July 30, 2024

From the Texans to the Jets: Inside Training Camp 2024

From the Texans to the Jets: Inside Training Camp 2024

From the Texans to the Jets: Inside Training Camp 2024 

NFL Insights and Player Updates with Nick Ferguson In this episode, hosts Nick Ferguson and Alex Hardy delve into the latest from the NFL. They explore the dynamics as teams enter training camp, including the Houston Texans dealing with Danico Autry's suspension, and the New England Patriots' challenges with Christian Barmore's health concerns. The hosts also discuss significant contract updates for quarterbacks Tua Tagovailoa and Jordan Love, emphasizing the financial trends in the NFL. Later, they preview the New York Jets' upcoming season, focusing on the impact of newly acquired veteran quarterback Aaron Rodgers and the team's revamped offensive line and defensive strategies. The show ends with a spirited debate on the best bodies of water for summer leisure.  

00:00 Introduction and Hosts  

00:22 Training Camp Insights  

02:03 Houston Texans Update  

04:21 New England Patriots News  

05:53 Contract Extensions: Jordan Love and Tua  

07:49 Quarterback Market Dynamics  

15:01 Team Preview: New York Jets  

18:44 Jets' Offseason Moves and Strategy  

23:38 Jets' Defensive Outlook 29:58 Expectations for the Jets 3 

3:11 Fun Segment: Summer Water Rankings  

36:35 Closing Remarks 

Keywords: Nfl, Training Camp, Houston Texans, Christian Barmore, New England Patriots, Daniko Autry, Aaron Rodgers, New York Jets, Quarterback Contracts, Jordan Love, Tua Tagovailoa, Defensive Strategies, Afc East, Fantasy Football, Robert Saleh, Nfl Preseason, Nfl Offseason, Nfl Team Previews, Nfl News, Nfl Analysis

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We are those guys, we hope to be your guys, bringing you latest from the National Football League.

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Uh, Nick Ferguson joining me as always, former 10 year safety in the NFL.

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Pads went on this week, like the tra like, we are in full blown training camp season.

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And it's, you know, a lot to look forward to, but we're gonna talk about a little off field transactions, and then we're gonna talk about a little on field, previewing one of your former teams.

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Which one exactly? He'll have to find out or just read the name of the episode.

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Probably why you tapped in because we've got one of the bigger, uh, fan bases.

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Let's say, uh, when we talk about the team, uh, coming into the 2024 season, Nick Ferguson, what's going on? Nothing much, man.

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It's interesting that you say that the pads came on today.

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And usually when the pads come on, usually that's the sign of when training camp.

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Actually starts and you start to look around and say, well, what period are we going to have a fight? Because usually when you go shorts and shirts and you go right into pads, someone doesn't understand the tempo, right? Someone's going either too fast or too slow and words are exchange is hot.

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It's the summer.

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Then next thing you know, it is on, but for around the league, there are not too many people or not too many teams, rather.

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that have seen that.

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Now the Houston Texans, they did have it, but uh, I'm waiting to see what's going to be, what's going to happen in the next news cycle and which teams are going to find their names plastered on a four letter network.

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And guess what? It is training camp and guess who is going to be highlighted.

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So we'll see if we get one of those.

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Well, you mentioned the Houston Texans.

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Let's just get the bad news out of the way.

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We had done, if you missed, we previewed the Houston Texans and their outlook.

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Nick Ferguson, one of his favorite AFC teams coming into the season.

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Uh, unfortunate blow, Danico Autry, the veteran free agent pass rusher suspended six games for PED use, which.

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Um, you know, he says he unknowingly took a banned substance, which is a gray area, Nick.

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I don't want to spend too much time on it, but a huge blow for that defense predicated on its pass rush.

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Yeah, I mean, Noah was more, uh, D'Amico Ryans wanted to do, I mean, he got Will Anderson on one side and the team made some upgrades defensively or raw, and then he wanted to have the ability to get after quarterbacks and force them into some tough.

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But having archery, uh, kind of exit based on this type of situation, you would think that over the years players would be aware of what's put in their body.

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And I remember when I play archery.

