Draft Dynamics: Unpacking NFL Teams And Their Draft Day Conundrums

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We are back.

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We are those guys.

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We hope to be your guys as we are sprinting on our way to the NFL Draft.

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Uh, Nick Ferguson with me as always.

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We are excited to hopefully remove some of the smoke around the smoke screens here.

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Uh, because there are a handful of teams that we have no idea what they're going to do just a week out.

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What's going on, Nick Ferguson? Nothing much, man.

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I love this time of year because The anticipation is swelling as fans wait with every waking day trying to figure out what the hell will their team do to make them so much better than the previous year.

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And we know that first round of the draft never really goes the way that everyone anticipated.

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I'm anticipating myself that it's going to be a lot of fireworks and leave a lot of people scratching their heads.

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Well, you are undefeated in the offseason, so if you're picking third overall like my Patriots or Uh, 12th overall, like your Denver Broncos.

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You know, the sky's the limit.

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There's no, uh, there are no wrong decisions.

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You only have to reap what you sow a year or two years from now if a particular draft pick doesn't work out, or like clockwork, there's a receiver the Patriots pass on that becomes an All Pro.

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We're gonna get to some thoughts on the NFL draft, but I think it was important for us to start with some of the news around the National Football League.

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Um, two big contract extensions, uh, at premier positions, more or less resetting the market.

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And we'll go with the more recent one.

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Earlier this week, the Philadelphia Eagles were signing Devontae Smith, uh, with an additional Three years, 75 million, which will kick in after he plays on his 15.

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59 million fifth year option.

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And the Philadelphia Eagles, you know, for many teams that don't want to, you know, incentivize paying three players a ton of money, they're doing exactly that with the core of Jalen Hurts.

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AJ Brown, and now Devontae Smith.

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Nick, how do you like this Eagles roster with a lot of key pieces locked up long term? You know, I like it, and here's the reason I like it.

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I mean, they put a significant amount of money in the quarterback position when you talk about, you know, Jalen Hurts.

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And for me, this is the model of what should be the model of the NFL.

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When you grab your quarterback, regardless of What people may say they can't do, you find out what they can do taking the page out of the Patriots way.

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I know you're gonna like that part about it, but yeah, you build around that guy.

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So you, you have your receivers around Jalen Hurts.

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So now he can grow with them.

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Now we saw the Eagles take a step back because they lost both of their coordinators after their Super Bowl run right in Kansas City, but this is kind of what you do.

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And here's a great thing.

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You know, for, you know, what's going on with Philly and Harvey Roseman and what they're doing is when you look at the defensive side of the ball, they are really talented.

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They, they, they experienced a lot of injuries last year, which derailed their championship hopes, but they have a lot of rookie guys who own rookie deals defensively.

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And that's the total opposite of what we're seeing a lot of teams attempt or will attempt in this upcoming draft because the idea is If you have a rookie quarterback, then you can go fill out your team defensively and offensively with higher priced guys.

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But Phillies say, no, we're young defensively.

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We're just going to make our offense that much better because we know we have to compete against not just the guys in NFC, right, Jordan Love and what they're doing in Green Bay, but you have a loaded AFC that you have to compete against and it's about scoring points.

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But it's about defense as well.

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The Philadelphia Eagles, of course, coming off that Super Bowl loss, 10 1 to start the season.

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They finished 1 6 with one of the Least inefficient, least inefficient defenses in terms of allowing big plays and their secondary got banged up.

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Um, Kevin buyer, the acquisition from Tennessee at the trade deadline didn't have quite the impact that they were hoping for.

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And so it's putting a lot of pressure on those young guys to kind of step up.

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And, you know, guys, we saw win national championships at Georgia.

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It's time for Keely Ringo in the secondary or Nolan Smith.

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They took at the end of the first round last year.

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Um, to really find a role on that defense, knowing that they've made some additions on both sides of the ball defensively.

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Um, you know, sending Hassan Redick to the Jets after picking up Bryce Huff from them in free agency, but You're talking about stretching the almighty dollar Because this was a tweet that we had read from the ringers Benjamin Solak who is an Eagles fan himself Following the extension the Eagles by average annual value have the fourth highest paid quarterback in Jalen Hurts The fourth highest paid running back in Saquon Barkley Which hello the fourth and fifth highest paid wide receivers in AJ Brown and Devontae Smith.

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Smith As you know, it's important to note his new contract average falls right over in the top five, the edge of the top five, um, the fifth highest paid tight end and Dallas Goddard, the fourth and the fifth highest paid tackles and Lane Johnson.

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And, um, oh gosh, now it's going to escape me.

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Of course it is.

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I was on such a roll here with the, uh, um, and the highest paid guard as well.

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So it's a lot of emphasis on.

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The offensive side of the football.

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Um, is that leveraging too much on the defensive side? Do they just need to, you know, in true Howie Roseman fashion, just load up on edge and just hope for the best with the rest of that defense? Well, that's what you can do because look, you have to fix one side of the ball and you have to start by having somewhat of a game plan.

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And I like to think that in Philadelphia, they have a vision and they're just trying to carry that vision forward.

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I know we've seen every off season, you know, when the competition committee gets together, they're changing rules, not to benefit the defense, but to help out the offense.

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If the Eagles understand this, this is like, look, let's load up on this side of the ball because we're going to have to outscore people.

