The Witch Movie Project Ep 7 - 'Practical Magic' (1998) vs 'The Witches Of Eastwick' (1987)

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Ah!

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Welcome to my lair.

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You are now in the witch's cauldron and
we are here to talk about witches today.

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Yes, this is The Witch
Movie Project, right?

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Courtney, we're still doing this.

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This has been so much fun, has it not?

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It's been a blast.

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Like we've had

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time.

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We've had some crazy stuff happen during
the taping of this, during the recordings,

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all the way from getting stars of the
movie themselves to come on the show.

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Pure magic.

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We

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Pure magic.

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it and it just came into our lives.

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Practical magic.

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Wait a minute.

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I'll just spoil the movie for today,
but they already read the title.

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They see this, they know, and they
knew if they knew you, people out

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there had to know that you were
going to pick this movie, right?

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I mean, I did host a party last year
practical magic movie party for anybody

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who said they hadn't seen the movie before
and I was like, you're coming to my house,

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and we're doing midnight margaritas.

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I love it.

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And you've also, you also host a podcast.

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that you stole the name from the movie.

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yeah, it's

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Okay.

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Okay.

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inspired.

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You didn't, you didn't steal it.

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It's an homage, I believe
is what we would call that.

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You got an homage to the movie
Practical Magic with your podcast

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Practically Magic, which is found
right here on Ride the Wave Media.

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Plugged.

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Cheap plug.

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I had to do that, you know, so.

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Alright,

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it.

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You deserve all of it.

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but let me hear about this, this,
uh, this midnight margarita party.

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What, what was this like?

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Um, pretty lame, actually.

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Sandra Bullock didn't show up?

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It was a lot more fun in the movie.

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Oh,

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I got a couple of friends over.

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We watched the movie.

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I got to, uh, you know, share
my, um, my love for the movie.

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And, um, that was good enough.

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I think it's just fun to get
together with your friends.

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well listen, let's talk about the party
that is not gonna be lame, for sure,

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that's coming up, that's coming up.

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Centered around the Witch Movie

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better.

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Yeah, right.

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Centered around the Witch Movie Project.

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It's the live podcast
taping and movie screening.

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Plus the huge contest
now, the costume contest.

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The Witch Movie Project.

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Live Cake Parties.

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Gonna crush it with, I can't wait
to see what Karla sets up in there.

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are amazing.

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I was

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Ooh!

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other day about some of the birthday
parties I've seen her put together.

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I mean, it, it rivals
those Kardashian parties

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It does, and you know, and you know what?

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And you know what?

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Karla loves Halloween.

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So I can't wait to see what
she comes down there and tears

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it up with live cake parties.

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And don't forget, we got Stacey
Millhorn out there at Pure Sweat

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and Float Studios in South Jordan.

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If you haven't done that yet, you
guys gotta go out there and get

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a float, cause it's incredible.

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It's incredible.

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Yeah.

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Friend of mine just did the
sauna when she was sick.

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She had all kinds of going on
and then she went into the sauna.

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She's like, I feel a ton better.

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Cleared her up, huh?

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I did the same thing.

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It's wild.

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It's, it's incredible.

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But right now, get cozy, get some,
uh, tequila, margaritas ready,

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if you want to do that with us.

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But right now we're going to get into
Practical Magic, the 1998 witchy drama

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that's all about spells, sisterhood,
and Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman

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looking like a dream team, right?

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Like they do.

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take their picture to my, uh, hairdresser.

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that movie, and I'm like, can you cut it?

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Can you style it?

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Can you do it exactly like that?

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I grew my hair out because
of that movie of them.

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you had the hairstyle of Nicole
Kidman, or which one, which character

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did you have the hairstyle of?

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Either.

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I mean, they're both just, they're
like the Rachel from Friends, right?

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Of the, of the witch community, if

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I love it now.

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I love it.

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So this movie though, is also,
it's directed by Griffin Dunn,

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and it's based on a mo, it's
based on a novel by Alice Hoffman.

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Uh, it's got, it's got a great
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healthy sprinkle of supernatural
antics, really, because you get to

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see this as the movie progresses.

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Is this the witch movie of
all witch movies, Courtney?

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I gotta ask you that.

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for sure, hands down.

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Okay.

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So I know we've been going through
a lot of different witch movies.

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We've done some family friendly ones.

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We've done a lot of horror genre, which
I love, you know, I love, there's no

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contest for me that if you were to ask
anyone, anyone, Who's like, what movie

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really, truly depicts magic in the way
that understand it, the way magical

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people understand it, it's this movie.

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Really?

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did read the book years ago, by the way.

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It's very different.

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It's a very different feel.

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is a little more whimsical, the movie.

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It kind of centers around
Sally and, um, and Jilly.

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But, uh, the book centers
more around Sally's story.

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Girls, they're older in
the book and it's darker.

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It's a little slower.

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It's a little more kind
of a different vibe.

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Does it still have that, uh,
that complex feel of, is this a

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kid's thing or an adult thing?

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Does it still have that balance?

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Like, weird balance?

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how the critics were
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And when the movie came out, I mean,
the book is just straight up adults.

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You know, kind of a dark, magical sort
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out, people were like, I'm so confused.

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Is this a kid's movie?

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Cause it's too adult to be a kid's movie.

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And it's too kid to be an adult movie.

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I, it wasn't like super great when it
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it has become like a cult classic.

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I mean, you can't like throw a
rock in Halloween season without

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somebody mentioning practical magic,

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Now, you gotta point out also here that
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1998, is way different than 2024 right
now, because to me, this is a kids movie.

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Like, I watch it and sure, there's
language in there, but my kids are

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out there saying whatever already.

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So,

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my kids have all seen it.

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Watch

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bother me.

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Like,

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year.

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yeah, it doesn't bother me,
but to me, it is a kids movie.

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Let's call it a family movie.

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I think it's more of a family movie
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it does, it covers all of it.

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It's got the balance.

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Let's talk about the plot.

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It's Sally, Jilly, Owens.

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They're the ladies in a long
line of witches, cursed in love.

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They've almost got the same type
of curse that our love witch had

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back in the other movie, right?

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Earlier in this project
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And basically,

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that they thread that line
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17th century in New England.

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You know, here's their ancestor
Maria who is hated by the town.

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Especially because, um, the women.

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want to protect their
husbands from someone who has

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clearly some sexual energy.

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I don't know, you know, that's
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come from anyway, right?

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yeah, so that's got historical reference
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what they show here at the beginning
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And then basically what we find out is
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with an Owens woman meets a grim death.

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Like it's, it's, they're done.

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Like everybody that falls in love.

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Jilly gets tangled up with Jimmy.

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This dude's a creep.

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Like, is he not?

