The Witch Movie Project Ep 8 - 'Return To Oz' (1985) vs 'Hereditary' (2018) - Live On Location!

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Alright, howdy folks.

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I am Just Blane, Bob Briggs.

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You Most of you don't know who
Joe Bob Briggs is, so you sure

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as hell don't know who I am.

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Right?

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But hey, we're having fun, and
this is the Witch Movie Project.

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Me and Courtney put this thing
together about six months ago or so.

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Oh yeah.

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Started talking about
this, and it just happened.

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I got roped in.

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She got roped in.

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It wasn't hard, because all we did
was really talk about a bunch of witch

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movies, and she is Daybreak's local witch.

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So it was very easy for me to say, hey.

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Would you like to watch some witch
movies and talk about them with me?

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Yes.

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And that was her answer.

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That was it.

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That was all it was because we
didn't have to ask much more.

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Now, I got to say though, that
this was a selfish project of mine,

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because this for one is Joe Bob Riggs.

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This is my ultimate homage to him.

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Best it gets.

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Sorry, Joe Bob, if you're watching.

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But Joe Bob Riggs is a horror movie host.

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He started doing this a long time
ago on TNT for MonsterVision.

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He's been doing it longer than
most of us in here have been alive.

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Actually, yes, longer than
all of us have been alive.

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I just had a look around the room.

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But this is something that he's been
doing is basically hosting movies.

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So, yes, selfish project of mine.

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And I brought her into it because
I watch these movies anyway.

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Don't you?

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Like, is this?

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Oh, yeah.

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I love movies.

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So, sign me up.

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Now, out of the ones that we did
though, Courtney, which one, which

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one, which was your favorite?

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That's a hard one.

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Now, that's really hard because
I had favorites that I had

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picked when we made our lists.

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We did like a master list, right?

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All of our favorite
witch movies and stuff.

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Some of them didn't even make it
on, on the final roster, but, uh, I

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had my favorites already picked out.

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I was like practical magic.

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You can't go wrong, right?

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Who loves practical magic?

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Woo!

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Give me a, give me a woo woo!

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Midnight margaritas.

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So my favorites, right?

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I mean, that's not too horrible, not
too horror scary, like real tame,

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real, um, realistic as far as what
I think witches really are like.

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Um, but then I had to watch a bunch of
movies I was really uncomfortable with.

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And then loved them once I watched them.

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So now, to pick a favorite would
be like, a favorite of which kind?

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It's tough because we had, we had,
here's the thing, we had family movies in

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there, and we had the scariest of scary.

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Now if I had my way, let me
go on a little rant here.

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If I had my way, you know what we
would have shown tonight, and I

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had to get talked out of this by
everybody that there was, but I wanted

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to show the autopsy of Jane Doe.

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But nah, some people say,
ah, she's, she's too naked.

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I'm like, no, well, nobody thinks about
that because she's getting cut open.

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Nobody's thinking about there's
a naked woman on the table.

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I would have a show there
and I might still show it.

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I'm the one with the
remote here, Courtney.

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Yeah.

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Um, sorry, kids.

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Y'all gonna have to close
your eyes and not watch.

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Yeah.

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It was a little bit, a little bit too, uh,
off the cliff as far as the witch movies

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go, and I thought, let's rein it back in.

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And let's pick one that is
just creepy enough to be like,

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wait, what is going on here?

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And also in the family
friendly movie genre.

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Now, this movie has got ties to
witches because it's got one of

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the most famous witches, right?

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The Wicked Witch.

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The Wicked Witch of the West.

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Now, if you haven't seen Return to
Oz is what we're talking about here.

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It says fantasy, action, and adventure.

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They forgot to put horror on there
because this movie is completely

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creepy in all kinds of ways.

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Now you gotta think about this.

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This is made in 1985.

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45 plus years after The Wizard of Oz.

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So for a long time, somebody
get the door please.

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So for a long time, this had the record
for longest years between sequels.

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Until another movie came out called Bambi
2, which none of you guys saw that either.

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But you definitely haven't
seen The Return to Oz.

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But you gotta see this.

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And me and Courtney
started talking about it.

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We said, why do they
need to see this movie?

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It's tied to witches, but this
is the sequel to Wizard of Oz.

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And soon we've got Wicked coming out.

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So we wanted to make sure that
everybody was up to par on

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their Wizard of Oz knowledge.

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A lot of people thought when this came
out, they were like, oh, this is not good.

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Right?

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Because they're used to Judy Garland.

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I mean, everybody loves the
Wizard of Oz came out in 1939.

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Everybody loves that version, right?

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Everybody loves it.

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But it's not as close to the novels.

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And a lot of fans of this movie
love it because it's a little

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bit more close to what L.

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Frank Baum had made when
he wrote the novels.

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And it does combine quite a few of the
books in the series into one movie.

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So.

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You kind of have to set aside
your Judy Garland version.

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Yeah.

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And you have to appreciate this for
what it is all by itself, right?

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Now here's the book here, guys.

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I got an original copy of this thing.

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You see this?

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This has got like
library prints and stuff.

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This is really, really old.

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But you can see right here, this
thing is already creeping me out.

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Now I'm going to sit here, we're
going to read this entire book.

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Now,

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You said really old.

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I'm just kidding, guys.

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I'm not going to sit here and
make you read the entire book.

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But what I'm going to do is,
This movie is set in about 1899.

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So even though it's 40 plus years
after the original movie, it's only 6

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months after Dorothy has went to Oz.

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In, in, in movie time.

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So, you gotta think they're
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Let me go in and talk about
the economy back then.

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1800s.

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Is that okay, Courtney?

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You think I can go off on a rant here?

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You can't, you can't not talk about it.

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Huh?

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No, I'm not gonna talk about that either.

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But, the movie Return to Oz.

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Farooza Bach.

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She had to be terrified out
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being on set the whole time.

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It's no reason, no wonder that she has
kind of quit acting and disappeared now.

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This movie probably still scarred her.

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You think this is the one?

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This is probably the one out
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But you're right, if you're
expecting the Judy Garland, Dorothy,

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cheery, happy, this ain't it.

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So you're allowed to leave now from my
live audience, and you're allowed to

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stop watching if you're looking at home.

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But what do you think,
Courtney, should we start it up?

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All right, and what we're gonna do
So let's start the movie But what

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we're gonna do is we'll stop the movie
down every once in a while and we'll

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talk for a couple more minutes But
we're gonna let it run for a while.

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Now.

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I'm telling you.

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I Hope nobody here has nightmares tonight.

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You see a lot of crazy stuff in here.

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I Mean, they're gonna go to electro
shock therapy right out the beginning.

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I don't know if we should have
kids But let's go see this thing.

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Dorothy is crazy

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and let's start it up

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Now.

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People are you?

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No, I said we're gonna stop it.

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That's what we're here for.

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We're still taping a podcast also.

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So.

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So we're 40 minutes into this
movie and let's just go through

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a list here because electroshock
therapy is not the worst thing we've

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seen yet, not the weirdest thing.

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We've seen a talking chicken, TikTok.

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What the hell is TikTok?

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Yeah, the original.

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The original TikTok.

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Let me throw this out there for you
though because I do want to put this out.

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Gymnast Michael Sundin.

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Actually stood upside down with
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and walked to make Tick Tock.

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Oh

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wow.

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Now Courtney can you, now
Courtney's going to demonstrate

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how he did that for us here.

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So it says stood upside
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I'm just telling you now that this is just
the tip of the iceberg of the weirdness.

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Now you saw the wheelers, I think they
took the place of the flying monkeys.

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I'm not sure, the wheelers are way
more disturbing than flying monkeys.

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I didn't find any reference of
wheelers in the, in the books.

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Nah, nah, I think that's something
they found out, it's a, they

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found a costume at the dump.

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You know, they got it out
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Cause the wheels look like something off
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Yeah, it kind of looks
fun, I want to try it.

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I'm sure you like hold the wheels
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like wheel around it's kind of like
rollerblading but with all four limbs.

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I think it looks like fun.

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I would try it.

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Only her.

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Only her.

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We would make a

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gang.

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Let me tell you this too.

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So, so, I'm going to throw this fact out
there too because Judy Garland was 16

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years old when she made The Wizard of Oz.

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Now, Farouz is only 10.

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She's 10 years old.

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This is her first major movie.

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She beat out.

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10, 000 plus people to get this role.

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They said there were 600
people in Vancouver alone.

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Oh, I believe it.

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And they saw her and they
said, yes, this is it.

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And I think they nailed it.

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I really do.

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I think Farooza plays a great Dorothy
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younger than our original Dorothy.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And, um, I would like to point out
Aunt Em was much younger than the

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original Aunt Em in the 30s film.

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Uh, I, I mean, I imagine she
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or 60s in the original movie.

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And then this one was, um, more
like my age, I want to say.

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So there are

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only two actors that were
still alive from the original.

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When this one came out, one of
them was the main flying monkey.

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Maybe he's the one that
said, you know what?

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No more flying monkeys.

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We're not doing that.

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So offensive to

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me.

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Well, let's get back.

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Let's get back to the movie.

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But before we do, I got to point
out here too, that the violence.

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This movie, I believe, has
the highest body count out

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of all the movies we picked.

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And we had Blair Witch Project,
we had The Witch, Suspiria, maybe

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Suspiria beat it, I don't know.

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We had a lot of

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bodies in Suspiria.

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Yeah, what other

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movies did we have?

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We had quite a few others, but I believe
that this one has the highest body count.

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You saw a TikTok over
there, he whooped ass.

246
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He just whooped ass.

247
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That gymnast in there, upside down.

248
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Well, let's get back,
let's get back at it.

249
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Only

250
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got that house done.

251
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There it is.

252
00:10:53,674 --> 00:10:55,464
There's a lot to unpack here.

253
00:10:55,974 --> 00:11:00,134
Yeah, well, is it just me, or is anyone
else attracted to Jack Pumpkinhead?

254
00:11:00,154 --> 00:11:01,414
I think he's pretty cute.

255
00:11:02,684 --> 00:11:05,634
I thought he was kind of cute,
but that is my husband over there.

256
00:11:05,634 --> 00:11:07,354
So that may be, maybe his wife.

257
00:11:07,564 --> 00:11:07,924
Well,

258
00:11:08,354 --> 00:11:09,494
he's playing Jack tonight.

259
00:11:09,654 --> 00:11:13,774
Jack Skellington, but let's not
get it twisted because Tim Burton

260
00:11:13,774 --> 00:11:17,814
definitely took inspiration for Jack
Skellington from Jack Pumpkinhead.

261
00:11:17,974 --> 00:11:19,044
I mean, it's obvious.

262
00:11:19,044 --> 00:11:19,914
How could you not?

263
00:11:20,284 --> 00:11:22,694
It's, it's the same figure.

264
00:11:23,004 --> 00:11:23,354
Am I right?

265
00:11:23,664 --> 00:11:24,034
Yeah.

266
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You didn't see it.

267
00:11:25,894 --> 00:11:29,564
Now, there's a lot though to unpack.

268
00:11:30,249 --> 00:11:31,479
I want to talk about the gump.

269
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Yeah, okay.

270
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Like,

271
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what the hell is the gump?

272
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It's a

273
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moose, right?

274
00:11:34,949 --> 00:11:35,599
Now, they put

275
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together this bed, some palm
fronds, and a gump head.

276
00:11:42,079 --> 00:11:46,019
Now, palm fronds, that's really, you
know, that's what the leaves are.

277
00:11:46,019 --> 00:11:46,359
That's called fronds.

278
00:11:46,359 --> 00:11:47,194
Yeah.

279
00:11:47,194 --> 00:11:49,129
Now, a gump is not real, though.

280
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But fronds are.

281
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Okay.

282
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I'll believe you.

283
00:11:52,329 --> 00:11:52,653
I think a

284
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gump is a made up fictional character
that they've made just for this, because

285
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I don't think I've ever run across a gump.

286
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Yeah.

287
00:11:58,364 --> 00:11:58,684
No?

288
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You have somebody?

289
00:12:00,124 --> 00:12:00,944
Oh, Amanda has.

290
00:12:00,944 --> 00:12:03,489
I think I dated somebody
with the last name Gump.

291
00:12:03,489 --> 00:12:03,743
Okay.

292
00:12:03,743 --> 00:12:04,506
That's close enough.

293
00:12:04,506 --> 00:12:05,524
She's come across a

294
00:12:05,524 --> 00:12:06,194
Gump before.

295
00:12:06,234 --> 00:12:06,524
Yeah.

296
00:12:06,564 --> 00:12:06,754
So.

297
00:12:07,114 --> 00:12:07,314
Ryan Forrest.

298
00:12:10,164 --> 00:12:11,054
Oh, wow.

299
00:12:11,114 --> 00:12:12,644
Coincidences all over the place.

300
00:12:12,914 --> 00:12:17,564
So that scene with the Gump and the
flying thing, that was one of Walter

301
00:12:17,574 --> 00:12:19,934
Murch's favorite parts to film.

302
00:12:19,944 --> 00:12:22,224
Now Walter Murch was the
director of this film.

303
00:12:23,404 --> 00:12:26,314
He, now that was also the hardest
part of the movie to film.

304
00:12:27,179 --> 00:12:32,189
Which makes sense for Walter Murch because
he got fired from directing this movie

305
00:12:32,579 --> 00:12:37,929
about in the middle, early on, actually,
because he was taking so long to film.

306
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Until George Lucas and Steven Spielberg
came to his rescue, literally, and said,

307
00:12:44,179 --> 00:12:47,729
no, no, no, no, no, you got to give
this guy a shot to direct this movie.

308
00:12:47,999 --> 00:12:48,514
That's nice.

