Aladdin (2019) and Hopeful Resilience | Mouse Ears Movie Thoughts Siblings

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Welcome to Yes and Land, where we say yes to

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the reality of yesterday and today, and we say

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and to the possibility, growth, and imagination

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of tomorrow. Welcome to Yes and Land. We are

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very excited about our conversation today. We've

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actually got the hosts of another podcast that

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we came across that we think really does a great

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job of putting some great content out there,

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fun, engaging content. And these are the hosts

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of Mouse Ears Movie Thoughts. And these three

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hosts also happen to be siblings, which good

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for them that they were able to start a podcast

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with siblings. So they must get along to some

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degree. So welcome, you guys. Welcome to our

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podcast. Yeah, thanks for having us. Thank you

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for having us. This is amazing. Well, so let's

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start out here real quick. Why don't we start

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out with a quick introduction of each of you?

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So just kind of your name. and what role you

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play in the podcast that you guys do. I know

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obviously all three of you host the podcast,

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but I think that you each kind of have some distinct

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roles or focuses that you have. So names and

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kind of what your role is with the podcast. Well,

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my name is Riley, and my role is just kind of

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like the media person. So I am uploading stuff

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to Instagram and YouTube and just trying to really

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get like our name out there and promote us. a

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lot of images and media yeah fantastic uh i'm

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caleb and i'm the editor so i'm pretty self -explanatory

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i just edit all the stuff uh i'll get like audio

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clips and send them to her if she needs them

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for marketing something but that's kind of what

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i do and i'm hannah i really like to say that

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i'm kind of the manager of it i tend to be the

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one planning the meetings and making sure we

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have episode ideas i also do the scheduling coordinating

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all of our schedules and then putting them in

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calendars for everyone to do we're i'm also the

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one uh running the website yeah perfect so i

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mean as as you can tell there's a lot that goes

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into a podcast and um you know one of the things

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that obviously y 'all are doing well is Dividing

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and conquering, setting up yourself for your

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strengths. I'm guessing that you each kind of

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do those things because you've found some degree

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of strength or inclination towards those things

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that you can all kind of maximize what you get

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to do to put on your awesome podcast. So what

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we're going to do today. Well, actually, sorry,

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why don't you explain to you what your podcast

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is? So obviously, I mean, Mouse Deer's Movie

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Thoughts, that might be self -explanatory, but

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maybe not. So give us a little bit more about

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what exactly your podcast is and what you guys

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talk about. Yeah, so basically we're a Disney

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podcast, but specifically a Disney movie podcast.

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We talk all about Disney movies, Pixar movies,

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Marvel movies. pixar theory and easter eggs we

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do movie reviews but then we also like to do

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um like games so trivia and like drafts uh we

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like to do punishments and rewards with our games

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and we try to keep it really fun um top 10 or

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top 5 rankings where we compare to each other

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and a lot of it is kind of collaborating our

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ideas about different disney movies and debating

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different opinions that we have yeah we even

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do some like themed episodes if it's like near

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Christmas or I don't know any Thanksgiving you

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know stuff like that try to do some theme episodes

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basically we have always loved Disney and we've

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loved talking about Disney with each other and

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so we decided to make it a podcast yeah and it's

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been really really fun and now what started as

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like a passion project has really become even

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more than that And it's something that we look

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forward to every week and something that we're

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really trying to grow and expand, even if we're

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still young siblings. Yeah, and y 'all have been

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doing this for quite a while. Did I get this

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right that you're more than 160 episodes in?

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Is that right? Yeah. We've been going since the

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fall of 22. And of course, we were planning in

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like the summer of that year. Wow. I didn't know

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it had been that long. It's been a while. Yeah.

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That's three and a half, almost four years you've

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been going. So obviously you're doing something

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right. And that kind of leads us into really

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what we're talking about today, which is hopeful

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resilience. And we're going to be talking about

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that through the lens of Aladdin, but not just

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Aladdin. through the live action Aladdin from

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2019, which was just a gem and a movie that y

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'all selected. So we're going to dive into a

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little bit of why Aladdin and why the live action

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over the original animated movie back in the

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early 90s, long before y 'all were born, but

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was my growing up, was my childhood. And so it's

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going to be really fun for us to dive into that.

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Let's start here. Just in case someone's listening

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to our Disney podcast that doesn't know Aladdin,

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which would be wild, but just in case they don't,

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why don't one of you kind of set the stage for

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the overarching story of Aladdin? Well, yeah,

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sure. I mean, Aladdin, to summarize it, it's

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like the story of this... First of Aladdin, the

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main character, who kind of comes from a not

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so great background in terms of like royalty

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and like possessions and stuff like that. And

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he kind of gets thrown into this interesting

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situation of finding a genie that can make his

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dreams come true. But he kind of has to balance

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what he truly wants to live with and what he

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can obtain. But it might be like fake. It might

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not be actually. real because it's just a wish

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that the genie granted for him but he kind of

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has to balance what is actually valuable in life

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and what's not and then through that you know

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we get all this comedy and we get Jafar trying

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to I mean really stop him and get the genie for

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himself and then Aladdin ends up finding love

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and finding what he really wants in life and

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realizes that the love for Jasmine is more important

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than the wishes themselves and what fake things

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he could have obtained. Yeah. And maybe a note

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on why live action specifically. In this version,

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Jasmine has a bigger role in this hopeful resilience

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topic that we wanted to talk about. And also,

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Riley specifically likes the live action Aladdin

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more than the original. And so we wanted to...

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It ended up being a really great option because

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of Jasmine's... pertinence in it and kind of

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some additions that they added in yeah yeah i

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mean also um aladdin his whole upbringing is

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just like keep keep going keep doing what he

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knows he has to do and what's right even when

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he's not in the best situations Yeah, for sure.

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So Riley, I think you just said that Riley, you're

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the one that preferred the live action version.

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So we got to dive into why, right? Give us the

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breakdown, like defend the live action over the

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classic animated feature. Well, first of all,

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I think that the soundtrack is better. I mean,

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there's at least one new song in the live action

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than the original. It's Speechless. And I love

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that song. I think it's great. I think it adds

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to the movie. and I think that I like the live

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action more honestly because it was just like

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more in my time and so I think I just have kind

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of a better nostalgic like relationship with

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it maybe if that makes sense I just like it a

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lot better wow yeah I think what's interesting

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with the additional songs is there's been times

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when certain movies have been done and have additional

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songs that I just felt like they were fillers.

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It felt like the songs were there but didn't

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do a lot for it. But I agree with you, Riley,

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which is in this particular one, Jasmine's additional

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song, I think really brings a bit more heart

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to the story. I think it really expands a bit

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more on the understanding of Jasmine as a character

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and what she's going through and experiencing.

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That's one of the major differences where there

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is something to this live -action version, which

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is seeing more of the character arc and story

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arc of Jasmine, which you get a glimpse of in

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the original animated feature, but really more

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focused on Aladdin and what his journey is. This

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one, it's bringing in Jasmine, and I think it

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adds a layer of complexity that I think is really

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good. I think it just really enhances the story

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overall. Yeah, I agree. Okay, so let's dive back

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in a little bit about y 'all's story. So you're

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three siblings who clearly love Disney, and you

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guys have been passionate about Disney for a

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while. What made you decide to go from just three

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siblings that enjoy Disney, enjoy talking about

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Disney, to actually starting a podcast and putting

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your conversations out there for the public to

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consume? Yeah. Well, I think for a while, each

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of us separately even wanted to create something

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and put it out there, whether it was even just

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a YouTube channel or a podcast. We kind of just

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wanted to be creative in that way and share that.

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And nothing was really immediately striking for

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any of us. I think we all kind of nothing was

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really filling that as much as we wanted. we

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never got off to a like strong start and then

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eventually we like had an aha moment where we

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realized we love we talk about this with each

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other every time we watch a disney movie we talk

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about this with each other for sure every week

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at least and why not make that a podcast it would

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be so easy to take our conversations that we

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already have and put them onto a podcast yeah

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and share that with everyone else we really enjoy

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having like passion that imagination and kind

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of a time to free your mind from any real world

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stressors and it's still like good thought work

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and yeah that's something we want to share with

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everyone else yeah I think it just kind of like

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it happened I just remember one day you guys

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going like hey what if we just like start a podcast

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on this and I'm like yeah sure can we like I

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guess doesn't cost any money we just need a mic

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and yeah we started out with a single mic On

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a very small table that we all were leaning in

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over and just made it work. And then eventually

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as our passion and like intensity for it grew,

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we each got our own mics. And I mean, yeah, it

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just has really developed and transformed. For

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sure. Which I love. And I think it ties in really

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well to something that Aladdin says at the very

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beginning of the movie. And I'm going to read

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this this quote and get you guys take on it specifically

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as it relates to what you guys did initially.

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So at the very beginning and he's talking about

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being a street rat and he says, if you don't

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have anything, you have to act like you own everything.