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Yeah, obviously we're like looking
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witch and what makes her useful or how
she's perceived by her community, right?

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So like, Jilly has all this sexual
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Oh my gosh.

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I have like a big girl crush on her.

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I can't

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I still,

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She's amazing.

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she still, she was in something
just not long ago and I still, I was

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like, she still looks incredible.

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Like it's,

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Isn't she just like dripping with it?

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Like, she's just like, just
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and everybody's like, oh, like,

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she's got a, she's got an aura,
she's got a a, a witchy aura already.

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I think there's some
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I, I do think some of them women
are witches, and I don't mean

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that in a derogatory Tyra because
I mean, hell, I'm part of.

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Yeah, yeah, very powerful.

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Very powerful.

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But I have to highlight this generational
curse we have here because the

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healing work that I do, this is very
much some of the healing work that's

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needed in like any family, not which
families, but like generational things

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that have happened in your ancestry
can affect generations beyond that.

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So knowing what their ancestor Maria went
through when she was cast out from the

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community and she was labeled a witch
and now the Owens women have to relate

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with how that affects them throughout
their lives and their love lives.

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That's very much a real thing.

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I mean, that's something that I work with
people in the healing space is what sort

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of things didn't start with you that now
you and your lifetime are having to deal

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with and heal and witness about yourself.

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is that like a, like a
trauma therapy type thing?

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Or what is that?

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Yeah.

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What do you do?

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does.

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So what would a, what would a
witch, what would a witch do in

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that situation to help somebody?

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Like, what, what would you do?

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What would you do?

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So for me personally, I use the healing
techniques of Reiki and emotional

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processing when I am with a client,
I'm working emotional processing.

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We're pulling out energy and
we're discovering what it

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is that needs to be moved.

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Right?

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So in.

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The movie, the way that Sally, so
we're talking about young Sally in

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the beginning when she's making that
love spell and she's going around the

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greenhouse and she's, because she's
like, I never want to fall in love.

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She, she's seeing these women who are like
tapping at the glass at her aunt's house.

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You know, they're like crazy in
love and they just want like spells.

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They want someone to
be obsessed with them.

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um, This is like really exciting to Jilly.

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She's like, I can't wait to fall in love.

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And Sally is like, I never
want to fall in love.

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This looks awful.

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Yeah,

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It's horrible.

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So she goes around and she's picking
petals off of, um, plants, right?

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And she's putting it in a bowl.

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it's almost like, There's no, uh,
official rule book about how this works.

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She's like, you know, his
favorite shape will be a star.

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And she seeks a petal that's a star shape.

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And she puts it in her bowl.

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I have done enough courses and classes on
magic to know that this is more accurate

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than not, that when creating a spell,
it's less important that you're getting

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the right ingredients and more important
that you're infusing it with intention.

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So it's a lot like when little
kids are making potions out of

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mud and sticks in their backyard.

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It really does look
more like that than not.

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Like, she's just like, I'm
gonna do this, and I'm gonna

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put that, and I'm gonna do that.

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And then she goes out, and it's
like full moon, and she just lets

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the petals fly in the wind, and
voila, she's created a spell.

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But the spell is ultimately what
helps break the curse, right?

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yeah.

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And that's, that's,
that's part of the plot.

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I didn't finish the initial

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The

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plot outline, but basically,
after she gets with Jimmy

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the creep, it all goes south.

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He meets his demise at
the hands of the witches.

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Yeah,

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which style?

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In which?

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Exactly, in which style?

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It was which style?

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And he doesn't stay dead.

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There's a ghostly showdown, some
serious sisterhood bonding, and then

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finally she breaks the family curse.

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Like, they break it at the end, but
that's basically, that's the movie.

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That's the plot outline, but
there's so much more to dig into.

282
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Like, there is a lot to
get into in this movie.

283
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Yeah, the actual, like, love that
breaks the curse between sisters,

284
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these blood sisters, right?

285
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Um, which, by the way, uh, Sandra Bullock
and Nicole Kidman had spent so much

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time on set together in rehearsals and
stuff, they, um, I think it was Sandra

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Bullock that said, I want Nicole Kidman.

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I want her to play my sister, and brought
her in to the movie after she was cast.

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So The, um, the producers of the
show were like, they actually

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became very much like sisters.

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They were, they fought like sisters.

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They bonded like sisters.

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And, um, and I love hearing
that because you see it come

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through in their performance.

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They're so sister like.

296
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They're just so connected, right?

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Yeah, so the dynamic of them on
set, though, behind the scenes, they

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encountered kind of a weird, like, a
unexpected And what it was, was Griffin

299
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Dunn, he's the, he's the director.

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He had Sandra Bullock on one side
and Nicole Kidman on one side, and

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Sandra Bullock was doing all of
her takes in two, three takes done.

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Nicole Kidman, on the other hand, had
just gotten done working with Stanley

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Kubrick for 18 months on Eyes Wide Shut.

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Now, Stanley.

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is infamous or famous, whichever
one you want to look at it,

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for doing like 70, 80 takes.

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So you had Sandra Bullock
doing two or three,

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It's like,

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like I'm done.

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And yeah, and then Nicole Kidman
needed like 70 or 80 takes for this.

311
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That had to be, that had to cost
some real on set, yeah, fighting.

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Uh,

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so.

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I

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I'm sure

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Bullock just standing there going
like, come on, what are we doing?

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you can only take that so much when
you're like, hey man, I'm, I'm done.

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Like, like get it together, you know,
like it's either that or I don't know.

319
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If she was trying to be the perfectionist,
because that's what Kubrick was, you know,

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he had other movies, he had, uh, 2001,
you know, you know, all those movies out

321
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there, he put so much effort into that it
wasn't ever going to be two, three takes.

322
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So, She had to get out of that mind frame.

323
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That's, that to me is, that's
a huge drastic difference when

324
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you're working on a film like that.

325
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So yeah, but

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Makes sense why, uh, Nicole Kidman was
dripping with sexual energy after coming

327
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off of that movie and then coming in

328
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does, she

329
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a witch.

330
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just came out of, uh, 18 months of orgies,
you know, that's what she'd been doing.

331
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mean, yeah, let's just,
let's call it what it is.

332
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But uh, speaking of Dunn and
did you hear about the story?

333
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They had, um, hired a witch to be a
consultant on set and, um, I was thinking

334
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to myself when I read this, I, sign me up.

335
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Who needs a witch to be a
consultant on a movie stage?

336
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I will do it in a heartbeat.

337
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But, um, apparently this witch
didn't like what she was paid.

338
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She was, um, asking for more money and
they were like, Sorry, this is what's

339
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in your contract or whatever it is.

340
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and she cursed the set.

