of a social person.

00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.420
And I realized I'm passing up all these opportunities

00:40:02.420 --> 00:40:05.380
to be involved in something where I can go and

00:40:05.380 --> 00:40:08.059
socialize without it having to feel like it's

00:40:08.059 --> 00:40:10.579
just people wanting something from me. And when

00:40:10.579 --> 00:40:13.239
I started to go more to some of the events and

00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.480
some of those things, I realized that there was

00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.739
a lot of people. like me in that regard. I'm

00:40:18.739 --> 00:40:21.079
not there just so I can go get some referrals

00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.579
for my firm. I'm there because I can learn from

00:40:23.579 --> 00:40:25.099
them. I can learn about their businesses. And

00:40:25.099 --> 00:40:27.219
if I happen to come across somebody that can

00:40:27.219 --> 00:40:29.719
use their businesses, great. But also if I can

00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:31.800
share some experience with them about, you know,

00:40:31.940 --> 00:40:33.360
that I've learned. So they don't have to learn

00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:35.280
that the hard way. Or they can do the same for

00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:38.960
me. started realizing the value of community

00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:41.500
like you said right the value of belonging to

00:40:41.500 --> 00:40:43.739
a group of people who really are just trying

00:40:43.739 --> 00:40:45.659
to do the right thing out there and they are

00:40:45.659 --> 00:40:47.800
and I think that there's a level in me where

00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.900
it's that stay at home mom. I'm a nurturer. I

00:40:51.900 --> 00:40:56.800
love to just go in and support somebody and be

00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.820
a part of something. We had an event just the

00:40:59.820 --> 00:41:02.500
other night with some young entrepreneurs who

00:41:02.500 --> 00:41:05.119
had an opportunity to present some business plans

00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:09.460
and to listen to them was so incredibly inspiring.

00:41:09.820 --> 00:41:12.460
I went home that night and I readdressed my own

00:41:12.460 --> 00:41:17.000
business plan and the feeling that I got to look

00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:20.349
them in the eye and go You have a brilliant idea

00:41:20.349 --> 00:41:24.030
and what you have inside of you is needed out

00:41:24.030 --> 00:41:26.849
there in the world and don't quit Keep going

00:41:26.849 --> 00:41:31.090
keep doing like live that part of you, you know,

00:41:31.269 --> 00:41:34.949
I just to me Man, that just fills my cup for

00:41:34.949 --> 00:41:38.809
sure. And when when our cup is filled We can

00:41:38.809 --> 00:41:41.449
be the the best version of ourselves. Yes, you

00:41:41.449 --> 00:41:45.289
know, it's interesting after I you were a judge

00:41:45.289 --> 00:41:48.440
in that event, which was amazing I was just there

00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:50.940
as an attendee. Afterwards, I talked with a few

00:41:50.940 --> 00:41:53.880
of the participants, and one of them in particular

00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.539
had received a compliment from you during her

00:41:56.539 --> 00:41:59.480
presentation, and she was just beaming about

00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:03.000
it. And it just reinforced for me the impact

00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:05.539
that we can have on others when we'll recognize

00:42:05.539 --> 00:42:07.699
them, when we'll give them that encouragement,

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:11.300
when we'll give them a sincere and genuine compliment,

00:42:11.900 --> 00:42:15.539
that it gives them that strength to do more and

00:42:15.539 --> 00:42:18.619
to... Go higher than they would otherwise again.

00:42:18.659 --> 00:42:20.599
That's just kind of the value of that community,

00:42:20.820 --> 00:42:23.820
right? Yeah, so Okay, i'm gonna take us back

00:42:23.820 --> 00:42:26.039
to beating the beast real quick here. So a couple

00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:28.079
of a couple of different things and angles I

00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.039
think we can take here on this topic with beating

00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:33.639
the beast is first with marice bell's dad. Yeah,

00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:36.219
okay Yes, so tell me about bell's dad when it

00:42:36.219 --> 00:42:39.559
comes to this idea of like trying something new

00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.679
and not having the fear to do it How does that

00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:46.369
apply to marice? He he might I don't know, I

00:42:46.369 --> 00:42:48.489
have so many favorite characters in this movie.

00:42:48.969 --> 00:42:51.269
They have so many, I don't know who the writers

00:42:51.269 --> 00:42:55.789
were, but man, they nailed it. Maurice is so

00:42:55.789 --> 00:43:00.170
fun. I mean, he's curious, and he's interested,

00:43:00.389 --> 00:43:04.309
and he thinks outside the box, and he's got these

00:43:04.309 --> 00:43:06.570
great ideas, and he's going, oh, I don't know,

00:43:06.570 --> 00:43:09.030
it doesn't work, and then at the last minute,

00:43:09.150 --> 00:43:11.789
it's like, it worked, it worked, I'm going, I'm

00:43:11.789 --> 00:43:14.690
going to the show, I'm going right now, and then

00:43:14.690 --> 00:43:16.809
he runs off, and it's like the excitement that

00:43:16.809 --> 00:43:21.590
he has, and I think every entrepreneur has Maurice

00:43:21.590 --> 00:43:24.230
in him. Sure, you have to. Yeah, you have to.

00:43:24.369 --> 00:43:27.420
To try new things, and... What's so interesting

00:43:27.420 --> 00:43:29.460
too about I think the relationship between him

00:43:29.460 --> 00:43:33.900
and Belle is when we look at Belle's willingness

00:43:33.900 --> 00:43:36.780
to not worry about the judgment of others. Right.

00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.480
Think that comes from her dad very clearly. Yeah,

00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:42.619
cuz he was unafraid of that Oh my gosh, and that

00:43:42.619 --> 00:43:46.300
whole town just devoured his curiosity like they

00:43:46.300 --> 00:43:49.960
just looked at him like what a kook Yeah, I guess

00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:54.099
I was a crazy old Maurice, right? Like off he

00:43:54.099 --> 00:43:57.539
goes again like you know, and so and then his

00:43:57.539 --> 00:43:59.780
poor daughter that you know She doesn't have

00:43:59.780 --> 00:44:02.980
this father figure that is traditional and and

00:44:02.980 --> 00:44:04.820
teaching her the way of the world and it's like

00:44:04.820 --> 00:44:06.699
she got the best education that she could by

00:44:06.699 --> 00:44:09.760
his Curiosity for sure. Yeah, and and I think

00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:11.940
in part two why we could probably say that led

00:44:11.940 --> 00:44:16.519
to her curiosity of of story and books and reading

00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.320
because she had this hunger for you know thinking

00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:22.300
about things differently and reading these stories

00:44:22.300 --> 00:44:25.500
and I mean and it's like again the writers did

00:44:25.500 --> 00:44:28.059
this intentionally obviously, but when Gaston

00:44:28.059 --> 00:44:30.920
is first trying to approach her right and she's

00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:32.960
got the book and he's like what are you doing

00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.760
reading and thinking like what are you doing

00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.480
yes you're too beautiful yeah thinking yeah right

00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:41.980
whereas like for her it's like yeah that's what

00:44:41.980 --> 00:44:44.619
everybody should do and i know that because i've

00:44:44.619 --> 00:44:46.980
got a father who's instilled that love for learning

00:44:46.980 --> 00:44:49.670
and curiosity in me Which I think is really interesting.