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And and so, you know. Talk me through what that

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means to y 'all when you're starting this podcast

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and initially you don't have anything. I mean,

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you've got some ideas, but you actually don't

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have anything. And what so what did you have

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at that point in time? What were you betting

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on that you could build to put out there? Yeah,

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I mean, I think that that quote really hits home

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for us in our podcast, especially in the beginning,

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because like like you were just saying, we don't

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really have anything, especially when you first

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start. and but the one thing you do have is your

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voice and your content and what you're going

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to talk about and I think that is really what

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we focused on of like as long as we can have

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good um good discussions good content and we

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can just talk and I think that really helps having

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three siblings is we have three different opinions

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and we're very close so we can bounce off one

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another and like really do like a deep dive while

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adding some laughter and fun into the mix so

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i would say focusing on the content itself and

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then you know the the mic and the softwares and

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like everything builds around that but if we

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didn't really have anything good to talk about

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it wouldn't really matter yeah a little bit of

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our beginning days was like make it till you

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make it like we don't have anything else but

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we have ideas and so we're gonna pretend like

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our quality is our like our mic quality is good

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when it was it was so hard to work with we're

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gonna edit things like the night before because

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we're having problems every time but it's still

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coming out like no one has to know and then eventually

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we're not faking it anymore we understand what

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we're doing we get a week out we know what's

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expected of us yeah because then before you know

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it it's just the truth like once you're getting

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consistent like consistent downloads then you're

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just going to grow bigger and then we were able

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to get more mics and now we never looked like

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we were struggling because now we aren't struggling

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it's almost funny to look back and think of those

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days where i mean we keep looking over there

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because the one mic is sitting in the corner

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and rejected now but yeah it's just insane to

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think of where we started with one mic we we

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really had nothing else like this It's kind of

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like you have nothing else. All you have is,

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yeah. It's kind of like a fake it till you make

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it type of situation. And I mean, don't get me

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wrong. You can definitely like hear the difference.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Throughout the podcast. But

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I mean, even when I remember way back when we

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were recording our first episodes and we were

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trying to figure out how long should we make

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this. And we expected to be like a 20 minute

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conversation or something. And then we ramble

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on for like 45 minutes and like. we don't realize

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how much we have to talk about an offer until

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we hit record yeah yeah i think that's one of

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the keys for for people and you know what i think

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what people listening can take away from that

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is that it's okay to just start you know y 'all

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believed in what you could do and one of the

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things i really heard too that that i think is

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really important is that you also were just going

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to have fun like you weren't taking yourselves

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too seriously you weren't And it sounds like

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you hopefully weren't overthinking it as well,

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that you're just getting into it like, hey, we

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have fun conversations. We enjoy it. We feel

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like we have something good we can put out there.

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So we're just going to do it. And when you when

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you're willing to take those steps, then, yeah,

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you're going to stumble along the way, but you

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can learn from it. And, you know, it's it's then

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you don't have any regrets of not taking that

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opportunity to try. And then as you go, like

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you said, now suddenly you've. Your quality is

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going up. You're suddenly discovering what your

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voices are. You're discovering that you actually

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have more to say than maybe you even initially

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thought. And none of that discovery would have

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happened if you hadn't been willing to say, hey,

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look, maybe we don't have anything right now,

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but we think we do. And we're going to build

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towards it. So one of the things I wanted to

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ask you about that I heard in some of the prep

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that we did, which is that you had numerous difficulties

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and setbacks along the way. And so maybe talk

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to us a little bit about like, what were some

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of those setbacks? What were some of those difficulties

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that you had along the way? Who wants to start?

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Start. I think in each of our areas of expertise,

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we probably had different setbacks. So for, oh

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boy. So I guess I'll go with, I'll leave editing

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for Caleb because that's a whole different one.

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That is. I guess for me, one of the biggest ones

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we've come into. one of our first biggest problems

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was running out of our initial episode ideas

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we didn't know we didn't realize how often we

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were going to be recording and how much we would

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have to say and once we kind of ran out of those

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initial I don't know it was maybe about a year

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of ideas we really had to like rethink reimagine

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what we were going to be doing what was the real

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like purpose of this podcast what did we want

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to talk about and that did a lot we did I would

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say that was one of the biggest leaps forward

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for our podcast. That was when we introduced

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Marvel, decided we were going to have more of

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a complete Disney picture. And that was really

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like a springboard that made us into the podcast

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that we have today. Because it was almost like

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we were limiting ourselves without even realizing

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it. And it took us hitting that wall of... We

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don't know what we're recording today. Like,

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we don't have something to put out in two days.

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So it really took a couple months, maybe, of

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struggle before we freed up our minds. And it's

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so much easier for us to come up with conversation

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topics and everything else. Yeah, for sure. I

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would say for the editing point of view, at least

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for me, it was just learning how to edit. I mean,

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I've never, like... taken a audio editing class

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or anything so like just watching a lot of videos

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and editing a lot of episodes and then you know

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as you get higher up it's like well hey what

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if we have like some like we create a little

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intro music little outro and then it's like well

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hey what if we like cut out that part and add

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in like a little background music or something

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and like over time it builds and builds and Yeah,

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I would say it was a big setback, a big struggle

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at the beginning of like, I don't even know what

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app to use. I don't know how to edit this. But

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then it kind of builds over time. And I would

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say another thing for you would be the scheduling.

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Yeah, that was the other thing I was going to

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say. Having three of us makes it very difficult

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at times to set up. Yeah, three people who are

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teenagers and have sports and school. It's almost

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harder to plan. I guess this is our opinion,

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but because we don't have regular work hours,

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there is almost never a time that is, like, completely,

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everyone is guaranteed to be free every week.

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So that was hard to find a guaranteed reporting

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time. And a huge setback was when you went to

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college. That would be the other one I was going

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to say. We had to figure out, okay, when is she

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coming home? Okay, we got to record now. But

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then we also need to figure out when to edit.

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And then, like, we just had to get that routine.

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We... Do you want to go? Well, I was going to

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say a big thing that we like learn, if not learn,

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like started doing after that was pre -recording

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a bunch of stuff. And then I can just edit it

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whenever and set it to upload on a certain day

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at a certain time. So we don't have to be confined

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to doing the same like routine every week so

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that something comes out. But like if someone

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has to go on a vacation for school or something

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like that. then we have an option now where we

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can still make that work. Yeah. And so much of

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this is like, we didn't even realize, like with

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Caleb, when the editing, we didn't realize what

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editing software we had. And so we like had to

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discover what we had. We didn't know how many

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ideas we had. So we had to force ourselves to

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find them. We didn't even realize that we were

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still going to be doing the podcast by the time

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I went to college. And so that was a whole other

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thing of like, we're at this point and we didn't

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think we would even still be going. But we want

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to keep going. Before we jump back in, can I

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ask you a quick favor? If you're enjoying the

00:20:54.180 --> 00:20:57.640
journey so far, will you like, rate, and subscribe

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to our show? It helps us reach more people like

00:21:00.579 --> 00:21:04.019
you. We can design and create and build the most

00:21:04.019 --> 00:21:06.880
wonderful place in the world, but it takes people

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to make the dream a reality. Jumping back into

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kind of where we were. One of the things that

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I wanted to ask you all about when it comes to,

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you know, when you're starting something new,

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especially creatively, professionally, is I'm

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going to bring you to another quote from Aladdin.

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And this is a quote from the genie. And he's

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talking to Aladdin and he says, I made you look

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like a prince on the outside, but I didn't change

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anything on the inside. Prince Ali got you to

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the door, but Aladdin asked to open it. So I

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want to get your guys' take on that when we're

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talking about this idea of hopeful resilience

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and when you're starting out with something and

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just having to take a step and a stab at it,

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even when maybe you don't have it fully developed

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or don't yet have the confidence to accomplish

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something. That's a really good quote. And I

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think that is very much true, like kind of with

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our podcast, like you can. keep on putting out

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episodes, especially in the beginning and everything.

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But there does come to a point where if you want

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it to get more, you have to do more. And so that's

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why we started media and, you know, really putting

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a lot more effort into our editing and stuff.

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Yeah, I think with anything that you're trying

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to do, it's really easy to get started and like,

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you know, make the goals and all these things.

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But I think it's really hard to consistently

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keep it going or like Riley was saying, grow

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and like strive to do better. And I think there's

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a lot of things where it can, like the quote

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was saying, get you through the door. But I mean,

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eventually you kind of got to push hard and make

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it happen yourself. You can't expect it to just

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work out for you. You have to put in the effort

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because nothing comes just easily. Yeah. The

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hope for resilience ties in of like, you need

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to get your immediate. enthusiasm and joy can't

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get you everywhere and you really need to sit

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down and sit with yourself sit with your friends

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your siblings your colleagues yes your colleagues

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to work out how you're going to move forward

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and you can't just give up at that whatever you

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did that got you to the door is good but you

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need to develop almost a new skill set to be

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able to get through that door yeah i think that's

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exactly right there's another quote it's a quote

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from mel robbins She's an author and she's got

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a really popular podcast. And she said something

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that I think is exactly in line with this. She

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said, life is gritty and hard. And then suddenly

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it is brilliant and amazing. I just love that

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because there's times where it's just hard. You

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know, you're just pushing through. You're finding

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a way to push through. And if you continue to

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do so, especially if it's something that you

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believe in. That you'll suddenly turn around

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and be like, wait a second, I'm actually doing

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something really great. I'm doing something really

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brilliant. And it's really fulfilling. And I

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really love it. And if you stop too soon, you

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don't get to that point. If you give up too early,

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you don't push through that grittiness and the

00:24:17.220 --> 00:24:20.440
difficulty. You never find that brilliance and

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that amazing that's sometimes just. just around