341
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And Dunn had to bring in, um, some
other, I don't know what he brought,

342
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who he brought in or what he did,
but they, they held like a, with all

343
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of the, um, actors, they held like a
seance or a ceremony to break the curse

344
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or to cleanse the set of the curse.

345
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and he's quoted as saying, curses only
have power if you believe in them.

346
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So, apparently he believed that
perhaps this curse was correct, it

347
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was real, and that he was like, well,
you know, it won't hurt to maybe just

348
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bring somebody in, and we'll just
kind of cleanse the set of the curse

349
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No, that's wild.

350
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That's wild, because I've heard the
stories about, you know, during filming,

351
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cast and crew, they would experience,
like, strange unexplained events.

352
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The clocks would stop at midnight,
lights flickering, which that, I guess,

353
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did lead to the real exorcism on, on
the set, if you want to call it that.

354
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That's

355
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what it was.

356
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It had to have been an exorcism.

357
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So, so you're telling me that while
the Owens sisters were battling the

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undead lovers and family curses on
the screen, that the cast and crew

359
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were really dealing with, like,
seriously spooky stuff off screen?

360
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Which we have, this is not the
first movie that we've reviewed.

361
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On the which movie podcast, which movie
project podcast, where we've talked

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about like this kind of stuff happening
behind the scenes or like when you're

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delving into this world of magic, um,
kind of being able to see what is the

364
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unseen, what are we not, you know,
what are we experiencing here, right?

365
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That's dedication to the craft.

366
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I can tell you that.

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Cause I don't know if I'd stay
on a movie set, making a scary

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movie and there's really scary,

369
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I'll probably take it as a sign,
like, get the fuck out of there.

370
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I don't know.

371
00:17:34,653 --> 00:17:39,253
Yeah, I hereby bless this podcast and
I hereby bless this podcast and ward

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off any energy that does not serve us.

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And there we are.

374
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So,

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Now let's talk about the scene.

376
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You know, which one you had a
party dedicated to this scene.

377
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It's the one where they, the witches
bond over the midnight margaritas.

378
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It's honestly like a, uh, Not just
the most iconic moment in this

379
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movie, but it's, it's a, a, an
iconic moment in film, like period.

380
00:18:07,603 --> 00:18:10,453
Uh, it's led to parties.

381
00:18:10,723 --> 00:18:12,463
It's led to practical magic parties.

382
00:18:12,463 --> 00:18:15,683
Like you said, you can't, you can't
be the only one that's ever done it.

383
00:18:16,613 --> 00:18:17,583
Oh, for sure not.

384
00:18:17,843 --> 00:18:21,203
And I honestly, like, don't
condone the idolization of

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alcoholism or anything like that.

386
00:18:22,923 --> 00:18:24,283
I'm just going to put that out there.

387
00:18:24,283 --> 00:18:26,913
But, um, I'm terrible
at making margaritas.

388
00:18:26,913 --> 00:18:27,818
I don't know how to make a margarita.

389
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So I apologize to anybody who
did come to my party because I

390
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didn't know how to make them.

391
00:18:32,593 --> 00:18:36,323
but I love the like modern day reference
of the blender being the cauldron.

392
00:18:36,623 --> 00:18:36,983
Yeah.

393
00:18:37,293 --> 00:18:37,813
Yeah.

394
00:18:38,913 --> 00:18:40,563
Great, great, great point.

395
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Now that's, that's a super cool.

396
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Uh, like you said, modernization
of the, the old black cauldron

397
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that we always picture.

398
00:18:51,123 --> 00:18:53,203
Now,

399
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to be You know, ancient times.

400
00:18:56,058 --> 00:18:58,568
We don't have to have this big
black cauldron over a roaring fire.

401
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We can have, we can have a
modern version of our witchcraft.

402
00:19:01,718 --> 00:19:04,638
And it can look like whatever
intention we infuse it with.

403
00:19:05,098 --> 00:19:08,558
So, let that be known
to all of you seeking

404
00:19:11,753 --> 00:19:14,913
I heard that the potions they
were, they were brewing up with

405
00:19:14,913 --> 00:19:16,263
this, with these margaritas.

406
00:19:16,263 --> 00:19:19,413
I heard that they were actually drinking
alcohol and bad tequila on set and

407
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getting drunk during these takes.

408
00:19:21,323 --> 00:19:22,313
So some of this is like,

409
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Kidman, um, is

410
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yeah,

411
00:19:23,948 --> 00:19:25,108
how the rumors go.

412
00:19:25,148 --> 00:19:28,328
Uh, she brought on some real
tequila and they actually, even,

413
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I think, um, everybody but the
cameramen, camera people, who

414
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I had a, they had all this.

415
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They had to hold it straight.

416
00:19:35,303 --> 00:19:36,493
I mean, it would have been, it would have

417
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producers, everybody,
Becks, behind the scene.

418
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looked like this if, if, uh, if
the people had been drinking.

419
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Tilted.

420
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It would have been on tilt.

421
00:19:44,993 --> 00:19:45,263
you imagine?

422
00:19:45,763 --> 00:19:49,053
They're just all, yeah, they
forgot they were filming a movie.

423
00:19:49,063 --> 00:19:51,063
They're just like having
a good time, partying.

424
00:19:51,363 --> 00:19:56,663
Hey, now that's the kind of film
set I would like to be a part of and

425
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not that supernatural stuff going on
where it's clock stopping at midnight.

426
00:20:01,443 --> 00:20:03,583
Did they ever check the
batteries you think?

427
00:20:03,653 --> 00:20:05,743
I don't know.

428
00:20:07,493 --> 00:20:11,283
Yeah, they're like, we forgot to, um,
we forgot to pay the guy that normally

429
00:20:11,963 --> 00:20:12,223
Yeah.

430
00:20:12,223 --> 00:20:12,933
I don't know what happened there.

431
00:20:13,273 --> 00:20:13,643
I don't know.

432
00:20:13,653 --> 00:20:15,123
I'm not sure there, but

433
00:20:15,823 --> 00:20:19,333
Okay, but I do have to say, this
scene always makes me stink.

434
00:20:20,781 --> 00:20:25,948
This and the part where they go to
live, the young girls, Sally and Jilly,

435
00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:30,058
when they first come to live with the
aunts, they're like, we eat chocolate

436
00:20:30,058 --> 00:20:33,988
cake for breakfast, we never brush our
teeth, we never do homework, you know,

437
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and they're kind of like, whatever.

438
00:20:35,968 --> 00:20:38,858
And the midnight margarita scene and that.

439
00:20:39,713 --> 00:20:46,283
Both give me such a sense of relief
because there is a very powerful message

440
00:20:46,293 --> 00:20:53,233
in just that little especially to
women, which is you don't have to behave

441
00:20:55,713 --> 00:20:58,893
and you don't have to like fall
under societal norms, right?