00:44:49.690 --> 00:44:51.429
It kind of sets the stage for what her journey

00:44:51.429 --> 00:44:54.510
is. Total side note, but one of my favorite lines

00:44:54.510 --> 00:44:57.929
from Beating the Beast is he says, you know,

00:44:58.030 --> 00:45:02.260
and we'll have... strapping young men, six perhaps.

00:45:02.619 --> 00:45:06.400
And she goes, dogs? You know, and it's just like

00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:10.639
her ability to go, life is more fun than just,

00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.099
you know, strapping young men and doing things

00:45:13.099 --> 00:45:15.679
right. And let's just play with puppies and let's

00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.360
have fun. I mean, I really, it's one of my favorite

00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:22.139
lines. Yeah. Yeah. And it's so great too that

00:45:22.139 --> 00:45:25.260
she's just like, not interested in him. Not even

00:45:25.260 --> 00:45:28.119
in the least. You know, she sees well beyond,

00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:33.079
right? Not only is you sometimes have to ignore

00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:35.360
the appearance outside to understand the beauty

00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.760
within Beauty without can deceive from the lack

00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:41.059
of beauty with that from within which I think

00:45:41.059 --> 00:45:44.340
is what we see in Gaston, right? Maybe not a

00:45:44.340 --> 00:45:46.860
lot of substance there obviously a lot of substance.

00:45:46.860 --> 00:45:50.539
Yeah, and and clearly doesn't really appreciate

00:45:50.539 --> 00:45:54.679
what the value of a partner Really right, right.

00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:57.300
It's just hey, we'll make beautiful babies. Yeah,

00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:01.460
let's do that, you know, but The his charisma

00:46:01.460 --> 00:46:04.480
and character is also undeniable because he has

00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.280
all these other women that are wooing him as

00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.900
well Yeah, so it's like there's somebody out

00:46:08.900 --> 00:46:11.460
there for everybody. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, it is

00:46:11.460 --> 00:46:12.780
interesting There's obviously a lot of things

00:46:12.780 --> 00:46:15.400
that he does wrong But there are some things

00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.820
that he doesn't do that are terrible, right?

00:46:18.059 --> 00:46:22.659
Like he sees this beast right this Rally's the

00:46:22.659 --> 00:46:24.619
town. Yeah, like well, we got to protect the

00:46:24.619 --> 00:46:27.420
people from this horrible beast. Yeah Misguided

00:46:27.420 --> 00:46:29.519
and obviously we we know because we know the

00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:31.519
ending that he wasn't really a beast at all He's

00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.139
this prince and this need to have this curse

00:46:33.139 --> 00:46:36.159
lifted But uh, there are there are a few redeeming

00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:39.179
qualities for Gaston always there isn't every

00:46:39.179 --> 00:46:41.940
one of us, right? Yeah, it's yeah It is interesting

00:46:41.940 --> 00:46:44.099
when you think about Disney villains where sometimes

00:46:44.099 --> 00:46:46.480
you can see those now There's other ones where

00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:48.300
they're not it was interesting I was having this

00:46:48.300 --> 00:46:50.239
discussion with some of the other day about some

00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:54.400
other Disney villains and but a lot of them do

00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:58.530
like Hades You know, like it's his job. It's

00:46:58.530 --> 00:47:00.610
what he does. He's supposed to be, you know,

00:47:00.610 --> 00:47:02.690
he's the god Hades. He's supposed to do the things

00:47:02.690 --> 00:47:05.150
that he is. He wants to capture Hercules and

00:47:05.150 --> 00:47:07.289
it's kind of his job. But he's also like pretty

00:47:07.289 --> 00:47:09.989
funny, you know, hysterical, very entertaining

00:47:09.989 --> 00:47:13.889
villain. One that doesn't, though, is the bad

00:47:13.889 --> 00:47:19.030
guy in Mulan. Oh, like he he's the Hun. Yeah.

00:47:19.030 --> 00:47:21.889
I mean, he is just like there's nothing. They

00:47:21.889 --> 00:47:23.630
wrote that in a way that there's really nothing

00:47:23.630 --> 00:47:25.730
redeeming for him. He's there to conquer China.

00:47:26.139 --> 00:47:28.760
That's all he wants to do is take him over. He's

00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.659
just like purely the bad guy through and through,

00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:34.119
which is a little bit out of the norm for what

00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.019
Disney usually has. They usually have some redeeming

00:47:36.019 --> 00:47:38.619
qualities in these villains, but in that particular

00:47:38.619 --> 00:47:40.300
one, I couldn't really see any. Maybe tradition?

00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.039
Maybe. Maybe he's got tradition. I mean, I guess

00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:45.420
he turned to buck tradition, though, right? He

00:47:45.420 --> 00:47:47.579
wants to overthrow the emperor of China. He wants

00:47:47.579 --> 00:47:51.500
to conquer all of China. He certainly, I mean,

00:47:51.500 --> 00:47:55.130
I guess. He leads his people with passion and

00:47:55.130 --> 00:47:58.389
they follow him. Which could be terrifying. Wicked

00:47:58.389 --> 00:48:00.750
leaders can do. Wicked leaders certainly can

00:48:00.750 --> 00:48:02.630
do. We've seen that happen and it doesn't always

00:48:02.630 --> 00:48:04.690
turn out well. It does not. It can definitely

00:48:04.690 --> 00:48:08.550
be bad. So when we look at this continued journey,

00:48:09.429 --> 00:48:12.670
Maurice ends up trying to go to the fair, something

00:48:12.670 --> 00:48:14.409
like that, with his discovery and he ends up

00:48:14.409 --> 00:48:16.929
getting lost and coming upon this castle and

00:48:16.929 --> 00:48:19.429
obviously gets captured by the beast and then

00:48:19.429 --> 00:48:23.900
Belle's got to go save him. What do you think

00:48:23.900 --> 00:48:28.460
that she's facing in those moments of what might

00:48:28.460 --> 00:48:30.719
hold her back from doing it, why she decides

00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:32.860
to go do it, and then why she decides to make

00:48:32.860 --> 00:48:34.900
the deal that she makes to stay there and trade

00:48:34.900 --> 00:48:38.039
her life for her dad's? Gosh, it's such a great

00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:43.139
question. Three parts. So what what holds her

00:48:43.139 --> 00:48:45.900
back in the initial decision? Like is there anything

00:48:45.900 --> 00:48:47.440
that would what would the fear be that would

00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.760
hold somebody back? And what courage does she

00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:51.960
have to find to go and then to trade herself?