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We know our defense, we're hoping to come along, but they may have their struggles from time to time.

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So if you go out and you get some young edge rushers, some young linebackers, once again.

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You're keeping that, that margin of money that you deal out on one side of the ball down while you increase the efforts on the other side.

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So I like what Philly is doing and it's proven that, you know, that they have the talent to get them where they needed to.

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But they just were not able to get over the hump.

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And I would say in that Super Bowl against Kansas City, uh, I would say there, there's an added element that the Philadelphia Eagles were fighting against, and it was that horrible field at the Cardinal stadium.

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Well, both teams played on the same field.

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I don't think so.

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No, their style of, look, their style of football, I guess, is better suited with better grass.

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I'm interested, you know, we can go on and on about the Eagles offense.

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My take that you've probably heard me say here already, and I'll continue to say here on those guys is that the tush push was a Jason Kelsey play, not a Jalen Hurts play.

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So his absence from a leadership standpoint, and certainly when they've got third and short.

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completely changes the scope of that offense.

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So the addition of Saquon Barkley is a good one, and this offense looks primed to be one of the best in the NFC.

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Uh, but, you know, all we can do is look at the decisions that they've made and note the timing, and we look around the rest of the league, you stay right there in that division, and not, you know, hours after, you know, The extension was done for Devante Smith, CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys star wide receiver, who's sitting there on that fifth year option is not showing up for a mini camp.

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And you've got other receivers from an incredible 2021 draft class that includes Jamar Chase, Amon Ross St.

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Brown, other guys from the previous year, including Brandon Ayuk and T Higgins, who's on the franchise tag.

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I mean, the Eagles got out and got this extension done.

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Before all of these other receivers were done.

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And I I'm wondering who, I don't want to say the biggest loser is, but who has the most pressure on them to get a deal done and keep their guys in check.

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You know, it's a big ask, but I think you have to start with C.

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Lamb considering he's the one who's playing on the fifth year option or to this point, not playing at all on it.

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Well, yeah, you look at C.

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Lamb and it's just funny how the scales.

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Uh, kind of tipped in one favor, one quarterback and against another.

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When we look at what happened to Josh Allen and not having Stephon Diggs, I mean, some people are making light of that and say it's not going to be a huge deal.

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That's going to be a problem for Josh Allen.

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So if you're a quarterback, you need weapons to help matriculate the ball down the field.

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We know Dak Prescott has taken a lot of criticism over the years, and C.

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Lamb has emerged as his number one, Yeah, he was one of the best in the league last year.

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Absolutely.

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With the idea that C.

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Lamb is threatening to hold out, Jerry Jones is going to have to make a decision because when you look at Deck's contract, both he and Mike McCarthy are kind of tied together.

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They don't have extensions.

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They're playing on the final years and coaching on the final years of their deal.

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And if you're Deck Prescott, whether you want to stay with the Cowboys and move on to another team, you need an ideal guy.

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You don't have Michael Gallup anymore.

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He's not there.

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Don Schultz is not there anymore.

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And Ezekiel Elliot, he may come back to the Cowboys.

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We, we, we, we have to wait to see.

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So some of your weapons are, have departed by their way of leaving or the team pushing them out.

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So once soon as Devonte had that deal, and you know, God players talk, let me tell you guys talk and they should talk and say, look.

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I can help you increase your deal, right? And the way that I'll do it, I'll reset the market and force your team to now have to move up to match that type of money.

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And you can't tell me Jerry Jones is going to be that stubborn to say, you know what? Well, you know, I, yes, yes.

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You know what? Let me back up for a second.

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He is that stubborn, but how stupid? That's not smart.

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So you let CD Land sit out there and I'm gonna just put you in the mind of one Jerry Jones.

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He's probably thinking, okay, yeah, CD did well.

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We go out and find another CD who was younger and we don't have to pay that money.

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But the problem with that issue is you're not going to get that same level of production for your quarterback.

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So Dallas is in somewhat of a conundrum.

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They need CeeDee Lamb for both McCarthy and Dak Prescott to perform well.

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It's just too much of an ask.

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And you, you know, as much as we.

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Talk about player empowerment and everything.

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You, you need a certain type of owner that is willing to spend the cash.

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And clearly with the, um, with the prices I read for that Eagles offense, Jeffrey Lurie was more than happy to pay cash for a competitive team that's competing in Superbowls.

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Jerry Jones just hasn't done that.

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That's why we could see both Dak Prescott and CeeDee Lam go in free agency.

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And they're, they're as top heavy as any roster in the NFL.

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Watching Dan Quinn.

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Go become the commander's head coach and grabbing all their depth pieces on the defensive line and their center, Tyler Biotish.

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They're, they're not better than they were a year ago and that was 12 wins in the regular season and zero playoff wins.

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So it'll be interesting to see the two stars left on that offense.

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You've got Brandon Cooks there, uh, Jake Ferguson stepped in nicely to take over for Dalton Schultz, but fine.

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But they really need to get Dak and CeeDee.

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To stay long term.

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Otherwise we're looking at a full rebuild, which, you know, just Google how old Jerry Jones is.

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I don't think he has enough patience or life left, frankly, to, uh, withstand another rebuild.

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Um, that's just, you know, I think T Higgins and Brandon Iuke are the ones to watch.