442
00:20:59,263 --> 00:21:02,883
So like this waking up at midnight
just to have midnight margaritas,

443
00:21:03,073 --> 00:21:04,953
it's like there's no rules.

444
00:21:05,653 --> 00:21:08,963
You don't, there's, rules you
think there are, they're pretend.

445
00:21:09,313 --> 00:21:10,733
Like they're somebody else's rules.

446
00:21:11,143 --> 00:21:15,143
We get to live by our own rules, and
that is so freeing to someone like me.

447
00:21:16,753 --> 00:21:16,983
Yeah!

448
00:21:16,983 --> 00:21:18,190
Why not?

449
00:21:18,190 --> 00:21:18,583
Yeah!

450
00:21:18,883 --> 00:21:21,463
that's an incredible
takeaway from that scene.

451
00:21:21,983 --> 00:21:24,203
Uh, it, it, it, it is so true that

452
00:21:26,643 --> 00:21:27,703
somebody else made the rules.

453
00:21:28,103 --> 00:21:30,143
Somebody else made the rules at all times.

454
00:21:30,163 --> 00:21:30,783
Every rule.

455
00:21:32,073 --> 00:21:34,853
And usually the women who are
accused of witchcraft, let's talk

456
00:21:34,853 --> 00:21:38,763
historically, are just women who didn't
really want to live by those rules.

457
00:21:38,773 --> 00:21:41,573
Like, they were women who were
like, Wait, this is not serving me.

458
00:21:41,733 --> 00:21:44,573
What if I make up my own rules and
I live my life based on my rules?

459
00:21:46,578 --> 00:21:49,538
That often got them into
trouble, to be honest, but it's

460
00:21:49,553 --> 00:21:49,943
Yeah.

461
00:21:50,003 --> 00:21:50,523
It did.

462
00:21:51,158 --> 00:21:54,448
so freeing to realize that, like, I
can wake up at midnight, and it might

463
00:21:54,448 --> 00:21:58,578
not be midnight margaritas, but it
can be midnight, um, chocolate bars.

464
00:21:58,613 --> 00:21:58,878
Yeah.

465
00:21:58,923 --> 00:21:59,708
Oh, hell yeah.

466
00:22:00,043 --> 00:22:00,218
you want!

467
00:22:00,218 --> 00:22:00,868
Mm

468
00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:02,103
I love it.

469
00:22:02,143 --> 00:22:05,613
But let me go back to the,
to, to Hollywood and witches.

470
00:22:06,613 --> 00:22:10,853
Just in general, I'm like, everybody
back up here because I might go

471
00:22:10,853 --> 00:22:14,513
off on a rant here about what
Hollywood's done to the witches.

472
00:22:14,513 --> 00:22:17,023
They basically, they made them
out to be tragically romantic

473
00:22:17,023 --> 00:22:18,683
figures doomed to lose in love.

474
00:22:20,213 --> 00:22:22,343
They're trying, they try to find
strength through the sisterhood.

475
00:22:22,373 --> 00:22:24,443
All the movies are basically
the same about witches.

476
00:22:24,853 --> 00:22:29,853
And then Practical Magic,
ultimate homage to this trope.

477
00:22:30,073 --> 00:22:34,213
Uh, Sally, Jilly, they're not
just facing the external demons,

478
00:22:34,213 --> 00:22:35,563
but they got internal ones too.

479
00:22:36,033 --> 00:22:42,083
And it's all this stuff going on, it's
real life, there's romance, bond between

480
00:22:42,083 --> 00:22:43,783
the sisters that takes the center stage.

481
00:22:43,783 --> 00:22:47,083
They laugh, fight, they
did all this on set.

482
00:22:47,563 --> 00:22:51,633
This is really behind the scenes
and on set, it all came across.

483
00:22:52,703 --> 00:22:55,153
And now it's a true sisterhood.

484
00:22:56,278 --> 00:22:56,478
Yes.

485
00:22:56,943 --> 00:23:01,293
Hollywood has always tried to do these
different things with what witchcraft

486
00:23:01,413 --> 00:23:06,173
and witches are and I think this one
says it a little bit different than

487
00:23:06,173 --> 00:23:08,313
what some of these other movies have.

488
00:23:08,593 --> 00:23:08,973
What do you,

489
00:23:09,308 --> 00:23:09,358
hmm.

490
00:23:09,793 --> 00:23:11,933
I gotta, what do you
got to say about that?

491
00:23:14,528 --> 00:23:17,398
Uh, throwback to my awesome
interview with Robin Lively.

492
00:23:17,523 --> 00:23:18,833
Go check that out if you haven't.

493
00:23:18,943 --> 00:23:20,743
Episode three, Robin Lively.

494
00:23:20,743 --> 00:23:22,787
You mentioned the house.

495
00:23:22,787 --> 00:23:25,698
We gotta talk about the house.

496
00:23:25,998 --> 00:23:32,018
you know, I, okay, so this is kind
of, um, like a great connection

497
00:23:32,028 --> 00:23:34,158
to the movie Frozen, right?

498
00:23:35,228 --> 00:23:40,633
here we have like, Disney's
typical princess curse, whatever,

499
00:23:40,673 --> 00:23:42,423
true love will break the curse.

500
00:23:43,243 --> 00:23:47,543
What the movie Frozen did, and I think
I can dare say this movie Practical

501
00:23:47,553 --> 00:23:51,363
Magic did before Frozen, was it
showed that it wasn't the love of a

502
00:23:51,363 --> 00:23:54,913
man, it wasn't a masculine figure or
the romantic love that was going to

503
00:23:54,923 --> 00:23:57,593
break this curse, it was sisterhood.

504
00:23:57,933 --> 00:24:02,553
It was acceptance of, of
them into their society.

505
00:24:02,593 --> 00:24:10,068
Like, my favorite, okay, my favorite
One of my favorite parts of this movie.

506
00:24:10,228 --> 00:24:11,368
I have a lot of favorite parts.

507
00:24:12,867 --> 00:24:18,848
When she activates the phone tree and
gets all the women who have been scared

508
00:24:18,848 --> 00:24:22,958
of them their whole lives and calling
them witches and are like, I don't

509
00:24:22,958 --> 00:24:25,508
know, men die in the Owens family.

510
00:24:25,508 --> 00:24:27,428
I don't know how, but
there's definitely a curse.

511
00:24:27,478 --> 00:24:28,528
And they're kind of scared.

512
00:24:28,838 --> 00:24:31,468
They're the ones throwing rocks
at them when they're kids and

513
00:24:31,553 --> 00:24:33,298
calling them witch, witch, bitch.

514
00:24:34,278 --> 00:24:38,508
And here's Sally and she's
activating the phone tree.