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the corner. Uh, it will only push through. So,

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okay. So one of the things I wanted to get your

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take on as well as is, I think it was rather

00:24:31.289 --> 00:24:32.529
that you brought it up at the beginning, which

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is this idea of hopeful resilience, especially

00:24:34.349 --> 00:24:38.369
when it comes to Jasmine and the, the nuanced

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difference here at the live action versus the

00:24:40.769 --> 00:24:42.869
animated. So maybe talk to us a little bit about

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what, what did you think of when, when you thought

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about this topic and y 'all came up with this

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topic and you thought about Jasmine? I think

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that you can see, especially in the live action,

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you can see just like kind of her life and kind

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of like, I don't know, her personality, maybe

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a lot more, especially with the song Speechless

00:25:02.650 --> 00:25:05.890
in the live action. And I think you can just

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see how like her dad and there's her royal family

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and everything. And there's that she has to choose

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between them, but then also Aladdin and like

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this completely different world. And so you can

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just. really tell like a lot more into her life

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and how she has to pursue what she really wants

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to do yeah and i think uh in the movie when she

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keeps you know rejecting these princes who are

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coming from all these other lands and you know

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she's saying no to them knowing that eventually

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she either has to marry one of them or she's

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just going to be living you know in the castle

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her entire life And so she's rejecting them knowing

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that she doesn't know what's going to happen

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in the future. And I think that is kind of the

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essence of hopeful resilience is keeping going

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on what you are trying to do, even though you

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may not know if the outcome is even possible.

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And then the live action ties into she goes out

00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:08.920
and gets it herself. And I think that's the whole

00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:12.180
point of Speechless, her song. It's like she

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believes in what she's doing and she goes and

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gets it. Yeah. Nothing's ever going to come or

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be something if you don't work hard for it or

00:26:20.779 --> 00:26:26.200
get it yourself. Yeah, this reminds me of a quote

00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:28.619
as well that I'd written down. This is from a

00:26:28.619 --> 00:26:32.119
guy named Daniel Pink. And he's another author,

00:26:32.259 --> 00:26:35.200
public speaker, kind of thought leader out there.

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And he has this quote, says, asking why can lead

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to understanding. Asking why not can lead to

00:26:44.019 --> 00:26:47.160
breakthroughs. And I was recently having a conversation

00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:50.099
with Bob Weiss, who is the former president of

00:26:50.099 --> 00:26:52.339
Walt Disney Imagineering. And I asked him what

00:26:52.339 --> 00:26:55.480
his personal why was. And he said, it's why not?

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And that was kind of his approach and the creative

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endeavors. I mean, he's worked on every Disney

00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:04.200
theme park there is. He headed up a Disney Shanghai,

00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:06.880
a Disney Tokyo Sea and worked on all the others

00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.619
as well. And I love this idea of why not? And

00:27:09.619 --> 00:27:12.579
I think that's in part what you're kind of describing

00:27:12.579 --> 00:27:15.769
here with Jasmine is. And it's, okay, why do

00:27:15.769 --> 00:27:17.470
I have to go meet with these princes? Why do

00:27:17.470 --> 00:27:19.769
I have – we have to have this law in place that

00:27:19.769 --> 00:27:21.930
requires me to marry a prince. Why do I have

00:27:21.930 --> 00:27:23.529
to do these things? And then suddenly she starts

00:27:23.529 --> 00:27:25.750
asking herself, why not? Why can't I do it different?

00:27:26.230 --> 00:27:29.250
Why can't I do something different? Why can't

00:27:29.250 --> 00:27:32.589
I be the one that breaks this trend of having

00:27:32.589 --> 00:27:35.109
to follow this ridiculous rule that's in place?

00:27:35.369 --> 00:27:38.569
And when she does, then suddenly it opens up

00:27:38.569 --> 00:27:41.890
a world of possibilities for her on things that

00:27:41.890 --> 00:27:44.680
– maybe others would have assumed wasn't possible.

00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:49.200
What do y 'all think about that? Yeah, I think

00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:53.839
a lot of our podcast has been, why not? Why we

00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.079
have an idea and we think, oh, well, that's just

00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:58.480
an idea. That's just something to throw out there.

00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:03.000
I really think, why not? Why don't we add YouTube

00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.200
or Instagram? Why don't we add a website? Why

00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:09.440
don't we include mini episodes, which are just

00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:13.420
10 to 15 minute episodes? and I think it's just

00:28:13.420 --> 00:28:15.839
so helpful we we notice a problem and we think

00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.559
gosh it would be so nice if we could solve this

00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.220
problem just by doing this and well why not do

00:28:22.220 --> 00:28:25.759
that like I think I think that a lot of people

00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:27.559
when they like think about I don't know doing

00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:30.519
something new or you know you get into a routine

00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:35.150
and then they try to overthink that and go like

00:28:35.150 --> 00:28:37.190
oh but then you know there's all this and this

00:28:37.190 --> 00:28:39.849
and that that comes with doing that but like

00:28:39.849 --> 00:28:44.450
just why not just do it like why not yeah and

00:28:44.450 --> 00:28:47.130
you you don't need to necessarily jump into whatever

00:28:47.130 --> 00:28:51.029
you want to do and expect yourself to be professional

00:28:51.029 --> 00:28:54.450
at it immediately but i mean jasmine i don't

00:28:54.450 --> 00:28:57.769
think knew that eventually this magic guy would

00:28:57.769 --> 00:29:00.009
come along or that her dad would change the law

00:29:00.009 --> 00:29:03.500
but like you know she says no she rejects it

00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:06.859
she knows what she knows is right and what she

00:29:06.859 --> 00:29:09.700
wants to do even when she doesn't necessarily

00:29:09.700 --> 00:29:13.220
know what might come of it yeah she kind of sees

00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:16.660
this third option of well i have to either say

00:29:16.660 --> 00:29:20.440
like yes or i'm just doomed forever like eventually

00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:22.640
i need to or else the legacy of the kingdom is

00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.740
never gonna keep going but she kind of sees of

00:29:25.740 --> 00:29:28.380
well there is a third option it's just not easy

00:29:29.019 --> 00:29:32.140
it's going to be hard no one is going to appreciate

00:29:32.140 --> 00:29:35.500
this decision that i'm making but it is still

00:29:35.500 --> 00:29:37.900
there and that's one of the hardest things about

00:29:37.900 --> 00:29:43.900
going through with difficult process is realizing

00:29:43.900 --> 00:29:48.000
those third options and taking advantage of them

00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.619
yeah and like nowadays things that people think

00:29:51.619 --> 00:29:54.559
are just everyday conventional things at some

00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:59.809
point someone had to think why not Why don't

00:29:59.809 --> 00:30:02.970
we have whatever the thing might be? And then

00:30:02.970 --> 00:30:04.750
someone went out and made it and now it's normal.

00:30:04.950 --> 00:30:11.569
So I'm like, gotta go do it. Yeah, I think that's

00:30:11.569 --> 00:30:14.329
right. I mean, I think so many people can adopt

00:30:14.329 --> 00:30:17.190
that more in their lives, learning the lessons

00:30:17.190 --> 00:30:21.049
from Jasmine or from Aladdin, from the story

00:30:21.049 --> 00:30:22.410
that you guys have. And that's one of the great

00:30:22.410 --> 00:30:25.970
things about Disney movies and storytelling is

00:30:25.970 --> 00:30:28.880
it helps open our eyes. for the things in our

00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:33.500
lives if if more people who have let self -doubt

00:30:33.500 --> 00:30:38.099
and fear hold them back suddenly changed their

00:30:38.099 --> 00:30:43.059
mindset to say why not to try something different

00:30:43.059 --> 00:30:45.579
to try something new or to go out for that promotion

00:30:45.579 --> 00:30:49.619
or try that new side hustle or try that new venture

00:30:49.619 --> 00:30:54.240
or start their own podcast then suddenly What

00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:56.640
we start to do is we start to build something

00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.759
much more fulfilling in our life. And, you know,

00:30:59.779 --> 00:31:02.059
one of the things I was thinking about with this,

00:31:02.099 --> 00:31:04.539
especially with the three of you together, is

00:31:04.539 --> 00:31:08.539
doing it as a team. You know, certainly Jasmine

00:31:08.539 --> 00:31:13.460
had to have that self -belief to try to do something

00:31:13.460 --> 00:31:16.900
different and more. And also she needed... kind

00:31:16.900 --> 00:31:19.920
of a team around her, right? Those around who

00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:24.500
did believe in her so that she could accomplish

00:31:24.500 --> 00:31:26.940
something different and better. And there's a

00:31:26.940 --> 00:31:29.140
quote from one of my favorite people, Simon Sinek,

00:31:29.180 --> 00:31:31.819
and he said, leaps of greatness require the combined

00:31:31.819 --> 00:31:34.500
problem -solving ability of people who trust

00:31:34.500 --> 00:31:37.220
each other. So I wonder if you can comment on

00:31:37.220 --> 00:31:39.700
that about the trust that the three of you have

00:31:39.700 --> 00:31:42.220
had to have with each other, even if you have

00:31:42.220 --> 00:31:44.500
disagreements, even if you've had things that

00:31:44.500 --> 00:31:47.740
are difficult that have allowed you to continue

00:31:47.740 --> 00:31:51.720
creating this podcast, continue putting it out,

00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.640
continue improving it and making it something

00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:55.779
really great. What does that look like? How have

00:31:55.779 --> 00:31:57.880
you built that trust? How have you fostered that

00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.259
trust and work together? Yeah, I think that's

00:32:01.259 --> 00:32:03.579
something that I mean, Simon Sinek, I've heard

00:32:03.579 --> 00:32:07.480
a lot of his videos and whatnot in my in college.