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Um, we noted that.

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There was a contract extension for Josh Allen of the Jaguars.

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Uh, Tee Higgins is one of the last guys left on the tag still.

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And the Bengals just don't seem to be making the same commitment that the Eagles are in paying a quarterback and two top receivers.

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Um, I'm wondering if one of Tee Higgins or Brennan Ayuk Uh, would be the first to move of the group I listed, you know, compared to the CDs and Justin Jefferson's Amon Raw players.

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You know, I was reading something and I think that, uh, even though T Higgins doesn't like the situation that he's in financially, but there may be a situation that presents itself where Alex, he decides to stay and kind of play this thing out because here's what players have to think about is that you may be in pursuit of riches and I get it based on the level.

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In that prior year, but you could go to another team and your numbers are not the same.

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You're not in as involved and it takes me back to when Greg Jennings was a member of the Green Bay Packers.

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He left the Packers.

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To stay within the division and go to the Minnesota Vikings.

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But because the offense didn't sit around what he could do, his numbers kind of fell off and then therefore his career as well.

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So players have to really be really strategic about what they're thinking.

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Are you going to the team and you're going to be a number one? Are you going to be a number two? And also too, if you remain with the team that you're, you're with, because you're going through contract negotiation, will they try to accentuate your abilities because they know the more touches you receive, the more receptions in this case, the more productive you're going to be, and that's going to price you out.

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So there's so many dynamics that go into making a decision if you're a player on the team, whether you decide to stay with the team.

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Or you decide to, to keep a player, but the one thing I do know, you have to remain competitive within your division if you want to talk about playoffs at all.

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We can go on and on about these receivers.

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It's incredibly exciting to see players on the move and we're going to get just that a week from now with the NFL Draft.

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Set in Detroit, uh, the Lions, all of a sudden the darlings of the NFL.

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Um, not a ton of questions about them from the jump, but Nick looking at just about a week out, there are a handful of teams I think we both kind of agree on, we have a ton of questions and really have no clue what they're doing once it becomes their turn.

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Not just to pick in the first round, all seven rounds of this draft.

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And I wanted to start.

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Let's see.

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I think we both have two teams we're going to bring to the table.

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Uh, we talked about it ahead of time.

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So no agreements in terms of where, you know, we're going to be in sync totally.

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But I think this conversation for me started with the Josh Allen extension for the Jacksonville Jaguars, because it had taken them so long to iron out the terms of the Five year, 150 million extension to get him off that tag after he had a career high and franchise record, 17 and a half sacks.

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Eric Armstead is now in the interior of that defensive line.

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Um, and then a lot of the additions they made were on the offense with Gabe Davis, a wide receiver, Mitch Morse at center, uh, and then beefing up the secondary with Darnell Savage coming from Green Bay.

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I mentioned the free agency moves.

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I mentioned the extension done for Josh Allen because Looking at all those pieces, I still have no idea what the Jacksonville Jaguars are looking to do, not just with the 17th overall selection, but because Trent Bahlke is a guy, historically, who we really aren't sure Of what it is he's looking to accomplish.

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He's identified his guys.

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They tend to lead free agency and pay a ton of money for players at particular positions.

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And I'm also of the belief that they were fully convinced that they were going to get Calvin Ridley back.

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They wanted to let them go into free agency.

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It was a risk that they made so that their trade with Atlanta, they would send a third round pick instead of a second.

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So you play cute games.

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You know, or you play stupid games, you get stupid prizes, Nick.

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I don't know how else to put it, but I'm not really sure what they do 17th overall, because they're very top heavy.

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And if they wanted Calvin Ridley and still didn't get them, they can just go take another receiver too, despite all the money they gave to Gabe Davis and Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram in years past.

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Well, for me, letting Kevin Ridley go, that was a huge mistake.

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And that was a gamble Trent Bulkey, I believe that he is going to regret making.

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Because now, you allow a receiver who was in your organization to stay within the division.

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And now you're going to see him twice a year.

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And you're going to see him with New Hopkins.

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Opposite him and Tony Pauly, the running back position and an inspired Will Levis.

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And Gabe Davis isn't going to, in my opinion, give you that same level of production.

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So for that team, for the Jacksonville Jaguars, I'm a little shocked at some of the things they did in offseason.

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Now, the one thing To their credit, they say they can do is they're going to be options in this upcoming draft with wide receiver prospects that you don't have to pour a hefty amount of money into.

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Now, I, I guess maybe it's just me, but I would have loved to see a Clemson quarterback link up with another Clemson wide receiver and T Higgins.

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Well, I'm, I'm guessing Doug Peterson and Trent Barkey said, once again, why give up draft capital? Why give a guy more money when we can go into draft and get talented wide receivers on rookie deals.

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But it's going to be really interesting to see what they do down in Jacksonville, Knowing what the Houston Texans did last year in the regular season and what they did so far, uh, in the offseason as well.

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Well, very quickly, you know, the Jacksonville Jaguars with Trevor Lawrence.

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They were, you know, they were expected to be the team, right? They, they, they, they had the, the, the can't miss prospect and he was coming into his own.

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They had that comeback playoff win against the Chargers.

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The interesting thing when you come to the draft is that, you know, you look at some of the team needs that they had, whether it's corner receiver, defensive tackle, edge.