00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:56.920
I think I think the courage to know that he's

00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:02.800
safe and you know, he isn't alone and I think

00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:06.300
that with the compassion that she holds for people

00:49:06.300 --> 00:49:10.570
just shows in the entire show that she's just

00:49:10.570 --> 00:49:12.869
incredibly compassionate and accepts people for

00:49:12.869 --> 00:49:15.630
who they are. And the thought of her dad being

00:49:15.630 --> 00:49:19.869
alone out wherever and not having an answer as

00:49:19.869 --> 00:49:22.949
to what happened to him is maybe what drove the

00:49:22.949 --> 00:49:25.949
courage. Gosh, you know, I think she's just courageous.

00:49:26.389 --> 00:49:29.969
For sure she is. Yeah, I think she's just like,

00:49:30.349 --> 00:49:33.409
why wouldn't I do this? Yeah, why wouldn't I

00:49:33.409 --> 00:49:36.659
do this? And I think also why why would she not

00:49:36.659 --> 00:49:40.860
just go do it herself? I think she in those moments

00:49:40.860 --> 00:49:44.179
obviously knows that Gaston and many other villagers

00:49:44.179 --> 00:49:46.019
don't think a lot of her dad. They're not gonna

00:49:46.019 --> 00:49:48.639
believe that he's really in trouble, right? So

00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:50.159
she doesn't spend the time or waste the time

00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:51.860
to go try to convince them to help her. She's

00:49:51.860 --> 00:49:53.530
like, well, look. If this is where we're at,

00:49:53.630 --> 00:49:54.789
I'm just gonna take the step. I'm just gonna

00:49:54.789 --> 00:49:57.369
go find myself. I can do it. I'm not gonna be

00:49:57.369 --> 00:49:59.670
afraid to do it. And then obviously I think it's

00:49:59.670 --> 00:50:02.409
probably an easy choice for anybody to trade

00:50:02.409 --> 00:50:05.869
their freedom for their significant other. Or

00:50:05.869 --> 00:50:07.489
not significant other, I guess their family member,

00:50:07.730 --> 00:50:09.710
their needy family member. Probably an easy decision

00:50:09.710 --> 00:50:11.510
for her to trade her life for her dad's. But

00:50:11.510 --> 00:50:16.449
then, where does courage and fear show up for

00:50:16.449 --> 00:50:19.050
her once that happens? So she's there, obviously

00:50:19.050 --> 00:50:22.400
her dad's set free, she's now... Committed to

00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.340
being in this castle with this beast. What does

00:50:25.340 --> 00:50:28.159
that journey look like? Another one of my favorite

00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:32.079
lines from that movie is when Marie says I've

00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:34.119
lived a full life like you have your whole life

00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:39.179
ahead of you don't do this and I think in her

00:50:39.179 --> 00:50:46.460
mind she is so Comfortable in herself She's okay

00:50:46.460 --> 00:50:50.780
being alone. She knows that that doesn't feel

00:50:50.780 --> 00:50:54.260
scary to her is to be alone. I think that the

00:50:54.260 --> 00:50:56.360
one thing that has always been really difficult

00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:58.599
for me to understand is how she lets her dad

00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:01.420
go knowing that she's never gonna see him again.

00:51:02.139 --> 00:51:04.119
But maybe there was a small part of her that

00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:06.239
was like, I'll figure that part out when I get

00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:08.400
there. I'll cross that bridge when it comes.

00:51:08.860 --> 00:51:11.539
What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna be present. I'm

00:51:11.539 --> 00:51:13.780
gonna do what I need to do right now. I'm gonna

00:51:13.780 --> 00:51:16.659
gather information. This is an inventor's mind,

00:51:16.739 --> 00:51:19.159
right? I'm gonna gather the information that's

00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:21.360
surrounding me. And then I'll make the decision

00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:24.860
about my dad later. So I almost wonder, just

00:51:24.860 --> 00:51:27.599
trying to be in the head of Belle, like, I'll

00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:29.579
just deal with what I've got. I'm going to use

00:51:29.579 --> 00:51:32.619
what I have. And then that decision is later.

00:51:32.900 --> 00:51:35.179
Maybe. No, I think that's interesting. Here's

00:51:35.179 --> 00:51:36.800
something that, like, I was rewatching Being

00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:38.059
the Beast last night with my five -year -old,

00:51:38.219 --> 00:51:40.400
which was so fun. She loves it. She loves Belle.

00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.280
I noticed, and once you said it, it reminded

00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.719
me, when Maurice is first there in the castle

00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:49.420
before the Beast comes, he comes upon... Cogsworth

00:51:49.420 --> 00:51:52.480
and Lumiere right right and he's not freaked

00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:54.659
out no no not even in the least he's just like

00:51:54.659 --> 00:51:57.079
oh this is interesting he's looking at Cogsworth

00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:58.860
he's like i'm wondering how this works like what's

00:51:58.860 --> 00:52:01.280
going on here right figure out Lumiere and then

00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.079
the little uh like Dog Ottoman comes up and he's

00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:06.900
like, all right, I'll put my feet up right and

00:52:06.900 --> 00:52:09.159
mrs. Potts comes and he's like, well great I'll

00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.420
drink some drink and then little chip. Yes on

00:52:11.420 --> 00:52:15.119
his mustache Mustache right like and he's just

00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.139
like fully embracing this experience that anybody

00:52:17.139 --> 00:52:18.840
else maybe in that village would have been like,

00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:20.920
oh no This is terrible. This is bad. This is

00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:23.519
new. I can't do this. So I have to be scared

00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:25.739
Yeah, and he embraces it and I think to your

00:52:25.739 --> 00:52:28.679
point I think bell does that same thing, right?

00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.320
Obviously she's scared of the beast. I don't

00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.219
think there's any any doubt initially She is

00:52:32.219 --> 00:52:34.760
but not at the other furniture. She is curious.

00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:36.820
I don't know if there's a lot of fear. Okay,

00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:38.539
that's fair I think she's taken a bath. She's

00:52:38.539 --> 00:52:40.639
like what what is this this new? Let me think

00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:42.059
through this. Let me think through this and then

00:52:42.059 --> 00:52:44.159
with the furniture that's there She like embraces

00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:45.820
it just like her dad did. Oh, yeah, like oh,

00:52:45.900 --> 00:52:48.119
yeah i'll talk with these these alive furniture

00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:50.019
items like, okay great Yeah, i'll talk with you.

00:52:50.019 --> 00:52:52.500
Here's the dresser. Yes i'll get dressed from

00:52:52.500 --> 00:52:54.840
your innards and then she's like talking with

00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:56.849
them about you know, oh well I'm not gonna go

00:52:56.849 --> 00:52:58.489
do that with him if he's gonna act that way.