00:32:07.500 --> 00:32:10.660
And I think it is something that we've had to

00:32:10.660 --> 00:32:14.460
implement a lot, especially in my like role as

00:32:14.460 --> 00:32:17.920
manager of kind of organizing things, getting

00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:21.819
people together. It takes a lot of it's hard

00:32:21.819 --> 00:32:24.319
to find a balance sometimes of trusting your

00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.660
teammates. Yeah, I mean, trusting Caleb, he's

00:32:26.660 --> 00:32:29.220
gonna edit trusting Riley that she's gonna post.

00:32:29.869 --> 00:32:32.289
Trusting me that I'm going to let them know what

00:32:32.289 --> 00:32:35.710
they're doing before the day of, it takes a lot

00:32:35.710 --> 00:32:37.730
of trust. And I think that's been something that

00:32:37.730 --> 00:32:40.829
we've navigated throughout the years is finding

00:32:40.829 --> 00:32:47.130
that balance between each other. Yeah, I think

00:32:47.130 --> 00:32:50.369
that that is pretty much big. I mean, she basically

00:32:50.369 --> 00:32:53.839
stole the words out of my mouth. like you said

00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.240
it is it's hard because you want to like like

00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:58.500
say Caleb I want to like oh remind him okay you

00:32:58.500 --> 00:33:00.519
got to edit today you know we're uploading tomorrow

00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.480
but I need to trust that like okay he he got

00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.380
he's got that done you know like he's got my

00:33:05.380 --> 00:33:08.680
back and he has to trust that I'm you know uploading

00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.640
consistently to media and then I have to trust

00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:14.160
Hannah that you know she's getting our website

00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:18.839
done and everything there's just so much to trust

00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:21.980
and specifically with me and Riley you just reminded

00:33:21.980 --> 00:33:25.480
me of this um I will when I'm editing I will

00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:29.680
find like time stamps and like audio like clips

00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:33.279
snippets where we can post them and it'll we

00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:34.940
have like little audiograms that we'll put up

00:33:34.940 --> 00:33:38.579
of like clips of our podcast and I will just

00:33:38.579 --> 00:33:41.700
go in and put the time stamp in like a note for

00:33:41.700 --> 00:33:44.589
Riley to see And she has to trust that I'll find

00:33:44.589 --> 00:33:46.569
it and put it in there. But then I also have

00:33:46.569 --> 00:33:49.170
to trust that she'll make sure that she sees

00:33:49.170 --> 00:33:51.769
that and goes and puts it up. And sometimes we

00:33:51.769 --> 00:33:54.089
don't even have to tell each other that it's

00:33:54.089 --> 00:33:56.829
there. It's just kind of a consistent routine

00:33:56.829 --> 00:33:58.890
that we trust. As long as everyone's doing our

00:33:58.890 --> 00:34:01.849
job, everything's run smoothly. And part of that

00:34:01.849 --> 00:34:05.069
comes from reliance on each other. You kind of

00:34:05.069 --> 00:34:09.570
develop a trust because you're... You have to

00:34:09.570 --> 00:34:11.750
put in work yourself because you know that two

00:34:11.750 --> 00:34:14.130
other people are depending on you and that they're

00:34:14.130 --> 00:34:17.010
going to be expecting results at the end of the

00:34:17.010 --> 00:34:20.929
week. And so it's a way of external motivation,

00:34:20.929 --> 00:34:23.349
but really from yourself too, because you don't

00:34:23.349 --> 00:34:25.250
want to let down your teammates and you really

00:34:25.250 --> 00:34:28.550
don't want to let down your siblings. Yeah, and

00:34:28.550 --> 00:34:34.550
I think part of that is when you have clear goals,

00:34:34.730 --> 00:34:38.699
clear responsibilities, and the team functions

00:34:38.699 --> 00:34:43.500
through that clarity, then the trust comes a

00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:45.579
little bit easier because then it is clear, okay,

00:34:45.699 --> 00:34:50.260
hey, you know, here, this is when the episode

00:34:50.260 --> 00:34:52.199
comes. This is when it's edited. This is when

00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.460
we need to have it. This is when it needs to

00:34:54.460 --> 00:34:55.780
be uploaded. These are the steps that need to

00:34:55.780 --> 00:34:57.500
be taken. And you can apply that to any project

00:34:57.500 --> 00:34:59.559
that any team has, you know, in any industry.

00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.059
Whereas if you have clearly defined roles and

00:35:02.059 --> 00:35:05.860
it's clear about what is expected, then, then,

00:35:06.409 --> 00:35:08.570
It's clear that the things need to happen. And

00:35:08.570 --> 00:35:10.449
you do, you have that trust with each other because

00:35:10.449 --> 00:35:13.530
it's clear. And you also, exactly like you said,

00:35:13.570 --> 00:35:15.530
you don't want to let down the rest of your team.

00:35:15.570 --> 00:35:17.869
You know what your job is. And you know that

00:35:17.869 --> 00:35:19.530
in order for somebody else to complete their

00:35:19.530 --> 00:35:21.989
job and their portion to bring this greatness

00:35:21.989 --> 00:35:24.679
and this magic to the table. you have to do your

00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:27.800
things on the time that you committed um and

00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.400
so that you don't let them down and and that

00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.099
becomes a really helpful way for a team to build

00:35:33.099 --> 00:35:35.159
that trust is because you do you like you want

00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:36.500
to support each other you want to make sure you

00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:38.159
empower the other people on your team to be able

00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.000
to be successful as well and that requires you

00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.780
to do everything that you can do and that you

00:35:42.780 --> 00:35:45.800
need to do um one more quote i want to take you

00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:49.699
to before we hit some fun segments here is That's

00:35:49.699 --> 00:35:51.519
a quote from Jasmine since one of our big topic

00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.119
series, Jasmine, and something that she said

00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:57.300
really stuck out. And she said, our greatest

00:35:57.300 --> 00:36:00.119
challenge isn't speaking up against our enemies,

00:36:00.219 --> 00:36:04.659
but defying those whose approval we seek the

00:36:04.659 --> 00:36:06.920
most. Isn't that interesting? Let me read it

00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.860
one more time. Our greatest challenge isn't speaking

00:36:09.860 --> 00:36:13.139
up against our enemies, but defying those whose

00:36:13.139 --> 00:36:17.340
approval we seek the most. Let's get your take

00:36:17.340 --> 00:36:21.130
on that. yeah I mean I think it's a lot easier

00:36:21.130 --> 00:36:24.849
to to speak up and talk to someone who I mean

00:36:24.849 --> 00:36:26.650
if you're being honest you might not care what

00:36:26.650 --> 00:36:29.050
they have to say about you or what you say to

00:36:29.050 --> 00:36:31.849
them because like you know you if you disagree

00:36:31.849 --> 00:36:35.449
you obviously aren't the the best of friends

00:36:35.449 --> 00:36:38.809
I would imagine but you probably it's a lot easier

00:36:38.809 --> 00:36:41.429
to talk to people and stand up to them when you

00:36:41.429 --> 00:36:46.409
don't care what they think of you yeah when that's

00:36:46.409 --> 00:36:50.170
something that we've had to work I think that

00:36:50.170 --> 00:36:52.070
we've built really well actually over the years

00:36:52.070 --> 00:36:55.409
when we have discussions about okay it's time

00:36:55.409 --> 00:36:57.050
we gotta make episode ideas or something like

00:36:57.050 --> 00:37:00.030
that and we have to like present these things

00:37:00.030 --> 00:37:04.849
to each other over every month or so and it's

00:37:04.849 --> 00:37:08.769
it's hard but you do need to stand up of I don't

00:37:08.769 --> 00:37:10.150
think this is gonna work I don't think we're

00:37:10.150 --> 00:37:12.449
gonna be able to have 30 minutes of conversation

00:37:12.449 --> 00:37:15.809
or if someone has an episode or an idea for the

00:37:15.809 --> 00:37:20.550
podcast itself even it's a lot of give and take

00:37:20.550 --> 00:37:23.349
and there's reminds me of another movie quote

00:37:23.349 --> 00:37:28.070
but um in harry potter the quote of it's takes

00:37:28.070 --> 00:37:30.309
a great deal of courage to stand up to your enemies

00:37:30.309 --> 00:37:32.349
but a great deal more courage to stand up to

00:37:32.349 --> 00:37:35.409
your friends and i think that is something that

00:37:35.409 --> 00:37:37.949
we've really strengthened i would say that yeah

00:37:37.949 --> 00:37:40.550
i think it's hard because you You care what they

00:37:40.550 --> 00:37:42.250
think, you know? Like, you want them to like

00:37:42.250 --> 00:37:44.650
your idea. I'll be honest, a lot of the episode

00:37:44.650 --> 00:37:47.050
ideas I throw out there, they get shut down.