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Those were the positions I just mentioned that they made additions in free agency, so they spent a ton of money.

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And yet there's still positions of need.

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So kind of looking at the board and 17th overall, I'm kind of curious, you know, if it's a tackle receiver class early in that first round, if, you know, a lot of those guys go early and they may get a premier defensive player to them to fall 17, but you almost kind of wonder if they need to move up, if it comes to trying to leapfrog teams like New Orleans or Denver.

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Or even getting into the top 10 if they want their pick of the litter at tackle or one of those, I don't know, maybe those top three receivers.

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Maybe Balky was dead set on finding another receiver, uh, and Calvin Ridley's not there.

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So what do you think the board kind of looks like and where Jacksonville kind of gets the best, uh, opportunity to improve their roster? For me, it's stay where you are.

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I mean, because someone is going to want to come up to where you are and you're going to be able to add more draft capital because, I mean, you don't have to reach for a quarterback.

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You already have that guy.

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But I mean, the tackles and if you want one of those three receivers, maybe.

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Well, once again, you don't have to do that.

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It, it's called the reach for a reason.

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You are reaching for something known as though there's some other things waiting behind those particular players that you can pick up on because there, when you get, when you look at football offensively, right, more teams are running 11 personnel.

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You need to make sure that you have guys who are great route runners who can block and in the running game.

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So there are gonna be multiple options out there.

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I mean, Roma, Dunze, everyone's talking about him and neighbors, right? Those are the guys that everyone wants.

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Do you, would it, was it great if the guy falls to you? Absolutely.

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But don't go up there trying to reach for that guy when you know, just like you said, they need to get better at the tackle position.

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They need to get better in the secondary defensively in Jacksonville.

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So just wait.

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And if you're having issues in the secondary, the one way that you can Kind of help those guys out is edge rush, right? So if you're sitting at 17, I think that's where Jacksonville is and you're looking to see how things kind of work out, maybe you go edge rusher.

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Could it, could it happen that let's just say Brock Bowers from, uh, the university of Georgia somehow was still on the board.

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Could you imagine Brock Bowers? With Evan Ingram at the tight end position for Trevor Wards.

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That's a nightmare.

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Yeah, Bowers is such an interesting one because I think anywhere between 10 to 25, you can just put him on any team because he's, yes, he's listed as a tight end, but he's really just a get open and get it type of guy.

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He gets, he gets played, you know, at the University of Georgia, he gets played as schemed for him to get open and he's You know, designed to get the football, um, which is unlike most tight ends.

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And you see, you know, some draft experts evaluate him closer to a type of Kyle Pitts player when he was coming out of Florida, who was a fourth overall selection.

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But yes, I think if you're in the teens and you're in need of defensive health, you can see the corners like Terry and Arnold or Kool Aid McKinstry out of Alabama, Quinion Mitchell from Toledo, who I've read some view him as the greatest Mac player of all time.

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Sorry, Randy Moss.

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Sorry, Ben Roethlisberger.

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Quinion Mitchell is exciting.

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And then the edge, the edges you talk about, maybe Jared Verce or Lea Toulatou, um, You know, could, could be, you know, the, the guys that end up for Jacksonville at 17, if they stay put and if there's a run on offensive guys or five quarterbacks in the first round, they could trade down and still get the guy they want at the end of the first, uh, Nick, you have a team for us.

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I believe that definitely needs receiver help based on something we talked about in our last pod.

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So what's your team, Nick, that we still have.

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No clue what they're going to do in this NFL draft.

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Well, for me, it's the Giants, man.

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I mean, I mean, you bring on Drew Lott from Seattle.

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Oh, I've got Drew Lock takes, I'll let you finish.

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And Brian Dable is being labeled as a quarterback whisperer for what he was able to do with Josh Allen out at Buffalo, but he hasn't been able to duplicate that in the Giants uniform.

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And Dame Jones is coming off of injury.

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And once again, the best offensive weapon that Dame Jones had, or even the Giants had, is no longer on your squad.

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He's on your opposition in that Saquon Barkley.

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So they need to get help.

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From a quarterback standpoint, they need offensive line help.

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They need help at the tight end position.

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Wide receiver, offensive line, you name it.

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And you have to figure that Joe Shane and Brian Dabo, look man, they're under the gun.

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Now, maybe if they were in Cleveland, it wouldn't be so bad.

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But they're in the Big Apple.

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Everything is measured under a microscope and you always want to be better than the Jets in anything that you do.

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That's kind of the mindset of the G Men.

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So that is a team that is I would say under a lot of pressure both coach and GM.

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So they sit sixth overall and what I love about the Giants is They lose Daniel Jones and everybody goes crazy because Tommy DeVito wins a couple of games while staying at his parents house.

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And, you know, they had four wins last year, uh, New England, Arizona, and then twice against Washington.

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Those are three of the five teams picking ahead of them that also need quarterback.

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So you re what you sow, you have a great time watching a, you know, a guy that, that shouldn't be an NFL quarterback win games and now all of a sudden you're gonna watch three guys go right ahead of you.

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And, and you know, is this where, uh, JJ McCarthy starts? Do they even have to move up so that they, they swap with Arizona to ensure they get a JJ McCarthy? It, it's interesting because.

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They have a ton of team needs and quarterback certainly headlines that list quarterback running back after losing Saquon.