309
00:12:48,514 --> 00:12:51,659
So, they put in the work for him,
and he came and directed this thing,

310
00:12:52,129 --> 00:12:58,479
and as of Uh, October 31st, 2024.

311
00:12:58,479 --> 00:13:00,179
This is the only movie he has directed.

312
00:13:00,649 --> 00:13:01,169
Oh, wow.

313
00:13:01,189 --> 00:13:05,419
So I don't know if it's scarred him
that bad, if the experience scarred

314
00:13:05,419 --> 00:13:08,949
him that bad, or if he just said, you
know what, it's as good as it gets.

315
00:13:09,189 --> 00:13:10,789
Kind of a perfectionist, maybe.

316
00:13:10,819 --> 00:13:11,209
Maybe.

317
00:13:11,259 --> 00:13:13,819
Maybe it just took too long because he
needed all the details to be just perfect.

318
00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:15,369
But he, but he got it together, I think.

319
00:13:15,369 --> 00:13:19,244
And what they put out here is
definitely, It's a cult classic.

320
00:13:19,564 --> 00:13:19,814
Yeah.

321
00:13:19,894 --> 00:13:21,234
Oh, and it's definitely coming back.

322
00:13:21,254 --> 00:13:22,764
You can watch it in movie theaters now.

323
00:13:22,764 --> 00:13:23,844
People bringing it back.

324
00:13:23,964 --> 00:13:24,734
I saw it at Brovies.

325
00:13:24,754 --> 00:13:27,564
We saw a poster for it at Brovies
here in downtown Salt Lake.

326
00:13:27,564 --> 00:13:28,984
So it does, it is coming

327
00:13:28,984 --> 00:13:29,484
up.

328
00:13:29,484 --> 00:13:29,634
Now,

329
00:13:30,054 --> 00:13:32,854
what else do you got to say about this
movie before we wrap this thing up?

330
00:13:32,854 --> 00:13:32,904
If you're

331
00:13:32,904 --> 00:13:37,744
wondering why it's a witch movie,
Princess Mambi is actually a witch.

332
00:13:37,844 --> 00:13:43,054
And in the books, in the second
novel, she is a, um, witch Mambi.

333
00:13:43,054 --> 00:13:45,114
She's like the Wicked Witch of the West.

334
00:13:45,764 --> 00:13:46,704
Uh, clearly.

335
00:13:47,164 --> 00:13:48,534
Taking your heads off.

336
00:13:48,684 --> 00:13:49,914
Switching out heads.

337
00:13:50,164 --> 00:13:52,744
I mean, that's not something
a princess would do.

338
00:13:52,794 --> 00:13:53,364
Am I right?

339
00:13:53,374 --> 00:13:54,144
It's witches things.

340
00:13:54,184 --> 00:13:54,784
Witches.

341
00:13:54,854 --> 00:13:55,414
You do that.

342
00:13:55,424 --> 00:13:55,844
Yeah.

343
00:13:56,684 --> 00:13:59,894
You swap out heads I could
swap out heads, I would.

344
00:14:01,484 --> 00:14:03,724
If I could go younger
head, yep, I'll take it.

345
00:14:04,194 --> 00:14:04,974
I would do it.

346
00:14:05,584 --> 00:14:05,894
Yeah.

347
00:14:06,354 --> 00:14:12,124
So, in the second novel, though, they
had, uh, it was a orphan boy named

348
00:14:12,144 --> 00:14:14,124
Tip is the protagonist of that film.

349
00:14:14,124 --> 00:14:18,714
He's the one that makes Jack
Pumpkinhead to scare the witch mambi,

350
00:14:19,214 --> 00:14:21,334
um, like Jack says in this movie.

351
00:14:21,334 --> 00:14:24,554
So, just interesting that they
pulled together a lot of things

352
00:14:24,554 --> 00:14:26,594
from the different Oz books.

353
00:14:26,614 --> 00:14:32,124
So, if you're young, you like reading,
I might recommend getting the original

354
00:14:32,134 --> 00:14:34,274
series of the Oz books and reading them.

355
00:14:35,014 --> 00:14:40,874
And if you're older, you enjoy older
novels, more mature, the Wicked series

356
00:14:42,904 --> 00:14:44,224
is really, really good.

357
00:14:44,234 --> 00:14:49,684
Very mature, but it kind of takes
that whole legend of asthma and the

358
00:14:49,684 --> 00:14:53,744
explanation of why animals talk, and
it takes another kind of political

359
00:14:53,764 --> 00:14:57,194
turn with it, and it's really amazing.

360
00:14:57,194 --> 00:14:57,884
It's a great series.

361
00:14:57,884 --> 00:14:59,934
This is the last one of
the series out of Oz.

362
00:15:00,254 --> 00:15:01,094
I've read all of them.

363
00:15:01,764 --> 00:15:05,494
Uh, Wicked, Son of a Witch, Lying
Among Men, and Watch your mouth,

364
00:15:05,534 --> 00:15:06,164
watch your language there.

365
00:15:06,854 --> 00:15:09,134
Oh, oh, you said Son of a Witch,
of a Witch, they're over there.

366
00:15:09,454 --> 00:15:10,914
Those guys over there,
they're Sons of Witches.

367
00:15:10,914 --> 00:15:11,174
That's Sons

368
00:15:11,174 --> 00:15:12,024
of Witches over there.

369
00:15:12,084 --> 00:15:13,054
Those Sons of Witches.

370
00:15:13,284 --> 00:15:15,444
Now, you got final thoughts on this movie?

371
00:15:17,904 --> 00:15:18,614
A lot, huh?

372
00:15:18,704 --> 00:15:23,584
A lot of final thoughts, but, uh,
first of all, who we did in, uh

373
00:15:23,724 --> 00:15:24,144
The Craft.

374
00:15:24,174 --> 00:15:24,324
The

375
00:15:24,324 --> 00:15:29,579
Craft, I mean, I think to tie it
all together, That's, that's my

376
00:15:29,629 --> 00:15:31,589
takeaway is she did an amazing job.

377
00:15:31,609 --> 00:15:32,849
She's just a little girl.

378
00:15:33,179 --> 00:15:36,529
I was a little skeptical at first
being like really she's Dorothy.

379
00:15:36,609 --> 00:15:37,539
I don't know about this.

380
00:15:37,569 --> 00:15:41,379
Yeah, I'll give it a shot Watched
it and I was like, I love her.

381
00:15:41,379 --> 00:15:42,539
She's so cute.

382
00:15:42,569 --> 00:15:46,089
And she really does an amazing job the
acting I think she does a great job.

383
00:15:46,129 --> 00:15:46,609
She does.

384
00:15:46,619 --> 00:15:48,199
She's she's she's wonderful.

385
00:15:48,199 --> 00:15:48,829
She's amazing.

386
00:15:48,829 --> 00:15:49,399
She's awesome.

387
00:15:49,409 --> 00:15:54,709
I loved her in this movie Thank
you to the one time and only time

388
00:15:54,709 --> 00:15:56,489
director for making this movie.

389
00:15:56,569 --> 00:15:58,454
Yeah I gotta tell you

390
00:15:58,454 --> 00:16:01,474
though what the real horror is,
and this is my final thought, and

391
00:16:01,474 --> 00:16:04,094
it's Disney's marketing department.

392
00:16:05,454 --> 00:16:10,414
This film was about as well promoted
as a county fair and a thunderstorm,

393
00:16:10,424 --> 00:16:15,954
like really it was, like that's
what it was, and you gotta think it

394
00:16:15,954 --> 00:16:20,254
came out in the 80s, you got neon
colors and pastel and all that, and

395
00:16:20,254 --> 00:16:21,564
then here comes this dark fantasy.

396
00:16:21,884 --> 00:16:26,604
So they really didn't know what the
hell to do with it, and It's more Tim

397
00:16:26,614 --> 00:16:32,274
Burton than it was Walt Disney at a
time when Tim Burton wasn't around.

398
00:16:32,444 --> 00:16:34,234
Like, he wasn't doing
this kind of stuff yet.

399
00:16:34,234 --> 00:16:36,304
So, I gotta say that's, yeah.

400
00:16:36,524 --> 00:16:41,324
So, on that, the final note for
me is this is a cult classic.

401
00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:44,504
It is remembered because
it dared to be different.

402
00:16:44,544 --> 00:16:45,664
All you kids, listen.

403
00:16:46,964 --> 00:16:48,444
Dare to be different.

404
00:16:49,109 --> 00:16:52,229
At everything you do because you
can't get any weirder than this, okay?

405
00:16:53,519 --> 00:16:53,949
Thank you guys.

406
00:16:53,949 --> 00:16:57,449
Let's

407
00:16:57,575 --> 00:17:00,775
now it's time that we didn't
tell the people here that this is

408
00:17:00,775 --> 00:17:03,965
actually a double feature and we're
going to watch Hereditary now.

409
00:17:03,985 --> 00:17:05,785
That's A24's movie, Hereditary.

410
00:17:07,035 --> 00:17:12,165
Um, or did, or did you have other
plans for the Hereditary movie?

411
00:17:13,395 --> 00:17:17,935
Well, actually you're going to have
to meet me at a certain location.

412
00:17:18,155 --> 00:17:18,555
Oh man.

413
00:17:18,605 --> 00:17:21,475
And we'll meet, we'll, yeah, this
one's going to be on location.

414
00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:23,570
I'm a little worried about that.

415
00:17:23,670 --> 00:17:24,870
I'm gonna send you the address.

416
00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:26,030
And I'll meet you there.

417
00:17:26,130 --> 00:17:26,240
We

418
00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,040
gotta wear the same clothes?

419
00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,020
Are we going straight there?

420
00:17:28,050 --> 00:17:28,580
What's happening?

421
00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:29,800
Oh, we'll see.

422
00:17:30,270 --> 00:17:31,090
That's interesting.

423
00:17:31,090 --> 00:17:32,370
Alright, now I'm a little
worried about this.

424
00:17:32,380 --> 00:17:34,380
So we're not gonna watch Hereditary
here with the kids and stuff?

425
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,710
Yeah, no.

426
00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,970
This one is one I had to
watch through my, my fingers.

427
00:17:38,970 --> 00:17:39,370
It's a great

428
00:17:39,370 --> 00:17:40,320
family movie though.

429
00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:41,390
I mean, it's all about family.

430
00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,530
It is all about family.

431
00:17:42,530 --> 00:17:43,020
That's true.

432
00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:44,170
Hereditary, yeah.

433
00:17:44,170 --> 00:17:44,633
It's all

434
00:17:44,633 --> 00:17:45,328
about family, but.

435
00:17:45,328 --> 00:17:46,950
Alright, let's get out there and see.

436
00:17:47,544 --> 00:17:50,934
Courtney, where have you led me to?

437
00:17:51,924 --> 00:17:53,054
Does this look familiar to you at all?

438
00:17:55,414 --> 00:17:56,814
Maybe the cemetery?

439
00:17:56,894 --> 00:17:57,644
I'm a little

440
00:17:58,004 --> 00:17:58,654
concerned.

441
00:18:01,644 --> 00:18:03,524
This looks really familiar.

442
00:18:03,524 --> 00:18:04,974
And you know what though?

443
00:18:05,014 --> 00:18:08,174
As I was driving up, today
it was supposed to be warm.

444
00:18:08,899 --> 00:18:09,459
Sunny?

445
00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:11,359
Closer I got.

446
00:18:11,399 --> 00:18:12,789
It got colder over here.

447
00:18:12,969 --> 00:18:13,629
It got darker.

448
00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:15,479
Yep, I can see like

449
00:18:15,509 --> 00:18:17,089
dark clouds rolled in right over us.

450
00:18:17,169 --> 00:18:18,319
Am I looking at?

451
00:18:19,819 --> 00:18:23,739
This is where they filmed the funeral
scene for Hereditary, is it not?

452
00:18:23,819 --> 00:18:23,929
Yeah,

453
00:18:24,769 --> 00:18:24,979
yeah.

454
00:18:25,429 --> 00:18:26,919
Oh my gosh, I got.

455
00:18:26,929 --> 00:18:27,109
We have

456
00:18:27,109 --> 00:18:29,839
a cemetery over here on our other side.

457
00:18:30,669 --> 00:18:31,300
Are we sitting on?

458
00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:32,362
And the view of the mountains.

459
00:18:32,362 --> 00:18:33,439
Are we sitting on bodies?

460
00:18:35,054 --> 00:18:35,424
It's possible.

461
00:18:35,494 --> 00:18:36,224
It's possible.

462
00:18:36,244 --> 00:18:36,534
Oh my

463
00:18:36,534 --> 00:18:37,004
gosh.

464
00:18:37,154 --> 00:18:37,984
With all due respect.

465
00:18:38,794 --> 00:18:41,574
Now we don't want to name where
this cemetery is, but we do want

466
00:18:41,574 --> 00:18:46,554
to say thank you to them for being,
it's beautiful out here, but yeah.

467
00:18:46,894 --> 00:18:47,084
It's no

468
00:18:47,084 --> 00:18:51,664
wonder that they like this location for
filming because the mountains are awesome.

469
00:18:51,674 --> 00:18:52,154
They are.

470
00:18:52,364 --> 00:18:55,594
And I wondered when watching it,
because I didn't know, but the mountains

471
00:18:55,664 --> 00:18:57,334
and things, it looked like Colorado.

472
00:18:58,124 --> 00:19:01,484
And I kept thinking maybe they
filmed this in Colorado, but

473
00:19:01,484 --> 00:19:02,954
I think Ari Aster likes Utah.

474
00:19:03,364 --> 00:19:05,364
Ari Aster really liked Utah right here.

475
00:19:05,364 --> 00:19:07,344
And there's, yeah, like
you said he had to.