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You know, a lot of guys used to go to GNC, so you couldn't go to GNC anymore because the labels that they had as far as the ingredients had some other additives in it that the NFL.

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If you take it, Alex, it is on you, right? I don't care.

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You can tell me GNC.

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You purchased it from Whole Foods or Sprouts, but if you were willing to put it into your body and it did not Adhere to our health bylaws, then look, that was going to be a problem for you.

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So this, uh, is somewhat of a small speed bump for the Houston Texans, but it's not going to be a large speed bump because I'm sure that organization is prepared to have another guy step in.

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Right.

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They've got guys that will step in.

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You know, they also have the, uh, addition of Daniel Hunter from Vikings.

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And, uh, it's all about having depth at the past rusher position.

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And again, We mentioned the Houston Texans, why we think they're gonna be great.

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Uh, we didn't say C.

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Straub suspended six games.

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We didn't say, uh, I mean, like, they, you know, D'Onico Autry is a key piece for that defense.

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But we think six games, You know, you have to win the games at the end of the year, more so than when they feel things out, especially how they balance schedules with all of your division games coming in at the end of the season.

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I'd be remiss, too, for my New England Patriots, a really scary situation for a very talented pass rusher, um, with my New England Patriots, knowing that, uh, when you have medical ailments of this issue, it's just really scary to understand.

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Um, exactly what's happening.

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And of course, talking about Christian Barmore, who has been ruled out indefinitely with blood clots, uh, finds out on his 25th birthday, that this is something he has to deal with this coming off, signing a four year, 92 million extension, uh, Nick, the richest contract awarded to a new England Patriot, not named Thomas Edward Patrick Brady.

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So a huge piece of that defense, probably the second, maybe third best player on that defense after Judon or, uh, Kyle Duggar, Christian Gonzalez, uh, Barmore is one of those guys there.

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So really hope that, um, he can have a safe speedy recovery.

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Um, not in the hospital right now, which is great, but obviously rest compared to being out on the gridiron for the It's really tough, but, um, feel like it should be mentioned because it's a team that prioritized him and Uh, he is among one of the best coming off a career year, eight and a half sacks last year.

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Uh, do you want to do your best Jerry Maguire impression, Nick Ferguson? Oh, which, which, which one is that? Is it show me the money! Jordan Love and Tua Tsonga Vailoa, the Friday afternoon, uh, contract extension dump.

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Is that, is that what we're going with? Uh, this time a week ago, I was talking as if Tua would be a done deal.

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Jordan Love as well.

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Actually.

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Jordan, definitely a done deal too, we weren't so sure about, but your guy, Mike McDaniel pounded his fist on the desk of one Stephen Ross, and we've got two quarterbacks now, uh, with a combined one playoff win that are now among the top five.

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Highest paid quarterbacks in the national football league.

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I understand it's what the market dictates.

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It's always fun though.

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When the old heads are saying to a tongue of ILO, uh, on one day made more money.

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Then Dan Marino made his entire career.

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That's probably what your dad is saying.

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After he was watching those great Miami dolphin highlights from, uh, from when he was watching them with a young Nick Ferguson.

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Yeah.

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You know what? That's something as, uh, people would say, call us old heads.

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Now.

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Yeah, looking at guys and the amount of money they're making at this particular point is utterly ridiculous.

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And I know you say, well, both of those guys have only won one playoff game, but in today's NFL, that's all you need.

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And timing like location is everything.

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And these guys hit at the right time.

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You think about Jordan Love.

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Left 4 Dead.

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Everyone called him a bust because he was behind Aaron Rodgers.

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He gets in, he shows what he can do, and Green Bay Packers win the playoff game.

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And no one thought that was possible with the guy who had not played a lot of football.

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It was like, oh my god, the sky is falling.

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What's going to happen without Aaron Rodgers, right, and his John Wick haircut? But you know what? Jordan Love said, don't fret.

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I'm here to the rescue, and this is why.

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When you look at what Gutenkuhl's had to do and Matt LaFleur, they had no choice.

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The guy played well, and you're watching other young quarterbacks receive their payday to tell Jordan Love, no, we're not going to do it, was only going to put them in a conundrum, which was going to cost them more money down the road.