00:37:47.570 --> 00:37:49.889
I don't know about that one. I think so, but

00:37:49.889 --> 00:37:52.469
just because, like, you can't talk about them

00:37:52.469 --> 00:37:55.210
for that long, you know? Yeah. Like, oh, sure,

00:37:55.269 --> 00:37:56.489
yeah, we can talk about that right now for five

00:37:56.489 --> 00:37:58.610
minutes, but you can't turn it into a full episode.

00:37:59.030 --> 00:38:01.250
But we can make a mini. And so I think a lot

00:38:01.250 --> 00:38:05.190
of that is negotiation and compromise and, I

00:38:05.190 --> 00:38:06.809
don't know, I think a lot of working with each

00:38:06.809 --> 00:38:10.050
other and being honest. You need honesty if you're

00:38:10.050 --> 00:38:12.309
going to be a part of a team. You do. And I would

00:38:12.309 --> 00:38:15.130
say whether you're the one saying something that

00:38:15.130 --> 00:38:18.750
someone else is saying back at you or if you're

00:38:18.750 --> 00:38:22.110
the one who's commenting on the original thought,

00:38:22.230 --> 00:38:24.829
I think you have to be open to the other person

00:38:24.829 --> 00:38:27.789
might just disagree with you. And you have to

00:38:27.789 --> 00:38:30.710
be open to the fact that you guys don't have

00:38:30.710 --> 00:38:33.610
to completely agree and you can still come to

00:38:33.610 --> 00:38:36.110
a conclusion that's for the betterment of the

00:38:36.110 --> 00:38:38.730
whole system itself. That is something we really

00:38:38.730 --> 00:38:41.789
enjoy doing on episodes itself. We just had an

00:38:41.789 --> 00:38:44.809
episode about live action remake and it was a

00:38:44.809 --> 00:38:48.369
debate between Caleb and Riley because they have

00:38:48.369 --> 00:38:50.590
different opinions of what a live action remake

00:38:50.590 --> 00:38:53.130
should be about and what makes a live action

00:38:53.130 --> 00:38:57.869
good. And so much of our podcast is debating

00:38:57.869 --> 00:38:59.929
each other and like having differing opinions.

00:39:00.230 --> 00:39:02.769
And we all know by this point after years, we

00:39:02.769 --> 00:39:04.929
know some of our like hottest takes for each

00:39:04.929 --> 00:39:08.539
of us. And it's really like, a fun center of

00:39:08.539 --> 00:39:10.739
our podcast. At least for me, I really enjoy

00:39:10.739 --> 00:39:13.360
when those things come up. I mean, they're bound

00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.300
to be almost every episode. I have a hot take.

00:39:15.699 --> 00:39:19.000
Riley does have a lot of hot takes. Hot takes

00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:21.239
are great. I mean, I think at the end of the

00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.599
day, you just, you come together and you realize

00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.880
this isn't like the end of the world. If we disagree

00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.619
on this subject, it's not, you know, it's not

00:39:28.619 --> 00:39:30.219
going to break any friendships. We're still going

00:39:30.219 --> 00:39:33.840
to have a good time. Yeah. Yeah. And as you build

00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:37.400
that team and you have that trust, it, then then

00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:40.420
somebody's not threatened by somebody else having

00:39:40.420 --> 00:39:44.719
a different opinion um and and when we can embrace

00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:46.760
that that somebody else can have a different

00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:48.820
perspective a different opinion without threatening

00:39:48.820 --> 00:39:51.969
our you know safety or sense of being because

00:39:51.969 --> 00:39:54.469
it doesn't because it doesn't have to we don't

00:39:54.469 --> 00:39:56.630
have to stand in our own way then suddenly we

00:39:56.630 --> 00:39:59.829
come with better ideas we can come up with greater

00:39:59.829 --> 00:40:02.690
solutions we can problem solve in a more effective

00:40:02.690 --> 00:40:06.630
way if we'll do it and not be afraid to put our

00:40:06.630 --> 00:40:09.630
ideas out there okay so here's what i want to

00:40:09.630 --> 00:40:11.369
take you to so we do a couple of fun segments

00:40:11.369 --> 00:40:13.610
towards the end of each episode the first segment

00:40:13.610 --> 00:40:16.289
is called this or that right classic this or

00:40:16.289 --> 00:40:19.079
that everybody knows what a this or that is There's

00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.380
no right or wrong answers, but you may have to

00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:24.719
defend your controversial opinion, especially

00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:28.599
if it's a hot take. Especially if it's a hot

00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.619
take. Okay, so we'll have each of you answer

00:40:30.619 --> 00:40:32.719
each one of these, okay? And then we'll have

00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:34.460
to see if there's any healthy debate about them.

00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:39.119
Okay, here's the first one. Magic carpet or the

00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:47.719
genie's lamp? Magic carpet. Magic carpet. What

00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:50.880
about it? Like you get it. Yeah, you get it.

00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:54.179
I'm assuming. I'm going to go genius lamp because

00:40:54.179 --> 00:40:58.500
I'm afraid of heights. Yeah. Okay. That's an

00:40:58.500 --> 00:41:00.440
acceptable answer. I do think the magic carpet

00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:04.019
is a fun personality that makes the carpet pretty

00:41:04.019 --> 00:41:09.099
fun. And it lasts longer. For sure. So, okay.

00:41:09.780 --> 00:41:13.659
Let's say the Agrabah marketplace or the palace

00:41:13.659 --> 00:41:18.400
rooftop. Rooftop. Yeah, I think it's got to be

00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:26.440
rooftop, honestly. Yeah, I go rooftop. Yeah,

00:41:26.539 --> 00:41:28.420
I think the rooftop's the place to go. Just the

00:41:28.420 --> 00:41:29.860
views are going to be awesome, and you can see

00:41:29.860 --> 00:41:32.599
all of Agrabah. I mean, the marketplace is certainly

00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:34.659
an interesting place. It would be kind of fun

00:41:34.659 --> 00:41:36.500
to walk around the different shops and stuff

00:41:36.500 --> 00:41:39.699
there, but it'd be something majestic about the

00:41:39.699 --> 00:41:43.760
palace rooftop. Okay, here's a tough one. Abu?

00:41:44.590 --> 00:41:49.969
The monkey or Raja the tiger? A boo. Wow, that

00:41:49.969 --> 00:41:52.630
was awesome. Are you kidding me? This isn't even

00:41:52.630 --> 00:41:54.909
a question, guys. I'm going to go with a boo.

00:41:55.130 --> 00:41:58.230
Just because the convenience of a monkey being

00:41:58.230 --> 00:42:00.570
on my shoulder I think is a lot easier than a

00:42:00.570 --> 00:42:05.710
tiger walking into me. But a boo is the start

00:42:05.710 --> 00:42:09.110
of all Aladdin's problems. And Raja has a lie

00:42:09.110 --> 00:42:12.110
detector built in. He's pretty awesome. But he's

00:42:12.110 --> 00:42:14.960
cute and he can climb around. He'll think it's

00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:18.699
not saying I don't want anything stolen. I don't

00:42:18.699 --> 00:42:21.219
want anything stolen. But you know, like, convenient.

00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.380
I don't know. I mean, yeah. It's cool to have

00:42:25.380 --> 00:42:27.659
him on his shoulder. He could be like a security

00:42:27.659 --> 00:42:30.659
guard for you all. It's cool to have him on his

00:42:30.659 --> 00:42:32.800
shoulder, but I think I might take Raja. I also

00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.420
just like big animals like that. Yeah. Okay,

00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.480
I like it. See, I was thinking we might have

00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:40.300
some disagreement about some of these, so I like

00:42:40.300 --> 00:42:42.980
that one. I like the take on Raja being kind

00:42:42.980 --> 00:42:44.659
of the built -in lie detector because you're

00:42:44.659 --> 00:42:46.280
right, that is one of his superpowers, isn't

00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:49.880
it? Okay, here's another one. Here's the next

00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:56.980
one. The Prince Ali entrance and song or a whole

00:42:56.980 --> 00:43:02.699
new world and the carpet ride? I think I know

00:43:02.699 --> 00:43:04.340
Caleb's because he said he didn't like heights,

00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:08.250
but we'll see. Yeah. I'm going to go the Prince

00:43:08.250 --> 00:43:12.550
Ali entrance just because it's just so grand.

00:43:12.730 --> 00:43:16.050
It's like a Disney parade but with elephants.

00:43:17.929 --> 00:43:20.050
Okay, it depends on if I'm watching the parade

00:43:20.050 --> 00:43:23.949
or in the parade. Oh yeah, I don't know. Let's

00:43:23.949 --> 00:43:27.190
say watching. We'll go watching. Okay, yeah.

00:43:28.690 --> 00:43:30.570
I think I might have to take the whole new world.

00:43:32.989 --> 00:43:36.480
Oh boy. It's a good one. I mean, Whole New World's

00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.780
pretty amazing. It is pretty amazing. Yeah, and

00:43:39.780 --> 00:43:42.840
you get to see, like, everything. Like, oh my

00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.659
gosh. Yeah, okay. I'll do the Whole New World.

00:43:45.780 --> 00:43:50.880
Yes, good job. Okay, I like it. I like it. Okay,

00:43:50.940 --> 00:43:55.340
here's the next one. This one might be tough.

