NFL Draft Fever, Blockbuster Trades & League Drama

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We are those guys you see these guys all the

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way over there. Well, don't forget about those

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guys I know it has been a minute. I'm Alex Hardy

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He's Nick Ferguson and it is time for the NFL

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drafts took a couple of Weeks for self -care

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some R &R I wouldn't necessarily say it was the

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quietest time in the NFL period but there's no

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better time for many NFL fans than the NFL draft

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because everyone is undefeated oh and oh record

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and There's just hope every single draft pick

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out there is going to be a hit, is going to be

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a success, is going to be a franchise player

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for your team, and that's why we got to get to

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you right now. What's going on, Nick Ferguson?

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What's going on, Alex Hardy? It is finally here,

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or not technically here, but hell, it's close

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enough. We are... It's the draft season Tuesday

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night. We're recording this Just to make sure

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we get out ahead and any hot takes that we have

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before Thursday's first round day two and three

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Friday and rounds four through seven the rest

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of the way It'll be an uneventful weekend for

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your Denver Broncos with very limited draft capital,

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but they still do have that that they still do

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have the Oh, no, that's right. They have Jalen

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Waddle instead of yeah That's right, because

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I forgot about the Jalen Waddle deal because

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that was probably one of the last things we talked

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about, you know, here right on this podcast.

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So I'm encouraged by a number of things. And

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look, even before we get to the picks themselves,

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we have a lot of excitement, a lot of moves.

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I'd say like more than usual, there's more picks

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being swapped amongst teams. And the most recent

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one, the Cincinnati Bengals get themselves out

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of the first round they trade the number 10 selection

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to the New York Giants for Dexter Lawrence the

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disrupting nose tackle that just has these Elite

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pass rushing metrics and B is become a complete

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disruption kind of guy But had some injuries

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this past season the Giants defense, of course

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Maybe one of the bright spots in a team that

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was rebuilding with a rookie Jackson dart. So

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This is a rare situation where it's been since

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1989 where the Bengals traded their first round

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pick. And I personally think they're a little

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late to the party, but thank goodness they finally

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realized this is the time to contend with Joe

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Burrow with that offense. Let's get an impact

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player and Dexter Lawrence. Yeah, man, this goes

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back to Joe Burrow making someone of a, I say

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a modest stink about where he feels he's at as

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a player. And rightfully so. He's one hell of

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a quarterback. And to be with the Cincinnati

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Bengals, usually we've seen players careers go

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to Cincinnati and Detroit to die. But Joe Barrow

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said, I'm not dying on this damn hill. And he

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changed course of the organization and forced

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them into a course correction. Because anyone

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who's familiar with anything that's happened

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with the Cincinnati Bengals, we know that they

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are cheap. Another word that you can use is cost

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effective. Frugal. Whatever adjectives that you

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want to, frugal, whatever. This is the Cincinnati

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Bengals. But Joe Burrow was just like, listen,

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I want to win, right? I want to win. And if you're

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committed to winning. There's some things that

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you have to do now. We know what the Cincinnati

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Bengals, how much money they have on the opposite

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side of the ball. But we also know the issues

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they had defensively. I mean, I watched them

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play against the Denver Broncos on Monday Night

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Football. And let me tell you, man, when I said

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it was bad and it wasn't not bad, not bad being

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good. No, that it was awful. So it was so bad

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that Trey Hendricks can say, you know what? I'm

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assigned a one year deal and I'm going to get

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the hell out of here. Go up the street. Baltimore

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but the Dexter Lawrence deal it says a lot about

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the impact that for me certain quarterbacks have

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in the organization where they can you know voice

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things or kind of put them in the ether in the

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organization say you know maybe we need to change

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what we've been doing for the last 20 years and

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I know some people say well the Cincinnati Bengals

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are crazy giving up a pick like that for Dexter

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Lawrence here's why I don't think it's crazy

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because you get a proven veteran guy that can

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come in, plug and play right now. And looking

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at the window that Joe Burrow in is in right

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now, you don't have time to wait and develop

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on a defensive lineman. And who's to say that

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you would have been able to drive a guy at that

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position, that pick that you gave up, that would

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give you the level of play. And I'll add this,

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Alex. When you think about where Cincinnati Bengals

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were last year, as far as average yards they

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gave up, per game on the ground 147 yards get

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out okay 147 so that tells you you have a run

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stopper a glass eater a guy who can plug the

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gaps and give the ball back to joe burrow and

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that's not saying that they're going to go to

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the super bowl but the defense is a whole lot

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better now than it was last year right this team

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went to the super bowl and all touch on the time

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that they went toe -to -toe with the Kansas City

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Chiefs. It was built on Lou Annamarumo's defense,

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being able to get Joe Burrow and that offense

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back on the field. It was a veteran -led defense.

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Lou Annamarumo's defenses do require a lot of

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strong safety play and intelligence in those

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positions and guys that are able to play multiple

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areas. They end up losing a lot of those guys

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in free agency, as tends to happen for teams

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that go to the Super Bowl. List they were never

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able to recover with the draft selections that

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they made first round pick on Lewis sign in this

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in the secondary You know some free agent moves

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that didn't necessarily pan out and who's to

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say that I look at Shamar Stewart's draft selection

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last year sort of a project pass rusher who didn't

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have a lot of success at Texas A &M and Who's

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to say that they could hit on the tenth overall

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pick now? I do wonder If they actually paid Trey

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Hendrickson, would Trey Hendrickson and whoever

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they take at the 10th overall pick be more impactful

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than Dexter Lawrence by himself? That's a possibility.

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You do want to have key players on rookie controlled

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contracts when you're dealing with Joe Burrow's

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contract, Jamar Chase's contract, T Higgins'

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contract. There's no history of a team that allocates

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so much of their salary cap to a quarterback

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and two receivers that can win a Super Bowl.