00:52:58.570 --> 00:53:00.750
So she's already confiding and building a relationship

00:53:00.750 --> 00:53:03.409
with this furniture that's alive, which is so

00:53:03.409 --> 00:53:06.010
interesting. And then she asks them for her trust.

00:53:06.489 --> 00:53:09.889
And then she says, do you trust me to go throughout

00:53:09.889 --> 00:53:13.010
the castle? Can I do that? And they're like,

00:53:13.510 --> 00:53:16.510
oh, we shouldn't do that, but you seem trustworthy.

00:53:16.690 --> 00:53:19.090
So it's like they have this instant sense of...

00:53:19.070 --> 00:53:21.550
of relationship and I think you know it's an

00:53:21.550 --> 00:53:23.710
interesting contrast to when you look at Cogsworth

00:53:23.710 --> 00:53:26.309
and Lumiere right because Cogsworth is more of

00:53:26.309 --> 00:53:28.170
that I mean just like his joke was like hey if

00:53:28.170 --> 00:53:29.829
it's not broke don't fix it like yeah we're gonna

00:53:29.829 --> 00:53:31.329
do things the way they're supposed to we're gonna

00:53:31.329 --> 00:53:33.130
follow all the rules if the master says that

00:53:33.130 --> 00:53:35.110
we're doing it Lumiere's kind of like well hey

00:53:35.110 --> 00:53:38.010
there's a girl here be our guest right like we

00:53:38.010 --> 00:53:41.030
want you to be here and hang out yeah let's have

00:53:41.030 --> 00:53:44.599
fun you know that like uh I think And set the

00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:47.780
table, because we're going. Yes. And so you have

00:53:47.780 --> 00:53:49.619
that interesting contrast, too, in the way that

00:53:49.619 --> 00:53:52.199
those two kind of approach rules and relationships

00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:54.960
and stepping into something that's maybe different

00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:58.480
and scary. Lumiere still has this almost childlike

00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:00.900
hope. Yes. Right? Like, no, we're going to do

00:54:00.900 --> 00:54:02.760
this, and everything's going to work out. It's

00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:05.699
going to be fine, right? Belle and the master

00:54:05.699 --> 00:54:07.980
will will build a relationship and it's fine

00:54:07.980 --> 00:54:09.480
because we're all gonna be saved like he's got

00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:12.699
this this hope could it get any worse I think

00:54:12.699 --> 00:54:15.619
is maybe one of the themes of the movie is it's

00:54:15.619 --> 00:54:18.000
like Well, what else could go wrong here? Yeah,

00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.739
let's just let's just live in the moment. Yep.

00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.500
Yeah, she's she's here Let's embrace this. Yes,

00:54:23.659 --> 00:54:27.500
interesting opportunity. And so as as the story

00:54:27.500 --> 00:54:32.300
goes and Belle and the beast start kind of connecting

00:54:32.300 --> 00:54:34.980
and building this relationship Walk us through

00:54:34.980 --> 00:54:36.880
kind of what lessons you have from the way that

00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.079
that kind of developed leading up to kind of

00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:45.019
the end of the story I I would see a lot of themes

00:54:45.019 --> 00:54:50.059
around I Don't want to I don't want to use the

00:54:50.059 --> 00:54:53.880
term forgiveness, but just acceptance sure Like

00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:56.820
you know what if if you don't want to do it my

00:54:56.820 --> 00:55:01.920
way then fine But you know and and maybe maybe

00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:04.969
not being stubborn I don't know. I think forgiveness

00:55:04.969 --> 00:55:08.670
could apply because look ultimately the beast

00:55:08.670 --> 00:55:12.570
captured and imprisoned her father and then imprisoned

00:55:12.570 --> 00:55:15.210
her even though you know she was in a room and

00:55:15.210 --> 00:55:18.449
not in the actual jail cell but like he still

00:55:18.449 --> 00:55:21.329
did something that was harmful and kept her from

00:55:21.329 --> 00:55:23.329
her dad and so I do think that there was some

00:55:23.329 --> 00:55:25.510
forgiveness that had to occur she had to be willing

00:55:25.510 --> 00:55:29.929
to forgive him for doing that and in so doing

00:55:30.349 --> 00:55:33.590
I mean, part of that's what enabled him to grow.

00:55:34.150 --> 00:55:36.130
Because if she just continued holding that against

00:55:36.130 --> 00:55:38.369
him, they wouldn't have the opportunity to build

00:55:38.369 --> 00:55:41.349
a relationship. And the small glimmers of compassion

00:55:41.349 --> 00:55:45.389
from him. Like, in the most backwards way, like,

00:55:45.849 --> 00:55:48.030
you will come to dinner. And it's like, okay,

00:55:48.070 --> 00:55:50.590
well, he's inviting me to dinner, but he's making

00:55:50.590 --> 00:55:53.630
me go to dinner. Like, there's some compassion

00:55:53.630 --> 00:55:56.150
there, you know? So I think she was able to see

00:55:56.150 --> 00:55:58.409
through, just like Gaston. It's like she kind

00:55:58.409 --> 00:56:00.460
of went, yay. You're just a little different,

00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:03.480
but I don't dislike you. I just I'm not interested.

00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:06.659
Yeah, so patients Yeah, when she had some patients

00:56:06.659 --> 00:56:08.980
behind her to for sure she did and she had to

00:56:08.980 --> 00:56:10.960
be yeah If she wasn't be if she wasn't willing

00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.260
to be patient with him again, I think it would

00:56:13.260 --> 00:56:14.659
just fail They wouldn't build a relationship

00:56:14.659 --> 00:56:17.219
at all. No one things I heard one time is like,

00:56:17.460 --> 00:56:19.380
oh, what did the beast really do? Like he let

00:56:19.380 --> 00:56:22.940
her go access a library that he already had But

00:56:22.940 --> 00:56:24.960
here's what's interesting. I took a different

00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:27.019
look at it when I was again watching the movie

00:56:27.019 --> 00:56:30.090
again last night Because it's a stark contrast.

00:56:30.090 --> 00:56:31.809
I mean what we have is this is the tale that

00:56:31.809 --> 00:56:34.110
was from I don't know when it was originally

00:56:34.110 --> 00:56:37.630
written, but a while ago I don't know 1500 something

00:56:37.630 --> 00:56:39.530
like that. I mean, I'm gonna get this wrong and

00:56:39.530 --> 00:56:41.429
then we have to correct it but it was a long

00:56:41.429 --> 00:56:42.949
time ago and the story was originally written

00:56:42.949 --> 00:56:47.050
in this idea of Gaston not wanting her to read

00:56:47.050 --> 00:56:50.679
a book was pretty common actually. That was actually

00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:54.099
more the norm at the time, right? Yeah, you can't

00:56:54.099 --> 00:56:55.699
think, you can't read, that's not allowed. Well,

00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:58.739
that was actually a pretty common thing. So if

00:56:58.739 --> 00:57:01.860
we look at it from that lens and say, not only

00:57:01.860 --> 00:57:05.320
is the beast willing to show her this, he's like,

00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:07.900
you can have all these, this whole thing is yours.