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But when you think about a lot of these young guys and the amount of money that Anywhere from 51, 53, 55 a year.

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It looks, makes you look back at the Patrick Mahomes con contract and go, wait a minute, this guy had a 10 year contract with the chiefs, which is unheard of, but he's now only making 43 million a year.

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Is Patrick Mahomes underpaid? He just hasn't, you know, he negotiated against himself.

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A 10 year contract means he's further away from the, uh, The negotiating table, like we've just seen.

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And again, you know, full well, you notice that the contracts handed out this season, no, no 10 year deals.

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We're talking four years, five years, um, all averaging at about 50, 55 million a year, knowing that they will get back out on the market.

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And the latest TV deal that comes through again for the green Bay Packers, which thank you, because they are the only publicly owned football team.

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We know that their value ranges somewhere between four and four and a half billion dollars, uh, 55 million a year for the most important position of the app franchise kind of seems like a drop in the ocean, but it's the market dictating and FOMO, right? You don't want to be, uh, I, I, I'm not trying to, you know, You know, make anyone catch any strays, but you don't want to be the Atlanta Falcons and Desmond Ritter.

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You don't want to be the New York Jets with Zach Wilson and no other options.

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It's just teams understand that they can have a certain level of quarterback play and they will pay for it.

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You know, whether or not they're coming off an Achilles, like Kirk Cousins, again, the Atlanta Falcons.

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I'm not trying to catch any strays here.

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Uh, so.

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Yes, it's a lot of money and yes, guys in the nineties and the early aughts were not making as much money as Jared Goff, who got a contract extension or Trevor Lawrence or, you know, Joe Burrow, the guy and the others that we've mentioned earlier, but it's really hard to win playoff games.

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It's even harder to win a super bowl and for Jordan Love in 18 games to go into Dallas as a heavy underdog.

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And to play the way that he did, and the way that he played over the second half of the season, the guy's been in the building for four years.

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I think he's proven what he's worth.

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And the same thing for Tua.

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We saw what they looked like in the postseason with Skylar Thompson and, and, and the rest of the crew doing their best, uh, with some elite weapons on offense.

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So they've got the guys that they think can best effectively run the offense.

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The teams are worth billions of dollars.

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That means the quarterbacks are going to be worth tens of millions of dollars.

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That's just the reality of it.

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I want to add this to it because when you think about.

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Patrick Mahomes being by some in comparison, being severely underpaid based on what Joe Burr and Justin Herbert are making, I say, well, you know, Kansas City is now the new model.

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And the reason I say that because you're a New England Patriots, that was the model.

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You get cast offs from other teams.

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You have a veteran quarterback that you are severely underpaying him, but you're able to turn that into wins.

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This is essentially what Kansas City has become, because when you look at from 2023 to 2026, even though Patrick Mahomes on average is making about 43 million million dollars, and from 2023 to 2026, he's going to make a guaranteed $210 million.

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Right.

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Which is utterly ridiculous.

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And they restructured this deal a couple of years ago.

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To allow them to be able to sign Travis Kelsey and some of the, some of the other guys, Chris Jones was the big one.

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Yes.

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So what they're doing, they're taking the new England philosophy, but applying it to the Kansas city roster and saying, look, we have our quarterback for a number of years, we can always manipulate the cap, give him some signing bonus money, kick the can down the street.

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Sign other guys because guess what? This is a Kansas City team that's won, not one, but two Super Bowls and some of them projecting that could they do it again this year.

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So all those guys, they made their money.

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Hand clap to you.

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But if you're enjoying love, you have Reid, Christian Watson, and Romeo Dobbs.

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At some point, the pack is going to have an issue.

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Yeah, of course.

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Of course.

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And I mean, look, the fantasy community is going nuts about Don Tavian, Wicks, or maybe Luca Musgrave, the tight end.

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So they've got plenty of weapons, you know, the youngest, the youngest offensive skill group in, in, in the national football league, there's a reason they structured Josh Jacobs contract the way they did.

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They can get out clean in a couple of years and, you know, from there, maybe it's time to pay a receiver or two.