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They could be the first to do it, but history

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says otherwise. So I appreciate that they're

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taking the big swing. We can get into the New

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York Giants aspect of it. It's pretty boring.

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They're still multiple years away, and I'm not

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convinced that Jackson Dart is the future quarterback

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anyway. But from Cincinnati's perspective, it

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at least signals to their quarterback, we actually

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give a bleep about what we're doing. Like, we're

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going to make an effort and show you that these

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are the kind of moves that you believe in to

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get us over the hump. And that's the most important

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thing is having Joe Burrow's assurance. Yeah,

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I mean, that's what you want. I mean, you would

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rather have his assurance or you had his assurance

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that he wants to get the hell out of Cincinnati.

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You don't want that. I mean, they've been in

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quarterback purgatory for years. Now, once again,

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this whole move with Dexter Lawrence, it may

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not... kind of catapult them into being considered

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a front runner as far as the AFC is concerned,

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as far as going to the Super Bowl, but it puts

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them in a conversation. And that's all you want

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to do. Now you brought up Trey Hendrickson. Now

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Trey Hendrickson was basically placed on the

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outside. Right? He's one hell of an outside pass

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rusher. But we're talking about someone inside.

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If you have a guy inside that can command a double

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team and who can press and disrupt run game and

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the passing game, basically what you're doing,

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you're forcing everything else out to the outside.

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And that means is that you can have average to

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mediocre guys on the perimeter edges. But you

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know what? They're going to get sacks. They're

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going to eat. You know why? Because the team

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has the account for Dexter Lawrence. And we know

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what Dexter Lawrence has done with the New York

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Giants. That's why some of the Giants fans were

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not happy about it. But I like this move for

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Dexter Lawrence and the Cincinnati Bengals. But

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it also says this, you know, the GM for the Rams,

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Les Knee is famous for saying F them picks. And

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this is one of those reasons because you don't

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know what that first round pick is going to kind

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of turn into. You are projecting, you are evaluating,

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and you are crossing your fingers and hoping

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like hell that it's not gonna be like a, you

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know, J .J. McCarthy or Jake Locker situation

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or Paxton Lint situation. So to remove yourself

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from that ideology, go take a proven veteran.

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right someone that you know what they can actually

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do and here's the most important part see it

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usually takes a rookie three years before we

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know exactly what he is right you already know

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already and the timeline too for an organization

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to pick up the fifth year option if it's a first

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round pick exactly now you've avoided all of

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that now you're competitive and you hit the nail

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on the head joe burrow is a little happy Right

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or happier. So if the Bengals came to him and

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say, listen, all the money is on the opposite

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side of the ball. You want us to get you help.

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Right. So why don't you talk to the other two

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guys? Take a little pay cut. Well, for your money

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on the back end to a side and bonus, make it

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more lucrative and give us more money to go out

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and get other players. And look, we all we all

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want the same thing, Joe. We want the same damn

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thing, Joe. But we're going to need your help.

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Give us some of your money so we can go get you

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some help. I mean, it's all the flat. You know,

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it's like the butterfly effect, right? If the

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Baltimore Ravens do accept the Max Crosby trade.

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and Trey Henriksen does not end up in Baltimore.

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Maybe Cincinnati has a shot to re -sign him,

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and we don't see this Dexter Lawrence trade,

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but because Max Crosby is back with the Raiders,

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who pick first overall, will be the first, you

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know, I think the draft obviously starts with

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Fernando Mendoza. He was seeking property out

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in Henderson, Nevada, weeks ago, like... We could

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have been talking about something completely

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different knowing that the way that the Baltimore

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Ravens conducted their business Ultimately landed

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them Trey Hendrickson and the Bengals were then

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able to pivot and I mean shout out like Offensive

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linemen are certainly be flying off the board

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especially for any teams in the AFC North given

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the additions the Ravens the Bengals made to

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their defensive lines the Steelers and the Browns,

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you know always game wreckers with TJ Watt and

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Miles Garrett respectively, so I'm not going

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to belabor you with my Jackson Dart is not a

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franchise quarterback take because Jackson Dart

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isn't a franchise quarterback. So the Giants

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getting as many draft picks as they can now is

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great. They're still going to be terrible next

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year. And who knows? They may even be able to

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take another quarterback in 2027. Just put it

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out there. Just put it out there. Here's what

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happens in that situation. We already know who

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runs the room. with the New York Giants. Well,

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it's John Harbaugh who apparently didn't want

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to work out a deal with Dexter Lawrence. That's

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the other piece of it. They were reportedly working

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on a contract extension and John Harbaugh, who's

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supposed to be the adult in the room, ultimately,

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look, maybe they didn't know they were going

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to get the 10th overall pick for him, but they

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didn't want to do exactly what Lawrence and his

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agents asked them to do. Is that Harbaugh in

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the right? I guess if they get the 10th overall

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pick, the answer is yes. Listen, we won't really

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know who won this whole battle. I guess for the

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giant side, right away, three years from now,

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let's take a look at it. From a Cincinnati side,

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we're just kind of look at it and we get early

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indicators, you know, based on maybe week six

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or week seven in the season, how well the defense

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is doing, especially from a running standpoint.