00:57:08.019 --> 00:57:11.840
That actually would be very different. And accepting.

00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.679
Yeah. Like oh you want to read you want to have

00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:17.360
a mind of your own and do those things Absolutely.

00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:20.000
Yeah, like here is this for you so that you can

00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:21.760
do that i'm going to embrace that even though

00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:24.139
the rest of society might say no No, you don't

00:57:24.139 --> 00:57:26.039
you don't do that. He was willing to say that

00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:28.079
it is so that actually might have been a bigger

00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:30.820
deal And I think in today's world we would think

00:57:30.820 --> 00:57:32.820
it was right because now we're like, well, yeah

00:57:32.820 --> 00:57:34.380
So you've got a library in your letter walking

00:57:34.380 --> 00:57:36.420
in like big deal good for you, buddy Yeah, right.

00:57:36.420 --> 00:57:38.320
You got a huge library. Yeah, but actually maybe

00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:41.059
that was yeah, that was something. Yeah, so so

00:57:41.059 --> 00:57:46.019
as they go I mean, it's a classic song, right?

00:57:46.099 --> 00:57:48.739
Angela Lansbury singing, Eating the Beast, Taylor's

00:57:48.739 --> 00:57:53.139
Oldest Time, where they start to build this relationship

00:57:53.139 --> 00:57:57.199
and realize that there's more to each other than

00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:00.860
they had first thought and realized, and start

00:58:00.860 --> 00:58:03.920
to build this relationship. What do you think

00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:06.300
it took for the Beast to be able to tell her

00:58:06.300 --> 00:58:09.539
that she could go? was just thinking about this

00:58:09.539 --> 00:58:11.860
and I was I was gonna present the question to

00:58:11.860 --> 00:58:15.440
you is it was like at what point did he soften

00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:19.320
enough to go your freedom is more important than

00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:23.199
mine and she had given that to her dad and so

00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:26.280
that's it's a really beautiful thing that kind

00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:29.059
of carries throughout the movie that it was at

00:58:29.059 --> 00:58:32.340
one point he just decides like I love you more

00:58:32.340 --> 00:58:35.780
than I love my freedom so just go yeah you know

00:58:36.059 --> 00:58:39.739
It actually makes me think of a song in Frozen.

00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:42.440
Okay. You know the song Fixer Upper? Okay, I'm

00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.980
not a big Frozen fan. My kids are too old. That's

00:58:45.980 --> 00:58:47.900
probably true. Oh, that makes sense. Well, there's

00:58:47.900 --> 00:58:51.119
a song in there where these little rock creatures

00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.840
are singing, and it's because one of the characters

00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:55.619
they've known for a long time, he's kind of a

00:58:55.619 --> 00:58:57.380
fixer upper, right? Okay. He's got some rough

00:58:57.380 --> 00:58:59.480
edges, right? He's the beast. Yeah, exactly,

00:58:59.619 --> 00:59:01.900
right? He's kind of, you know, he's kind of grumpy

00:59:01.900 --> 00:59:04.719
guy. And one of the things they say in there

00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:09.420
is that love is this strong force and it's powerful

00:59:09.420 --> 00:59:12.960
and strange. In that sense that love is the way

00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:15.400
that somebody can change because you can't force

00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:20.139
them to. And this powerful and strange characteristic

00:59:20.139 --> 00:59:22.179
is what allows them to do it. So when we think

00:59:22.179 --> 00:59:25.880
about love being this force that's powerful and

00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:28.260
strange and you can't force somebody to change,

00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:31.280
I think that's where ultimately this led to,

00:59:31.500 --> 00:59:37.079
right? Belle showed him kindness and that kindness

00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.679
spurred by love, not in this situation, it wasn't

00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:41.639
romantic love initially, right? Just showing

00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:44.760
him kindness and love in that way that helped

00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:46.880
him to make the change internally. And then when

00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:49.159
he did, you're exactly right, he realized that

00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:51.280
her freedom was more important than his, that

00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:54.179
it was okay if he had this curse. It was okay

00:59:54.179 --> 00:59:57.980
if ultimately they end up suffering from whatever

00:59:57.980 --> 01:00:00.400
the results of this curse were because her freedom

01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:02.860
was more important. I think it goes back to that

01:00:02.860 --> 01:00:05.380
sense of community that we've already kind of

01:00:05.380 --> 01:00:07.659
talked about, is it's like, man, it just feels

01:00:07.659 --> 01:00:10.739
so good to encourage somebody. It feels so good

01:00:10.739 --> 01:00:12.860
to tell somebody that they're capable. It feels

01:00:12.860 --> 01:00:15.320
so good to point out to somebody else all of

01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:19.400
their great qualities. And as selfish as it is,

01:00:20.699 --> 01:00:24.099
it really does make me feel better. It makes

01:00:24.099 --> 01:00:28.559
me want to give more. And so... There's that

01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:32.360
and it's like my cup is full. I'm okay. Go. Yeah.

01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:36.719
Yeah It's uh So there's there's this quote that

01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:38.760
I found as well that I think it really fits this

01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:40.559
and want to get your take on it And actually

01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:42.619
it leads directly to what you talked about at

01:00:42.619 --> 01:00:47.059
the beginning with what this Enchantress was

01:00:47.059 --> 01:00:50.139
offering to him The quotes from Ryan holiday.

01:00:50.139 --> 01:00:52.159
It's called the obstacle is the way and it says

01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:56.690
the obstacle is The obstacle in the path becomes

01:00:56.690 --> 01:00:59.789
the path. Never forget, within every obstacle

01:00:59.789 --> 01:01:03.349
is an opportunity to improve our condition. So

01:01:03.349 --> 01:01:05.070
I love it. I'm gonna read again. The obstacle

01:01:05.070 --> 01:01:08.590
in the path becomes the path. Yes. Isn't that

01:01:08.590 --> 01:01:10.230
interesting? Yes. What's your take on that when

01:01:10.230 --> 01:01:12.389
it comes to this story? Okay, so the obstacle

01:01:12.389 --> 01:01:15.750
is the path. Yeah, the obstacle in the path becomes

01:01:15.750 --> 01:01:18.909
the path. Becomes the path. That's some really

01:01:18.909 --> 01:01:24.960
deep stuff, Ryan. Yeah. Gosh, I just feel like,

01:01:25.460 --> 01:01:29.500
are we constantly overcoming something? We're

01:01:29.500 --> 01:01:32.019
always revisiting, we're always rebuilding, we're

01:01:32.019 --> 01:01:37.039
always inventing, we're always creating, and

01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:41.320
maybe we're a little bit of alchemists in a way.