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Um, you know, you're seeing the ripple effects of that and we'll move on to our team preview shortly here because they're a team that went all in on their quarterback.

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You know, the Kansas City Chiefs, you mentioned restructuring the contract and being able to make room for some players.

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We just watched, you know, an all pro level LeJarrius Sneed walk out who saved that team's season in the AFC Championship game, punching the ball out at the end line and as a shutdown corner.

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He has to go in a trade because they prioritize, you know, Trent McDuffie and Chris Jones, who I mentioned earlier, the Miami Dolphins are a perfect example in order to prepare themselves for this to a contract extension.

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You knew it was getting done because Christian Wilkins, Andrew Van Ginkle, Jerome Baker, uh, Robert Hunt.

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All these piece key pieces out the door.

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And so there's going to be repercussions and we're going to see a Miami dolphins team that again, has the explosive weapons on offense, but critical depth and star players on the defensive side of the football, it's going to be a drastically different team than what we may have seen the last couple of years ago.

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So exciting to see, but nonetheless, there are repercussions for.

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Paying guys that earn these types of mega contracts.

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So, yeah, class pot deck.

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Well, I mean, yeah, listen, there are consequences, but this is where the league is right now because the salaries keep escalating for players.

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They're not going to go down.

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Now, the league is going to have to do something as a whole to try to put a cap on this because, I mean, this quarterback salaries are ridiculous.

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If they keep going up, what money will you have to sign other guys? So that means a lot of teams are going to lose a lot of marquee players because, He's Nick Ferguson.

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I'm Alex Hardy.

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As we continue to navigate this training camp period, getting ready for preseason football right around the corner, we do want to dedicate Time every single episode to preview some of the teams around the national football league that we find intriguing.

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Uh, we have no particular set order.

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We're not going division by division, but if you've missed in previous episodes, we previewed the Houston Texans, the Los Angeles Rams.

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Make sure if those are your teams, or if you're interested in two teams that have playoff aspirations, maybe a deep run at that.

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Uh, feel free to go on our podcast feed, YouTube, wherever you download us, uh, for earlier, those guys episodes.

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Now, Nick, I mentioned, we're doing a former team of yours.

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Yes.

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Save your thoughts on the Denver Broncos because today we're going to look at the New York jets.

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One of the most interesting teams based on the level of expectation, whether that's built by a fan base or just simply by the arrival of Aaron Rogers.

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Of course, things were an absolute disaster for snaps into the season or five.

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Four snaps of the football, one snap of Aaron Rodgers Achilles.

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Moving forward into 2024, I think with the injury to Aaron Rodgers, immediately you realize some issues with the offensive line.

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You realize issues with the backup quarterback.

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I think that was the biggest emphasis that the Jets made this off season, but sort of big picture, Nick, I want to just start with how are the vibes? You've got an incumbent head coach and GM that have swung and missed on a number two overall pick in Zach Wilson, who's now your best friend in Denver and they've hit on a lot of other picks, but they've pushed, they pushed all their chips in this time of year ago for Aaron Rodgers.

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And we have yet to see how that comes to fruition.

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So Nick.

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The coaches in particular or this quarterback, you know, to steal a line from Jerry Jones, are the New York Jets all in on this season alone? Yeah, absolutely.

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Because how many years can you say that you have with Aaron Rodgers? And Aaron Rodgers didn't play last year.

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So maybe you can say what that gives him another season or even half season.

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But here's, here's the one thing I definitely, definitely know.

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Not having Aaron Rodgers in the mix.

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Change everything for the New York Jets last season.

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Of course.

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Look at what they did this season.

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Mike Williams comes over after having, you know, an excellent career with the Chargers, getting injured.

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He now gets a chance to revitalize himself with someone who's going to get him the ball.

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Garrett Wilson is a phenomenal wide receiver.

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He was last season.

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He's going to be even better with a healthy, a healthy Aaron Rodgers and everything for the Jets.

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Kind of hinges on the fact of Rodgers being healthy.

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This is why you look at the Jets offensive line and what Joe Douglas did and Robert Sollard.

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It was like almost a DIY situation with their offensive line.

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They changed everything.

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They changed the walls.

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They changed the carpets.