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Like you said, outside of Andrew Thomas, they don't have a tackle.

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Uh, Evan Neal, when he's not getting in fights with Giants fans is playing poorly.

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Um, they also need help on, on the defensive side, corner safety tackle.

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Uh, so there's just a ton of team needs.

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So for them to have a Two, three quarterbacks on the roster in Daniel Jones, Tommy DeVito and Drew Locke, a project type of pick.

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And I say project just because he didn't throw a ton and he's really young and JJ McCarthy seems like something they don't need.

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However, we know that Daniel Jones isn't the future there and the other two guys are on short term deals.

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So they kind of need to chip away at this quarterback problem.

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So we don't come back a year from now.

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And they still have the same questions.

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Now, are you ready for my Drew Locke take? Yeah, go right.

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Give it to me.

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Well, John Schneider put it out for us.

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He accidentally let it slip that Drew Locke is going to be playing games for this Giants team.

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What do we know about, let's see, what I know that, you know, Nick Ferguson is that Russell Wilson last year was asked to be benched because Sean Payton was afraid of having a fully guaranteed.

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Injury clause kicked in should Russell Wilson play and miss games, even with a competitive team.

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Now, I also know that Russell Wilson does not get injured, plays through injury, and was, frankly, upset by the decision, and likely so.

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Daniel Jones has a 23 million injury guarantee if he gets hurt playing next year.

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What's the difference between Daniel Jones and Russell Wilson? Two neck injuries and a torn ACL.

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Drew Locke is coming in Game 6, Game 7, I mean, we're gonna find out pretty quickly what this Giants team has, and John Schneider said that, you know, Drew Locke signed with the Giants because he was told they have an opportunity to play, and he's going to play.

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The Giants can eat about 20 million in dead money.

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If they let Daniel Jones go after next year, but his injury is fully guaranteed, his money becomes fully guaranteed with injury.

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So they have to be able to move on quickly.

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And Drew Locke is going to be playing too many games for them to not think about taking a quarterback.

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That said with the sixth overall pick, you can have your pick of the litter with tackle.

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You can have one.

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Or you could pick two of the three top wide receivers, I would suspect, and you can build a core around a quarterback who, you know, has yet to be named.

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And you can ride the ship with Drew Locke, who maybe you can talk about at length, can win them a few games.

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Um, and they kind of just go from there.

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So I I'm curious, Nick.

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When you don't really have an answer at quarterback, but you're paying a guy like he is, is your priority to insulate him with tackle help, which could also pave the way for the tackler receiver help, which could pave the way for.

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The next guy that comes in, whether that's JJ McCarthy at sixth overall this year, or somebody in the next year or two.

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See, I'm a fan of moving back because everything that you're saying is going to entice everyone above, I mean, uh, below the Giants to want to move up.

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And if you add JJ McCarthy or Drake May or any of those quarterbacks to that mix, so now you apparently have four quarterbacks on the roster.

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Did we actually get better? And the answer to that question is no.

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And you're absolutely right.

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I told people here in Denver that when Drew Locke signed with the Giants, it was with the idea that they are going to give him an opportunity to compete.

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And I go back to last year's game against Philadelphia Eagles and say whatever you want to say about the Eagles, but in a primetime game, Drew Locke actually showed up.

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And you say, okay, well, look at his development under Shane Waldron.

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It was so much better than what the Broncos gave him at the time as far as His development and all I had to do is let Rick Scangarello do his job and develop drew lot over the next 23 years and the Broncos would be in a situation that they're in.

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But this is a great moment for drew lot for him to prove that.

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Hey, listen, I wasn't taken in the 1st round.

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I thought I was 1st round worthy.

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But now I get a second shot and you get a chance to do it.

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Not in Denver, not in Seattle, but in the Big Apple, where if you win ball games, man, they love you.

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And Seattle has died hard.

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Denver has died hard.

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Pittsburgh has died hard.

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But it's something about the New York fan base.

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They're going to love you.

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Or they're going to hate you.

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And if I am Joe Shane or, uh, or Brian Dable, I'm looking at this and saying, okay, well, Daniel Jones has been injured a lot.

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We can move away from him and we'll just have to eat that cash.

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But for right now, Drew Locke might be our true bridge quarterback.

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So let's put players around him and let's just see.

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What it looks like, because if it doesn't look well, guess what, there is another draft in 25 and 26, but for right now, you got to be competitive within your division, because I can tell you this.

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New York fans cannot and will not tolerate losing.

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And that would be the quickest way for the exit of Joe Shea and Brian D'Abo.

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So they better look at this upcoming draft with open eyes and build around Drew Lott as crazy as that might sound.

310
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I'm just sort of curious.

311
00:31:34,80.5579591 --> 00:31:36,900.5579591
We'll get to our next team shortly here, Nick.

312
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other than Chicago and Washington, how many teams in the top 10 do you think should trade down? Just from a, from a pure, you know, your, your Phil, your philosophy Nick.

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Just New England, Arizona, the LA Chargers, the New York Giants, the Tennessee Titans, the Falcons, the Bears ninth overall pick, and, and the Jets.

314
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Do you think they should just all trade down? That's kind of what I'm getting from you.

315
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Well, well, not all, not all teams.

316
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It all depends on where you think you are from a quarterback standpoint.