01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:45.500
That it's like we have this alchemy in our life

01:01:45.500 --> 01:01:48.860
that we can do whatever we want with whatever's

01:01:48.860 --> 01:01:53.400
in front of us. And we can either fight it or

01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:56.820
play with it. Yeah. Yeah. And when we reframe

01:01:56.820 --> 01:02:01.099
it this way, that it's no longer an obstacle,

01:02:01.219 --> 01:02:04.000
that it actually is the path. I think that's

01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.460
what leads to every obstacle is an opportunity

01:02:06.460 --> 01:02:08.619
to improve our condition. Exactly like you said.

01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:12.289
So for the beast. the obstacle of becoming a

01:02:12.289 --> 01:02:14.989
beast was actually the pathway that he needed

01:02:14.989 --> 01:02:19.230
to walk to grow, to learn to love somebody else.

01:02:20.150 --> 01:02:23.250
And in learning to love Belle and being willing

01:02:23.250 --> 01:02:26.690
to free her and put somebody else's needs over

01:02:26.690 --> 01:02:29.389
his own was the path. That was the path. That's

01:02:29.389 --> 01:02:30.769
the growth he needed to have. That is the growth

01:02:30.769 --> 01:02:33.469
that he needed to have. So to flip the script

01:02:33.469 --> 01:02:37.849
on to you, so do we have to have that or if he

01:02:37.849 --> 01:02:41.610
would have accepted that? sooner would he have

01:02:41.610 --> 01:02:45.590
been at such a battle for so long? Yeah, I think

01:02:45.590 --> 01:02:50.349
it depends. I think the answer lies in the overarching

01:02:50.349 --> 01:02:52.530
story of our lives. Are there certain things

01:02:52.530 --> 01:02:54.289
where we can overcome them pretty quickly? Do

01:02:54.289 --> 01:02:56.730
we learn that lesson fast? Yes. Are there others

01:02:56.730 --> 01:02:59.710
where we're only gonna learn the lesson if the

01:02:59.710 --> 01:03:01.469
obstacle is bigger and it takes us longer? I

01:03:01.469 --> 01:03:03.409
think the answer is yes. I think we are all gonna

01:03:03.409 --> 01:03:08.159
face really big obstacles. that in the process

01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:10.559
of overcoming that obstacle is how we grow in

01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:12.940
ways we couldn't have otherwise. So I think it

01:03:12.940 --> 01:03:14.860
just depends. So like this story is emblematic

01:03:14.860 --> 01:03:17.679
of like this one particular thing and yes, if

01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:19.179
the prince had just accepted her and brought

01:03:19.179 --> 01:03:22.119
her in, then it would have, but that's because

01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:23.420
that would be a lesson he didn't need to learn.

01:03:23.579 --> 01:03:25.019
He wouldn't have needed to learn the lesson of

01:03:25.019 --> 01:03:26.719
loving somebody else more than your own comfort.

01:03:26.940 --> 01:03:28.559
But he needed to learn it because he didn't know

01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:31.739
it. Emblematic of him turning her away. Now he's

01:03:31.739 --> 01:03:33.400
got to go through this process to really learn

01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:35.380
what that is and it becomes a big one. I think

01:03:35.380 --> 01:03:38.420
we can all relate that we all have very big obstacles

01:03:38.420 --> 01:03:40.639
that we at some point in time in our life face

01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:45.119
that require a lot more of us than smaller obstacles

01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:46.780
or things that are easier for us to overcome.

01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:52.519
I almost feel like if Gaston was the only option,

01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:57.260
could he have been her obstacle? Oh, it's it's

01:03:57.260 --> 01:03:58.960
so interesting that you say that because actually

01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:02.300
We had this discussion with joey myself on an

01:04:02.300 --> 01:04:06.360
episode of this podcast That if bell had shown

01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:09.679
him the kindness and love Could he have overcome

01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:11.659
would he have softened? Yeah, could he have overcome

01:04:11.659 --> 01:04:16.019
being the kind of egotistical? You know macho

01:04:16.019 --> 01:04:18.400
macho guy right a little bit narcissistic, right?

01:04:18.539 --> 01:04:20.639
Because he actually had some good qualities because

01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:22.940
he had a lot of what the beast was going on He

01:04:22.940 --> 01:04:25.119
was just angry with himself or what? I don't

01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:27.219
know what it was that was going on with Gaston

01:04:27.219 --> 01:04:31.219
But it's like was that the practice run for her

01:04:31.219 --> 01:04:33.219
to deal with the beast. So interesting. Yeah.

01:04:33.699 --> 01:04:35.340
Yeah, it's a really good point Yeah, and I think

01:04:35.340 --> 01:04:37.519
it does show that you know when we are willing

01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:42.280
to take that time that people can change yeah

01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:44.000
people really are capable of change it has to

01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:47.579
come from them we can't force it uh but i think

01:04:47.579 --> 01:04:50.199
showing kindness and love to those people is

01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:53.400
the pathway to that happening i agree and maybe

01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:55.579
there was that familiarity of her relationship

01:04:55.579 --> 01:04:58.099
with gaston that gave her an opportunity to go

01:04:58.099 --> 01:05:01.619
i've done this before like this guy's not this

01:05:02.030 --> 01:05:04.829
Small potatoes. Yeah. Yeah. It totally, totally

01:05:04.829 --> 01:05:07.170
was. So it's like sometimes throughout life we

01:05:07.170 --> 01:05:10.309
have these obstacles that we approach and we

01:05:10.309 --> 01:05:12.789
go, oh, this is just a little bump, but then

01:05:12.789 --> 01:05:14.730
sometimes they're mountains. Yeah. Yeah. And

01:05:14.730 --> 01:05:18.250
we draw on the past experiences we had. We draw

01:05:18.250 --> 01:05:21.889
on what it was like for her father to be creative

01:05:21.889 --> 01:05:23.789
and curious, but also be rejected by other people.

01:05:23.789 --> 01:05:26.150
Yeah. Right. What did she learn from seeing him

01:05:26.150 --> 01:05:29.869
do that and being okay of being free from the

01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.019
worrying about the judgment of others. What does

01:05:32.019 --> 01:05:35.820
she learn from Gaston, you know, pursuing her

01:05:35.820 --> 01:05:37.559
in her, you know, approaching that situation

01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:40.539
and then she draws on all those experiences to

01:05:40.539 --> 01:05:42.619
lead where she needs to, which is true love,

01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:43.840
right? I guess that's ultimately what they have

01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:47.820
is true love. Okay, so I'm gonna take us to our

01:05:47.820 --> 01:05:50.119
this or that segment, okay? Two ideas, I'm gonna

01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:52.039
give you two things and you just gotta say which

01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:54.440
one you choose, okay? Might be controversial,

01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:56.519
all right? And you gotta defend it, all right?