476
00:19:07,434 --> 00:19:15,614
Um, this movie, we tried to find a through
line for Return to Oz and for Hereditary.

477
00:19:15,984 --> 00:19:18,214
And honestly, we just picked these
two movies because, I mean, it

478
00:19:18,214 --> 00:19:20,524
was, what, Return to Oz was creepy.

479
00:19:20,524 --> 00:19:21,374
We wanted to do it.

480
00:19:21,684 --> 00:19:27,444
And then we had, uh, Hereditary
and She had never seen Hereditary,

481
00:19:27,594 --> 00:19:32,574
and Novel Daybreak recommended
Hereditary, which I don't, honestly,

482
00:19:32,574 --> 00:19:33,554
we shouldn't say that because

483
00:19:35,924 --> 00:19:37,456
An employee at Novel One

484
00:19:37,456 --> 00:19:38,304
of the employees

485
00:19:38,304 --> 00:19:40,784
Recommended Hereditary, so

486
00:19:40,844 --> 00:19:43,614
He's like, I love horror movies, you
guys are doing Hereditary, right?

487
00:19:43,644 --> 00:19:47,824
And we're like Uh, well, actually, no,
we didn't have it on the list, but we

488
00:19:47,824 --> 00:19:48,974
had to give it a second look, right?

489
00:19:49,024 --> 00:19:49,164
Yeah.

490
00:19:49,294 --> 00:19:51,864
Because, well, let's figure
out where this fits in.

491
00:19:52,174 --> 00:19:55,514
And it may have felt like we threw
these two movies at the very end, like,

492
00:19:56,274 --> 00:19:59,264
we wanted them on the list, we wanted
to do them, but we weren't sure where

493
00:19:59,264 --> 00:20:00,924
they fit in, so we threw them together.

494
00:20:01,684 --> 00:20:06,364
But as we were watching Return to
Oz, Saturday at our live event,

495
00:20:06,874 --> 00:20:09,434
I was like, there's a lot of
headless stuff going on here.

496
00:20:09,534 --> 00:20:10,064
Yes.

497
00:20:10,614 --> 00:20:12,374
So I think there is a through line.

498
00:20:12,454 --> 00:20:14,854
I think you looked at me at one
point and you're like, that's it!

499
00:20:14,854 --> 00:20:18,174
And we both looked at each other
because we, we said, you know what?

500
00:20:18,674 --> 00:20:24,264
Hereditary's got a lot of different
kinds of headlessness that comes up.

501
00:20:24,754 --> 00:20:30,174
Now, this movie, if you
haven't seen it, it's,

502
00:20:32,454 --> 00:20:32,984
feel good.

503
00:20:33,164 --> 00:20:34,224
It's a laugh a minute, right?

504
00:20:34,224 --> 00:20:34,284
It's funny.

505
00:20:34,674 --> 00:20:35,384
It's a great flick.

506
00:20:35,414 --> 00:20:35,814
Oh, yeah.

507
00:20:35,844 --> 00:20:36,104
Huh?

508
00:20:36,224 --> 00:20:36,724
Oh, yeah.

509
00:20:37,084 --> 00:20:37,864
Family.

510
00:20:37,914 --> 00:20:39,764
Smile and ear to ear when
you're watching this movie.

511
00:20:39,964 --> 00:20:40,484
Am I right?

512
00:20:40,644 --> 00:20:45,374
Beautiful, loving family lives in
a beautiful mountain range home.

513
00:20:46,114 --> 00:20:46,554
I mean,

514
00:20:46,864 --> 00:20:47,924
it's all fun and games.

515
00:20:47,924 --> 00:20:48,254
Awesome

516
00:20:48,264 --> 00:20:49,514
tree house.

517
00:20:49,594 --> 00:20:49,994
Right.

518
00:20:50,044 --> 00:20:50,894
What more could you ask for?

519
00:20:51,604 --> 00:20:52,004
Great American family.

520
00:20:52,024 --> 00:20:57,924
If your idea of a good time revolves
around heart palpitations and sweating,

521
00:20:58,374 --> 00:21:00,314
then yes, you'll enjoy this movie.

522
00:21:00,314 --> 00:21:00,634
Yeah.

523
00:21:00,859 --> 00:21:04,049
But it's another A24 film
and it is a miserable watch.

524
00:21:04,429 --> 00:21:05,059
Once again.

525
00:21:05,169 --> 00:21:05,409
Yeah.

526
00:21:05,409 --> 00:21:08,139
Which is a common theme in the A24 movies.

527
00:21:08,369 --> 00:21:10,569
And hey, I mean that in
the best kind of way.

528
00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:11,619
Because.

529
00:21:12,009 --> 00:21:16,579
The atmosphere, everything from the
beginning of this movie is, we're

530
00:21:16,849 --> 00:21:20,699
sitting here, it feels, there's
an atmosphere even sitting here.

531
00:21:20,899 --> 00:21:22,409
I mean, we are in a cemetery, so.

532
00:21:23,469 --> 00:21:25,939
Which is where I find a lot of
peace and comfort, personally.

533
00:21:25,989 --> 00:21:26,419
It is,

534
00:21:26,499 --> 00:21:27,549
it is peaceful out here.

535
00:21:28,609 --> 00:21:32,839
Not, not that part though, not, not,
you can already tell in the beginning

536
00:21:32,839 --> 00:21:37,534
of this movie that, You know what?

537
00:21:37,994 --> 00:21:40,204
Did you have some more
thoughts on Return to Oz?

538
00:21:40,234 --> 00:21:40,734
Because

539
00:21:41,074 --> 00:21:43,264
Well, I will say, so the headless

540
00:21:43,564 --> 00:21:43,884
part.

541
00:21:43,884 --> 00:21:44,554
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

542
00:21:44,994 --> 00:21:49,134
I remember, so we kind of showed at
the event the, uh, the little golden

543
00:21:49,134 --> 00:21:50,934
books they had of Return to Oz.

544
00:21:50,954 --> 00:21:52,784
I used to have one when I was a kid.

545
00:21:53,404 --> 00:21:57,524
And, um, this may speak to my
morbid fascination with things.

546
00:21:57,524 --> 00:21:58,094
I don't know.

547
00:21:58,124 --> 00:22:01,034
But I remember being
obsessed with that book.

548
00:22:01,104 --> 00:22:04,774
I remember looking at
the pages so carefully.

549
00:22:05,034 --> 00:22:06,694
The cabinets full of heads.

550
00:22:07,329 --> 00:22:10,099
And then the part where they're
screaming so they had an illustrated

551
00:22:10,099 --> 00:22:12,639
version of these heads and
they're like Mouths are open.

552
00:22:12,889 --> 00:22:14,719
I remember staring at that.

553
00:22:14,969 --> 00:22:19,689
I was probably five years old and I
was just like, what is happening here?

554
00:22:20,069 --> 00:22:22,059
I had never seen the movie, not then.

555
00:22:22,349 --> 00:22:25,479
So I was like, I don't know
what this is, but this is not

556
00:22:25,479 --> 00:22:26,749
the Wizard of Oz that I know.

557
00:22:27,219 --> 00:22:33,729
And I'm looking at it real hard and I kept
thinking, am I allowed to look at this?

558
00:22:33,729 --> 00:22:34,359
Is this okay?

559
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:35,139
I'm a kid.

560
00:22:35,139 --> 00:22:38,819
But I was fascinated with
the headless heads and the.

561
00:22:39,194 --> 00:22:43,094
And the princess, Mambi,
chasing her with no head.

562
00:22:43,264 --> 00:22:43,434
Oh yeah.

563
00:22:43,514 --> 00:22:46,019
And she's, they're all
screaming, Dorothy Gale!

564
00:22:46,019 --> 00:22:46,714
Dorothy Gale!

565
00:22:46,794 --> 00:22:48,584
It is scary.

566
00:22:48,924 --> 00:22:51,864
A lot of adults there that night
said, Yeah, I could never watch

567
00:22:51,864 --> 00:22:52,784
this movie when I was a kid.

568
00:22:53,084 --> 00:22:55,894
I mean, even the kids there, I
mean, They had their mouths open.

569
00:22:55,894 --> 00:22:57,194
I saw yours at one point over there.

570
00:22:57,194 --> 00:22:57,284
Yeah, I

571
00:22:57,284 --> 00:22:58,144
took some pictures of my kids.

572
00:22:58,254 --> 00:22:58,334
That

573
00:22:58,354 --> 00:22:58,954
was wild.

574
00:22:59,164 --> 00:23:00,254
What was it, the wheelers got them?

575
00:23:00,734 --> 00:23:01,164
Maybe.

576
00:23:01,214 --> 00:23:01,704
I think it was.

577
00:23:01,704 --> 00:23:02,314
It was the wheelers.

578
00:23:02,684 --> 00:23:07,064
Maybe just the whole, dark,
uh, kind of feel of the film

579
00:23:07,074 --> 00:23:08,584
maybe that they had about it.

580
00:23:08,594 --> 00:23:09,994
They were just a little,
they were fascinated.

581
00:23:10,014 --> 00:23:12,814
And if you thought that was
dark, it's not as dark as this

582
00:23:13,404 --> 00:23:13,554
one.

583
00:23:13,554 --> 00:23:14,514
No, no.

584
00:23:14,514 --> 00:23:18,234
And I have many people who were
like, Oh yeah, I like horror movies.

585
00:23:18,234 --> 00:23:20,834
And then I mentioned this one and
they're like, Oh, couldn't do that one.

586
00:23:21,304 --> 00:23:22,054
Couldn't watch that.

587
00:23:22,134 --> 00:23:28,234
Now, you know what, this one, it's
got a weird backstory with the

588
00:23:28,244 --> 00:23:31,744
movie itself because at first it
didn't have the horror elements and

589
00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:33,704
it was just going to be a drama.

590
00:23:34,224 --> 00:23:35,204
And I believe that.

591
00:23:35,809 --> 00:23:40,859
Ari and, and, and whoever
else involved threw me in.

592
00:23:41,469 --> 00:23:43,649
wrote in the, the demon and stuff.

593
00:23:43,999 --> 00:23:45,619
And you'll get more, we'll get more.

594
00:23:46,469 --> 00:23:47,039
Deep dive

595
00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:47,519
into that.

596
00:23:47,529 --> 00:23:47,819
Yeah.

597
00:23:47,819 --> 00:23:49,121
And so what's the demon's name?

598
00:23:49,121 --> 00:23:49,456
Piamon.

599
00:23:49,456 --> 00:23:49,792
Piamon.

600
00:23:49,792 --> 00:23:50,128
Piamon.

601
00:23:50,128 --> 00:23:50,800
All right.

602
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,471
That's how

603
00:23:51,471 --> 00:23:52,479
I say it.

604
00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:53,319
Piemon.

605
00:23:53,489 --> 00:23:53,729
Piemon.

606
00:23:53,889 --> 00:23:54,549
Piemon.

607
00:23:55,299 --> 00:23:56,729
But this is

608
00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:00,089
right from the beginning.

609
00:24:00,089 --> 00:24:05,429
And, and you have, we did a pumpkin walk
and we saw a pumpkin with miniatures

610
00:24:05,429 --> 00:24:08,769
and me and Courtney both were like, Oh,
we're not getting close to that thing.

611
00:24:08,769 --> 00:24:12,469
Because the opening shot of
this is like, it's a miniature

612
00:24:12,499 --> 00:24:14,259
and it's tied into the movie.

613
00:24:14,509 --> 00:24:23,199
Big time later, but it's a miniature and
you, you have a long, long slow zoom and

614
00:24:23,459 --> 00:24:28,929
then there's that cool transition where
it goes to real people walking in and

615
00:24:28,939 --> 00:24:30,689
you got, you got the real stuff going on.

616
00:24:33,234 --> 00:24:36,794
Very symbolic of like, we're
going into this other world.

617
00:24:36,864 --> 00:24:42,534
This isn't reality exactly,
but kind of, I don't know, but

618
00:24:42,534 --> 00:24:45,894
it's so like the miniatures
themselves throughout the movie.

619
00:24:45,894 --> 00:24:47,274
They're so realistic.

620
00:24:47,334 --> 00:24:49,924
So when it comes and zooms
in and then it comes to life.

621
00:24:49,984 --> 00:24:50,304
Oh, yeah.

622
00:24:50,994 --> 00:24:53,284
The room that we're in it.

623
00:24:53,674 --> 00:24:53,974
Yeah.

624
00:24:54,154 --> 00:24:55,834
A lot of symbol, symbolism going on.

625
00:24:55,894 --> 00:24:58,084
There is, and you know what, I'll tell
you, I'll tell you this right now, we

626
00:24:58,084 --> 00:24:59,554
will not be able to get to all of it.

627
00:25:00,034 --> 00:25:00,154
Yeah.

628
00:25:00,154 --> 00:25:04,444
We will not be able to pull out every
single symbol because every time I watch

629
00:25:04,444 --> 00:25:07,944
this movie, I guarantee you I've seen
this movie, I've seen it 10 plus times.

630
00:25:08,504 --> 00:25:13,784
My best friend back in, back in, uh,
back from Memphis, Derek, he loves

631
00:25:13,784 --> 00:25:14,774
this movie and he's the one that.

632
00:25:14,909 --> 00:25:19,159
Put me onto this the first time and
he said COVID was a hell of a drug.

633
00:25:20,509 --> 00:25:22,359
He watched this movie about
12 times during COVID.

634
00:25:22,729 --> 00:25:27,579
But yeah, um, it is, it's,
it's an incredible watch.

635
00:25:27,579 --> 00:25:29,939
It's, it's a great watch,
but you do notice something

636
00:25:29,939 --> 00:25:31,219
different every single time.