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But here's the other thing that happened with

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this particular trade. And I always tell people

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because every single year, every month everyone

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in their mama comes out with a damn mock draft

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even some basement scouts right have mock drafts

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or garage scouts yeah and it gets to uh mock

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draft 6 .0 and i'm like well why do you why are

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you at a 6 .0 that that's because you change

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you move the goalposts right and Things in the

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draft don't always happen the way that we want

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them to happen. And I say, a lot of those draft

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predictions are like filling out a March Madness

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bracket. At some point in the first round, your

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bracket is busted. And basically what the Dexter

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Lawrence trade did, it busted a bracket because

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where every mock draft by the draft experts were

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saying, this player is going to go here, here

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and there. now that's been disrupted because

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cincinnati's not on the ball on the board anymore

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and you got what what is the giants with the

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fifth pick five and ten five and ten so that

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changes the draft so a lot of those elite players

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that were scheduled to go in the top 15 the top

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20 now that has pushed everything down so that's

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where the denver broncos are sitting at 62 saying

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oh yeah we in the prime spot Because guess what?

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We don't have to give up draft capital to move

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into the first round. No, no, no, no, we don't

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have to do that, Alex. We can just stay in pack.

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Or if there's a guy that's still on the board,

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right? Still on the board, and we're talking

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about at spot 42 or spot 50, maybe the Broncos

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will say, you know what? Let's move up and get

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our guy and give up draft capital like F them

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picks in 27 and give up some of those picks to

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move up. Well, there's like, there's no telling,

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right? Like there's just, you know, you use your

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Miami Dolphins trade, for example. You know,

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they obviously have the 30th pick and they, I

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believe they pick, their original pick was 11,

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right? So they have 11 and 30. And then at that

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point, they have four picks in the third round.

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So it's like, if teams covet somebody that can

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be a few spots ahead, you know, they can just...

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bundle those picks together. And you know, for

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a roster like Miami, I wouldn't necessarily advise

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that because at this point they need quantity

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and quality, not one over the other, but like

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the movement is always the fun part of it. And

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I think we're talking ourselves into this Nick,

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because you're talking about players falling

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down the board, maybe because we're talking about

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a top heavy draft. We've got certainly a gifted

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quarterback, but one that isn't necessarily You

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know giving us the athletic traits off the chart

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like we had seen in previous number one picks

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and beyond that You're looking at some developmental

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players defensive heavy You know wide receivers

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with injury histories So look there's an argument

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to be made and it's a lot of it to do with the

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quarterback class Nick that maybe Cincinnati

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wanted out of the first round because they couldn't

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get anybody they could pair on a roster ready

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to win with pick 10. Maybe this is a draft that's

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weaker than others. Why are the New York Jets

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focused in on acquiring 2027 draft capital when

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they made the move with Dallas to move on from

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Quinn and Williams and ensuring that they get

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the best of a certain packer or cowboy pick when

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it came to the No, not the soft corner trade.

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No, the Quinn and Deal. They were hoping to get

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the best pick available or possible to them of

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those two teams in 2027. I'm rambling because

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at least one franchise that I know, your guy

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Aaron Glenn, they're angling themselves to be

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in as advantageous of a position for 2027. Now

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that must mean the 2026 draft class is weak.

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Cincinnati wanted out and the Jets are maneuvering

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as best as they can for 2027. No, no, that's

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not that's not true. I don't see it that way.

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The Cincinnati Bengals saw an opportunity and

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they were saying, OK, well, high risk, high reward.

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and they were evaluating experience versus inexperience

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in projections. But more important for them,

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they're in a different situation than the Jets

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find themselves. The Cincinnati Bengals, even

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as bad as their defense is, and I think you would

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agree with me on this one, they're closer to

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the Super Bowl than the Jets would be at this

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particular point. There might be 31 teams closer

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to the Super Bowl than the New York Jets right

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now. Exactly. So what the Brown family say, look,

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We know the division that we're in. We're playing

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against Lamar. right? And we don't know who's

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going to be the quarterback Shador or Deshaun

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Watson in Cleveland, but we know we need to be

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prepared. So that's why they went out. And they

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got more value in their mind getting a barely

00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.740
veteran player opposed to a rookie player who

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may not even play 80 % of the snaps all season

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long. But the Jets, what they're doing, they're

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trying to stack the deck. They know they're not

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going to be great in 2026. So they're saying,

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okay, well, we hope to win certain amount of

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games in 2026 to make the fans at least happy

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where they're not calling for Aaron Glenn's job

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and then that would get us to 2027 where we have

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more top picks and when we look at the 2027 draft

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it is said to be a better draft all because of

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damn quarterbacks that's it it's like It blows

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my mind how so many people grade and evaluate

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drafts based on the damn quarterbacks. The quarterbacks

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not the end all be all because I've never seen

00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:49.200
the quarterback throw it and catch it. I've never

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seen. Well, Marcus Mariota did throw it. Yes.

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That's the only that's the only quarterback I've

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ever seen that happen with. But they don't play

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defense. They don't get stops. So you have to

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build a team. And that's what the Jets are hoping.

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But the only problem with that philosophy is

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that The Jets fans are impatient. Aaron Glenn

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is not going to have that much time to turn this

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team around. He might be turning the team around

00:18:16.829 --> 00:18:20.670
to hand it off to another coach, right? And that

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would be sad and unfortunate as a former Jets

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player and the teammate of Aaron Glenn to watch

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him kind of go down because the fan base was

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impatient. But the idea is this is going to be

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extraordinary first round and it's going to be

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interesting to see What the Jets do at two do

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they stay at two or do they say you know what?

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Let's collect some more picks for 2027. Yeah,

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I think they're gonna stay put it just a bit

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like They're gonna get the best defensive player

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on the board. You know, that's that's that's

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how I see it and if Aaron Glenn says that He'd

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rather be sign off. Let's say to go in another

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direction rather than get If you believe it's

00:19:02.509 --> 00:19:04.269
our bell Reese if you believe it's Reuben Bain

00:19:04.269 --> 00:19:09.930
David Bailey It just goes to show that this Really

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you think so an off -ball linebacker at two The

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just need defense they need to turn the ball

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over I mean Eric Glenn is a demons a coach He

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said he's gonna call the defense this year and

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what better way to stick it to the Giants, right?