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If you think that you're great, You know, right now, for the quarterback standpoint, you have a competent guy, you can compete, then why not move back and build around them? Now, if you say that there's an extraordinary right tackle or left tackle that's in the draft, then you just can't Then you take that guy, but I know this from over a decade of playing in this league and playing against some elite teams and coaches that it is just that you need a bonafide team.

318
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No one player, no tackle, no running back, no corner, no safety, no quarterback ever wins games by themselves.

319
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It's a collective.

320
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And if you just fixate on one particular position.

321
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You're going to find yourself the following year fixated on the same position again.

322
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I'm sort of fixated five, six, and seven, the Chargers, the Giants, the Titans.

323
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I could see all three of them taking tackles, uh, more, more than anything, Brian Callahan, uh, the new head coach for the Tennessee Titans there at seven.

324
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I think the safest pick, the reason why the Titans would never be mentioned in this episode of teams, we have no clue what they're going to do.

325
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Brian Callahan, Brian Callahan comes in, his dad.

326
00:33:15,380.5589591 --> 00:33:22,0.5589591
The great Bob Callahan, the great Callahan, uh, longtime offensive line coach.

327
00:33:22,370.5589591 --> 00:33:32,290.5579591
I mean, what is that dynamic where it's like, dad, I know we need offensive tackle help, but, and you're my father, but I know better than you do.

328
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Titans are taking a tackle at seven.

329
00:33:34,690.5579591 --> 00:33:37,960.5589591
So it's up to the giants that they have a preference of somebody.

330
00:33:38,0.5589591 --> 00:33:41,50.5589591
If, if tackle is the answer, they probably need to stay put.

331
00:33:41,585.5589591 --> 00:33:52,105.5589591
Uh, as opposed to trading down, uh, the next team I want to bring up, uh, when we talked about the receiver discussion earlier, um, in the previous episode as well, it was Stephon Diggs on the move.

332
00:33:52,115.5579591 --> 00:34:06,125.5589591
So now the Buffalo Bills sitting 28th overall, it's not just receiver with Gabe Davis, we mentioned in Jacksonville and Stephon Diggs now in Houston, but they have other positions that have just been completely gutted.

333
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Um, Corner, Safety, they're, they're, they're tried and true duo of Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer no longer together.

334
00:34:14,30.5589591 --> 00:34:16,10.5589591
Ronald Darby going to Jacksonville.

335
00:34:16,260.5589591 --> 00:34:19,220.5589591
Uh, Tredavious White, while rehabbing, is still a free agent.

336
00:34:19,240.5589591 --> 00:34:34,80.5589591
I kind of suspect he'll come back, but they just have so many needs on both sides of the football that, you know, you get to the 28th overall selection and well, I'm not sure if they stay there and there's a receiver they like.

337
00:34:34,970.5589591 --> 00:34:37,110.5589591
They lost their top two guys on the depth chart.

338
00:34:37,525.5589591 --> 00:34:45,805.5589591
And I know Curtis Samuel comes in from Washington, but you can't just say that Curtis Samuel is now a wide receiver one.

339
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I've seen him in Carolina.

340
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I've seen him in Washington.

341
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He is exactly who he should be and he's going to occupy the slot, but they need a true outside receiver to pair with Samuel and Khalil Shakur in that offense, where otherwise you've got practice squad players in the receiving core for the Buffalo Bills.

342
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This is one of those cases where, as I said previously, teams are moving down.

343
00:35:12,40.5589591 --> 00:35:31,980.5589591
This is a team of Brendan Bean and Sean McDermott that want to move up, right? All the arrows are pointing up because you have Josh Allen, and you always wonder, what is that window like? How far, and just think about how far that Josh Allen and the Bills have been able to get, but still fall short of the goal.

344
00:35:32,160.5589591 --> 00:35:34,390.5589591
But like you said, there's no Micah Hyde.

345
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There's no Jordan Poirier.

346
00:35:35,940.5589591 --> 00:35:44,895.5589591
There's no Stefan Diggs, right? These are people who were, Key personnel members to getting the bills to where they were as being competitive team.

347
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So right now, this is the worst word you want to use in sport is a rebuild.

348
00:35:50,295.5589591 --> 00:35:51,5.5589591
That's what's happening.

349
00:35:51,195.5589591 --> 00:35:54,615.5589591
They have to rebuild the fort around Josh Allen.

350
00:35:54,615.5589591 --> 00:35:56,445.5589591
Yeah, you know, you have Cook.

351
00:35:57,625.5589591 --> 00:35:58,675.5589591
So, so that's great.

352
00:35:58,965.5589591 --> 00:36:04,275.5589591
So now you're talking about, well, how do we get better? You got to get better from a defensive standpoint.

353
00:36:04,325.5589591 --> 00:36:10,105.5579591
They brought in, uh, I think it was, um, who was it? Ah, Von Miller.

354
00:36:10,325.5589591 --> 00:36:10,715.5579591
I'm sorry.

355
00:36:11,365.5589591 --> 00:36:13,885.5579591
Well, that was, I mean, talk about forgettable.

356
00:36:13,935.5589591 --> 00:36:19,135.5579591
That was a huge, I mean, edges and other needed there is because they were never able to hit on their big shots.

357
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Right.