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Now it's got hardwoods on the floor.

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Now they have marble countertops, brass fixtures.

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This is what the Jets offensive line looks like.

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If they can keep Aaron Rodgers up right, then they have an opportunity to compete with Tua and the Miami Dolphins.

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Now, this is a New York Jets organization that is, you know, for lack of better term, you know, great reporting from the athletics, Diana Russini.

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And again, it's just reporting.

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There's conjecture.

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It can be, he said, she said, but in all, you know, Aaron Rogers had a wish list.

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He didn't say he did, but what was reported, I want Randall Cobb and I want, uh, you know, all these other guys.

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I want, uh, Alan Lazard.

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That was the other big one.

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He got everything that he had asked for.

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The Jets, this offseason, I think still have ceded control to Rodgers, entering his age 41 season.

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But, it's more organic in terms of what they did to add.

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Right? Both in free agency, and in the draft.

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You talked about Mike Williams, they attacked the wide receiver position, they attacked the offensive line.

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Right? It's kind of funny though, because All in all, yes, issues with the offensive line, issues with, uh, uh, receivers outside of Garrett Wilson.

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The most money they spent on a single player in free agency was for their backup quarterback.

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Tyrod Taylor getting a two year, 12 million contract.

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That was the most cash they handed out to a single player this off season.

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They clearly recognize that Zach Wilson, Mike White previously, other guys that, that, that came in just weren't effective.

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So you bring in a veteran signal caller and Tyrod Taylor, and in the draft, Florida State's Jordan Travis.

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It's almost as if they have two better options than they had all the last two seasons, uh, if something were to happen to Aaron Rodgers.

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Now, they did everything they could to try to prevent that from happening, right? Tyron Smith and John Simpson coming over from the Cowboys and the Ravens, respectively.

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Uh, these guys are gonna start.

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We'll see with Tyron Smith because he hasn't played 17 games.

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He hasn't played 16 games, even, uh, for, for quite a long time.

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And in the first round, the 11th overall pick, uh, with Brock Bowers on the board or whomever else you wanted to try to put to, uh, the Jets, Olu Fushanu, who comes from Penn State.

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What I really like is that He doesn't have to come in and start right away.

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He may just be able to do that if he's that effective, if he's going to be able to hit the ground running and training camp and his relationship with Tyrone Smith through Duke Manyweather, they've worked out with the offensive line guru together for a couple of years now.

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So there's already a familiarity and a bond for the veteran leader.

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And the heir apparent who had unbelievable physical tools playing in a high powered, well, high powered run game, let's say for the Nittany Lions this past year.

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So the offensive line help.

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Uh, the receiver help.

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You mentioned Mike Williams, Malachi Corley, AKA the Yak King.

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Um, not.

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He's not, he's not Devo Samuel, like there's, he's one of one, um, but nonetheless, he racked up a ton of yards and a ton of touchdowns, uh, over at Western Kentucky, the former Hilltopper catching passes from, uh, Bailey Zappi at one point.

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Shout out my New England Patriots, of course.

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Uh, so look, through both the offensive line and at the receiver position.

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And I think one of my favorite, uh, quarterbacks, I'm sorry, one of my favorite running backs in the draft, Braylon Allen in the fourth round, the Jets pushing their chips in on offense.

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And I'm curious, Nick, if this is a high powered passing offense now, or we're just going to get a heavy dose of Brees Hall, clearly their best player on offense a year ago.

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I think the best thing for the Jets.

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It's kind of a simple formula.

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It's called balance, right? You want to be able to throw the ball and run the ball.

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You don't want to be lean heavily either on the run or pass because it essentially makes you one dimensional and it dictates to the defense, oh, all we have to do is shut down this aspect of their game plan and then now we have them right where they want them.

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And knowing like Hackett is kind of like the de facto offensive coordinator because he has the title, but we all know at the end of the day, who's calling the plays at the line of scrimmage? Who's checking to certain plays? It is that guy Aaron Rodgers.

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With Brees Hall and this revamped offensive line, we're going to see more of the Jets running the ball, but running the ball in typical Mike Shanahan fashion, because Hackett comes a little off that tree, being with Matt LaFleur.