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What better way to stick it to the Giants than

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taking a guy? That they want it. They want so

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we know they we know that the Giants want him

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I understand that you still have to make the

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best decision for the organization independent

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of what another team wants Sure, we can throw

00:19:42.049 --> 00:19:44.390
sunny styles in the conversation. But I just

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think the reality is is that the guys that perform

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at the Underwear Olympics don't necessarily always

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great out to be a team's top prospect we we you

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know on the outside me on the outside more so

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than you nick may enjoy it as much as anybody

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but i i just yeah styles is is an option to go

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anywhere in the top 10 um i'd lean closer five

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to ten rather than one through five or two through

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five but that's just my own you know amateur

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opinion to it just because of the effect that

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that Defensive player can have on the game, you

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know just being able to line up and go attack

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ball That's why the edge rushers are paid as

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much as they are It's just that's that's the

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way the business of the NFL works is to covet

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that position Let me Toss out a name. Mm -hmm

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that both Jets and Giants fans are well aware

00:20:39.190 --> 00:20:43.769
of right Lawrence Taylor, right? What if Lawrence

00:20:43.769 --> 00:20:48.470
Taylor was in? a Jets uniform. Sure, and I know

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he went too overall. Are we saying Sonny Styles

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coming out looking like Lawrence Taylor here?

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I didn't see that personally. I'm not saying

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that I see that and I'm projecting that, but

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I know how this game works. You want impact players

00:21:02.190 --> 00:21:06.769
that impact what is considered to be not my words,

00:21:07.170 --> 00:21:09.809
but the most important position, quarterback.

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You can only do that the closer you are to the

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ball. So you want guys who can actually do that.

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Think about Brian Burns. Sure. Am I not talking

00:21:19.859 --> 00:21:21.880
about edge rushers here? And that's why I'm against

00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:24.980
Sonny Styles. I'm talking edge rushers for the

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top five. You know, like other than Cleveland,

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I think edge rushers in play for everybody outside

00:21:31.180 --> 00:21:33.799
of Vegas and Cleveland in the top 10. See, once

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again, see, see, it all depends, Alex. It all

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depends because I know you mentioned, well, based

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on what's happening in the AFC, we could see

00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:45.759
teams. have a run on office alignment. Some teams

00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:49.440
may do that. But I know the things that make

00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:54.319
those office alignment, their jobs, hell makes

00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:56.359
it I'm talking about we talk about lookout blocks.

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And what I mean by that, oh, guy just ran by

00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:02.420
you. Yeah. Look out. Yeah. So so if you want

00:22:02.420 --> 00:22:04.480
to take an office alignment, go right ahead.

00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:07.779
I'm going to take an edge rusher because so you

00:22:07.779 --> 00:22:10.819
can't have Enough with those guys. I don't disagree

00:22:10.819 --> 00:22:12.920
with you and that's the fallout like for me That's

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really where the draft starts is three for Arizona

00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.819
who are doing the best that they can to try to

00:22:18.819 --> 00:22:22.720
Well, we could take Jeremiah love we could please

00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:24.940
somebody trade with us Please for the love of

00:22:24.940 --> 00:22:27.539
like, please let us move down. Let us get more

00:22:27.539 --> 00:22:31.099
picks That that's that's in it like you you hit

00:22:31.099 --> 00:22:32.859
the nail on the head I think for that team in

00:22:32.859 --> 00:22:36.190
particular because philosophically they're not

00:22:36.190 --> 00:22:38.690
looking at Gardner -Minshew or Jacobi -Bresset

00:22:38.690 --> 00:22:41.569
as their future long term. Do they install the

00:22:41.569 --> 00:22:45.170
left tackle for the QB of the future that is

00:22:45.170 --> 00:22:48.990
not on the roster currently, or do they get the

00:22:48.990 --> 00:22:53.190
edge rusher to help that defense? and then get

00:22:53.190 --> 00:22:55.150
themselves prepared to find a quarterback in

00:22:55.150 --> 00:22:57.490
the future. Like that for me is really the starting

00:22:57.490 --> 00:22:59.690
point of the draft because we sort of believe

00:22:59.690 --> 00:23:01.490
the Jets are going to go defense whether it's

00:23:01.490 --> 00:23:03.470
one of those edge rushers or you put Sonny Stiles

00:23:03.470 --> 00:23:05.890
in there. I like the draft starting at three.

00:23:06.529 --> 00:23:09.609
I think your guy Bob Sala at four. Jeremiah Love

00:23:09.609 --> 00:23:11.990
is tantalizing but I think they go defense as

00:23:11.990 --> 00:23:16.730
well. It's just there's a lot on the line here

00:23:16.730 --> 00:23:20.119
for so many of these teams that don't get to

00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:22.960
pick this high. I did mention the Jets, I did

00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:25.039
mention the Titans, the Giants obviously too,

00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:28.599
but they pick high all the time. But there has

00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:30.359
to be some, like the rubber has to meet the road.

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They have to make these picks and get good players

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so they're not picking so early all the damn

00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:39.240
time. So I there's just so much to be excited

00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:41.400
for like, you know, that's sort of like the top

00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:42.700
end of the draft where I think we're going to

00:23:42.700 --> 00:23:45.160
see a lot more defensive players early with the

00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.420
offensive tackles mixed in. But is there anywhere

00:23:47.420 --> 00:23:50.299
else you're looking in the first round or, you

00:23:50.299 --> 00:23:53.019
know, we may come back for this guy's following

00:23:53.019 --> 00:23:56.099
the first round or we could do it Friday after

00:23:56.099 --> 00:23:59.180
day two. But I'm sort of looking at a couple

00:23:59.180 --> 00:24:02.440
of spots, kind of inflection points in the draft.