637
00:25:31,229 --> 00:25:31,799
You see it.

638
00:25:34,569 --> 00:25:37,939
It's almost like if you don't pay
attention, you won't be scared.

639
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:39,389
Yeah.

640
00:25:39,409 --> 00:25:39,489
Does

641
00:25:39,489 --> 00:25:40,059
it make sense?

642
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,639
Like if you watch this
movie, you know, that's

643
00:25:41,649 --> 00:25:41,859
true.

644
00:25:41,889 --> 00:25:44,389
My mom is the one who, and
she likes horror movies too.

645
00:25:44,389 --> 00:25:45,479
She's she's all right with that.

646
00:25:45,479 --> 00:25:48,849
But I was like, this is probably of
all the lineup we've had in this.

647
00:25:50,094 --> 00:25:50,744
Series.

648
00:25:51,604 --> 00:25:53,734
This one I was probably
the most freaked out.

649
00:25:53,744 --> 00:25:56,674
This is the one during watching it
I was the most freaked out, but uh,

650
00:25:56,694 --> 00:25:59,184
but I said something to my mom I'm
like, oh my gosh, have you seen this?

651
00:25:59,204 --> 00:26:01,064
And she's like, oh, yeah.

652
00:26:01,064 --> 00:26:01,374
Yeah.

653
00:26:01,374 --> 00:26:01,494
Yeah.

654
00:26:01,494 --> 00:26:02,224
I did see that one.

655
00:26:02,224 --> 00:26:03,944
It's alright.

656
00:26:03,944 --> 00:26:07,504
I didn't really get that scared and
I was like, well, did you see this?

657
00:26:07,914 --> 00:26:08,664
And did you see this?

658
00:26:08,694 --> 00:26:10,964
And she goes, Oh, I
didn't notice any of that.

659
00:26:11,054 --> 00:26:11,664
Yeah, see?

660
00:26:11,684 --> 00:26:12,959
I'm like, You weren't paying attention!

661
00:26:12,959 --> 00:26:14,124
You gotta watch it again!

662
00:26:14,364 --> 00:26:15,194
It's very subtle.

663
00:26:15,194 --> 00:26:16,694
There's so many subtle little things.

664
00:26:17,034 --> 00:26:20,864
And it, it, it is, uh, it,
it takes you off guard.

665
00:26:20,944 --> 00:26:22,944
It's a boring watch, if
you don't pay attention.

666
00:26:22,944 --> 00:26:23,344
I know.

667
00:26:23,384 --> 00:26:23,974
It really is.

668
00:26:23,974 --> 00:26:24,784
It's a boring watch.

669
00:26:24,844 --> 00:26:30,084
And that means, yeah, you've got to
really look at this movie from a different

670
00:26:30,084 --> 00:26:31,294
perspective when you're watching it.

671
00:26:31,634 --> 00:26:35,724
And sure, watch it for
what it is the first time.

672
00:26:35,934 --> 00:26:38,254
And then when you start thinking
about stuff, you go back and be

673
00:26:38,254 --> 00:26:39,204
like, Oh my gosh, they did this.

674
00:26:39,534 --> 00:26:40,554
Ari did all that for a reason.

675
00:26:40,574 --> 00:26:41,594
Like, it was all on purpose.

676
00:26:42,404 --> 00:26:43,084
It's brilliant.

677
00:26:43,104 --> 00:26:44,104
When we're It is brilliant.

678
00:26:44,104 --> 00:26:44,184
The

679
00:26:44,184 --> 00:26:50,714
opening of the movie basically
is when, uh, Toni Collette, her

680
00:26:50,714 --> 00:26:53,124
mom, in the movie has passed.

681
00:26:53,694 --> 00:26:55,134
And yeah, we'll get to Toni Collette.

682
00:26:55,734 --> 00:26:58,884
But her mom in the movie has passed
and they are in this cemetery right

683
00:26:58,884 --> 00:27:01,044
here where we sit, this mountain rank.

684
00:27:01,564 --> 00:27:02,594
Still a little weirded out.

685
00:27:03,614 --> 00:27:03,914
But!

686
00:27:04,769 --> 00:27:05,209
Yeah,

687
00:27:05,579 --> 00:27:05,939
they

688
00:27:05,949 --> 00:27:11,329
just kind of feel like it's just kind of
a your good old average old old lady dies

689
00:27:12,099 --> 00:27:15,999
it is and then you get to the
funeral here and there's even subtle

690
00:27:15,999 --> 00:27:21,789
references here because She even
says so many new strange faces here

691
00:27:22,169 --> 00:27:24,759
Yeah, kind of like where
did you all come from?

692
00:27:24,809 --> 00:27:27,819
I didn't see any of you in the
last several years and like,

693
00:27:27,939 --> 00:27:29,199
you know, kind of a vibe.

694
00:27:29,229 --> 00:27:29,689
Ever,

695
00:27:29,689 --> 00:27:32,579
yeah, like ever in your entire,
in my mom's the whole life.

696
00:27:32,579 --> 00:27:34,579
So who are these people that were here?

697
00:27:34,899 --> 00:27:39,799
First of all, you got these, uh,
unsettling, it's an unsettling eulogy

698
00:27:39,809 --> 00:27:42,044
really, like, The whole thing is weird.

699
00:27:42,054 --> 00:27:42,924
It's awkward.

700
00:27:43,554 --> 00:27:44,404
I've been to funerals.

701
00:27:44,414 --> 00:27:45,554
They're not fun.

702
00:27:45,564 --> 00:27:47,094
They're weird and awkward already.

703
00:27:47,314 --> 00:27:49,114
This one takes it to
another level already.

704
00:27:49,114 --> 00:27:49,444
Yeah.

705
00:27:49,514 --> 00:27:53,674
The people that there's certain faces
that you see later in the movie.

706
00:27:53,674 --> 00:27:56,324
So if you're not paying attention,
you'll see like, Oh, these people

707
00:27:56,324 --> 00:27:59,994
that are at this funeral, they kind
of give the, the little girl a look,

708
00:28:00,084 --> 00:28:02,544
this one guy, and you see him later.

709
00:28:02,584 --> 00:28:02,944
Yeah.

710
00:28:02,944 --> 00:28:03,894
Yeah.

711
00:28:03,894 --> 00:28:07,124
So you've got all this stuff already
setting up in the beginning opening scene

712
00:28:07,124 --> 00:28:09,304
that appears to be a normal funeral.

713
00:28:09,304 --> 00:28:09,374
Yeah.

714
00:28:09,714 --> 00:28:10,594
It is not.

715
00:28:11,344 --> 00:28:16,624
Uh, it's, Annie is Tony Collette's
character, so Annie's mom

716
00:28:16,644 --> 00:28:17,714
is the one that passes away.

717
00:28:17,894 --> 00:28:25,084
Charlie is the daughter, and you already
see that she's, she's a little quirky.

718
00:28:25,474 --> 00:28:25,794
Yeah.

719
00:28:25,814 --> 00:28:26,494
Is that the best way to put it?

720
00:28:26,494 --> 00:28:26,894
Yeah,

721
00:28:26,984 --> 00:28:27,474
yeah.

722
00:28:27,774 --> 00:28:30,444
She's probably, uh, born
with some abnormalities.

723
00:28:30,444 --> 00:28:33,244
Abnormalities, yep.

724
00:28:33,244 --> 00:28:37,724
And some, um, she talks about, like, uh,
they, they, uh, Are short to mention,

725
00:28:37,724 --> 00:28:40,534
like she takes out a candy bar and they're
like, Oh, does that have peanuts in it?

726
00:28:40,544 --> 00:28:41,354
She's got allergies.

727
00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:42,314
I mean, there's things.

728
00:28:43,044 --> 00:28:45,434
That's, that's a really interesting
thing that we'll talk about later when

729
00:28:45,434 --> 00:28:49,564
we talk about what may be going on
with the daughter, which is, you know,

730
00:28:49,574 --> 00:28:56,404
that she's born with some illnesses and
some abnormalities that kind of hint

731
00:28:56,434 --> 00:28:57,734
at maybe there's a connection there.

732
00:28:57,964 --> 00:28:58,614
It does.

733
00:28:58,664 --> 00:29:00,374
And she gives off the vibe.

734
00:29:00,374 --> 00:29:04,294
She's, she's the actor
played Charlie's girlfriend.

735
00:29:04,444 --> 00:29:08,214
Amazing too because the role for that
is everybody's so good tough, and

736
00:29:08,214 --> 00:29:14,824
it's an incredible performance but She
really does She she basically embodies.

737
00:29:16,964 --> 00:29:17,954
I don't want nothing to do with that.

738
00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:20,714
Like it's a weird It's a weird feeling
and you see more of that later on.

739
00:29:21,724 --> 00:29:22,974
Uh, Millie Shapiro.

740
00:29:22,984 --> 00:29:27,364
That's who plays charlie Did you
know she had a did you know that?

741
00:29:28,624 --> 00:29:33,914
The sound that is now
Horror, Horror, Iconic.

742
00:29:33,914 --> 00:29:34,959
Yeah.

743
00:29:37,139 --> 00:29:38,129
She had to perfect that.

744
00:29:38,129 --> 00:29:39,139
She learned how to do that.

745
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:40,859
Yeah, it reminds me of The Grudge.

746
00:29:40,909 --> 00:29:41,629
It does.

747
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,639
Or like, uh, yeah, I remember
when The Grudge came out.

748
00:29:44,649 --> 00:29:48,529
This movie, for some reason, it
kept bringing up Grudge vibes.

749
00:29:48,639 --> 00:29:50,539
For, you know, I can't
exactly pinpoint why.

750
00:29:50,849 --> 00:29:54,989
But that sound from The Grudge that
was, and everybody was hearing it.

751
00:29:55,009 --> 00:29:55,809
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

752
00:29:55,809 --> 00:29:57,749
And it would creep, it
would like freak us out.

753
00:29:58,279 --> 00:29:59,499
Um, that became that.

754
00:29:59,499 --> 00:30:02,694
And I swear, the night that we
watched it, The middle of the

755
00:30:02,694 --> 00:30:03,784
night while I was sleeping.

756
00:30:03,784 --> 00:30:03,974
Same.

757
00:30:03,974 --> 00:30:04,704
I swear I heard it.

758
00:30:04,724 --> 00:30:05,084
Same.

759
00:30:05,084 --> 00:30:05,274
And I

760
00:30:05,274 --> 00:30:08,334
guarantee you other people here,
I don't know how that happens.

761
00:30:08,704 --> 00:30:09,114
What was that?

762
00:30:09,144 --> 00:30:09,974
But it's wild.

763
00:30:10,034 --> 00:30:11,284
It's that sound effect.

764
00:30:12,289 --> 00:30:13,219
I thought I just heard a deer.

765
00:30:14,019 --> 00:30:15,599
Man, I can't, I'm, I'm,

766
00:30:17,789 --> 00:30:19,709
what are we doing out here in a cemetery?

767
00:30:21,299 --> 00:30:22,919
It'll be like right
behind you in your ear.

768
00:30:23,569 --> 00:30:24,639
Yeah, that's brilliant though.

769
00:30:24,659 --> 00:30:27,139
I mean, if you really want to get
into somebody's psyche and be like

770
00:30:27,179 --> 00:30:31,619
the psychological thrillers like this
that are just, uh, they dig deep,

771
00:30:31,739 --> 00:30:33,789
burrowed into your subconscious.

772
00:30:34,129 --> 00:30:34,859
You know what?

773
00:30:34,949 --> 00:30:37,529
Let me go off on a rant here
for just a minute because

774
00:30:39,709 --> 00:30:42,089
I want to say back in my day,
but it's not that I'm not that

775
00:30:42,089 --> 00:30:45,399
old, but there was a time for us.

776
00:30:46,529 --> 00:30:50,249
Where horror movies at least had the
decency to show you who's gonna get

777
00:30:50,649 --> 00:30:53,389
sliced up and diced up at the beginning.

778
00:30:53,929 --> 00:30:59,869
Like, you knew who it was, but now we've
got this psychological warfare that Yeah,

779
00:31:01,249 --> 00:31:03,399
it'll stay with you long after.

780
00:31:03,539 --> 00:31:07,204
Instead of a 90 minute Slash your film.

781
00:31:07,434 --> 00:31:08,524
We know what's gonna happen.

782
00:31:08,524 --> 00:31:09,204
We see it.

783
00:31:09,574 --> 00:31:11,154
We can watch the two minute trailer.

784
00:31:11,484 --> 00:31:13,474
And we see the whole movie
in the two minute trailer.

785
00:31:13,714 --> 00:31:14,364
No, no, no, no, no.

786
00:31:14,364 --> 00:31:15,254
You gotta sit here.

787
00:31:15,504 --> 00:31:17,684
And basically we're
getting swindled out there.

788
00:31:18,234 --> 00:31:20,884
We're getting swindled out and we're
getting brought in here like this is

789
00:31:20,884 --> 00:31:22,514
a family drama movie, like I said.

790
00:31:22,814 --> 00:31:25,724
And then the pants scared
off of us because, man.

791
00:31:25,724 --> 00:31:26,114
Yeah.

792
00:31:26,174 --> 00:31:29,584
I couldn't have told from the
trailer or from the poster.

793
00:31:31,574 --> 00:31:34,544
I would not be able to look at it and be
like, okay, I know what's happening here.

794
00:31:34,544 --> 00:31:35,954
I know who the killer is.

795
00:31:36,434 --> 00:31:37,874
I know what's going to happen.

796
00:31:38,484 --> 00:31:39,444
I would never have been able to do that.