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You're going to run the ball to pass the ball.

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And even though, like, we think about what we saw last year with Aaron Rodgers and how he was injured.

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He was trying to stay in the pocket.

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So you want to take a pressure off a guy who is older, who's coming off injury.

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You want to do that by running the ball because now your offensive lineman can set the tempo.

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Now you get through the short passes.

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Now Aaron Rodgers can do this thing where he go play action.

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He pulls it out, double move down the field.

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Boom.

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Garrett Wilson for the touchdown.

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It, you know, they, they clearly understood who their star players were in the draft early.

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And they put them in positions to succeed and a healthy Aaron Rodgers is only Going to make that better on the defensive side of the football.

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Uh, you've got a couple of guys coming in with experience in Robert Sala's defense with both Javon Kinlaw and Solomon Thomas coming over on one year deals to solidify that defensive line.

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Isaiah Oliver, also from the 49ers.

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Some key depth at the corner position behind Sauce Gardner.

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And in the draft, they waited until their final two selections.

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Uh, probably one of the most interesting, intriguing draft picks in Quantez Stiggers, the corner out of, nope, not a college football player, but he was a Toronto Argonaut, Nick, CFL, um, who wasn't looking to play college ball and just sort of picked it up and Uh, again, I don't know, Nick, you would have a better perspective on this, but after, uh, playing shutdown corner in the CFL, is it almost easier transitioning to the NFL considering how much bigger the field is, uh, up North? Absolutely.

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Here's the other thing you add into it.

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There's a one yard barrier between you and your wide receiver.

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And in some cases.

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That receiver might have an opportunity to move side to side and even go vertical on you.

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And as a guy that played in the CFL, that was a once a corner in college, I honed my covering skills in the CFL for those particular reasons.

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And I ended up coming back to the NFL playing safety, but those covering skills helped me against Tony Gonzalez, right? And a guy, another guy, Hall of Fame guy, Antonio Gates.

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So, there is some validation in being able to play in the CFL and having that skill set translate.

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But, going back, as you mentioned, you mentioned several guys that, uh, Who have San Francisco 49ers ties.

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Why? You know what they can do in your system.

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You don't have to bring them up to speed.

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It's almost like NIL in reverse.

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Like you go out and try to get these guys who are familiar with the system because they, or maybe in NIL who are already developed.

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So it's kind of football one on one.

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You run a system, find guys who did well in your system previously, bring them in.

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And that helps build the culture.

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And solidifies your scheme as though you want it taught.

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All Robert is trying to, Robert Saleh is trying to do is recreate what was created in San Francisco no different than D'Amico Ryan is trying to recreate with the Houston Texans.

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Same thing.

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He is former NFL, former Saskatchewan Roughrider and Winnipeg Blue Bomber, Nick Ferguson.

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Shout out to CFL.

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Uh, the other big addition on defense, uh, Hassan Reddick coming in.

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Hasn't showed up yet, but he should be there after they jettisoned Brees.

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Bryce Huff to the Philadelphia Eagles.

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They kind of swap defensive ends there.

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So, This is a Robert Sala defense, Nick, that wants to attack the quarterback, leave their corners on islands.

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They have excellent ones to be able to do that.

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Are there any wrinkles with this defense run by Robert Sala? Um, another great, um, defensive coach and, uh, I believe is Jeff Ulbricht still there with the gangrene.

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So you've got great former players and a system that was one of the NFL's best a year ago.

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Based on a more effective offense.

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I mean, what does that change for this defense? I mean, you have so much familiarity with what the Jets want to do.

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Anything you want to zoom in on taking a look at, um, you know, what last year was their best unit, the defensive side of the football.

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Well, if this defensive unit can come out and play, uh, very cohesive as though they did last year.

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And with a healthy Aaron Rodgers, it changes so much.

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And the AFC East, not along just the AFC conference as a whole because the Jets had, I'm going to say they had a good defense last year.

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Not great, but a good defense.

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Enough to win games.

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The problem was they didn't get the quarterback play and offensive play that they needed.

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And Brees Hall, I mean, I mean, the Jets were balling from the standpoint of being able to hand the ball to the running back and he withdrew it to them.