00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:05.819
It's three of the Cardinals for me. I think you

00:24:05.819 --> 00:24:08.960
have to get as far as you know some of the playoff

00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:11.799
teams like that You know the Rams at 13 is a

00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:17.660
lot of fun. They pick again it They pick again

00:24:17.660 --> 00:24:20.900
No, why am I why am I confused on the Rams all

00:24:20.900 --> 00:24:27.160
of a sudden? I don't know They picked 13 with

00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:31.930
the Falcons pick for James Pierce and that then

00:24:31.930 --> 00:24:35.190
oh no they they they swapped it they they swapped

00:24:35.190 --> 00:24:39.349
it with Kansas City yeah they swapped 29 for

00:24:39.349 --> 00:24:42.450
why is the corners name escaping me yeah yeah

00:24:42.450 --> 00:24:45.750
yes right so so they don't pick again it's yeah

00:24:45.750 --> 00:24:48.730
61 ahead of the Broncos in the second round mm

00:24:48.730 --> 00:24:51.809
-hmm yeah so I just I'm just I'm staring at the

00:24:51.809 --> 00:24:55.569
board I'm just thinking how so the Rams are not

00:24:55.569 --> 00:24:59.190
really desperate because They picked up two guys

00:24:59.190 --> 00:25:01.730
in the secondary. Yes. And to me, I think they

00:25:01.730 --> 00:25:03.750
were stacked already. Now what they do need,

00:25:04.390 --> 00:25:06.630
they need to find another quarterback to back

00:25:06.630 --> 00:25:09.069
up Matthew Stack. Not at 13, though. I just like

00:25:09.069 --> 00:25:12.750
the idea that they can pick best available at

00:25:12.750 --> 00:25:16.130
13, Baltimore at 14. That's how they operate

00:25:16.130 --> 00:25:19.210
as an organization, best available. Great example,

00:25:19.269 --> 00:25:21.710
they picked up Kyle Hamilton at 14 a few years

00:25:21.710 --> 00:25:24.029
ago, and he's the best safety in the NFL since

00:25:24.029 --> 00:25:28.619
won Nick Ferguson. I think it's interesting for

00:25:28.619 --> 00:25:31.680
Arizona at 3 and then the Rams at 13. My apologies

00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:34.819
for mixing up, you know, for getting the trade

00:25:34.819 --> 00:25:38.000
for the 29th pick. But there's just a couple

00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:40.519
of points where certain teams can go a certain

00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:43.000
way and it could kick off a run on a certain

00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:45.920
position. If the Rams, for instance, want to

00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:49.140
find a receiver to pair with Puka Nakua and Devante

00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:53.460
Adams, that could start or end a run of receivers

00:25:53.460 --> 00:25:56.970
depending on if we see a receiver go in the top

00:25:56.970 --> 00:26:13.490
tenor. He's at mini camp. He checks in during

00:26:13.490 --> 00:26:16.430
the day and then rehab lets him leave to go to

00:26:16.430 --> 00:26:19.170
practice. So as far as the NFL is concerned,

00:26:19.609 --> 00:26:22.039
he's going to be on the field. Right. That's

00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:25.900
what that's one hell of negotiating. You can

00:26:25.900 --> 00:26:28.319
go to practice, but you got to come back to the

00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:32.420
rehab facility. Right. But I'll tell you this,

00:26:32.539 --> 00:26:37.279
the one that I'm really intrigued by is what

00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.140
Andrew Barry is going to do at six for the Cleveland

00:26:40.140 --> 00:26:46.140
Browns. I think that's online. I think I think

00:26:46.140 --> 00:26:48.220
they're going to take the top tackle or they're

00:26:48.220 --> 00:26:50.589
going to take the second tackle. If Arizona goes

00:26:50.589 --> 00:26:55.670
tackle at three because they they uh, they're

00:26:55.670 --> 00:26:57.970
completely rebooting their offensive line. They

00:26:57.970 --> 00:27:01.690
had five guys five starters walk and Those were

00:27:01.690 --> 00:27:04.769
terrible. Yeah, especially their left tackle.

00:27:04.829 --> 00:27:09.250
Oh my god. Yeah Yeah, so they got uh, duan, um

00:27:09.250 --> 00:27:12.650
the ohio the the ohio state kid duan, uh god

00:27:12.650 --> 00:27:15.029
He's like six eight and he shed some weight,

00:27:15.029 --> 00:27:18.109
but I I don't I don't know if he's a left tackle

00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.099
They may move them to right tackle, depending

00:27:20.099 --> 00:27:25.240
if they can get, um, uh, Marinoa or Freeling

00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:29.019
of those two. Um, those have been regarded as

00:27:29.019 --> 00:27:32.700
the top two tackles that could go in the first

00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:36.000
six picks. Um, but Clea, you know, like Cleveland

00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:39.019
strategy is there a year away from getting off

00:27:39.019 --> 00:27:42.119
the Deshaun Watson money. So the way that they

00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.460
operate is to fully reset the books a year from

00:27:45.460 --> 00:27:48.670
now. So tackle kind of makes sense to me to not

00:27:48.670 --> 00:27:53.950
necessarily commit themselves to You know to

00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:57.410
a specialty position or certainly, you know an

00:27:57.410 --> 00:27:59.789
edge rusher receiver that come three years from

00:27:59.789 --> 00:28:02.970
now They have to hand out massive extensions

00:28:02.970 --> 00:28:09.089
to Dwan Jones, that's correct. So he's still

00:28:09.089 --> 00:28:11.630
there coming off his rookie year I know he had

00:28:11.630 --> 00:28:14.529
weight concerns, but he's since shed some weight

00:28:14.529 --> 00:28:18.160
and he's In line to be the left tackle unless

00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.160
they take somebody at six So I like Cleveland.