797
00:31:39,444 --> 00:31:48,334
So, past the cemetery, we're at
the, basically, The next little bit

798
00:31:48,334 --> 00:31:54,394
of the movie and this is where the
creepiness it amps up quite a bit

799
00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:54,984
Yeah,

800
00:31:55,014 --> 00:31:58,254
you got Annie making these tiny
little dollhouses She's getting

801
00:31:58,294 --> 00:32:03,044
I am absolutely fascinated by I went to
like a miniatures museum in chicago one

802
00:32:03,044 --> 00:32:06,704
time They had an exhibit with a like a
whole room full of miniature dollhouses

803
00:32:06,704 --> 00:32:11,084
and stuff and I was fascinated Things
that are like teeny tiny but look real.

804
00:32:11,514 --> 00:32:13,724
That was like the most Probably one
of my favorite parts of the movie.

805
00:32:13,734 --> 00:32:15,654
I was like, oh, this is amazing.

806
00:32:15,674 --> 00:32:16,094
Look at this.

807
00:32:16,214 --> 00:32:17,034
She's an artist.

808
00:32:17,044 --> 00:32:18,094
Those things were incredible.

809
00:32:18,094 --> 00:32:20,184
Those little, the miniatures
they had on set were awesome.

810
00:32:20,384 --> 00:32:23,724
Honestly, the scene later on where it
all gets torn up, I go, ooh, I cringed.

811
00:32:23,724 --> 00:32:24,304
I did too.

812
00:32:24,804 --> 00:32:25,104
I was like,

813
00:32:25,124 --> 00:32:29,824
no, but that's, that, that's
indicative of a, a, a mother artist.

814
00:32:29,824 --> 00:32:33,154
You know, you never have time to
really like, Devote to the craft.

815
00:32:33,164 --> 00:32:35,304
So I really felt for her in that moment.

816
00:32:35,724 --> 00:32:39,084
But yeah, you got to pay attention
to those scenes though, because

817
00:32:39,234 --> 00:32:44,474
each one is like a little clue and
it'll narrow in on that and it'll

818
00:32:44,474 --> 00:32:45,944
show you something that's going on.

819
00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,104
And you're like, wait, what does
that have to do with anything?

820
00:32:48,124 --> 00:32:49,464
And you see it throw back.

821
00:32:49,674 --> 00:32:49,874
And it

822
00:32:49,874 --> 00:32:50,934
gets darker and darker.

823
00:32:50,934 --> 00:32:53,574
And basically these are little
shrines that she's building

824
00:32:53,574 --> 00:32:55,674
towards her family dysfunction.

825
00:32:55,674 --> 00:32:56,574
I think is what it is.

826
00:32:56,574 --> 00:32:59,794
It's like, She's building these
little things and she knows it in

827
00:32:59,794 --> 00:33:03,964
her head or maybe it's some other
supernatural, whatever's going on.

828
00:33:03,964 --> 00:33:04,554
I thought maybe this

829
00:33:04,554 --> 00:33:08,974
was just her, her artistic expression
and way of like processing grief,

830
00:33:09,144 --> 00:33:13,384
processing what traumatic things
she'd experienced in her life.

831
00:33:13,474 --> 00:33:15,314
And, I mean, that's kind of brilliant.

832
00:33:15,364 --> 00:33:15,704
Which, yeah.

833
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:21,549
That's you are a connoisseur of those
kind of things, don't you know a lot of

834
00:33:21,549 --> 00:33:22,499
respect for that?

835
00:33:22,499 --> 00:33:25,979
Because that's what we do in, uh, in,
uh, integrated processing technique.

836
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:27,379
Um, the healing work that I do.

837
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:30,879
I don't necessarily, uh,
The way that it works.

838
00:33:30,899 --> 00:33:33,799
It's not with art, but I
have partnered it with art.

839
00:33:33,889 --> 00:33:37,199
So that people can paint out
their feelings, emotions and grief

840
00:33:37,199 --> 00:33:39,609
and you know, whatever heaviness
that they've got going on.

841
00:33:39,619 --> 00:33:41,799
So I had a lot of respect for
that part of the movie thinking,

842
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:44,899
Oh, she's as morbid as it seems.

843
00:33:45,159 --> 00:33:47,649
Cause I could see the husband
when in certain parts, when

844
00:33:47,649 --> 00:33:49,204
certain traumatic things have

845
00:33:49,204 --> 00:33:49,919
happened

846
00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:52,129
and he's like, what are you doing?

847
00:33:53,649 --> 00:33:54,789
What if our son sees this?

848
00:33:55,049 --> 00:33:56,009
You know, he lived through it.

849
00:33:56,039 --> 00:34:00,014
And she's like, She's doing it as if
she has no problem with it at all.

850
00:34:00,394 --> 00:34:01,684
Like, it's not traumatic to her.

851
00:34:01,684 --> 00:34:03,354
I think that's kind of amazing.

852
00:34:03,364 --> 00:34:03,834
Even,

853
00:34:04,034 --> 00:34:05,854
the one that really bothered
me was the telephone pole.

854
00:34:06,644 --> 00:34:07,514
The telephone pole.

855
00:34:08,634 --> 00:34:09,434
And she was just doing it.

856
00:34:09,434 --> 00:34:11,524
She was painting the blood on the asphalt.

857
00:34:11,554 --> 00:34:13,374
Yeah, and now And I was like,

858
00:34:14,344 --> 00:34:14,364
UGH!

859
00:34:14,394 --> 00:34:18,584
So, so, don't forget about
Peter, their teenage son.

860
00:34:18,594 --> 00:34:19,644
He's got his own issues.

861
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:26,129
And he's the one who goes
to the party with Charlie.

862
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:32,329
Charlie has a reaction because she
eats nuts, something with nuts in it.

863
00:34:32,329 --> 00:34:32,409
Yeah.

864
00:34:32,729 --> 00:34:33,739
The cake has walnuts in it.

865
00:34:33,739 --> 00:34:34,279
The cake.

866
00:34:34,289 --> 00:34:34,579
Yep.

867
00:34:34,759 --> 00:34:35,209
And then.

868
00:34:36,529 --> 00:34:38,299
The, she goes into the, what is that

869
00:34:38,299 --> 00:34:38,479
called?

870
00:34:38,479 --> 00:34:40,089
Hy Hyper something Shock.

871
00:34:40,499 --> 00:34:41,264
Oh yeah.

872
00:34:41,264 --> 00:34:41,265
Yeah.

873
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:41,969
You need an EpiPen.

874
00:34:42,179 --> 00:34:42,629
Basically.

875
00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:43,979
You should have EpiPen and Jo.

876
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:44,429
Yeah.

877
00:34:44,429 --> 00:34:44,944
They didn't

878
00:34:44,944 --> 00:34:45,384
have an EpiPen

879
00:34:45,959 --> 00:34:46,139
with them.

880
00:34:46,139 --> 00:34:46,154
I dunno.

881
00:34:46,154 --> 00:34:46,229
I

882
00:34:46,229 --> 00:34:48,269
kept shouting that at the
TV screen the whole time.

883
00:34:48,269 --> 00:34:49,259
I'm like, where's your EpiPen?

884
00:34:49,259 --> 00:34:49,319
Yeah.

885
00:34:50,189 --> 00:34:50,399
Really?

886
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:50,699
She needs it.

887
00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:50,759
You

888
00:34:50,759 --> 00:34:53,309
think you would think somebody had
a one or somebody at that party.

889
00:34:53,309 --> 00:34:57,299
But then again, yeah, we, we know that
this is gonna go off the rails anyway.

890
00:34:57,329 --> 00:34:57,389
Yeah.

891
00:34:57,389 --> 00:34:58,919
And this is where we
really go off the rails.

892
00:34:58,919 --> 00:35:04,069
And if we haven't been creeped out
already, well we get a little gore.

893
00:35:04,249 --> 00:35:04,279
Oh.

894
00:35:05,799 --> 00:35:10,199
It was pretty horrific, that whole
scene, driving down the road,

895
00:35:10,499 --> 00:35:12,649
swerving to not hit the deer.

896
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,789
I was like, I don't think
I breathed the entire time.

897
00:35:17,249 --> 00:35:22,099
And then when he's sitting in the
car and everybody's just frozen,

898
00:35:22,749 --> 00:35:24,399
it's like prolonged, right?

899
00:35:24,399 --> 00:35:28,859
Like that scene just goes on
forever and you're like, no, no, no.

900
00:35:28,939 --> 00:35:32,239
I just remember sitting on
my couch just being like, no,

901
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,304
he's going to Rearview mirror.

902
00:35:34,624 --> 00:35:34,824
Yeah.

903
00:35:35,104 --> 00:35:35,424
Into the

904
00:35:35,424 --> 00:35:35,934
backseat.

905
00:35:36,374 --> 00:35:37,644
And I was like, no, no,

906
00:35:37,644 --> 00:35:37,864
no.

907
00:35:38,114 --> 00:35:39,054
And he doesn't though.

908
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:40,009
Like, they,

909
00:35:40,009 --> 00:35:41,779
it's,

910
00:35:42,359 --> 00:35:48,019
I can't imagine, the way that that's made
and filmed, it's, that's more realistic.

911
00:35:48,019 --> 00:35:51,999
Now, this is realistic horror,
is what this is, because,

912
00:35:53,269 --> 00:35:54,389
it hits you right in the feels.

913
00:35:54,459 --> 00:35:54,679
It

914
00:35:54,769 --> 00:35:56,889
does, and you're like,
oh, what would I do?

915
00:35:56,919 --> 00:35:58,389
Or, oh, what, what,

916
00:35:58,389 --> 00:36:01,634
I don't, oh, the trauma of living
through that, that poor boy.

917
00:36:01,894 --> 00:36:03,664
I just kept thinking, Oh, that poor kid.

918
00:36:03,664 --> 00:36:03,714
And

919
00:36:03,714 --> 00:36:06,424
that's only the beginning of the
trauma in this movie, because

920
00:36:06,464 --> 00:36:07,624
yeah, that's just where it begins.

921
00:36:07,994 --> 00:36:13,344
It is really that that is kind of where
it begins because after that, uh, we,

922
00:36:13,394 --> 00:36:22,284
we start delving even deeper into just
misery, grief, and we get to see the most,

923
00:36:22,554 --> 00:36:26,784
the performance of Tony Collette from.

924
00:36:27,534 --> 00:36:30,404
The beginning of this movie,
all the way, how she goes She's

925
00:36:30,404 --> 00:36:31,934
incredible, isn't she?

926
00:36:31,994 --> 00:36:34,114
Who won the Oscar that year?

927
00:36:35,034 --> 00:36:35,364
Oh, I don't

928
00:36:35,364 --> 00:36:35,414
know.

929
00:36:35,434 --> 00:36:36,154
Exactly.

930
00:36:36,344 --> 00:36:37,694
And Toni Collette should have.

931
00:36:38,444 --> 00:36:40,854
And she didn't even get a
nomination, I believe, for that.

932
00:36:40,854 --> 00:36:40,924
She's

933
00:36:41,174 --> 00:36:41,954
incredible.

934
00:36:42,154 --> 00:36:43,934
Did you ever see United States of Tara?

935
00:36:44,244 --> 00:36:44,604
I did, yeah.

936
00:36:44,604 --> 00:36:45,894
The TV series that she's in?

937
00:36:46,074 --> 00:36:51,574
Her ability to switch
personalities, voice, her entire

938
00:36:51,574 --> 00:36:52,984
facial expression, everything.

939
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:56,629
is incredible and you see that
in this movie a couple of times.

940
00:36:56,729 --> 00:36:57,509
Oh, a lot of times.

941
00:36:57,509 --> 00:36:59,509
She just switches and she's different.

942
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,269
Um, I was trying to dress like her.

943
00:37:01,739 --> 00:37:03,729
I was like, I'm going to
dress for the movie today.

944
00:37:03,729 --> 00:37:05,489
And then I realized, well,
that's just kind of how I

945
00:37:05,489 --> 00:37:06,629
dress all the time, actually.

946
00:37:06,649 --> 00:37:06,859
Yeah.

947
00:37:07,179 --> 00:37:07,569
Yeah.

948
00:37:07,579 --> 00:37:10,279
The way that she's dressed
as mom in this movie.

949
00:37:10,419 --> 00:37:15,349
And Toni Collette, I just got to tell
you that we're sitting right here in the

950
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:21,024
cemetery and this is where All validity
for the Oscars should be buried right here

951
00:37:21,044 --> 00:37:23,134
because she's not even being nominated.

952
00:37:23,134 --> 00:37:26,994
I don't care about no rules about
the, oh, it came out at a certain

953
00:37:26,994 --> 00:37:28,634
time of the year or this and that.

954
00:37:28,634 --> 00:37:29,364
No, no, no, no, no.

955
00:37:29,364 --> 00:37:34,514
She should be an honorary Oscar
member winner for that performance.

956
00:37:35,674 --> 00:37:35,914
But yeah,

957
00:37:35,914 --> 00:37:36,434
go ahead.

958
00:37:36,894 --> 00:37:37,324
That's my

959
00:37:37,364 --> 00:37:39,454
The grief that she's expressing.

960
00:37:39,494 --> 00:37:40,484
I still feel it.

961
00:37:41,354 --> 00:37:44,694
It's cellular level grief.

962
00:37:44,754 --> 00:37:46,834
If I Just pouring out of her body.

963
00:37:47,634 --> 00:37:48,584
Grieving for her daughter.

964
00:37:48,624 --> 00:37:51,354
If I saw her on the street, I
would give Toni Collette a hug.

965
00:37:52,334 --> 00:37:52,884
Like I would.

966
00:37:52,884 --> 00:37:57,456
I would be like, Oh my gosh, I am so
sorry for what you've been through.

967
00:37:57,456 --> 00:37:58,809
You lost your daughter.