01:05:56.599 --> 01:06:00.050
No, they won't be bad. Village life or castle

01:06:00.050 --> 01:06:03.710
life? Oh, I'm such a people person. Oh, but I

01:06:03.710 --> 01:06:07.150
love those characters. They are the people Beach

01:06:07.150 --> 01:06:13.590
life, okay, okay Maurice's workshop or The library

01:06:13.590 --> 01:06:16.530
in the castle library in the castle. I'm a ferocious

01:06:16.530 --> 01:06:18.369
reader. Okay big reader. That'd be a good one

01:06:18.369 --> 01:06:22.190
then Yeah, okay dinner with Lumiere or tea with

01:06:22.190 --> 01:06:31.059
mrs. Potts These are tough Well, well said ah

01:06:31.059 --> 01:06:34.579
I Love a good time Lumiere. Yeah, I'm there.

01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:37.800
Yeah look like it being in this song be our guest

01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:40.699
Like all that pomp and circumstance. I don't

01:06:40.699 --> 01:06:44.619
love it. How do you get up? ballroom dance or

01:06:44.619 --> 01:06:50.420
exploring the Forbidden West Wing I Am romanticize

01:06:50.420 --> 01:06:53.280
everything the ballroom dance. Yeah. Yeah, and

01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:56.820
the good one such a great scene to so well animated

01:06:57.019 --> 01:06:59.860
Yeah, and that movie like it's very beautiful.

01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:04.780
Yeah Early riser or night owl early riser. Okay

01:07:04.780 --> 01:07:09.340
same Solo road trip or group vacation. Yeah,

01:07:09.340 --> 01:07:14.860
these are solo Road trip really I would have

01:07:14.860 --> 01:07:16.300
guessed when you said your people person I was

01:07:16.300 --> 01:07:18.539
for sure like I was easy group vacation. No solo

01:07:18.539 --> 01:07:20.980
road trip. So sometimes sometimes you got to

01:07:20.980 --> 01:07:23.760
Yeah, you need that cathartic just clear your

01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:27.380
head. Yeah. Yep Okay, here's one that I think

01:07:27.380 --> 01:07:28.840
I know the answer now, but I'm gonna go with

01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:31.639
it anyways. Yellow ball gown or blue village

01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:34.739
dress? And the one that Belle wears initially

01:07:34.739 --> 01:07:37.800
when she's walking through the town or the ball

01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:40.940
gown when she's doing the ballroom dance. Can

01:07:40.940 --> 01:07:44.280
I have the dresser full of all of the garb? Done,

01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:47.400
done, you get it. I forget the dresser's name,

01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:50.010
but. Yeah, I want I want the drawers full of

01:07:50.010 --> 01:07:52.389
all of it. Okay, totally fair. Totally fair Okay,

01:07:52.409 --> 01:07:54.869
here's our rapid fire. So it's just the first

01:07:54.869 --> 01:07:58.030
thing to come to your mind. Okay favorite Disney

01:07:58.030 --> 01:08:02.309
movie Lion King Excellent. Yeah, okay another

01:08:02.309 --> 01:08:04.590
another from the Disney decade Disney Renaissance.

01:08:04.690 --> 01:08:07.590
It's a great one favorite Disney song. I'll come

01:08:07.590 --> 01:08:17.450
back. Okay favorite Disney princess Favorite

01:08:17.450 --> 01:08:22.449
Disney hero or heroine? Aladdin. Okay, I like

01:08:22.449 --> 01:08:24.170
I thought you're gonna go back to Mulan, but

01:08:24.170 --> 01:08:25.949
I like Aladdin. I like that one. He's great.

01:08:25.949 --> 01:08:29.289
Favorite Disney villain? Hades. He's so good.

01:08:29.369 --> 01:08:34.390
He's so good. I love Hades. Okay, which enchanted

01:08:34.390 --> 01:08:38.909
object would you want as your best friend? Do

01:08:38.909 --> 01:08:40.229
you think about all the different characters

01:08:40.229 --> 01:08:42.770
that were there in the castle in Beauty and the

01:08:42.770 --> 01:08:48.430
Beast? She's so sassy. The Duster. Oh, yeah.

01:08:48.850 --> 01:08:52.529
She's so sassy and just like a girl's girl. Okay,

01:08:52.529 --> 01:08:54.489
I love it. Yeah. Well, that's a great one. I

01:08:54.489 --> 01:08:56.329
was not expecting that one, but it's so good.

01:08:56.350 --> 01:09:02.850
Yes. Your ultimate dinner guest. My dad. Okay,

01:09:02.989 --> 01:09:05.390
that speaks a lot. Yeah, I love that. Okay, let's

01:09:05.390 --> 01:09:08.449
go back to favorite Disney song. Can I pick from

01:09:08.449 --> 01:09:10.989
Hannah Montana, The Climb? Is that a Disney song?

01:09:11.250 --> 01:09:13.250
Hannah Montana is definitely Disney. Yeah, I

01:09:13.250 --> 01:09:15.329
think she sings it in her Hannah Montana movie,

01:09:15.329 --> 01:09:18.840
right? Boy, I'm not a Hannah Montana like aficionado,

01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:21.439
but I'm here for it. I'm gonna I'm gonna say

01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:24.699
that one Okay, good. I have not I have not gotten

01:09:24.699 --> 01:09:26.800
that one as an answer yet. So I like it I like

01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:28.420
it because it's something different. It might

01:09:28.420 --> 01:09:31.260
not be right It might not be Disney, but I under

01:09:31.260 --> 01:09:34.079
the umbrella of her being Hannah Montana in the

01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:36.560
movie. Yeah, that's great Then yeah, perfect.

01:09:36.859 --> 01:09:39.520
Okay. I love it Okay, so as we kind of think

01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:41.739
about kind of your closing reflection thoughts

01:09:41.739 --> 01:09:45.100
about Beauty and the Beast about this kind of

01:09:45.100 --> 01:09:47.319
journey that she went on, starting new chapters,

01:09:47.579 --> 01:09:49.920
fear, stepping into it. What are some closing

01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:51.819
reflections that you have? And then after that,

01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:54.159
we'll take us into our three actionable takeaways.

01:09:55.340 --> 01:09:57.659
Closing reflection, okay, closing reflections

01:09:57.659 --> 01:10:03.020
on? On the overall movie and kind of what you

01:10:03.020 --> 01:10:04.699
kind of learned from it, what it kind of teaches

01:10:04.699 --> 01:10:06.899
us overall that will kind of lead us into our

01:10:06.899 --> 01:10:09.939
three takeaways. Gosh, there are so many things

01:10:09.939 --> 01:10:13.489
that I take away from this movie. It's just rich

01:10:13.489 --> 01:10:18.489
with lessons and knowledge and wisdom. See things

01:10:18.489 --> 01:10:23.590
for deeper, look deeper. Don't settle on your

01:10:23.590 --> 01:10:26.310
first impression. I think that's really great.