00:28:22.180 --> 00:28:23.920
Is there another is there another spot that you

00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:29.599
like in the first round? Chicago Buffalo back

00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:32.579
-to -back to me at Cleveland picks again at 24

00:28:32.579 --> 00:28:36.759
24 25 26 is really fun because I think you got

00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:40.259
like the edge rusher class really thins out after

00:28:40.259 --> 00:28:43.200
the first four or five guys and you know for

00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:46.740
these teams that Made the playoffs like a Buffalo

00:28:46.740 --> 00:28:50.940
like a San Francisco like Houston, you know adding

00:28:50.940 --> 00:28:54.819
more pass rush would Be a great move, but they

00:28:54.819 --> 00:29:02.920
all can't do it Dallas talk to me Jerry Jones

00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.339
Because I'm thinking see Jerry knows that his

00:29:07.339 --> 00:29:10.970
offense is pretty good with deck And just like

00:29:10.970 --> 00:29:13.130
the Miami Dolphins who picked before the Cowboys,

00:29:13.769 --> 00:29:16.809
their defense has struggled mightily, especially

00:29:16.809 --> 00:29:19.509
in the secondary. And you have a new defensive

00:29:19.509 --> 00:29:22.069
coordinator, Christian Parker, who comes from

00:29:22.069 --> 00:29:26.309
the School of Ingeo. And once again, even though

00:29:26.309 --> 00:29:31.210
the league loves to uplift quarterbacks, the

00:29:31.210 --> 00:29:34.789
old adage is true, defense wins championships.

00:29:35.109 --> 00:29:37.710
So Jerry is thinking the thing that has been

00:29:37.710 --> 00:29:40.619
holding him back, from getting back to the big

00:29:40.619 --> 00:29:44.140
game for 30 plus years has been the fact that

00:29:44.140 --> 00:29:47.559
their defense has been terrible. So they're probably

00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.180
going to take a defensive player. I would be

00:29:50.180 --> 00:29:52.400
shocked if they didn't take someone of a pass

00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.519
rusher at that pick. You know, one of the elite

00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:59.039
guys that we sort of mentioned, I could see fall

00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.380
to 12. But it happened with Micah Parsons a few

00:30:02.380 --> 00:30:06.099
years ago. Just pick one. I mean, one of Reuben

00:30:06.099 --> 00:30:12.140
Bain. or Sonny Stiles or Arvel Reese or David

00:30:12.140 --> 00:30:14.400
Bailey. One of those four I bet would fall out

00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:16.700
of the top 10. But you know what Alex see that's

00:30:16.700 --> 00:30:18.920
the thing that like would they move you know

00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.339
would they move from 12 like 12 to 9 or 10 of

00:30:22.339 --> 00:30:24.680
Kansas City or even the Giants you know want

00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:26.940
to accumulate more draft capital? That would

00:30:26.940 --> 00:30:30.619
be risky but I wouldn't put it past the gambler

00:30:30.619 --> 00:30:33.859
himself and Jerry Jones because Jerry knows is

00:30:33.859 --> 00:30:36.960
he's getting he's getting older. and his time

00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:39.599
to kind of live in the sun in the Super Bowl

00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:43.559
and hoist up that Lombardi Trophy, time is ticking,

00:30:43.819 --> 00:30:47.740
man. Time is a -ticking. And if he can find a

00:30:47.740 --> 00:30:49.740
player that can actually offset things for him,

00:30:50.099 --> 00:30:53.279
he's definitely going to do it. But this whole

00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:57.740
narrative about guys sliding, I never liked that

00:30:57.740 --> 00:31:00.529
type of... language and narrative. Except if

00:31:00.529 --> 00:31:02.730
it goes to the Broncos at 62, because you did

00:31:02.730 --> 00:31:07.029
mention that. Well, listen, slide and fall, those

00:31:07.029 --> 00:31:10.869
are two different words, something entirely different,

00:31:11.029 --> 00:31:14.259
right? Because Slide seemed as though okay. Well

00:31:14.259 --> 00:31:16.859
something happened with the player. He did something

00:31:16.859 --> 00:31:19.980
wrong There was some of a red flag So he slid

00:31:19.980 --> 00:31:22.640
so far because other teams didn't want to have

00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.859
anything to do with him now fall Now see that

00:31:25.859 --> 00:31:29.579
is more of an ideal term Why we talked about

00:31:29.579 --> 00:31:32.079
Dexter Lawrence based on what the Bengals had

00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:35.980
done with him We're gonna see guys start to fall

00:31:35.980 --> 00:31:38.559
down Right? They're going to fall. A guy who

00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.619
may have been said to be in the top 10. Guess

00:31:41.619 --> 00:31:44.779
what? Now he's in the top 20. Is it his fault?

00:31:45.140 --> 00:31:48.400
Hell no. Right? It's not his fault that there

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.539
were five other teams who decided, you know what,

00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:53.400
we want offensive tackles instead of receivers

00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:55.720
and running backs. It's not his fault, but he

00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:58.539
falls at the right place at the right time. And

00:31:58.539 --> 00:32:00.759
that's my thought. Somebody could fall to 12.

00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:02.960
That's all I meant by that Nick. Yes. Exactly.

00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.519
Okay. So I'm glad we got the terminology down

00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:10.970
just in time for the NFL draft. I think the one

00:32:10.970 --> 00:32:14.210
hanging piece for it as well reports that a post

00:32:14.210 --> 00:32:16.309
-June 1 trade for the New England Patriots and

00:32:16.309 --> 00:32:19.190
A .J. Brown are already done. I don't - You couldn't

00:32:19.190 --> 00:32:21.109
wait, could you? You couldn't wait, could you?