358
00:36:20,16.6189591 --> 00:36:33,470.5579591
So since Von Miller had to kind of restructure his contract because obviously he's not the same player, but they brought him in to wreak habit on opposing offenses and quarterbacks.

359
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So for me, you want to move up to get an interior guy.

360
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Either you're getting someone on the offensive line to protect Josh Allen.

361
00:36:41,75.5589591 --> 00:36:49,465.5579591
Or you're getting someone or one, like maybe two guys defensively, edge rushers to kind of kind of help you out, especially in the cold weather.

362
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So that is something that the Bills definitely need to pay attention to.

363
00:36:53,705.5589591 --> 00:36:58,35.5579591
And that's one of those teams that they need to move up because right now.

364
00:36:58,390.5589591 --> 00:37:03,30.5589591
Their potential to win a Super Bowl is starting to trend downward.

365
00:37:03,600.5589591 --> 00:37:08,160.5589591
Well, they lost to Kansas City three out of the last four years in the playoffs.

366
00:37:08,500.5589591 --> 00:37:12,730.5584591
And as of today, again, they have plenty to do 28th overall.

367
00:37:12,730.5584591 --> 00:37:17,850.5589591
And then some, they're not any better than they were those previous seasons.

368
00:37:18,210.5589591 --> 00:37:22,840.5589591
Nick, you've got one more team for us that a week out from the NFL draft, I have no clue what they're doing.

369
00:37:23,390.5589591 --> 00:37:28,140.5589591
Yeah, man, it would be the Denver Broncos, man, because the reason I say that.

370
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And I know it may sound crazy because the idea is that, well, you don't have Russell.

371
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You have Ben DiLucci and you have Jared Stidham as your quarterback.

372
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So the obvious answer is quarterback.

373
00:37:39,530.5589591 --> 00:37:58,180.5589591
But I say, well, if you go out and get that guy, are you standing Pat at 12 or you're trying to move up? And if you are, what do you have to give up to acquire that guy? Once again, this is one of those situations that I would encourage the Broncos to move back because they have a first round pick.

374
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No second round pick, man, two, two third round picks.

375
00:38:02,50.5589591 --> 00:38:09,180.5579591
But by that time you get to the third round, all the talent that you need to improve your team isn't there anymore.

376
00:38:09,180.5589591 --> 00:38:14,210.5589591
And I can tell you right now, there is a lot of pressure on both George Payton.

377
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And Sean Payton.

378
00:38:15,970.5589591 --> 00:38:19,880.5589591
Now, throughout here in Denver, most would say it's on George Payton.

379
00:38:20,650.5589591 --> 00:38:28,390.5579591
Yeah, outside looking in, he just kind of looks like a suit for me that does paperwork for Sean Payton, the head coach.

380
00:38:29,0.5589591 --> 00:38:32,320.5589591
Well, it is, it's a very interesting dynamic.

381
00:38:32,390.5589591 --> 00:38:33,60.5589591
I don't know this.

382
00:38:34,40.5589591 --> 00:38:34,910.5589591
For sure.

383
00:38:35,210.5589591 --> 00:38:40,460.5589591
But it seems as though Sean Payton has more power than that.

384
00:38:41,320.5589591 --> 00:38:45,900.5589591
Oh, we, it doesn't, you know, they do Nick, they'll need a tap dance around it.

385
00:38:46,870.5589591 --> 00:38:49,20.5579591
So it is a crazy dynamic.

386
00:38:49,90.5589591 --> 00:39:02,570.5589591
So that's why I shift the bulk of the pressure, not to George, but to Sean, because he's building out this team and this organization to mimic that of what took place.

387
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New Orleans.

388
00:39:04,70.5589591 --> 00:39:06,740.5589591
But here's the only problem with that philosophy.

389
00:39:07,100.5589591 --> 00:39:14,380.5589591
See, that was in the NFC South where they didn't have that many good teams and the battles between the Falcons and the Saints.

390
00:39:14,515.5589591 --> 00:39:14,915.5589591
Mm-Hmm.

391
00:39:15,265.5589591 --> 00:39:18,520.5589591
here in the A FC West, that's a whole different monster.

392
00:39:19,240.5589591 --> 00:39:23,620.5589591
right? You got the Raiders who beat the Broncos last year with eight Ocon.

393
00:39:24,520.5589591 --> 00:39:31,50.5589591
And then you have Justin Herbert, who now has the head coach that the Broncos ownership has wanted for the past two years.

394
00:39:31,210.5589591 --> 00:39:33,930.5579591
He's now running things out there in LA with the Chargers.

395
00:39:34,140.5589591 --> 00:39:42,880.5589591
And oh, by the way, the reigning Super Bowl champs who won the Super Bowl, not by offensive standards, but by defensive standards.

396
00:39:43,220.5589591 --> 00:39:47,680.5589591
So there's an immense amount of pressure on the Denver Broncos to get this right.

397
00:39:48,35.5589591 --> 00:40:06,255.5589591
My idea is, if you feel as though there's a quarterback that you want, go get him, but you better be right, because if you're wrong, there's a number of people who are going to be fired, and this is not one of those things that you can just point the finger at George Payton and say, well, you know, It's all George's fault.

398
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Can't do that anymore.

399
00:40:08,425.5589591 --> 00:40:08,865.5589591
Yeah.

400
00:40:08,895.5589591 --> 00:40:14,485.5589591
So I'm, I'm wondering that, you know, of course, uh, quarterback is going to be their top need.