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All they need was a quarterback that can be consistent and can attack a defense down the field.

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They didn't get that last year, even though Zach Wilson, man, I applaud the kid.

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They played Kansas City well on Thursday night, but it wasn't enough for Zach Wilson to main.

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Maintain his job with the Jets or the Jets to win the game, but you bring in Aaron Rodgers.

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It's almost like the Broncos in Super Bowl 50.

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Let me take you back really quickly.

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The Broncos, they were doing well.

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Peyton Manning was having, you know, health issues, injury issues.

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Brock Osweiler came in for him, I think won six out of seven games.

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They were in that final game of the season where they needed to win against the Chargers and if they lost that, it was going to determine a seeding.

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So the offense wasn't playing well.

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Insert Peyton Manning, who at that point of his career, a shell of himself.

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I mean, John, uh, uh, Coach John Bogano, who I know really well, was coaching with the Chargers at the time.

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He said the same thing the Chargers player said to himself.

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Oh man, and this is just me giving you the PC version.

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Here comes 18 again.

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Even though he was a shell of himself, it changed the crowd.

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It changed how the wide receivers played.

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It changed how the defense played.

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So, there's value in seeing a veteran quarterback out there even though he may not be able to do the same things he used to do.

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It just gives you the, the confidence.

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It's almost like, The other team is like, how should you have the audacity to come out here and play us, when your quarterback is a shell of himself.

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He's not the same guy he was 12 years ago.

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We don't need that.

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Right? All we need is the David Blaine trick.

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Make them think that we're better than we are.

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And then you start playing bad because you're fearful for what he's going to do.

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Knowing as though he can't even do that anymore.

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That's how the Broncos end up winning the Super Bowl.

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And the Sheriff rolled off for the sunset.

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So the Jets are hoping.

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They are able to do the same thing with Aaron Rodgers.

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A year ago, this Jets defense, third in the NFL against the pass, 12th in terms of scoring, but 24th in defending the run.

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So clearly up front is going to be a huge point of emphasis for them.

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Uh, so we're going to have to wait and see, but Nick, those are your New York Jets.

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Um, we do this with every team that we discuss coming into the preseason.

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What is the absolute floor for this team? And what do you think is the ceiling? Is it as simple as Aaron Rodgers is healthy.

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He's capable of taking them to a Super Bowl.

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Well, the floor is, you're absolutely right.

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Keeping Aaron Rodgers upright for the entirety of the season because if you don't have Aaron Rodgers, you basically don't have a season.

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We saw that last year and that window is closing.

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So it's kind of the floor for them.

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The ceiling whiz.

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Maybe being, I don't know, uh, for the fifth seed in the playoffs, getting in and making some noise and possibly getting on a run at the right time where maybe they can challenge maybe Kansas City for that number one seed and maybe the right to go to the Super Bowl.

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And you know what? There's one person who I know would definitely be happy.

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Joe Willey, name it.

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Joe Willey.

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Um, yeah, absolutely.

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The floor for this team.

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Uh, I, I feel it would be seven, eight wins.

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I mean, you can't predict for injury, but I can definitely say that they're going to have trouble in the AFC East, not against new England, but I'd say looking at it in the month of July, as we come into August, this is a team that I still have Buffalo ahead of them.

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I still have the dolphins ahead of them too, who we discussed earlier this episode.

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So a four seed would mean winning the division, which is in the realm of possibility, but I still think that, you know, based on what we've seen on both sides of the football, there are certain advantages, uh, that the Buffalo Bills have.

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I think considering how many times they've won it consecutively, it's their division to lose.

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I know, I know what you're saying.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, how? I mean, you have no digs in your receiving core.

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I mean, it's, it's, it's just looks like a bunch of guys.

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So what? Look at that.

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Look at how they ran the football and phased the offense away from him in the second half of the season.

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I'm not saying, I'm not saying they're going to stomp the Jets.

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I'm not saying they're going to sweep them or they're definitely locked them in.

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I still just think it's their division to lose.

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Let's just have something approved to me.

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I mean, yeah, listen.

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Yeah.

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The Jets, do they have something to prove? Absolutely.