00:43:56.840 --> 00:44:01.239
Will Smith as the genie or Robin Williams as

00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:05.639
the genie? Oh, this is hard. This is very hard.

00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:11.539
I almost feel like each one was the perfect genie

00:44:11.539 --> 00:44:16.860
for the type of Aladdin they were in. I think

00:44:16.860 --> 00:44:20.539
it's tough because in the Will Smith one, they

00:44:20.539 --> 00:44:24.800
just have CGI and it's just him flying in blue.

00:44:25.619 --> 00:44:29.139
I think Robin Williams gives a lot more character

00:44:29.139 --> 00:44:33.920
to him. Personality? Yeah. But at the same time,

00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:38.159
that is a tough, tough choice there. I feel like

00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.199
I'm leaning towards Robin Williams, but I might

00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:44.679
pick Robin Williams. That is really hard. But

00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:48.420
again, I feel like each one fit the different

00:44:48.420 --> 00:44:51.039
roles for like a live action versus an animated.

00:44:52.139 --> 00:44:55.119
Yeah, I agree. I might take the Robin Williams

00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:57.340
role. Who doesn't love Robin Williams? Yeah.

00:44:59.469 --> 00:45:03.570
And see, this is one where my age over y 'all

00:45:03.570 --> 00:45:06.329
is a defining one here, because for me, it's

00:45:06.329 --> 00:45:07.869
a piece of cake on this one. It's definitely

00:45:07.869 --> 00:45:11.150
Robin Williams, because I grew up with it. Right.

00:45:11.230 --> 00:45:13.369
I mean, Robin Williams was the heart and soul

00:45:13.369 --> 00:45:16.889
of that movie. Absolutely hysterical. I mean,

00:45:16.949 --> 00:45:18.849
I think the one that I don't know if y 'all have

00:45:18.849 --> 00:45:25.239
ever seen. Aladdin, the musical, either on Broadway

00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:28.380
or in the traveling ones. But every time I see

00:45:28.380 --> 00:45:31.980
a genie on there, they're drawing so much of

00:45:31.980 --> 00:45:34.619
the Robin Williams humor that just makes it so

00:45:34.619 --> 00:45:36.800
funny. And I just love it. And it's not that

00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.840
Will Smith is bad, but boy, I love me some Robin

00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:43.760
Williams genie. He is hilarious. Oh, yeah. It's

00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:45.739
his own character. He really does steal the show.

00:45:46.139 --> 00:45:49.710
Yeah. Okay, here's the next one. And I don't

00:45:49.710 --> 00:45:52.030
know if y 'all are big Disneyland folk or not,

00:45:52.090 --> 00:45:53.889
but we're going to take a stab at this one, okay?

00:45:55.030 --> 00:45:59.769
Disneyland or California Adventure? Disneyland

00:45:59.769 --> 00:46:06.030
for me, personally. Okay, name me some of these

00:46:06.030 --> 00:46:08.869
California Adventure. Didn't California Adventure

00:46:08.869 --> 00:46:11.710
just open up like Marvel Campus a few years back?

00:46:12.250 --> 00:46:17.449
Yep. Really? Oh, gosh. I think I'm up to date

00:46:17.449 --> 00:46:20.849
on my California Adventure. California Adventure

00:46:20.849 --> 00:46:25.929
has Cars Land, right? It does, yeah. The Cars

00:46:25.929 --> 00:46:28.210
ride has Cars Land. It has the Spider -Man ride

00:46:28.210 --> 00:46:32.329
now. Yeah, California Adventure. I do love me

00:46:32.329 --> 00:46:38.250
Radiator Springs Racers. Mm -hmm. I think I'll

00:46:38.250 --> 00:46:42.250
go Disneyland just for the history and nostalgia

00:46:42.250 --> 00:46:44.739
of it. But they've really been doing some good

00:46:44.739 --> 00:46:46.460
things to California Adventure. I think I have

00:46:46.460 --> 00:46:47.659
to go with California Adventure because it has

00:46:47.659 --> 00:46:51.000
Tower of Terror, right? Or was it? Which is now

00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.960
Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, Guardians of the

00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:55.400
Galaxy. I think I have to go with California

00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:58.420
Adventure. Yeah, Pixar Pier is really great.

00:46:59.820 --> 00:47:02.699
Yeah, this is a much tougher question than it

00:47:02.699 --> 00:47:05.440
used to be. It used to be, especially when California

00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.679
Adventure first opened, it was a piece of cake

00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:11.059
Disneyland. But boy, they have just put out some

00:47:11.059 --> 00:47:14.139
killer rides and lands at California Adventure

00:47:14.139 --> 00:47:17.139
because Radiator Springs was not original to

00:47:17.139 --> 00:47:19.440
California Adventure. That was an addition later

00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:22.309
on. Tower of Terror was amazing. Love the update

00:47:22.309 --> 00:47:24.090
with Guardians. They now have the Spider -Man

00:47:24.090 --> 00:47:27.110
ride in Avengers Campus. I love the re -theme

00:47:27.110 --> 00:47:29.489
on the roller coaster to the Incredicoaster.

00:47:30.389 --> 00:47:34.030
Just such a fun re -theme there. I'm probably

00:47:34.030 --> 00:47:37.230
slanted California Adventure now, which I never

00:47:37.230 --> 00:47:39.010
would have thought when it first opened. It's

00:47:39.010 --> 00:47:43.349
so wild, but it is our blast. It almost feels

00:47:43.349 --> 00:47:48.300
a little traitorous, but it's pretty good. Okay,

00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.539
here's another tough one for you, I think, because

00:47:50.539 --> 00:47:53.239
y 'all have talked about kind of expanding your

00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.679
podcast into Marvel stuff. So I decided to dive

00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:57.500
into a little bit of Marvel here. And this one

00:47:57.500 --> 00:48:02.420
may be a tough one. So Iron Man or Captain America?

00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:09.019
Iron Man. That is a question. Iron Man. Captain

00:48:09.019 --> 00:48:11.739
America. Wait, wait, wait. Are we talking about

00:48:11.739 --> 00:48:14.360
like with the Civil War debate? Like, or just

00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.079
their characters? Just whatever, however you

00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:21.320
want to take it. Oh, gosh. I'm just going characters.

00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:23.960
I think I'm going to go Iron Man. Yeah, I think

00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:26.880
it's Iron Man. Oh, my gosh. I think that his

00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.679
character arc is just insane. Okay, sure. The

00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:34.800
first time I'm ever agreeing with Caleb. I do

00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.500
think he has a great arc. Although I can respect

00:48:38.500 --> 00:48:41.980
Captain America for what he believes in. Yeah.

00:48:42.829 --> 00:48:47.050
He's just so consistent. But I could see if you

00:48:47.050 --> 00:48:49.510
liked Iron Man's arc, that would be a difference.

00:48:49.570 --> 00:48:51.969
I mean, he did make the ultimate sacrifice at

00:48:51.969 --> 00:48:57.110
the end of his nap. He did. I mean, yeah. Yeah,

00:48:57.150 --> 00:48:58.769
I think I have to go with Iron Man. Yeah, me

00:48:58.769 --> 00:49:02.030
too. Iron Man's kind of funny because he's so,

00:49:02.150 --> 00:49:06.650
like, doesn't care. Yeah, he doesn't really care.

00:49:06.789 --> 00:49:13.699
Yeah. So we have, did I hear two Iron Mans? yes

00:49:13.699 --> 00:49:17.099
yeah yeah and then that one captain america i

00:49:17.099 --> 00:49:20.860
think so yeah okay okay see i knew that was going

00:49:20.860 --> 00:49:23.380
to be a tough one uh because honestly they're

00:49:23.380 --> 00:49:25.579
both so great i mean honestly they're they're

00:49:25.579 --> 00:49:28.440
just two absolutely fantastic characters i i

00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:32.349
have to go iron man for me i uh enjoyed marvel

00:49:32.349 --> 00:49:34.590
before the first iron man it wasn't that i didn't

00:49:34.590 --> 00:49:37.070
love like them but i didn't love it i didn't

00:49:37.070 --> 00:49:39.730
yeah i kind of knew spider -man but i didn't

00:49:39.730 --> 00:49:41.369
really know much beyond that and then suddenly

00:49:41.369 --> 00:49:44.630
once iron man the first one came out oh i was

00:49:44.630 --> 00:49:48.610
all in on marvel and just love iron man from

00:49:48.610 --> 00:49:52.110
that time going forward um I do think Captain

00:49:52.110 --> 00:49:55.070
America is a real close, close call there, but

00:49:55.070 --> 00:49:57.670
there's something about Iron Man that was pretty

00:49:57.670 --> 00:49:59.570
fantastic. And you're right, made the ultimate

00:49:59.570 --> 00:50:01.670
sacrifice at the end, right? It's a good call.