515
00:24:39,148 --> 00:24:40,808
Which is like the PTA.

516
00:24:40,978 --> 00:24:42,778
It's like the moms of the town.

517
00:24:42,818 --> 00:24:45,538
And she's like, Hey, so guess what?

518
00:24:45,878 --> 00:24:46,768
I am a witch.

519
00:24:47,008 --> 00:24:48,358
My sister's possessed.

520
00:24:48,478 --> 00:24:51,193
Um, we're really going to need Some help.

521
00:24:51,383 --> 00:24:52,723
Can you bring a broom and come over?

522
00:24:53,843 --> 00:24:54,953
And they do.

523
00:24:55,643 --> 00:25:00,733
They show up with brooms, these women
who don't know anything and are honestly

524
00:25:00,733 --> 00:25:02,473
scared of what they didn't know.

525
00:25:03,233 --> 00:25:08,713
And um, even the one that was kind of the,
the ringleader of the mommy moms, whatever

526
00:25:08,713 --> 00:25:11,023
you want to call them, um, queen bee.

527
00:25:11,983 --> 00:25:14,753
she's like, like, well,
thank you for coming.

528
00:25:14,753 --> 00:25:17,183
And she's like, Oh, um, well,
you know, I've always wanted to

529
00:25:17,183 --> 00:25:18,267
see the inside of your house.

530
00:25:19,503 --> 00:25:22,543
She's secretly, they
wanted to be a part of it.

531
00:25:22,563 --> 00:25:27,163
They didn't want to, you know, they were
just afraid of what they didn't know.

532
00:25:27,610 --> 00:25:31,863
And when they broke the barriers
of that and created a sisterhood

533
00:25:31,893 --> 00:25:36,893
among the women of the, of the town,
that's when the curse actually broke.

534
00:25:37,608 --> 00:25:39,888
know, not from Finding Love.

535
00:25:39,888 --> 00:25:43,568
It wasn't really, you know, Sally
and even her relationship with this

536
00:25:43,618 --> 00:25:48,218
sheriff guy, which was all great
and everything, but it was that,

537
00:25:48,238 --> 00:25:50,178
it was like that sisterhood, right?

538
00:25:51,208 --> 00:25:52,338
Incredible.

539
00:25:55,418 --> 00:25:55,618
Yeah.

540
00:25:55,618 --> 00:25:56,218
Let's talk about the house.

541
00:25:56,833 --> 00:26:03,533
Like, it's a dreamy Victorian
house that we all wish we'd

542
00:26:03,533 --> 00:26:04,623
lived in this house, right?

543
00:26:04,623 --> 00:26:04,833
Like,

544
00:26:05,538 --> 00:26:07,233
The house is a character itself,

545
00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:07,903
is.

546
00:26:07,963 --> 00:26:08,783
It really is.

547
00:26:09,083 --> 00:26:10,323
Yeah.

548
00:26:10,623 --> 00:26:12,153
this thing out somewhere in Washington.

549
00:26:12,403 --> 00:26:13,783
Uh, Washington State.

550
00:26:14,323 --> 00:26:14,903
Um,

551
00:26:17,048 --> 00:26:21,698
It's just a shell of a house from
the outside scenes that they filmed.

552
00:26:22,648 --> 00:26:24,683
And then they did the inside
scenes on the soundstage.

553
00:26:24,948 --> 00:26:25,028
Yeah.

554
00:26:25,778 --> 00:26:30,358
Um, but Barbara Streisand actually,
um, tried to buy the house, she

555
00:26:30,388 --> 00:26:33,598
offered to purchase it and they
were like, um, you know, Babs.

556
00:26:34,858 --> 00:26:35,318
Not real.

557
00:26:39,073 --> 00:26:41,203
That's a true testament
to what the house is.

558
00:26:41,243 --> 00:26:42,803
It really, that's a true testament to it.

559
00:26:42,913 --> 00:26:44,843
If she tried to buy it, cause
she thought it was real.

560
00:26:44,843 --> 00:26:45,793
That's awesome to me.

561
00:26:46,003 --> 00:26:46,443
Um,

562
00:26:46,458 --> 00:26:47,148
mean if I was.

563
00:26:48,258 --> 00:26:52,178
If I had money like Barbara Streisand,
I would be offering to buy it too.

564
00:26:52,428 --> 00:26:55,448
But there was rumor about
them releasing blueprints for

565
00:26:55,448 --> 00:26:56,998
the house a couple years ago.

566
00:26:56,998 --> 00:27:01,428
I remember everybody was really excited
about it because, it became available.

567
00:27:01,428 --> 00:27:06,718
Like, someone had actually constructed
blueprints for house and, um, you

568
00:27:06,718 --> 00:27:08,348
could buy that and build it, I guess.

569
00:27:08,783 --> 00:27:09,243
real,

570
00:27:10,438 --> 00:27:11,148
it'd be amazing.

571
00:27:11,158 --> 00:27:19,708
But the aesthetic of this movie, the
set, is such a um, icon that you see like

572
00:27:19,768 --> 00:27:22,918
videos of people all over the internet
that are like decorating their house

573
00:27:23,108 --> 00:27:25,258
in practical magic aesthetic, right?

574
00:27:25,258 --> 00:27:27,373
Like black stairs and

575
00:27:27,673 --> 00:27:28,023
real.

576
00:27:28,328 --> 00:27:32,248
painted walls and the types of
frames around their pictures,

577
00:27:32,258 --> 00:27:33,128
all that kind of stuff.

578
00:27:33,593 --> 00:27:35,653
And Nate, I'm going to
throw this out there.

579
00:27:35,653 --> 00:27:39,403
Maybe it happens subliminally
cause I just painted my wall

580
00:27:39,403 --> 00:27:40,953
black yesterday for some reason.

581
00:27:42,413 --> 00:27:44,043
Is that, that I could hit?

582
00:27:44,208 --> 00:27:44,758
this movie.

583
00:27:44,758 --> 00:27:46,333
You were like, I just feel this

584
00:27:46,633 --> 00:27:47,173
I did.

585
00:27:47,218 --> 00:27:48,218
need it in my house.

586
00:27:48,923 --> 00:27:51,053
Me and Lindsey, we painted
the wall black yesterday.

587
00:27:51,053 --> 00:27:52,303
Don't know why, just did it.

588
00:27:52,743 --> 00:27:55,763
Yeah, dark walls are really
in right now, design wise.

589
00:27:55,813 --> 00:27:56,093
It's

590
00:27:56,113 --> 00:27:56,413
I'm,

591
00:27:56,433 --> 00:27:57,363
ahead of their time.

592
00:27:57,453 --> 00:27:58,403
I'm a little spooked out.

593
00:27:58,403 --> 00:27:59,643
I think Sandra Bullock got me.