01:10:27.229 --> 01:10:29.890
Sometimes that first impression will keep us

01:10:29.890 --> 01:10:34.949
from doing something. When we too quickly make

01:10:34.949 --> 01:10:38.829
a judgment, that judgment's based in fear, and

01:10:38.829 --> 01:10:42.460
that fear keeps us from being courageous. Yeah,

01:10:42.460 --> 01:10:45.060
um, and and I think what we see from bel and

01:10:45.060 --> 01:10:47.399
from maris is their willingness to be curious

01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:50.500
their willingness to try something new even When

01:10:50.500 --> 01:10:53.060
they don't know the pathway forward and they

01:10:53.060 --> 01:10:55.680
don't know what the answer is going to be um

01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:59.460
in taking on a challenge Again with with courage

01:10:59.460 --> 01:11:04.039
to do it and with curiosity. Yes Okay, so what

01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:05.800
we like to give everybody at the end of every

01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:08.619
episode is three specific things that somebody

01:11:08.619 --> 01:11:13.899
can put into Action today or this week. Okay,

01:11:14.420 --> 01:11:16.739
so what are three actionable takeaways that you

01:11:16.739 --> 01:11:19.340
could give to somebody three actionable takeaways

01:11:19.340 --> 01:11:23.520
I'm gonna say Be present in your space and use

01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:27.020
what you have Okay, you have a lot of access

01:11:27.020 --> 01:11:31.079
to a number of things So you don't have to go

01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:34.460
out looking for anything Use use what you have.

01:11:34.460 --> 01:11:38.279
I think Bell took her opportunity in the castle

01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:42.100
be friended these characters used what she had

01:11:42.100 --> 01:11:45.539
and was able to to really get what she wanted

01:11:45.539 --> 01:11:47.359
which was to have her family in that beautiful

01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:50.899
castle yeah yeah absolutely okay number two number

01:11:50.899 --> 01:11:53.920
two okay i thought about this and it had something

01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:58.659
to do with Gaston and the beast um and we kind

01:11:58.659 --> 01:12:00.319
of already covered it a little bit and now i'm

01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:02.479
drawing a blank on what what it was i think one

01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:04.380
of the things that i heard as we talked and also

01:12:04.380 --> 01:12:05.880
i think we talked about a little bit before which

01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:09.510
was um Kind of analyzing if it's the right step

01:12:09.510 --> 01:12:11.649
and then drawing on your past experiences both

01:12:11.649 --> 01:12:19.069
good and bad to learn. Yes, yes. Yes, using both

01:12:19.069 --> 01:12:25.090
to learn. Looking at your past and knowing, okay,

01:12:25.149 --> 01:12:28.470
this tool actually has carried me to this point.

01:12:29.270 --> 01:12:31.789
And so drawing on your past and being able to

01:12:31.789 --> 01:12:33.829
use those opportunities and those lessons and

01:12:33.829 --> 01:12:36.829
wisdoms that you've. Come along the way use use

01:12:36.829 --> 01:12:38.989
your Gaston's to overcome your beasts. Yeah,

01:12:39.010 --> 01:12:42.069
right. Yeah, I like it. Yep um, and and then

01:12:42.069 --> 01:12:43.989
you know, one of the things we talked about before

01:12:43.989 --> 01:12:47.310
too was kind of the next thing would be Analyzing

01:12:47.310 --> 01:12:49.289
if you're doing it because the world wants you

01:12:49.289 --> 01:12:52.909
to or because it's authentically you yes So this

01:12:52.909 --> 01:12:55.649
is a big Maurice play, but also a very big beast

01:12:55.649 --> 01:12:59.050
play Yeah, so it's like he he was presenting

01:12:59.050 --> 01:13:03.920
himself in a way where that um matriarch or whoever

01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:05.840
she was that showed up at the door I can't remember

01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:09.000
but where she was saying hey you're not throwing

01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:11.760
you're not showing up authentically and I'm gonna

01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.979
push you there and so and then there was Maurice

01:13:14.979 --> 01:13:19.050
who was like this nutty professor who was like,

01:13:19.090 --> 01:13:20.710
I don't care what any of you guys think, I'm

01:13:20.710 --> 01:13:22.810
having a great time and I'm doing fun things.

01:13:23.050 --> 01:13:26.470
And even with Bell going, I love to read and

01:13:26.470 --> 01:13:28.510
I don't care if you guys think that that's weird

01:13:28.510 --> 01:13:31.510
and I've got my nose buried in a book. So I think

01:13:31.510 --> 01:13:36.109
being truly authentic and authenticity always

01:13:36.109 --> 01:13:40.430
wins. Yeah. And then lastly, I think one of the

01:13:40.430 --> 01:13:41.930
things that once someone's taken the opportunity

01:13:41.930 --> 01:13:44.779
to be present, look at what they have access

01:13:44.779 --> 01:13:47.199
to, draw on their past experiences and decide

01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.140
if they're going to do something that's for the

01:13:49.140 --> 01:13:50.979
world or authentically themselves. I think the

01:13:50.979 --> 01:13:52.699
last thing is really just take the first step.

01:13:53.460 --> 01:13:55.159
Gotta take that first step. No matter how small,

01:13:55.579 --> 01:13:59.239
no matter how minute, that very first step starts

01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:01.100
the momentum. You've got to start it somewhere.

01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:03.960
So starting from that, analyzing and then starting.

01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:07.840
And I think sometimes that step is just speaking

01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:11.890
out loud. This is my idea. This is what I believe.

01:14:11.890 --> 01:14:14.010
Speaking it into existence. Speaking it into

01:14:14.010 --> 01:14:17.810
existence. Well, thank you so much for being

01:14:17.810 --> 01:14:19.390
on the episode today. Thank you for having me.

01:14:19.670 --> 01:14:22.310
I really enjoyed talking with you about one of

01:14:22.310 --> 01:14:23.989
my favorites, Being the Beast. It's certainly

01:14:23.989 --> 01:14:27.590
a classic that tailors all the time. Yep. And

01:14:27.590 --> 01:14:30.970
we look forward to seeing your continued future

01:14:30.970 --> 01:14:34.170
success with Kenbury Capital, with all the great

01:14:34.170 --> 01:14:35.930
things you're doing for others in the South Valley

01:14:35.930 --> 01:14:39.779
Chamber and the community. Thank you, Ryan. As

01:14:39.779 --> 01:14:42.640
you leave this conversation, remember that yes,

01:14:42.899 --> 01:14:45.300
the past can hurt and you can either run from

01:14:45.300 --> 01:14:48.720
it or you can learn from it. So here's to learning

01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:52.079
and finding joy in the journey. See you real

01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:52.319
soon.