00:50:02.570 --> 00:50:05.710
Yeah, I might be convinced. I think even the

00:50:05.710 --> 00:50:08.469
other, what you're saying about his movies specifically,

00:50:08.750 --> 00:50:13.070
I think his movies are more like consistently

00:50:13.070 --> 00:50:15.429
have everything I want with like the humor and

00:50:15.429 --> 00:50:19.010
action. I feel like Captain America movies, Captain

00:50:19.010 --> 00:50:21.949
America movies are more like, It's not all at

00:50:21.949 --> 00:50:25.329
once funny and action. But, I mean, Pepper Potts

00:50:25.329 --> 00:50:31.309
even in Captain America. Iron Man. Oh, boy. Yeah,

00:50:31.449 --> 00:50:34.010
I think I'll be convinced by that. Yeah, Pepper

00:50:34.010 --> 00:50:37.389
Potts is pretty awesome. Okay, here's our rapid

00:50:37.389 --> 00:50:40.110
fire. So we're just going to run one right after

00:50:40.110 --> 00:50:43.150
the other and get you all's answer on each of

00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:46.750
these, okay? You ready for this? Yep. Okay, here

00:50:46.750 --> 00:50:53.820
it is. Favorite Disney movie. Tangled, live action,

00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:57.480
live. Okay, all three different. I love it. Favorite

00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:03.820
Disney song? Oh. Yikes. I just can't wait to

00:51:03.820 --> 00:51:08.579
begin. Makes sense, because Lion King. That's

00:51:08.579 --> 00:51:11.000
a tough question. That is an insane question.

00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:21.820
One Jump Ahead. Oh, that is so good. I don't

00:51:21.820 --> 00:51:25.800
even know if I have one. We'll say if we're going

00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:30.579
from my movie. I might do The Circle of Life.

00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.300
I don't know. Same movie? Well, I love the movie.

00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:39.119
All right. I don't know. We'll do just I See

00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:42.000
the Light. that's a good one that's good it is

00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:44.039
a good one and entangled i think was a little

00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:46.139
underrated when it first came out uh you know

00:51:46.139 --> 00:51:47.900
interesting about lion king i know this is a

00:51:47.900 --> 00:51:49.760
rapid fire but i gotta go off on the side i love

00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:51.679
lin -manuel miranda like he's just one of my

00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:54.280
favorites and i remember when mufasa was coming

00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:56.960
out and he was talking about lion king and and

00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:59.400
he referenced lion king being a soundtrack that

00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:03.179
was a no skips soundtrack like every single song

00:52:03.179 --> 00:52:06.889
on lion king is terrific And so I totally get

00:52:06.889 --> 00:52:09.050
why you're like one and then the other, because

00:52:09.050 --> 00:52:11.090
like, oh, everyone, you just can't skip. You

00:52:11.090 --> 00:52:12.989
have to listen to every single song on that soundtrack

00:52:12.989 --> 00:52:15.889
in Lion King because it's so good. Okay, Lin

00:52:15.889 --> 00:52:18.630
-Manuel Miranda. I do want to pick one from Encanto,

00:52:18.710 --> 00:52:22.510
but I kind of can't pick right now. I mean, that's

00:52:22.510 --> 00:52:23.989
probably where I'd go. Encanto is actually my

00:52:23.989 --> 00:52:27.320
favorite Disney movie. Um, and, but which, which

00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:29.739
song you go with in that movie is really hard

00:52:29.739 --> 00:52:33.219
because I think the scale of the initial song,

00:52:33.340 --> 00:52:35.820
Family Madrigal, where he finds what introduced

00:52:35.820 --> 00:52:37.519
every single character and what all of their

00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:40.559
things are is just such a clever song. But we

00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:42.199
don't talk about Bruno was like, I mean, it was

00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:44.539
the number one song on the charts across the

00:52:44.539 --> 00:52:46.840
country, right? Like amazing. Then you had Dos

00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:49.860
Oroguitas, which is this sweet song that like.

00:52:50.829 --> 00:52:52.929
Yeah, that's my favorite movie, y 'all. That's

00:52:52.929 --> 00:52:54.789
my favorite. I love all those songs, so they're

00:52:54.789 --> 00:52:57.869
all great. Hannah loves that movie. I really

00:52:57.869 --> 00:53:00.670
love that. Well, Hannah, you and I were right

00:53:00.670 --> 00:53:03.349
there. Girl, I got it. That's a great movie.

00:53:03.690 --> 00:53:07.429
My favorite movie. I love it. Okay, favorite

00:53:07.429 --> 00:53:12.949
Disney princess. I wanted to say Moana, but she's

00:53:12.949 --> 00:53:15.969
not a princess. Is she not? Nah, she counts.

00:53:16.710 --> 00:53:23.329
Really? She counts. Okay. Moana. For a while,

00:53:23.329 --> 00:53:25.269
it was Jasmine, but I think now... Oh my gosh,

00:53:25.289 --> 00:53:27.050
I forgot about Jasmine. I think now it'll probably

00:53:27.050 --> 00:53:29.849
be Rapunzel. I think I'm going to go with The

00:53:29.849 --> 00:53:33.809
Little Mermaid. It's still Moana. Moana is pretty

00:53:33.809 --> 00:53:39.610
good. Moana is really good, actually. When you

00:53:39.610 --> 00:53:41.710
bring up Moana about being a princess or not,

00:53:41.829 --> 00:53:45.269
isn't it in that movie? Doesn't Maui call her

00:53:45.269 --> 00:53:47.699
a princess? He's like, I'm not. And he's like,

00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:50.179
no, you are. You have a sidekick. Like, you're

00:53:50.179 --> 00:53:55.280
a princess. Yeah, I agree with Maui. I think

00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:58.820
she's a princess. Okay, how about favorite Disney

00:53:58.820 --> 00:54:04.099
villain? Scar. Yeah, I hate to go from the same

00:54:04.099 --> 00:54:08.039
movie, but Scar. Oh, interesting. Scar's a great

00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:11.219
villain. Yeah, he is. I was going to go Ursula

00:54:11.219 --> 00:54:13.480
or Scar. Yeah, Ursula. Ursula would be another

00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:17.289
good one. How about Ursula? So we got Ursula,

00:54:17.369 --> 00:54:20.250
we got Scar, and then what is another one? Scar.

00:54:21.550 --> 00:54:24.289
Oh, we got two Scars. Okay. Well, you guys are

00:54:24.289 --> 00:54:26.550
going all in on Scar. Be Prepared, great song.

00:54:26.670 --> 00:54:28.510
Again, back to the no skips. Be Prepared is a

00:54:28.510 --> 00:54:31.289
great song, but also Poor Unfortunate Souls is

00:54:31.289 --> 00:54:36.880
also a great villain song. Terrific. Those are

00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.900
really high in my list. Just for sake of a different

00:54:39.900 --> 00:54:42.440
one, I also really like Hades from Hercules.

00:54:42.500 --> 00:54:45.519
I think he's funny. I think he's a good time.

00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.820
Hades is a good villain. Okay, how about we'll

00:54:49.820 --> 00:54:54.199
end with this on the rapid fire. Favorite food

00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:57.639
at Disneyland or California Adventure, in case

00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:00.869
maybe. The funnel cakes are so good. Well, the

00:55:00.869 --> 00:55:04.489
churros. The churros. The churros are really

00:55:04.489 --> 00:55:05.969
good. The churros are really good. Yeah, Cars

00:55:05.969 --> 00:55:10.269
Land churros. I haven't been in so long on Main

00:55:10.269 --> 00:55:11.989
Street. Do we get two churros? All the bakeries

00:55:11.989 --> 00:55:17.550
have, oh, yeah. I'm going to do the funnel cake.

00:55:19.110 --> 00:55:23.170
Yeah. Funnel cake, okay. Those are good. I'm

00:55:23.170 --> 00:55:25.909
a churro guy. The churros there are just like,

00:55:26.070 --> 00:55:28.030
I don't know. Nobody does a churro like Disneyland.

00:55:28.590 --> 00:55:32.449
They're just so good. I love the churros. Okay,

00:55:32.530 --> 00:55:36.389
so what we like to do at the end of every episode

00:55:36.389 --> 00:55:40.389
is we like to give our audience three actionable

00:55:40.389 --> 00:55:43.269
takeaways. In other words, three things that

00:55:43.269 --> 00:55:45.469
we recommend that they could put into effect

00:55:45.469 --> 00:55:50.289
in their lives today or this week. And in this

00:55:50.289 --> 00:55:53.230
case, on that topic of the hopeful resilience,

00:55:53.550 --> 00:55:55.909
finding a little bit more of that hopeful resilience

00:55:55.909 --> 00:56:01.800
in their lives. What are three specific suggestions

00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:04.679
you all would have that somebody could do to

00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.179
have more hopeful resilience in their life starting

00:56:07.179 --> 00:56:11.099
this week? Yeah, one that I have, and I think

00:56:11.099 --> 00:56:13.460
all of ours are kind of habits, but definitely

00:56:13.460 --> 00:56:16.900
something you should start now. Continually make

00:56:16.900 --> 00:56:20.239
achievable goals, but never a final goal. I would

00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:25.360
say this week, make a goal list maybe for your

00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:27.900
next year of whatever project it is. and kind

00:56:27.900 --> 00:56:31.940
of think of think of what is actually achievable

00:56:31.940 --> 00:56:34.400
think of where you'll be in the next quarter

00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:36.199
the next three months the next six months and

00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:38.559
the next year but don't think of that as the

00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:42.139
end of your whatever in our case the podcast

00:56:42.139 --> 00:56:44.820
like you shouldn't ever think of your goals as

00:56:44.820 --> 00:56:49.519
a capstone so put a goal but never make like

00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:53.119
okay this is where we want to be in five years.