968
00:37:58,809 --> 00:37:59,824
I'm so sorry.

969
00:37:59,824 --> 00:38:01,854
Your mother and then your daughter.

970
00:38:01,854 --> 00:38:02,904
But pay attention to that.

971
00:38:03,954 --> 00:38:09,194
That, um, it's on her necklace in
the funeral scene of her mom, uh, a

972
00:38:09,194 --> 00:38:13,024
necklace pro possibly, you know, we
assume was given to her by her mother.

973
00:38:13,064 --> 00:38:13,394
Yeah.

974
00:38:13,514 --> 00:38:17,764
So, that same sigil, that same
symbol, is on the telephone pole.

975
00:38:18,744 --> 00:38:18,984
And,

976
00:38:18,984 --> 00:38:19,314
right?

977
00:38:19,354 --> 00:38:20,514
Let's get into this now.

978
00:38:20,514 --> 00:38:25,444
Let's get into the, to the supernatural,
to the, whatever, is it cult?

979
00:38:25,474 --> 00:38:25,864
What is it?

980
00:38:25,874 --> 00:38:26,644
What's happening here?

981
00:38:26,754 --> 00:38:29,284
I think we're meant to
believe that this is a coven.

982
00:38:29,374 --> 00:38:29,824
Coven.

983
00:38:30,154 --> 00:38:34,414
That her, she discovers her mother was
a part of, and this woman, uh, that

984
00:38:34,414 --> 00:38:36,134
she meets in the grief counseling.

985
00:38:36,634 --> 00:38:40,374
Uh, she goes and she talks
about her mother's life, and

986
00:38:40,454 --> 00:38:42,214
her brother committing suicide.

987
00:38:42,234 --> 00:38:45,904
Um, and she doesn't, she does say,
you have to pay attention, again.

988
00:38:46,424 --> 00:38:52,594
She says in that scene, um, he was
trying to put people in, in him.

989
00:38:52,824 --> 00:38:53,084
Or something like that.

990
00:38:53,084 --> 00:38:53,654
Oh, yeah.

991
00:38:53,704 --> 00:38:54,234
The quote.

992
00:38:54,244 --> 00:38:56,534
She goes, he committed suicide because,
uh, he, they thought he was his brother.

993
00:38:56,534 --> 00:38:57,821
She put voices in him.

994
00:38:57,821 --> 00:38:57,969
Yeah.

995
00:38:58,119 --> 00:38:58,359
Yeah.

996
00:38:58,429 --> 00:39:00,259
She put voices in him or put it in him.

997
00:39:00,269 --> 00:39:00,809
You find out

998
00:39:00,849 --> 00:39:03,809
later what that really was
and what was really going on.

999
00:39:04,919 --> 00:39:06,429
Or at least what a lot of theories are.

1000
00:39:06,429 --> 00:39:11,089
I mean, I think that nothing is laid
out quite so simple in this movie.

1001
00:39:11,089 --> 00:39:15,439
So you have to kind of assume
and piece together the puzzles.

1002
00:39:15,909 --> 00:39:21,399
But basically that this coven I
prefer to call it a cult, okay?

1003
00:39:21,399 --> 00:39:26,309
Because a coven, to me, is
something lovingly pieced together.

1004
00:39:26,309 --> 00:39:26,869
Yes, yes, yes.

1005
00:39:26,889 --> 00:39:29,979
Love and light, and I would rather
keep it that way in my mind.

1006
00:39:30,629 --> 00:39:35,989
But this is definitely, um,
basically a demon summoning cult

1007
00:39:36,499 --> 00:39:37,839
that her mother had been a part of.

1008
00:39:38,489 --> 00:39:40,309
And this woman that
she meets in the movie.

1009
00:39:41,569 --> 00:39:47,299
And what they really are doing is
they're trying to revive or to possess

1010
00:39:47,979 --> 00:39:50,659
someone with the demon of Piedmont.

1011
00:39:50,729 --> 00:39:51,139
Okay.

1012
00:39:51,699 --> 00:39:52,939
Who is a king of hell.

1013
00:39:54,149 --> 00:39:54,349
Oh!

1014
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:58,019
He's one of Lucifer's most loyal demons.

1015
00:39:58,279 --> 00:39:58,529
Okay.

1016
00:39:58,529 --> 00:39:58,549
Of

1017
00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,099
hell.

1018
00:39:59,329 --> 00:40:00,359
This is a real demon.

1019
00:40:00,539 --> 00:40:01,769
This is, this is real.

1020
00:40:01,769 --> 00:40:02,129
Well,

1021
00:40:02,139 --> 00:40:02,619
real.

1022
00:40:02,664 --> 00:40:06,604
Well, yeah, but they, I'm, well, we've had
other movies where they've made up stuff.

1023
00:40:06,734 --> 00:40:06,934
This is

1024
00:40:06,944 --> 00:40:08,469
something that is, is in folklore.

1025
00:40:08,469 --> 00:40:09,354
The Blair Witch was made up.

1026
00:40:09,354 --> 00:40:09,624
Yeah.

1027
00:40:09,674 --> 00:40:10,494
Like, this is

1028
00:40:10,494 --> 00:40:11,414
actually in real.

1029
00:40:11,944 --> 00:40:15,244
Yeah, and that sigil is
from ancient scripts.

1030
00:40:15,514 --> 00:40:20,194
Like, that's why it's a little bit like, I
almost wish it was made up for the movie.

1031
00:40:20,254 --> 00:40:20,614
Yeah.

1032
00:40:21,049 --> 00:40:24,999
When you're like kind of playing
around with symbols and you know,

1033
00:40:24,999 --> 00:40:28,199
you're putting it on the telephone pole
and you're putting it in the movie I

1034
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:29,279
feel like you're asking for trouble.

1035
00:40:29,279 --> 00:40:29,759
Oh, yeah.

1036
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:30,439
Oh, yeah

1037
00:40:33,479 --> 00:40:37,779
Yeah, so You see that symbol throughout
the whole movie it's like etched

1038
00:40:37,779 --> 00:40:42,199
into the attic where the body was
found Skipping around a little bit.

1039
00:40:42,209 --> 00:40:42,429
That's

1040
00:40:42,429 --> 00:40:42,649
fine.

1041
00:40:42,659 --> 00:40:46,099
We don't have to go in order I want
to talk about the movie just overall

1042
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:50,279
cuz yeah, there's all these symbols
add up You To what's really going on.

1043
00:40:51,379 --> 00:40:51,589
So, Heman

1044
00:40:51,809 --> 00:40:56,179
is a, he's a, uh, king of,
one of the kings of Solomon,

1045
00:40:56,199 --> 00:40:57,229
from the book of Solomon.

1046
00:40:57,809 --> 00:41:01,949
And, um, in like the Greek version
of the book that talks about him.

1047
00:41:01,959 --> 00:41:03,879
There's a lot of, like, references of him.

1048
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:07,299
Some mention him with a woman's
face, and some of them don't

1049
00:41:07,529 --> 00:41:08,789
mention him with a face at all.

1050
00:41:09,499 --> 00:41:12,179
But the pictures that we have
of him, he's riding a camel

1051
00:41:12,799 --> 00:41:15,059
and he has three severed heads.

1052
00:41:15,249 --> 00:41:15,629
Okay.

1053
00:41:16,289 --> 00:41:21,359
So it's interesting because I wonder,
you know, is the sacrifice to Piedmon or

1054
00:41:21,429 --> 00:41:25,529
something to do with summoning Piedmon
have to do with three severed heads?

1055
00:41:26,019 --> 00:41:27,919
Because by the end of
the movie, we have three

1056
00:41:28,589 --> 00:41:28,759
severed

1057
00:41:28,759 --> 00:41:29,509
heads, right?

1058
00:41:30,339 --> 00:41:31,809
See, that's what we have you here for.

1059
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:33,569
That kind of insight.

1060
00:41:34,189 --> 00:41:35,339
It's very interesting.

1061
00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:36,679
And you see the triangle?

1062
00:41:36,849 --> 00:41:37,159
Yes.

1063
00:41:37,219 --> 00:41:38,329
the triangle quite a bit.

1064
00:41:38,359 --> 00:41:46,679
It's in the, in the floor of the grandma's
room and, um, when the woman, um, that

1065
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:50,099
she meets, uh, has it in her altar space.

1066
00:41:50,109 --> 00:41:53,499
When you see it, she's knocking on the
outside and she doesn't get inside, but

1067
00:41:53,509 --> 00:41:55,389
you can see the inside of her apartment.

1068
00:41:55,879 --> 00:41:56,839
has the triangle.

1069
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:00,499
That's, uh, representative
of like a conjuring.

1070
00:42:01,009 --> 00:42:06,449
So, uh, there's a lot of like little
references, those, those words etched

1071
00:42:06,449 --> 00:42:09,339
into the wall behind Charlie's bed.

1072
00:42:09,619 --> 00:42:11,389
And she even makes that
in the miniatures, right?

1073
00:42:11,399 --> 00:42:11,419
Yeah.

1074
00:42:11,429 --> 00:42:16,019
She's even like writing that tiny
little, so you have the word satiny.

1075
00:42:16,509 --> 00:42:19,819
Which is, uh, basically a
summoning word for necromancy,

1076
00:42:19,849 --> 00:42:21,319
like, bringing back to life.

1077
00:42:21,339 --> 00:42:21,709
Okay.

1078
00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:27,679
Um, these are words that, uh,
you also hear the woman shouting

1079
00:42:27,689 --> 00:42:29,249
at Peter when he's at school.

1080
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:31,909
And she's, like, doing that spell on him.

1081
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:38,099
She's dispelling his spirit from his body
to make way for Piedmon to To use his

1082
00:42:38,099 --> 00:42:43,869
body, but it's believed a lot of people
watching this movie said that Charlie,

1083
00:42:44,729 --> 00:42:49,529
the girl, was actually, uh, Piedmont.

1084
00:42:49,919 --> 00:42:54,729
Like, she was born with Piedmont's
spirit, um, from this coven, so the

1085
00:42:54,739 --> 00:42:59,959
mom had grabbed hold of her, got her
claws in her, as, um, Annie says in

1086
00:42:59,959 --> 00:43:03,554
that, uh, One scene, so she's like,
my mom had got her claws in Charlie.

1087
00:43:03,554 --> 00:43:06,464
She didn't get my son, because
they were estranged at the time.

1088
00:43:06,484 --> 00:43:06,554
Uh

1089
00:43:06,554 --> 00:43:06,834
huh.

1090
00:43:07,344 --> 00:43:11,914
And I think the grandma, Annie's
mother, was trying to possess her son,

1091
00:43:12,994 --> 00:43:16,894
and that's why he committed suicide,
from trying to put voices in her head.

1092
00:43:16,894 --> 00:43:17,834
Inside of him.

1093
00:43:18,264 --> 00:43:19,294
That's, that's an amazing

1094
00:43:19,414 --> 00:43:24,889
So this cult was actually, you know,
just trying to get this demon, They're

1095
00:43:24,889 --> 00:43:29,389
all a cult of this demon, Piedmon, and
they're trying to get him, uh, a body.

1096
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:29,729
Yeah.

1097
00:43:29,959 --> 00:43:31,049
But he needs a male body.

1098
00:43:31,179 --> 00:43:31,449
A vessel.

1099
00:43:31,809 --> 00:43:32,599
He needs a vessel.

1100
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:33,619
He needs to be male.

1101
00:43:33,859 --> 00:43:35,539
Charlie ended up being born a female.

1102
00:43:36,029 --> 00:43:39,009
So you see that scene in the miniatures
where she's trying to feed the baby.

1103
00:43:39,009 --> 00:43:41,079
You see the mom, like, trying
to breastfeed the baby.

1104
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:42,124
Yes, yes.

1105
00:43:42,214 --> 00:43:42,434
She's

1106
00:43:42,434 --> 00:43:48,304
like trying to, she was trying to
do all of the rituals and summoning

1107
00:43:48,624 --> 00:43:52,174
spells and whatever you want to
call it to, uh, to get the baby

1108
00:43:52,174 --> 00:43:54,644
possessed with Piedmon's spirit.

1109
00:43:54,684 --> 00:43:56,654
So he, it was successful with Charlie.

1110
00:43:56,874 --> 00:43:58,924
Charlie was Piedmon.

1111
00:44:00,964 --> 00:44:06,184
And then when she died, which
was actually planned, hence the

1112
00:44:06,944 --> 00:44:08,504
sigil on the telephone pole.

1113
00:44:08,514 --> 00:44:08,934
Yeah, absolutely.

1114
00:44:08,944 --> 00:44:13,344
It was like made to happen so that the
spirit would be free to then embody Peter.

1115
00:44:13,434 --> 00:44:16,834
So the whole thing was getting
Peter ready for him to be possessed.

1116
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:17,629
with this demon.

1117
00:44:18,789 --> 00:44:19,489
Wow.

1118
00:44:19,939 --> 00:44:20,559
There you go.

1119
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:21,359
Look at this.

1120
00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:23,369
Watch the movie first before
you listen to all that.

1121
00:44:23,509 --> 00:44:25,799
Yeah, because I just
spoiled it all for you.

1122
00:44:25,799 --> 00:44:27,139
But yeah,

1123
00:44:27,999 --> 00:44:28,449
interesting, right?

1124
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:29,379
It's very interesting.

1125
00:44:29,389 --> 00:44:35,249
And you've got, you mentioned, uh, the
lady that she meets at the grocery store.

1126
00:44:35,759 --> 00:44:35,879
Yes.

1127
00:44:36,249 --> 00:44:37,499
Now this, this is when,

1128
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:38,099
yes,

1129
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:40,499
this movie, she's fantastic too.