401
00:40:14,795.5589591 --> 00:40:22,55.5584591
Um, they need, you know, they, uh, had a few departures in free agency, uh, Josie Jewel and Brandon Jones.

402
00:40:22,55.5584591 --> 00:40:29,215.5589591
And certainly we mentioned Russell Wilson, other than Josh Reynolds coming in to run dig routes, um, in the place of Jerry Judy.

403
00:40:29,645.5589591 --> 00:40:31,225.5589591
Who went to Cleveland.

404
00:40:31,715.5589591 --> 00:40:36,35.5589591
Um, there, you know, there's a ton of needs that this team has at premier positions.

405
00:40:36,245.5589591 --> 00:40:41,325.5589591
So a best player available type of approach seems like it works.

406
00:40:41,595.5589591 --> 00:41:06,220.5589591
I'm curious though, sitting at 12, you know, the Minnesota Vikings have been very transparent, both in Kevin O'Connell's, Press conferences, uh, and in their mo in their acquisition of Houston's 23rd overall pick somebody that either wants to come down from that top 10 is going to end up with the 23rd pick and the 11th pick one spot ahead of the Denver Broncos.

407
00:41:06,400.5589591 --> 00:41:12,400.5589591
So really when we talk about teams like the Giants that we did at length and others, you know, the, the, the thought of.

408
00:41:13,80.5589591 --> 00:41:19,150.5589591
Asking them to trade down Nick could come at the expense of them taking a player that you covet at 12.

409
00:41:19,360.5589591 --> 00:41:28,530.5579591
So again, you need to find a partner to trade up, but if they covet someone at 12 and he goes at 11, now here they go trading down again.

410
00:41:29,410.5579591 --> 00:41:32,270.5589591
We have it all figured out, even if these teams don't.

411
00:41:32,440.5589591 --> 00:41:36,650.5589591
He's Nick Ferguson, I'm Alex Hardy, and we are those guys.

412
00:41:37,199.1135149 --> 00:41:40,59.1135149
And this is Nick before we split.

413
00:41:40,359.1135149 --> 00:41:46,539.1135149
Nick, we have so many ideas about what teams should do versus what they will do.

414
00:41:47,344.1135149 --> 00:41:48,804.1135149
It all comes at a huge risk.

415
00:41:49,24.1135149 --> 00:42:11,639.1135149
Nick, before we split, what's one of the biggest mistakes any of these teams can make as we approach the draft next week? The mistake they can make is knowing as though there's a division rival sitting right behind you, in front of you, and you make a decision based on that and not Something that you actually need from a team standpoint.

416
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You look at your roster and say, okay, what kind of holes that we can plug? Don't think about, okay, well, the Raiders are picking behind us.

417
00:42:19,529.1135149 --> 00:42:23,269.1135149
They may want to go get this guy who gives a crap about what they want to do.

418
00:42:23,279.1135149 --> 00:42:31,609.1135149
At the end of the day, it's what fits your team, right? And so many teams look at these mock drafts and make decisions based on that.

419
00:42:31,879.1135149 --> 00:42:32,89.1135149
Yeah.

420
00:42:32,89.1135149 --> 00:42:39,489.1135149
You want to look within your division and see what those teams are doing, but first you have to look in house first and plug the gaps that you have.

421
00:42:40,539.1135149 --> 00:42:43,59.1135149
He's Nick Ferguson, 10 years in the NFL.

422
00:42:43,219.1135149 --> 00:42:58,509.1135149
You can find him on social at Nick Ferguson, underscore 25, uh, breaking down tape, any questions about his Broncos or any of your teams, he'll be thrilled to tell you about why Jarrett Stidham is good enough for the Broncos to pass on a quarterback in this draft.

423
00:42:58,939.1135149 --> 00:43:00,669.1135149
Uh, that and so much more.

424
00:43:00,879.1135149 --> 00:43:01,829.1135149
I'm Alex Hardy.

425
00:43:01,959.1135149 --> 00:43:02,799.1135149
We're those guys.

426
00:43:02,799.1135149 --> 00:43:04,69.1135149
We hope to be your guys.

427
00:43:04,209.1135149 --> 00:43:12,24.1135149
We have two more shows where we're gonna be breaking down some Topical NFL news, plus some questions we have coming up to the draft.

428
00:43:12,264.1135149 --> 00:43:14,164.1135149
And then we've got a big draft recap.

429
00:43:14,164.1135149 --> 00:43:17,24.1135149
Once it all shakes down in Detroit football.

430
00:43:17,644.1135149 --> 00:43:19,124.1135149
Hey, we'll catch you guys next time.

431
00:43:19,134.1135149 --> 00:43:24,644.1135149
Nick, what do you have to say to the people on our way out of here? Hey, don't eat cotton candies because it was bad for your teeth.

432
00:43:26,554.1125149 --> 00:43:27,4.1135149
That's it.

433
00:43:27,234.1125149 --> 00:43:27,874.1135149
Yeah, that's it.

434
00:43:27,894.1125149 --> 00:43:29,324.1125149
Don't eat cotton candy.

435
00:43:29,394.1125149 --> 00:43:35,324.1135149
All right, Nick Ferguson, safety on the football field and for your oral hygiene.

436
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Peace.