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I look, I would would buy that if you told me to.

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A ton of Allo and the Miami Dolphins are your projected winners of the AFC East, but the Buffalo Bills to me, you got two running backs.

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Your quarterback is a running back and your running back is a running back He's Nick Ferguson.

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I'm Alex Hardy.

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Of course, we will debate every position of the A FC East.

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But even I can admit, the Patriots will likely finish fourth.

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Notice how I slipped likely in there.

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I'm just leaving the door open.

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Call me Lloyd Christmas, so you're telling me there's a chance.

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Nick, before we split, uh, I mentioned July coming into August.

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I need a quick power ranking from you.

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I Recently went to the beach over the weekend.

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Uh, it's something that I enjoy immensely.

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You used to be out on our shores, uh, in Southern California, but now you reside in Denver.

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So I need a quick power ranking.

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Bodies of water to spend in during the summer.

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We've got oceans, we've got lakes, we've got pools.

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Uh, anything else I'm missing here? I just need a, I need your top three.

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Rank them.

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So lake, ocean, pool, creek, creek, creek, creek slash river.

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Okay.

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I'm with you.

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There's, there's, there's, there's Georgia Nick coming out.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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So you say pool, right? Yes.

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All right.

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So for me, I'm going to choose the unpopular pool and here's why.

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Number one.

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Number one.

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Wow.

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Number one.

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Then a creek, number two.

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A lake, number three.

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Um, what else do we have? Ocean? Ocean at the bottom, right? And here's why.

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Because when you're in a pool, You don't have to worry about anything hunting you.

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You're not prey.

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Unless you're at some kind of, uh, country club in West Palm and there's an older woman who's looking for a younger gentleman.

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Maybe you fall prey to that.

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Other than that, no.

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Creek Lake? Uh, Ocean.

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There's always something lurking in the water that you can't see underneath you.

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In the pool, everything is clear.

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You can see every single thing.

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And that's why I love pools the most.

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Because guess what? If you don't want to be in the water, you can always be Poolside.

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See? See? There it is.

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Can I bring you an update from Paris for the Olympic Games, Nick? Yes.

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I'm not saying you're wrong.

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I just, I was trying to cram this story in and, uh, this is, this is kind of my opening to do so.

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Uh, did you know that in a profile of the U.

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S.

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swimming team provided to us by the Wall Street Journal, that just about every swimmer on the team fully admits to peeing in the pool? How about three time Olympian, Lilly King? Quote, I've probably peed in every single pool I've swam in.

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That's just how it goes.

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So Nick, you can pee in the ocean.

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I'm not going to be anywhere near that.

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If you're in the pool It's close quarters for, uh, again, I'm not, you know, if Lilly King is at the barbecue, she can stay out of the pool as far as I'm concerned.

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Hold on, man.

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This is not, uh, an episode of Caddyshack where the Snickers bar, uh, is thought to be something else.

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Look, there's so many people who have, uh, tinkled.

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In the pool.

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And the whole myth was that if you do the wor the water return blue or purple to indicate that that's what they need.

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Right? Right.

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But, but they don't wanna embarrass anyone.

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This is why the water is heavily chlorinated.

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So kudos to those individuals.

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Taking a little tinkle in the pool.

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He's Nick Ferguson, uh, again.

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Pool enjoyer, but again, just don't mix, mix up with the, uh, Olympic athletes.

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So that's all I'll say.

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I'm Alex Hardy, bringing you the latest from the National Football League.

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And I guess the Olympic swimming pool there in Paris.

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Uh, we are those guys.

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We hope to be your guys.

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Check us out right here.

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Uh, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.

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At NickFerguson underscore 25 on all social.

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If you have any questions about your team.

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Uh, we gotta dive into this fantasy football stuff too.

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Uh, my draft completed, by the way, that started three weeks ago.

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We can get into that.

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We'll get into that another time.

425
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Uh, Nick, let's get on out of here.

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What do you have to say to the people? Hey, who knew that LeBron James still had more in the tank? Whatever he's drinking or eating, sign me up for it.

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All right, Bron.

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Jason Tatum looked good too, on the bench.

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Zero minutes.