00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:55.360
I think if you do a five -year goal, it should

00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:59.380
be more general. I would be very wary of placing

00:56:59.380 --> 00:57:02.860
that much precision in a goal that far out. It

00:57:02.860 --> 00:57:05.940
could just, you feel limited yourself and you

00:57:05.940 --> 00:57:08.159
shouldn't feel that. You should bring yourself

00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:10.440
up. Yeah. I think, you know, what's interesting

00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:12.059
is for somebody so young, that's actually very

00:57:12.059 --> 00:57:15.679
insightful. um because i've heard a lot on this

00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:18.340
recently you know traditionally in the business

00:57:18.340 --> 00:57:20.519
world in the corporate world it's you know you

00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.260
set your 10 -year plan your five -year plan your

00:57:22.260 --> 00:57:23.599
three -year plan and then you work from there

00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:27.300
and and i think what a lot of research is showing

00:57:27.300 --> 00:57:29.980
is that you just have no idea where you're actually

00:57:29.980 --> 00:57:31.679
going to be in five years or even three years

00:57:32.190 --> 00:57:34.190
that being a little bit more generic and you

00:57:34.190 --> 00:57:36.050
could have it be a big goal, but a little bit

00:57:36.050 --> 00:57:38.250
more generic that far out actually can be helpful.

00:57:38.429 --> 00:57:41.030
And you're dialing down on the specifics in your

00:57:41.030 --> 00:57:43.630
quarterly goals and in your annual goal. So it's

00:57:43.630 --> 00:57:44.929
actually really insightful. I really liked that

00:57:44.929 --> 00:57:48.010
one. So excellent. So we've got a great actual

00:57:48.010 --> 00:57:49.769
takeaway there of, of kind of setting those goals

00:57:49.769 --> 00:57:52.889
and kind of those, those dialing in those quarterly

00:57:52.889 --> 00:57:57.150
goals three, you know, a three month and 90 day

00:57:57.150 --> 00:58:01.110
kind of period. Excellent. What else? Well, I

00:58:01.110 --> 00:58:04.530
would say, Whatever you're doing, whatever you're

00:58:04.530 --> 00:58:07.190
striving for, whatever your hobby is, write down

00:58:07.190 --> 00:58:09.750
your milestones, whether they're big or small.

00:58:10.190 --> 00:58:12.949
Write them down so that you can, one, see how

00:58:12.949 --> 00:58:15.550
far you've come for motivation to keep going,

00:58:15.710 --> 00:58:18.829
and also to track your growth, to see how you're

00:58:18.829 --> 00:58:21.389
doing throughout your time. Because I think it's

00:58:21.389 --> 00:58:23.670
really easy to, kind of like how we've been talking

00:58:23.670 --> 00:58:26.269
in this episode, just start something, but not

00:58:26.269 --> 00:58:29.369
really go through with it, or to lose the passion

00:58:29.369 --> 00:58:32.070
as you continue on with it. And I think writing

00:58:32.070 --> 00:58:35.110
down those milestones of whatever you're doing

00:58:35.110 --> 00:58:38.750
really helps you with seeing where you've come

00:58:38.750 --> 00:58:41.349
to kind of convince yourself that you actually

00:58:41.349 --> 00:58:43.510
are getting better and growing at whatever you're

00:58:43.510 --> 00:58:46.170
trying to do. But it also really motivates you

00:58:46.170 --> 00:58:48.989
to continue on with the goal. And write the date

00:58:48.989 --> 00:58:51.670
with those milestones so you can really see how

00:58:51.670 --> 00:58:56.699
fast you're progressing and how far. Yeah. It's

00:58:56.699 --> 00:58:59.280
an excellent one as well. I mean, what they say

00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:02.239
is that what you measure, you can improve. And

00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:05.599
so if you don't have them written down, you have

00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:08.380
no measurement against which to compare it in

00:59:08.380 --> 00:59:11.199
the future. So it's hard to track whether or

00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:12.880
not you've grown or you've made improvements.

00:59:12.940 --> 00:59:15.719
But by writing those goals down and then reviewing

00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:18.199
those goals when those time periods come, then

00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:21.239
you can see, okay, where did I come? Where did

00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:24.349
I fall short? What can I do to improve on? the

00:59:24.349 --> 00:59:26.670
the next goals that i set so it's an excellent

00:59:26.670 --> 00:59:33.969
one perfect okay how about number three so for

00:59:33.969 --> 00:59:36.369
this one i would say don't be afraid of reimagining

00:59:36.369 --> 00:59:38.289
your process when things don't go as planned

00:59:38.289 --> 00:59:41.150
instead use those challenges to re -innovate

00:59:41.150 --> 00:59:43.829
new pathways don't just dig deeper to strengthen

00:59:43.829 --> 00:59:47.030
a new one so like say you get a challenge you

00:59:47.030 --> 00:59:48.610
know or setback like we were talking about earlier

00:59:48.610 --> 00:59:51.719
in this episode don't like use that as something

00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:54.500
that like oh man that like that stinks you know

00:59:54.500 --> 00:59:56.840
don't let that tear you down but instead use

00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:59.539
that as like almost advice like hey this is what

00:59:59.539 --> 01:00:02.260
you can work on okay now we're gonna you know

01:00:02.260 --> 01:00:04.480
change this and change that and make it better

01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:08.179
and obviously this might not be having a difficulty

01:00:08.179 --> 01:00:12.199
but this week you can still to have a contingency

01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:16.239
plan or whatever it is um usually our contingency

01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.179
plans revolve around who's going to edit Riley

01:00:19.179 --> 01:00:21.440
and I ended up learning a little bit ago how

01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:24.360
to do the baseline bare bones of editing as a

01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:26.480
contingency plan for when Caleb can't do it.

01:00:26.739 --> 01:00:29.739
And so I think having a contingency plan and

01:00:29.739 --> 01:00:31.800
then, yeah, when something goes bad, think of

01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:35.019
three out of the box ways, kind of those why

01:00:35.019 --> 01:00:37.360
nots that we were talking about earlier. Why

01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.059
not? Why can't you do something else to overcome

01:00:40.059 --> 01:00:43.000
this problem? It was exactly what came to my

01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.369
head when you said that. was the why not so that's

01:00:45.369 --> 01:00:47.090
perfect i love that you you wrecked it right

01:00:47.090 --> 01:00:49.269
into that because that's that can really you

01:00:49.269 --> 01:00:51.289
know expand what the possibilities are so we

01:00:51.289 --> 01:00:54.809
don't get too stuck in a rut um and we can think

01:00:54.809 --> 01:00:58.050
beyond that and really open up the world of possibilities

01:00:58.050 --> 01:01:01.010
well you know thank you so much those are some

01:01:01.010 --> 01:01:04.050
fantastic um actionable takeaways that people

01:01:04.050 --> 01:01:05.869
can really put into effect in their lives to

01:01:06.510 --> 01:01:08.510
to help, you know, really bring a greater degree

01:01:08.510 --> 01:01:11.590
of happiness, of joy, of fulfillment through

01:01:11.590 --> 01:01:14.389
this hopeful resilience as we push past struggles,

01:01:14.590 --> 01:01:17.929
as we find hope in the things that we're doing

01:01:17.929 --> 01:01:21.269
in building for a great future for ourselves

01:01:21.269 --> 01:01:23.989
and for others. Been an absolute pleasure speaking

01:01:23.989 --> 01:01:27.250
with the three of you today on the challenges

01:01:27.250 --> 01:01:29.829
you faced, the resilience you've had as you've

01:01:29.829 --> 01:01:33.670
built a wonderful podcast and stuck with it for

01:01:34.460 --> 01:01:37.159
a substantial period of time, which is so impressive.

01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:38.739
And it's also so impressive that you've done

01:01:38.739 --> 01:01:41.380
so at a young age. And I think it just goes to

01:01:41.380 --> 01:01:43.260
show that, you know, regardless of somebody's

01:01:43.260 --> 01:01:46.780
age or background, that there's so many things

01:01:46.780 --> 01:01:49.239
we can learn from others. And so I appreciate

01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:51.800
the willingness that the three of you had to

01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:54.840
share your story, to share your experiences with

01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.820
our audience. I'm better off for it. I know that

01:01:57.820 --> 01:02:00.039
our audience will be better off for it. So really

01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:01.940
appreciate your time that the three of you took

01:02:01.940 --> 01:02:05.590
to be on with us today. Yeah, thank you for having

01:02:05.590 --> 01:02:08.210
us. Yeah, it's our pleasure. We really enjoy

01:02:08.210 --> 01:02:11.010
getting this chance to share our story and tell

01:02:11.010 --> 01:02:12.869
everyone more about us aside that they don't

01:02:12.869 --> 01:02:15.130
get to see on the, or hear on our podcast. Yeah,

01:02:15.150 --> 01:02:16.530
I don't even think the people who listen to our

01:02:16.530 --> 01:02:18.789
podcast are getting this much in -depth on us.

01:02:19.730 --> 01:02:22.550
As you lead this conversation, remember that

01:02:22.550 --> 01:02:25.369
yes, the past can hurt and you can either run

01:02:25.369 --> 01:02:28.590
from it or you can learn from it. So here's to

01:02:28.590 --> 01:02:32.110
learning and finding joy in the journey. See

01:02:32.110 --> 01:02:32.610
you real soon.