594
00:28:00,783 --> 00:28:04,293
She gets me too!

595
00:28:04,293 --> 00:28:05,093
I love her.

596
00:28:05,423 --> 00:28:06,493
And let's talk about Jimmy.

597
00:28:07,193 --> 00:28:07,743
Yeah.

598
00:28:07,853 --> 00:28:09,333
This guy's a piece of shit, right?

599
00:28:09,333 --> 00:28:09,883
Like he's

600
00:28:10,603 --> 00:28:11,283
mm hmm.

601
00:28:11,393 --> 00:28:14,013
just a, just a, just trash.

602
00:28:14,043 --> 00:28:14,353
Just,

603
00:28:16,723 --> 00:28:18,983
that's about, that's about the
best word you could say for him.

604
00:28:18,993 --> 00:28:19,333
But

605
00:28:20,123 --> 00:28:20,523
Yeah.

606
00:28:20,843 --> 00:28:26,893
Nobody's like, um, watching this movie
and calling the Owen sisters the villains

607
00:28:27,193 --> 00:28:27,593
yeah,

608
00:28:28,083 --> 00:28:29,023
for killing this guy.

609
00:28:29,323 --> 00:28:29,703
no,

610
00:28:30,013 --> 00:28:33,493
And she even said, she's like, oh,
you're going to arrest me because there's

611
00:28:33,523 --> 00:28:35,633
one less Jimmy Angelo in the world?

612
00:28:35,663 --> 00:28:35,953
Like,

613
00:28:36,253 --> 00:28:41,303
right now, this guy is Goran Visnjic,

614
00:28:44,041 --> 00:28:48,183
sorry if I pronounced that wrong,
but he's also been out in like, uh,

615
00:28:48,193 --> 00:28:49,933
Hellraiser and stuff like that, I believe.

616
00:28:50,608 --> 00:28:55,058
He, uh, is a producer and, and everything
else, but he, but he got into this

617
00:28:55,058 --> 00:28:56,276
role and I think he played it right.

618
00:28:56,428 --> 00:29:00,668
Like, the fact that I'm sitting here
saying this guy, he's a piece of shit,

619
00:29:01,478 --> 00:29:03,558
played the role, he played it incredible.

620
00:29:04,193 --> 00:29:04,553
Yeah.

621
00:29:04,908 --> 00:29:06,188
Like, that's all you can say for this guy.

622
00:29:06,188 --> 00:29:06,548
So,

623
00:29:08,063 --> 00:29:08,923
Yes.

624
00:29:09,193 --> 00:29:14,693
Um, the music, uh, plays a part
in many scenes in this movie, but

625
00:29:14,693 --> 00:29:16,553
the you were always on my mind

626
00:29:16,928 --> 00:29:17,668
oh man,

627
00:29:17,733 --> 00:29:20,663
then it comes back later when they're
drunk on tequila and they're singing.

628
00:29:21,758 --> 00:29:22,768
what a soundtrack.

629
00:29:23,523 --> 00:29:23,993
Oh yeah,

630
00:29:24,153 --> 00:29:27,753
I'm gonna get into that too because
this soundtrack really to me when

631
00:29:27,753 --> 00:29:32,373
I was watching the movie back
It's it's a it's like a a great

632
00:29:32,643 --> 00:29:34,183
time capsule that you open up

633
00:29:34,523 --> 00:29:34,933
yeah,

634
00:29:35,083 --> 00:29:39,753
and get to hear these songs like
you've got The song you just mentioned.

635
00:29:39,753 --> 00:29:40,243
What was that one?

636
00:29:41,423 --> 00:29:42,923
you were always on my mind.

637
00:29:43,223 --> 00:29:44,183
on my mind by

638
00:29:44,483 --> 00:29:46,033
course, the iconic.

639
00:29:47,218 --> 00:29:53,368
kiss from the scene where they, put
the spell on Sally for, for her to

640
00:29:53,368 --> 00:29:55,688
meet her husband and, um, Michael.

641
00:29:56,068 --> 00:29:58,398
And I mean, everybody knows that scene.

642
00:29:58,478 --> 00:29:59,818
Everybody loves that scene.

643
00:30:00,228 --> 00:30:04,198
This kiss and she's running down and they
like barely know each other, but she runs

644
00:30:04,198 --> 00:30:06,208
down the street and leaps into his arms.

645
00:30:06,238 --> 00:30:06,938
Oh my gosh.

646
00:30:07,448 --> 00:30:09,348
A Faith Hill banger.

647
00:30:09,408 --> 00:30:10,118
This kid.

648
00:30:10,428 --> 00:30:12,188
I don't even really listen
to country music, but I know

649
00:30:12,188 --> 00:30:13,348
every word of that damn song.

650
00:30:13,468 --> 00:30:13,868
Like, really.

651
00:30:13,958 --> 00:30:14,238
too.

652
00:30:15,748 --> 00:30:18,278
You even had some Marvin Gaye on there.

653
00:30:18,288 --> 00:30:20,318
You had, who else was on this soundtrack?

654
00:30:20,398 --> 00:30:23,068
Uh, George Jones?

655
00:30:23,338 --> 00:30:23,678
Tammy Wynette?

656
00:30:24,228 --> 00:30:25,118
Some more country music.

657
00:30:25,598 --> 00:30:26,928
Joni Mitchell was on there.

658
00:30:27,228 --> 00:30:27,898
Oh yeah.

659
00:30:28,028 --> 00:30:28,558
Oh yeah.

660
00:30:29,508 --> 00:30:32,388
There's so many names on here that
are, Stevie Nicks, Sheryl Crow,

661
00:30:33,078 --> 00:30:34,138
We asked you next.

662
00:30:34,148 --> 00:30:34,428
Yes.

663
00:30:34,488 --> 00:30:37,508
Stevie Nicks and Sheryl Crow,
they produced and performed two

664
00:30:37,508 --> 00:30:38,748
different songs on this soundtrack.

665
00:30:39,218 --> 00:30:40,508
It's wild.

666
00:30:40,508 --> 00:30:42,378
Stevie

667
00:30:43,543 --> 00:30:45,113
You can't, I mean, please.

668
00:30:45,113 --> 00:30:51,938
Yeah,

669
00:30:52,238 --> 00:30:52,868
with Coven.

670
00:30:53,638 --> 00:30:57,698
I believe she was in one of the, it was
the second, the second time Coven came

671
00:30:57,698 --> 00:30:59,118
back around with American Horror Story.

672
00:30:59,492 --> 00:31:00,638
I watched that, I loved it.

673
00:31:00,638 --> 00:31:02,468
I loved Stevie Nicks in a witch role.

674
00:31:03,418 --> 00:31:04,328
We should see more of that.