00:32:21.170 --> 00:32:23.769
Well, listen, if we're talking about a team that

00:32:23.769 --> 00:32:27.529
is receiver needy and could take one at 31, all

00:32:27.529 --> 00:32:29.970
of a sudden won't need to because they're expecting

00:32:29.970 --> 00:32:32.210
A .J. Brown. I think that makes a difference.

00:32:32.390 --> 00:32:37.569
It could cause receivers to fall. I add that

00:32:37.569 --> 00:32:41.170
- This is sort of wrapped up in the 2027 draft

00:32:41.170 --> 00:32:44.210
conversation because any trade completed post

00:32:44.210 --> 00:32:48.230
-June 1 is going to involve 2027 capital. I'd

00:32:48.230 --> 00:32:53.130
be, what's the word, blown away if the Patriots

00:32:53.130 --> 00:32:55.109
don't have the kind of leverage to get a day

00:32:55.109 --> 00:32:58.190
two pick in exchange for A .J. Brown given he

00:32:58.190 --> 00:33:00.390
doesn't want to be in Philly. They don't want

00:33:00.390 --> 00:33:02.529
him there in Philly and the money that's owed

00:33:02.529 --> 00:33:06.259
to him in a contract extension. I just... It

00:33:06.259 --> 00:33:08.720
would make me pretty upset and I feel like the

00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.859
trade is not worth it if they gave up the 2027

00:33:11.859 --> 00:33:14.640
first round pick for AJ Brown. But that's just

00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:18.559
me because, as we all know, it is a loaded 2027

00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:21.799
draft class with quarterbacks and Jeremiah Smith.

00:33:24.299 --> 00:33:26.700
As long as the head coach is still there, right?

00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:30.420
Given Mike Vrabel addressing the... the allegations

00:33:30.420 --> 00:33:33.140
well he said a whole lot without saying anything

00:33:33.140 --> 00:33:37.799
are they allegations yeah yeah okay the photos

00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:41.539
he addressed the photos yes okay the photo says

00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:44.319
that it's more than allegations a picture is

00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.880
worth more than a thousand words yes an allegation

00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:50.900
is i i think i heard someone say that they saw

00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.640
this take place him holding hands with someone

00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.220
else but when you have a photograph and you have

00:33:57.220 --> 00:34:00.819
evidence exhibit a or as they would say receipts

00:34:00.819 --> 00:34:04.119
right that's not an allegation no no no no see

00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:08.000
people don't you know resign from their job based

00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:11.820
on allegations people don't do that The resignation,

00:34:12.380 --> 00:34:15.500
the Diana versus Mike Vrabel portion of it are

00:34:15.500 --> 00:34:17.719
two completely different conversations, which

00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:20.559
we can hash out. I mean, I'm looking at the time,

00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:24.079
but I also understand that what the responsibility

00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.199
is of a journalist covering the National Football

00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:31.989
League that votes for... postseason awards is

00:34:31.989 --> 00:34:34.070
different than that of a head coach I mean you

00:34:34.070 --> 00:34:36.570
know let's take the sports out of it like two

00:34:36.570 --> 00:34:38.650
families potentially being broken up over this

00:34:38.650 --> 00:34:42.070
is is a big deal and it's serious and it happens

00:34:42.070 --> 00:34:44.369
in more places than just Coldplay concerts Nick

00:34:44.369 --> 00:34:47.469
Ferguson but I will say that like all this in

00:34:47.469 --> 00:34:50.289
light and all this in jest it's like this is

00:34:50.289 --> 00:34:54.010
a team that was rallied behind a head coach that

00:34:54.010 --> 00:34:56.849
they took seriously and they got out from Bill

00:34:56.849 --> 00:35:02.179
Belichick who's Whose age inappropriate girlfriend

00:35:02.179 --> 00:35:04.639
was getting more and more access to the team

00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.219
like we thought we had kind of escaped from this

00:35:07.219 --> 00:35:12.079
in New England Just for it to Never just just

00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.639
be a part of the program. So I just don't want

00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:21.719
to invalidate Okay The Patriot way it is, you

00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:25.579
know the fact that this happened to Vraeble and

00:35:25.579 --> 00:35:28.440
Eme Udoka with an inappropriate relationship

00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:31.579
With somebody regarding as well. It is there's

00:35:31.579 --> 00:35:33.119
something in there's something in that dirty

00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:36.059
water of the Charles River there like first I

00:35:36.059 --> 00:35:41.079
so I It's always the cover -up and not the crime,

00:35:41.699 --> 00:35:45.280
right? They're talking about Being there for

00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.760
separate trips and then not being able to provide

00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.400
any receipts to Text messages or photos with

00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.480
other people in them like the first girls trip

00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.460
that doesn't have 50 million photos on it will

00:35:57.460 --> 00:36:00.619
be the first so there's some culpability there

00:36:00.619 --> 00:36:02.519
the cover -up always being worse than the lie

00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.079
itself but if they're trying to save their marriages

00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.619
and have their extracurricular activities like

00:36:07.619 --> 00:36:10.599
that's on them you take the football out of it

00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:13.260
that's more on the reporter than the head coach

00:36:13.260 --> 00:36:17.139
but at the same time being you know we're two

00:36:17.139 --> 00:36:19.440
weeks removed from Vrabel in a statement saying

00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.940
this is laughable an apology in front of the

00:36:21.940 --> 00:36:24.920
media today um says that the statement saying

00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:27.599
it was laughable is laughable clearly he did

00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.039
something wrong otherwise he would just go with

00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.039
the statement he said two weeks ago well you

00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:35.659
know what i'll say this about that situation

00:36:35.659 --> 00:36:39.179
to each his own they are both consenting adults

00:36:39.179 --> 00:36:42.059
they would now have to handle it with their uh

00:36:42.059 --> 00:36:45.539
their spouses uh the only thing i would say if

00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:48.960
there was information that was passed along from