1130
00:44:41,069 --> 00:44:41,389
She is.

1131
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,009
This movie just keeps
delving off into chaos.

1132
00:44:44,019 --> 00:44:47,559
Like, yeah, further, further, further
into the darkest holes you can go.

1133
00:44:48,009 --> 00:44:51,949
And she meets this lady, and she says
something about a seance, basically,

1134
00:44:51,979 --> 00:44:53,979
and Tony Collette, Annie, laughs off.

1135
00:44:53,979 --> 00:44:54,289
She's like, you can

1136
00:44:54,289 --> 00:44:55,879
see your daughter again.

1137
00:44:55,899 --> 00:44:57,159
I saw my grandson.

1138
00:44:57,429 --> 00:45:01,019
She thought she met her just like grief
counseling, like this grief support group.

1139
00:45:01,529 --> 00:45:04,039
Um, when actually she wasn't
part of that group at all.

1140
00:45:04,579 --> 00:45:08,139
She just like showed up, and got
her little claws into Annie, and

1141
00:45:08,139 --> 00:45:09,679
was like, come on, you can do this.

1142
00:45:09,899 --> 00:45:10,739
You can do this with me.

1143
00:45:10,749 --> 00:45:14,369
I know it sounds crazy, but you can
summon spirits, and I went to this

1144
00:45:14,379 --> 00:45:15,699
seance, and it changed my life.

1145
00:45:15,849 --> 00:45:21,769
And, um, I will say, just side note on
that, um, I do believe in mediumship.

1146
00:45:21,889 --> 00:45:23,629
I do believe in ethical mediumship.

1147
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:30,979
So anybody that's, uh, you know, trying
to, um, play upon your grief or, uh,

1148
00:45:31,309 --> 00:45:37,449
you know, using your grief for, uh, For
earning money, or, um, you know, just

1149
00:45:37,449 --> 00:45:41,219
be real cautious and careful with people
who claim to be a medium, or who can do

1150
00:45:41,219 --> 00:45:43,569
a seance, and contact your loved ones.

1151
00:45:43,959 --> 00:45:46,919
First of all, make sure it's
consensual, and that they're ethical

1152
00:45:46,919 --> 00:45:50,619
about it, and, um, that's all I have
to say about that part of the movie.

1153
00:45:50,829 --> 00:45:50,909
None of this

1154
00:45:50,909 --> 00:45:51,839
Miss, this Miss Cleo stuff.

1155
00:45:51,859 --> 00:45:52,639
Remember Miss Cleo?

1156
00:45:52,979 --> 00:45:55,669
She made a whole bunch of money,
and then came out as a fraud, and

1157
00:45:55,669 --> 00:45:56,939
then made a whole bunch more money.

1158
00:45:56,939 --> 00:45:57,494
Yeah.

1159
00:45:57,674 --> 00:45:58,474
Yeah, yeah.

1160
00:45:58,554 --> 00:45:59,674
Yeah, don't be there are

1161
00:45:59,674 --> 00:46:02,714
certain mediums I think that,
um, and I don't even mind mediums

1162
00:46:03,244 --> 00:46:04,514
charging for their services.

1163
00:46:04,554 --> 00:46:07,694
I just think that people need
to be cautious about, you know,

1164
00:46:07,814 --> 00:46:11,804
trust your instinct when you meet
someone who's like, I can contact

1165
00:46:11,804 --> 00:46:13,414
your loved ones from beyond and,

1166
00:46:13,414 --> 00:46:14,214
you know.

1167
00:46:14,214 --> 00:46:14,764
1995!

1168
00:46:14,804 --> 00:46:15,404
One time payment!

1169
00:46:16,024 --> 00:46:16,284
Yeah.

1170
00:46:16,314 --> 00:46:17,194
Don't fall for that?

1171
00:46:18,174 --> 00:46:18,454
No.

1172
00:46:18,554 --> 00:46:21,694
Just, you know, you can feel it when
it's like, I feel good about this

1173
00:46:21,694 --> 00:46:23,794
person or I feel kind of like, Ew.

1174
00:46:24,234 --> 00:46:24,554
Ew.

1175
00:46:25,354 --> 00:46:25,664
Yeah.

1176
00:46:25,664 --> 00:46:27,034
So this woman kind of preyed upon her.

1177
00:46:27,044 --> 00:46:27,094
She did.

1178
00:46:27,094 --> 00:46:30,184
Because she's like, You're
grieving for your daughter.

1179
00:46:30,184 --> 00:46:31,334
You can talk to her again.

1180
00:46:31,334 --> 00:46:31,864
I promise.

1181
00:46:31,874 --> 00:46:33,144
I talked to my grandson.

1182
00:46:33,144 --> 00:46:33,824
He was there.

1183
00:46:34,234 --> 00:46:35,384
It was PM on the whole time.

1184
00:46:35,414 --> 00:46:35,944
Wow.

1185
00:46:36,594 --> 00:46:38,254
And then we get the seance scene.

1186
00:46:38,394 --> 00:46:38,834
Yeah.

1187
00:46:39,934 --> 00:46:42,454
With Annie, Charlie, the dad.

1188
00:46:42,554 --> 00:46:42,884
Yeah.

1189
00:46:42,884 --> 00:46:43,804
She brings them all in.

1190
00:46:43,824 --> 00:46:44,414
She's like, Well, I mean,

1191
00:46:44,414 --> 00:46:44,844
Peter.

1192
00:46:44,894 --> 00:46:45,694
Peter the son, I guess.

1193
00:46:45,694 --> 00:46:45,944
Peter,

1194
00:46:45,944 --> 00:46:46,184
yeah.

1195
00:46:46,184 --> 00:46:46,304
There's

1196
00:46:47,339 --> 00:46:48,389
Yeah, yeah.

1197
00:46:48,389 --> 00:46:49,909
This is, in this scene,

1198
00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:51,989
it is, and

1199
00:46:51,989 --> 00:46:54,799
it's one of those, once
again, it drags on.

1200
00:46:54,819 --> 00:46:56,379
It's like, you're like, Oh my gosh, a lot

1201
00:46:56,379 --> 00:47:00,219
of like long pauses and silences
where you're like, what is happening?

1202
00:47:00,229 --> 00:47:01,149
What's going to happen?

1203
00:47:01,789 --> 00:47:04,429
And it just builds the intensity.

1204
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:05,709
They really.

1205
00:47:06,584 --> 00:47:11,044
Ari Aster really, we're like
a, we're like a catch toy.

1206
00:47:11,054 --> 00:47:12,354
He's out there just doing this with us.

1207
00:47:12,684 --> 00:47:13,374
Like that's what it is.

1208
00:47:13,744 --> 00:47:17,304
The entire movie we're getting
beat up on, knowing that he can

1209
00:47:17,304 --> 00:47:21,044
go in for the kill at any minute,
but it just, it's just relentless.

1210
00:47:21,964 --> 00:47:25,454
And that scene ends up kind of like it
builds up and builds up and builds up.

1211
00:47:26,064 --> 00:47:28,864
And when Charlie's voice
comes out of her mouth.

1212
00:47:29,554 --> 00:47:30,134
Oh, that's wild.

1213
00:47:30,144 --> 00:47:30,344
That's

1214
00:47:30,344 --> 00:47:32,194
when I'm, I'm talking Oscar worthy.

1215
00:47:32,234 --> 00:47:32,394
Oh.

1216
00:47:32,424 --> 00:47:36,614
Because she changes from the
mom, from Annie, into Charlie.

1217
00:47:36,614 --> 00:47:37,394
Charlie, right there.

1218
00:47:37,604 --> 00:47:39,194
And her voice that comes out of her mouth.

1219
00:47:39,314 --> 00:47:40,484
Oh, it's crazy.

1220
00:47:40,884 --> 00:47:42,404
But then it kind of falls flat, right?

1221
00:47:42,514 --> 00:47:42,754
Yeah.

1222
00:47:42,754 --> 00:47:44,304
It doesn't really give you the.

1223
00:47:44,614 --> 00:47:44,894
Yeah.

1224
00:47:44,944 --> 00:47:47,584
Horror like thing you're waiting for.

1225
00:47:48,609 --> 00:47:49,679
Because it kind of teases you.

1226
00:47:49,779 --> 00:47:50,379
It does.

1227
00:47:50,419 --> 00:47:50,939
Till later.

1228
00:47:52,059 --> 00:47:52,749
What happens later?

1229
00:47:53,749 --> 00:47:58,289
Oh my gosh, just when it really
hits the fan, like when the climax

1230
00:47:58,289 --> 00:48:04,479
of the movie starts hitting, all I
want to say is Don't be fooled by

1231
00:48:04,479 --> 00:48:06,729
the action happening in the scene.

1232
00:48:07,989 --> 00:48:10,059
Make sure you look around in the shadows.

1233
00:48:10,059 --> 00:48:10,379
Pay

1234
00:48:10,379 --> 00:48:10,699
attention

1235
00:48:10,699 --> 00:48:16,149
to what's going on in the dark because
there's so much going on that If

1236
00:48:16,149 --> 00:48:19,269
you were just watching the action,
you'd be like, this is so boring.

1237
00:48:20,419 --> 00:48:22,779
Peter is taking forever to get out of bed.

1238
00:48:22,859 --> 00:48:23,139
Yep.

1239
00:48:24,109 --> 00:48:24,949
That scene, right?

1240
00:48:25,229 --> 00:48:26,869
Where he's like, mom?

1241
00:48:27,129 --> 00:48:31,469
This is the entire end, the entire
climax, the, the, the pinnacle

1242
00:48:31,469 --> 00:48:33,829
here basically was a stage play.

1243
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:38,719
It's, it's everything has got to
be perfect or that doesn't happen.

1244
00:48:38,849 --> 00:48:41,459
The entire scene can't happen, right?

1245
00:48:41,469 --> 00:48:45,529
Like that's, it had to have been
almost, well, it definitely was.

1246
00:48:45,529 --> 00:48:46,069
It was definitely.

1247
00:48:46,584 --> 00:48:47,714
Choreograph, we'll call it.

1248
00:48:47,764 --> 00:48:48,174
Yeah.

1249
00:48:48,244 --> 00:48:48,374
Yeah.

1250
00:48:48,404 --> 00:48:48,954
Um.

1251
00:48:49,769 --> 00:48:50,759
Because everything had to line up.

1252
00:48:50,759 --> 00:48:51,269
It's fluid, yeah.

1253
00:48:51,269 --> 00:48:51,599
It did.

1254
00:48:51,669 --> 00:48:56,909
It had to line up perfectly, or
else none of that could happen.

1255
00:48:57,739 --> 00:48:58,679
Walk us through that scene.

1256
00:49:00,209 --> 00:49:00,579
Well,

1257
00:49:02,689 --> 00:49:07,439
basically Annie, now
possessed, with Piedmon, okay?

1258
00:49:09,569 --> 00:49:10,419
Dad's dead.

1259
00:49:11,029 --> 00:49:11,469
Oh yeah.

1260
00:49:11,989 --> 00:49:16,169
In a horrific blaze of fire
that Annie was trying to avoid.

1261
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:21,019
She was trying to say like, you gotta
do this, I can't do it, but I, she

1262
00:49:21,019 --> 00:49:25,019
was willing to sacrifice her own life
to destroy the journal, to get, you

1263
00:49:25,019 --> 00:49:27,499
know, to end this whole nightmare.

1264
00:49:28,099 --> 00:49:30,849
But when she threw it in the
fire herself, it wasn't her that

1265
00:49:30,849 --> 00:49:32,149
lit on fire, it was her husband.

1266
00:49:32,469 --> 00:49:32,489
Yeah.

1267
00:49:32,539 --> 00:49:32,809
Right.

1268
00:49:32,819 --> 00:49:35,479
And he lights up, he's, he's gone.

1269
00:49:36,879 --> 00:49:41,259
And Peter's just waking up
from his Incident at school,

1270
00:49:41,259 --> 00:49:43,819
and he's like looking for her.

1271
00:49:44,109 --> 00:49:46,389
She's already there in the room

1272
00:49:47,129 --> 00:49:50,769
And it's just there's all kinds of whole

1273
00:49:50,769 --> 00:49:52,019
chase happening.

1274
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:55,749
He runs into the attic She's
banging her head on the attic

1275
00:49:55,749 --> 00:49:57,529
door that part freaked me out.

1276
00:49:57,919 --> 00:50:02,474
I was like Like that was when I started
watching through my fingers By that point

1277
00:50:02,624 --> 00:50:06,954
when she's like trying to get into the
attic and some people asked online they

1278
00:50:06,954 --> 00:50:10,574
were like well how does she get into
the attic because he closes the door but

1279
00:50:10,584 --> 00:50:17,544
there's people in the attic there's people
from the cult already waiting already in

1280
00:50:17,544 --> 00:50:22,794
the attic and so when he turns around when
he finds the body missing and he turns

1281
00:50:22,794 --> 00:50:25,854
around uh she's already up there with him

1282
00:50:26,514 --> 00:50:35,419
just intense it's it's scary it's
It's, so horror movies don't really

1283
00:50:35,749 --> 00:50:37,329
scare too many people out there.

1284
00:50:37,389 --> 00:50:40,019
There's a lot of people who can
really handle them and watch them

1285
00:50:40,049 --> 00:50:43,679
and love them because they can see
through it and they're like, I get it.

1286
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:46,059
I, this isn't that, no, not this one.

1287
00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:46,239
No.

1288
00:50:46,289 --> 00:50:48,199
Like this is one that will stick with you.

1289
00:50:48,229 --> 00:50:49,249
It will scar you.

1290
00:50:49,739 --> 00:50:49,979
Yeah.