675
00:31:04,368 --> 00:31:06,758
We should get, we should see if
we can get Stevie Nicks out there.

676
00:31:07,118 --> 00:31:07,688
A gig.

677
00:31:08,248 --> 00:31:12,548
Maybe I'll have to get a, uh,
a, uh, agent fee if I can get

678
00:31:12,548 --> 00:31:14,298
her another witch gig out there.

679
00:31:15,258 --> 00:31:16,018
Hit us up Stevie.

680
00:31:16,018 --> 00:31:17,398
Hit us up if you need some work.

681
00:31:20,223 --> 00:31:23,833
I, I, I'm to bet she's not suffering, but,

682
00:31:23,958 --> 00:31:24,528
Yeah, I don't think so.

683
00:31:24,528 --> 00:31:27,408
Hmm.

684
00:31:27,483 --> 00:31:30,413
I know this is kind of like,
uh, taking a little tangent.

685
00:31:30,463 --> 00:31:30,843
Okay.

686
00:31:31,153 --> 00:31:36,893
So the kiss song, it comes on,
I have to talk about the ants.

687
00:31:38,323 --> 00:31:41,523
Alright, so when I first watched
this movie, I was a kid, right?

688
00:31:41,688 --> 00:31:46,803
I was, was a teenager when this
came out, and a young teenager,

689
00:31:47,553 --> 00:31:48,413
if you don't mind me saying.

690
00:31:48,453 --> 00:31:51,433
I was a young teenager when this
came out, and of course I wanted to

691
00:31:51,443 --> 00:31:53,178
be Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman.

692
00:31:53,243 --> 00:31:55,053
I wanted to be them.

693
00:31:56,123 --> 00:32:01,883
you know, the young, hip, I don't
know, just awesome that they were.

694
00:32:02,133 --> 00:32:05,123
Now that I'm a little bit
older, a little bit, little bit.

695
00:32:05,738 --> 00:32:07,118
Not much, but a little bit older.

696
00:32:07,678 --> 00:32:12,318
I identify with the ants so much more
now, and now it would be like my dream

697
00:32:13,078 --> 00:32:19,118
to live as one of the ants in a big old
Victorian house with my sisters, uh,

698
00:32:19,118 --> 00:32:25,248
and nieces, or whatever, and spinning
wool, and doing love spells, and cooking,

699
00:32:25,258 --> 00:32:30,358
and have a greenhouse, and whatever it
is they do with their time, having tea

700
00:32:30,358 --> 00:32:32,328
parties on the lawn with your kitty cats.

701
00:32:33,728 --> 00:32:34,568
It sounds amazing.

702
00:32:34,578 --> 00:32:34,968
I'm in.

703
00:32:35,428 --> 00:32:35,978
I, yeah.

704
00:32:36,993 --> 00:32:40,968
amazing, but by Diane West, right?

705
00:32:41,268 --> 00:32:41,668
Yeah.

706
00:32:41,838 --> 00:32:42,738
Oh yeah.

707
00:32:43,833 --> 00:32:46,523
um, who is it?

708
00:32:46,573 --> 00:32:51,783
Oh, Stalker Gianni, um,
the, the, um, Franny, right?

709
00:32:52,653 --> 00:32:53,293
They are

710
00:32:55,303 --> 00:33:00,233
but Diane West particularly has some
of the best lines in this whole movie.

711
00:33:00,703 --> 00:33:06,313
So when the kiss song starts up
and she turns to the camera, the

712
00:33:06,397 --> 00:33:11,303
camera behind her and she turns her
head and she just says excellent.

713
00:33:12,273 --> 00:33:14,873
That is one of my favorite lines.

714
00:33:15,318 --> 00:33:15,868
I love it.

715
00:33:16,023 --> 00:33:17,583
I quote it all the time.

716
00:33:17,663 --> 00:33:20,823
You would not believe how many times
that, that comes up in my life.

717
00:33:21,163 --> 00:33:24,873
And the other, my favorite line
of hers is when they're leaving

718
00:33:24,873 --> 00:33:27,693
the, um, leaving to go get Jilly.

719
00:33:27,693 --> 00:33:28,373
She's in trouble.

720
00:33:28,383 --> 00:33:30,563
So she's leaving and she's like,
you're going to have to take the

721
00:33:30,563 --> 00:33:33,703
girls, her daughters with them
to the solstice celebration.

722
00:33:34,553 --> 00:33:36,733
like, don't let them dance
naked under the full moon.

723
00:33:37,623 --> 00:33:41,693
And my favorite line that Jett says is.

724
00:33:42,458 --> 00:33:46,068
Oh, you know that nudity is
optional, as you well remember.

725
00:33:46,898 --> 00:33:49,118
That is my favorite line.

726
00:33:49,148 --> 00:33:50,278
I use it all the time.

727
00:33:51,508 --> 00:33:52,148
I loved it too.

728
00:33:52,148 --> 00:33:52,848
It stood out to me.

729
00:33:52,848 --> 00:33:53,748
I laughed at that one.

730
00:33:53,808 --> 00:33:54,608
I thought it was great.

731
00:33:55,208 --> 00:33:55,608
Uh,

732
00:33:57,428 --> 00:34:00,988
So when people say, Oh, you
know, you're going to go dancing

733
00:34:00,988 --> 00:34:02,578
under, naked under the full moon.

734
00:34:02,588 --> 00:34:05,928
I'm like, well, nudity is always
optional as you well remember.

735
00:34:06,458 --> 00:34:07,888
as you well remember.

736
00:34:09,478 --> 00:34:09,718
Yep.

737
00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:13,308
If I grow up to be the ants,
will be pleased as punch.

738
00:34:13,308 --> 00:34:14,648
That would be my dream.

739
00:34:15,358 --> 00:34:16,588
You think that changed with age?

740
00:34:17,823 --> 00:34:18,853
As you got wiser,

741
00:34:19,658 --> 00:34:20,448
Yeah, maybe.

742
00:34:20,488 --> 00:34:24,138
And maybe like, you know, when you're
younger, especially, you know, women,

743
00:34:24,148 --> 00:34:28,418
we're taught that like our, our romantic
connection, like finding your prince

744
00:34:28,418 --> 00:34:32,368
or your knight or your, you know, your
person is, is what it's all about.

745
00:34:33,208 --> 00:34:36,168
I think you reach a certain age
where you go, yeah, having love in my

746
00:34:36,168 --> 00:34:39,328
life is, is but it's not everything.

747
00:34:39,441 --> 00:34:39,848
Right?

748
00:34:39,848 --> 00:34:45,278
Like there is a whole me, independent.

749
00:34:46,136 --> 00:34:50,518
Of who I am as a wife or as a mother
or a girlfriend or whatever it is,

750
00:34:50,518 --> 00:34:52,568
it's like, there's a whole me there.