00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:52.940
Bravil to Rossini or vice versa that impacted

00:36:52.940 --> 00:36:56.239
games in any way, that would prove to be problematic

00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.659
and the league would need to handle it. Now,

00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.880
on the other part, as that you opened up with,

00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:07.820
talking about AJ Brown. Sure. Earlier in, I think

00:37:07.820 --> 00:37:11.869
about a month ago. You might remember this podcast

00:37:11.869 --> 00:37:15.389
or this appearance. AJ Brown was on the podcast

00:37:15.389 --> 00:37:19.389
with Julian Ellerman and Gronk on the Dudes on

00:37:19.389 --> 00:37:23.590
Dudes podcast. Sure. And they were kind of kind

00:37:23.590 --> 00:37:27.590
of pushing this out, trying to put this in the

00:37:27.590 --> 00:37:30.769
ether, if you will, just proclaiming it and place

00:37:30.769 --> 00:37:33.250
the flag and say, well, you know what? You have

00:37:33.250 --> 00:37:35.610
relationship with Rabel. He was there in Tennessee.

00:37:35.909 --> 00:37:39.250
You know, when you were early rookie, what would

00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:43.329
it be great if you kind of join or rejoin Mike

00:37:43.329 --> 00:37:46.489
Rabel? with the Patriots. Well, this is like

00:37:46.489 --> 00:37:49.269
this is this is like Jules and Gronk talking

00:37:49.269 --> 00:37:51.829
to me. They're talking to a Patriot fan and AJ

00:37:51.829 --> 00:37:54.809
Brown. I was convinced the team would take them

00:37:54.809 --> 00:37:57.809
draft night only to then select Nikhil Harry

00:37:57.809 --> 00:38:01.429
out of Arizona State, which don't remind me.

00:38:01.550 --> 00:38:03.989
But they were just trying to get the Patriots

00:38:03.989 --> 00:38:08.809
fan to pledge to the team given the the issues

00:38:08.809 --> 00:38:11.590
that the Philadelphia Eagles have, which was

00:38:11.590 --> 00:38:14.349
all laid out. you know, for an ESPN deep dive.

00:38:14.789 --> 00:38:17.869
So I just, my point is I don't necessarily see

00:38:17.869 --> 00:38:20.250
the leverage that Philly may have in a trade

00:38:20.250 --> 00:38:22.150
given how much of their dirty laundry is out

00:38:22.150 --> 00:38:25.530
there. But pot, meat, kettle, Patriots have plenty

00:38:25.530 --> 00:38:29.250
of dirty laundry now as well. Yes, and I'm surprised

00:38:29.250 --> 00:38:33.610
that as Patriots fans wearing that Boston hat

00:38:33.610 --> 00:38:36.150
that you were willing to openly admit that. I

00:38:36.150 --> 00:38:38.449
am so sorry that you had to see this. We are

00:38:38.449 --> 00:38:40.510
recording on the night where the Yankees just

00:38:40.510 --> 00:38:44.719
beat the Red Sox for nothing. um and the Red

00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:49.199
Sox season has been a disaster uh but at least

00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:53.179
the Patriots are picking 31st overall because

00:38:53.179 --> 00:38:56.239
they went to the Super Bowl you know I think

00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:58.260
the kicker here Nick and I hate to do this and

00:38:58.260 --> 00:39:01.820
to end the pod like this if Mike Rable just stuck

00:39:01.820 --> 00:39:05.559
to his plan um this would have never happened

00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:10.820
this plan being he would have put off his member

00:39:11.150 --> 00:39:14.409
his family jewels if he could win a Super Bowl

00:39:14.409 --> 00:39:17.889
as a head coach had he won the Super Bowl he

00:39:17.889 --> 00:39:20.469
would have lopped it all off and then there's

00:39:20.469 --> 00:39:23.650
no extramarital relationship right what's the

00:39:23.650 --> 00:39:26.650
incentive if he's got you know a Ken doll body

00:39:26.650 --> 00:39:31.650
I don't know about you but I don't know what

00:39:31.650 --> 00:39:34.909
universe of the millions of universes that are

00:39:34.909 --> 00:39:39.590
out there where I would as a man ever make that

00:39:39.590 --> 00:39:43.409
statement I am not doing anything with my member

00:39:43.409 --> 00:40:02.199
and nothing in life is worth that. We are those

00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.539
guys. You see these guys over there? Don't check

00:40:04.539 --> 00:40:06.579
them out, I swear. If you hang with those guys,

00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.119
you do get some draft coverage throughout this

00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:12.880
week. Again, this is Tuesday evening. We're recording,

00:40:12.980 --> 00:40:15.199
so we're excited. We'll hit you following round

00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.500
one Thursday. You'll get that Friday morning.

00:40:18.340 --> 00:40:21.679
And look, we got to cover Pick 62 as well, Nick

00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.019
Ferguson. So until then, what do you have to

00:40:24.019 --> 00:40:26.860
say to the people? Make sure you always think

00:40:26.860 --> 00:40:29.909
twice. before you do anything, and make sure,

00:40:30.269 --> 00:40:32.909
of course, if you're gonna hold hands, don't

00:40:32.909 --> 00:40:36.289
do it in public. I mean, who's the last platonic

00:40:36.289 --> 00:40:38.230
friend where you've interlocked fingers with

00:40:38.230 --> 00:40:44.190
Nick? I don't do that, right? I don't do that.

00:40:44.389 --> 00:40:47.130
Platonic friends are not interlocking the fingers.

00:40:47.269 --> 00:40:50.389
See, that's why we're talking, both of us less

00:40:50.389 --> 00:40:54.170
competitive than one Mike Vrabel. Absolutely.