1291
00:50:49,979 --> 00:50:50,519
A morning.

1292
00:50:50,569 --> 00:50:52,509
It will scar you out there
if you watch this movie.

1293
00:50:53,569 --> 00:50:53,809
Yeah.

1294
00:50:53,809 --> 00:50:55,789
I think it's because it
runs through a family.

1295
00:50:56,149 --> 00:50:56,459
Yes.

1296
00:50:56,479 --> 00:50:59,419
And no one, again, like most
of our movies, a lot of our

1297
00:50:59,419 --> 00:51:02,344
movies in this series, we've
said, There's no happy ending.

1298
00:51:03,004 --> 00:51:07,184
You don't see them like make it out alive
or you don't see Peter like, you know, in

1299
00:51:07,184 --> 00:51:11,664
those old movies when it was like Peter's
the lone survivor and someone's putting

1300
00:51:11,664 --> 00:51:16,474
a blanket around him and he's getting
put in an ambulance and everybody's

1301
00:51:16,474 --> 00:51:18,224
like, it's okay, it's gonna be all right.

1302
00:51:18,224 --> 00:51:19,544
This is what you want to happen.

1303
00:51:19,594 --> 00:51:20,604
Yeah, it does not happen.

1304
00:51:20,604 --> 00:51:20,854
The good

1305
00:51:20,854 --> 00:51:21,914
old days of horror movies.

1306
00:51:21,914 --> 00:51:24,474
They tie things up with
neat bloody bow, right?

1307
00:51:24,474 --> 00:51:24,874
Basically

1308
00:51:24,874 --> 00:51:26,404
the cult wins in this one.

1309
00:51:26,424 --> 00:51:30,174
I mean, this is, they, they achieve
what they set out to achieve, which

1310
00:51:30,174 --> 00:51:34,684
was to get Pee on a body to inhabit.

1311
00:51:34,744 --> 00:51:36,394
And, and that's what happens.

1312
00:51:36,394 --> 00:51:36,574
And it

1313
00:51:36,574 --> 00:51:39,544
leaves it kind of open like you're,
you, I mean, we got, we're sitting

1314
00:51:39,544 --> 00:51:42,394
here interpreting the movie and
thi and this movie has been out

1315
00:51:42,394 --> 00:51:45,124
for a while and people were still
interpreting different parts of it.

1316
00:51:45,124 --> 00:51:45,184
Yeah.

1317
00:51:45,184 --> 00:51:47,974
And picking out little pieces and
saying, oh, well wait a minute.

1318
00:51:48,094 --> 00:51:49,924
I mean, you, you pulled
out the three heads thing.

1319
00:51:49,954 --> 00:51:50,824
Like that's amazing.

1320
00:51:51,064 --> 00:51:51,124
Yeah.

1321
00:51:51,124 --> 00:51:55,464
So the grandma, um,
yeah, Charlie, uh, and.

1322
00:51:56,799 --> 00:51:58,539
Annie, eventually.

1323
00:51:58,539 --> 00:51:58,859
Yep.

1324
00:51:58,989 --> 00:51:59,799
Beheads herself.

1325
00:51:59,809 --> 00:52:00,139
Yep.

1326
00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:04,659
And I think they needed the three
heads in order to conduct the ritual.

1327
00:52:04,659 --> 00:52:06,535
To get Pym on there.

1328
00:52:06,535 --> 00:52:06,778
Okay.

1329
00:52:06,778 --> 00:52:09,695
It had to be like, their payment
for, um, conjuring him and

1330
00:52:09,695 --> 00:52:11,396
having him come back in a body.

1331
00:52:11,396 --> 00:52:12,369
And then it's, and

1332
00:52:12,369 --> 00:52:17,684
so the movie ends and And we're left at
home still questioning our sanity even

1333
00:52:17,684 --> 00:52:19,524
more than I know when we started, right?

1334
00:52:19,524 --> 00:52:19,994
Like that's

1335
00:52:22,184 --> 00:52:23,274
Yeah, see we're sitting here now.

1336
00:52:23,274 --> 00:52:29,894
I'm like Yeah, i'm like what did we
see I mean the movie's incredible

1337
00:52:30,134 --> 00:52:33,264
Yeah, this is the only one that
after the end all of us I watched

1338
00:52:33,304 --> 00:52:34,374
all of them with my husband.

1339
00:52:34,374 --> 00:52:38,634
We watched them together and by the end
of all of them even like suspiria Yeah,

1340
00:52:38,944 --> 00:52:43,944
which was real gory at the end there
I turned the TV off, and I was like,

1341
00:52:44,034 --> 00:52:45,324
Alright, time to go get ready for bed.

1342
00:52:45,324 --> 00:52:46,534
Yeah, I can go, I can sleep

1343
00:52:46,564 --> 00:52:47,504
comfortable at night, yeah.

1344
00:52:47,514 --> 00:52:50,854
This was the only one that I was
like, Matt said, uh, Oh, I've

1345
00:52:50,854 --> 00:52:52,824
already gotten ready for bed, so
I'm just gonna head up to bed.

1346
00:52:52,824 --> 00:52:55,152
And I was like, You're
gonna leave me alone?

1347
00:52:55,152 --> 00:52:55,466
You're like,

1348
00:52:55,466 --> 00:52:57,394
hang on, turn the lights on, turn
the lights on, keep the lights on.

1349
00:52:57,394 --> 00:52:57,414
I

1350
00:52:57,814 --> 00:53:01,154
think you should just come with me,
and we'll go, and I'll get ready

1351
00:53:01,154 --> 00:53:03,924
for bed, and you'll stand there next
to me while I get ready for bed.

1352
00:53:03,954 --> 00:53:06,614
And then we'll go upstairs
together, in the dark.

1353
00:53:07,374 --> 00:53:07,604
Together.

1354
00:53:07,674 --> 00:53:07,974
Yes,

1355
00:53:08,234 --> 00:53:08,654
yes.

1356
00:53:08,704 --> 00:53:09,254
That's good, right?

1357
00:53:09,254 --> 00:53:09,594
Yeah.

1358
00:53:09,594 --> 00:53:09,904
Yeah.

1359
00:53:11,069 --> 00:53:12,919
This movie, it, it still bothers me now.

1360
00:53:13,019 --> 00:53:17,039
Like, it's, what are your final thoughts?

1361
00:53:17,189 --> 00:53:18,969
What, do you have any
more points you gotta hit?

1362
00:53:18,969 --> 00:53:20,279
I know we could talk about it forever.

1363
00:53:20,289 --> 00:53:20,679
We could.

1364
00:53:20,809 --> 00:53:21,189
Yeah.

1365
00:53:21,289 --> 00:53:21,599
I know.

1366
00:53:22,669 --> 00:53:25,879
Um, I do want to point out, I
still want to claim that this

1367
00:53:25,889 --> 00:53:27,439
isn't technically a witch movie.

1368
00:53:27,449 --> 00:53:27,969
Yes.

1369
00:53:28,299 --> 00:53:30,609
I would like to say that because
I would like to say that.

1370
00:53:31,309 --> 00:53:36,409
This group of people, even though they're
conducting rituals and spells, um, the way

1371
00:53:36,409 --> 00:53:42,609
that I like to view and portray a witch,
or a pagan, or, uh, someone who, um,

1372
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:48,819
maybe operates in a spirituality closer
to mine, uh, this would be more like a

1373
00:53:48,839 --> 00:53:51,479
cult than it would be a coven of witches.

1374
00:53:51,729 --> 00:53:56,479
So That would be my final thought, is
maybe take that part loosely and enjoy the

1375
00:53:56,479 --> 00:53:57,879
movie for the entertainment that it is.

1376
00:53:58,149 --> 00:53:58,879
Absolutely.

1377
00:53:58,909 --> 00:54:02,249
The miserable entertainment
that it is, right?

1378
00:54:02,699 --> 00:54:08,609
My final thought on this movie is
Tony Collette, damn it, an Oscar.

1379
00:54:08,899 --> 00:54:10,149
Get her one now.

1380
00:54:10,489 --> 00:54:10,759
Yep.

1381
00:54:10,819 --> 00:54:11,169
That's it.

1382
00:54:11,179 --> 00:54:12,009
That's all I got to say about it.

1383
00:54:12,009 --> 00:54:12,299
I'll present

1384
00:54:12,299 --> 00:54:12,969
it to her myself.

1385
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:14,239
You know what though?

1386
00:54:14,249 --> 00:54:15,259
This is, yeah, right?

1387
00:54:15,259 --> 00:54:16,129
We'll get it.

1388
00:54:16,354 --> 00:54:17,434
We will make an Oscar.

1389
00:54:17,914 --> 00:54:18,504
We'll bring it to her.

1390
00:54:18,624 --> 00:54:19,624
And we'll get Toni Collette.

1391
00:54:19,634 --> 00:54:19,804
Okay,

1392
00:54:19,804 --> 00:54:20,234
Toni.

1393
00:54:20,944 --> 00:54:21,444
Reach out.

1394
00:54:21,904 --> 00:54:22,874
We got you, girl.

1395
00:54:23,304 --> 00:54:26,864
We might as well wrap this whole
thing up because this is the end.

1396
00:54:26,874 --> 00:54:30,554
This is the end of the project,
but maybe it's just the end of

1397
00:54:30,554 --> 00:54:31,704
season one because I looked.

1398
00:54:31,704 --> 00:54:31,974
I looked.

1399
00:54:32,104 --> 00:54:38,164
And I saw that they had 167
more witch movies on IMDb.

1400
00:54:38,164 --> 00:54:39,674
Are you ready to go through some more?

1401
00:54:40,094 --> 00:54:44,824
Um, maybe not 167, but for sure,
let's, let's work through that list.

1402
00:54:45,234 --> 00:54:46,394
We can get season two.

1403
00:54:47,424 --> 00:54:48,374
Maybe it'll be something different.

1404
00:54:48,824 --> 00:54:49,614
Maybe it'll be something different.

1405
00:54:49,614 --> 00:54:53,934
I mean, this first season, it
was only going to be a, well,

1406
00:54:54,054 --> 00:54:56,804
at first it was a pipe dream and
then it turned into real stuff.

1407
00:54:56,804 --> 00:54:57,664
And then we started watching movies.

1408
00:54:58,204 --> 00:55:01,124
And then we ended up with,
with Robin Lively herself.

1409
00:55:01,124 --> 00:55:05,994
We had Ryan Bartley from, uh,
her anime queen out there from,

1410
00:55:06,444 --> 00:55:07,804
uh, different movies and stuff.

1411
00:55:07,834 --> 00:55:09,464
And then we're here.

1412
00:55:09,814 --> 00:55:10,634
This is our guest.

1413
00:55:10,634 --> 00:55:13,744
Our final guest is the own location set.

1414
00:55:14,304 --> 00:55:15,874
Like we took this thing and ran with it.

1415
00:55:17,484 --> 00:55:17,974
Now

1416
00:55:18,704 --> 00:55:19,304
it's been a blast.

1417
00:55:19,364 --> 00:55:19,764
I want to

1418
00:55:19,764 --> 00:55:22,424
hear what other people out there got to
say and what they want to see us do next.

1419
00:55:22,454 --> 00:55:29,679
Because I'm thinking, I don't know,
maybe we can do some gory movies, you

1420
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:34,729
know, the kinds I like, where the, they
have a mask on and they got a knife

1421
00:55:34,729 --> 00:55:36,369
and you know who it is and that's it.

1422
00:55:37,029 --> 00:55:41,999
Yeah, and I will, I will agree with you on
the next time we do a live podcast event.

1423
00:55:42,059 --> 00:55:42,439
Yes.

1424
00:55:43,129 --> 00:55:45,739
Let's do adults only and we'll
do one of the hardcore ones.

1425
00:55:46,259 --> 00:55:46,899
Arc the Clown.

1426
00:55:46,899 --> 00:55:47,489
Autopsy of Jane Doe.

1427
00:55:47,499 --> 00:55:48,609
The Terrifiers and stuff.

1428
00:55:48,619 --> 00:55:49,519
Oh, oh, okay.

1429
00:55:49,809 --> 00:55:51,149
We'll do the Autopsy of Jane Doe.

1430
00:55:52,089 --> 00:55:56,309
I owe you that, but I feel like
we need a good group of adults.

1431
00:55:56,529 --> 00:55:56,899
Yes.

1432
00:55:57,639 --> 00:56:01,109
That are into that kind of thing,
they can really enjoy it with us.

1433
00:56:01,649 --> 00:56:02,029
I'm down.

1434
00:56:02,029 --> 00:56:02,579
I think that would be a blast.

1435
00:56:02,759 --> 00:56:03,209
I'm down.

1436
00:56:03,219 --> 00:56:04,569
We should screen it in a cemetery.

1437
00:56:04,569 --> 00:56:05,199
How about that?

1438
00:56:05,489 --> 00:56:05,689
Yeah.

1439
00:56:05,849 --> 00:56:06,679
Maybe in a morgue.

1440
00:56:07,279 --> 00:56:07,939
Ooh.

1441
00:56:08,459 --> 00:56:09,719
Anybody out there know a morgue?

1442
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,749
We can film the next
live podcast taping in.

1443
00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:12,489
I'd love to do that.

1444
00:56:12,509 --> 00:56:12,889
That'd be fun.

1445
00:56:12,889 --> 00:56:12,999
Yeah,

1446
00:56:12,999 --> 00:56:13,459
reach out.

1447
00:56:13,519 --> 00:56:13,919
Yeah, reach

1448
00:56:13,919 --> 00:56:14,559
out to us.

1449
00:56:14,959 --> 00:56:15,939
Until the end, that's us.

1450
00:56:15,969 --> 00:56:16,479
That's it.