751
00:34:52,968 --> 00:34:58,458
And I think what the ants represent is
that coming into their age and their

752
00:34:58,458 --> 00:35:01,388
wisdom as like wholly themselves.

753
00:35:02,188 --> 00:35:06,219
these women are not participating
in any social norms like they're

754
00:35:06,248 --> 00:35:08,388
just like, I wear what I want.

755
00:35:08,428 --> 00:35:09,598
I do what I want.

756
00:35:10,213 --> 00:35:11,133
I drink at midnight.

757
00:35:11,788 --> 00:35:12,068
Right.

758
00:35:13,888 --> 00:35:16,398
That becomes kind of a
priority after a while.

759
00:35:16,518 --> 00:35:21,108
You start to be like, actually,
my happiness depends on me, not my

760
00:35:21,108 --> 00:35:22,978
connections to someone else, right?

761
00:35:23,278 --> 00:35:27,433
But that's like, that's a good, just
metaphor to pull out of that for life.

762
00:35:28,083 --> 00:35:30,373
In general, it really is.

763
00:35:31,573 --> 00:35:33,003
What's your final thoughts on this?

764
00:35:33,073 --> 00:35:34,353
You got final thoughts on this?

765
00:35:35,498 --> 00:35:37,338
Um, a couple of witchy things.

766
00:35:38,003 --> 00:35:39,003
people are interested.

767
00:35:39,013 --> 00:35:43,063
So, uh, they're, they're doing the
spell that brings Jimmy back to life.

768
00:35:43,393 --> 00:35:44,043
Resurrection.

769
00:35:44,043 --> 00:35:49,503
And yes, that's, you know, brings
them back as something dark so ants

770
00:35:49,503 --> 00:35:51,103
were warning, like, don't do that.

771
00:35:52,143 --> 00:35:55,848
They realized it was a big mistake,
but I do want to point out, they

772
00:35:55,848 --> 00:35:58,088
do say Hecate make it right.

773
00:35:58,828 --> 00:35:59,688
mentioned Hecate.

774
00:35:59,728 --> 00:36:02,288
So Hecate is a goddess of witchcraft.

775
00:36:02,653 --> 00:36:03,013
Okay.

776
00:36:03,313 --> 00:36:09,508
And, um, so she's well known in kind
of mythology as the, the witch goddess.

777
00:36:11,233 --> 00:36:13,893
is associated with the
forest, the forest animals.

778
00:36:14,363 --> 00:36:19,653
She's one that never has a partner
and does not have children.

779
00:36:19,823 --> 00:36:24,333
So she's not necessarily a mother
figure, unless you count the fact that

780
00:36:24,333 --> 00:36:26,813
she mothers all animals of the forest.

781
00:36:26,813 --> 00:36:30,553
And she's kind of a
midwife of the goddesses.

782
00:36:30,553 --> 00:36:32,113
So she's there during childbirth.

783
00:36:32,993 --> 00:36:34,913
associated with childbirth in that way.

784
00:36:35,593 --> 00:36:37,853
And she guards the portal
to the other world.

785
00:36:38,723 --> 00:36:45,943
when they're like, you know, and Invoking
Hecate or, um, they're basically kind

786
00:36:46,028 --> 00:36:52,258
of like invoking that portal to open
his soul back from the underworld or

787
00:36:52,258 --> 00:36:54,368
from the other world to come back.

788
00:36:54,728 --> 00:36:55,908
So this is something cool.

789
00:36:56,648 --> 00:36:59,838
Connects you with the folklore
of what that, where that came

790
00:36:59,838 --> 00:37:01,238
from, why they talk about that.

791
00:37:01,453 --> 00:37:01,843
I love that.

792
00:37:01,843 --> 00:37:03,793
It's like, it's almost like a
little Easter egg there because they

793
00:37:03,793 --> 00:37:05,023
don't give you any of that info.

794
00:37:05,063 --> 00:37:08,113
And I was going to ask you, I
was going to ask you about that

795
00:37:08,113 --> 00:37:09,163
name that they were saying.

796
00:37:09,183 --> 00:37:11,503
And I wondered when I heard it.

797
00:37:11,868 --> 00:37:15,078
If it was real or if it was something
they just added to the script.

798
00:37:15,498 --> 00:37:18,108
So that's, I think that's a great insight.

799
00:37:18,908 --> 00:37:19,128
Hectate?

800
00:37:19,978 --> 00:37:20,238
What's it?

801
00:37:20,258 --> 00:37:20,758
What's the name?

802
00:37:20,758 --> 00:37:22,848
Hecate.

803
00:37:23,938 --> 00:37:27,848
She's, um, her symbol is
often represented as keys.

804
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:30,908
Like, uh, those old, you know,

805
00:37:31,208 --> 00:37:31,678
I would like to.

806
00:37:31,978 --> 00:37:34,373
keys that you see that are like, yeah.

807
00:37:34,803 --> 00:37:38,523
So when people wear those as
talismans or as symbols, they're

808
00:37:38,553 --> 00:37:40,223
often connecting it with Hekate.

809
00:37:41,053 --> 00:37:45,283
And, um, and then they're,
you know, moving their hands

810
00:37:45,293 --> 00:37:46,943
over his body like this.

811
00:37:47,418 --> 00:37:47,798
Yeah.

812
00:37:48,098 --> 00:37:51,553
That's very much like a
Reiki type of healing.

813
00:37:52,583 --> 00:37:55,913
For those who practice Reiki and
energy work, there's a lot of that.

814
00:37:55,933 --> 00:37:57,088
That's what that looks like.

815
00:37:57,388 --> 00:37:57,728
Ah,

816
00:37:57,853 --> 00:38:00,923
was ever curious what it might look
like to go into a Reiki session,

817
00:38:01,578 --> 00:38:01,898
that's

818
00:38:02,463 --> 00:38:03,178
that's what they're doing.

819
00:38:03,478 --> 00:38:04,288
just watch the scene.

820
00:38:04,678 --> 00:38:05,198
Watch that one.

821
00:38:06,603 --> 00:38:08,383
You know, and hopefully you're
not dead while it's happening.

822
00:38:08,518 --> 00:38:08,658
Yeah.

823
00:38:08,658 --> 00:38:08,958
Right.

824
00:38:09,643 --> 00:38:09,813
yeah.

825
00:38:10,173 --> 00:38:11,663
Anyway, some cool little things there.

826
00:38:11,888 --> 00:38:16,488
And then they did talk about when she's
making the potion for the pancake syrup.

827
00:38:17,371 --> 00:38:19,308
banishing spell to get rid of the sheriff.

828
00:38:19,788 --> 00:38:22,148
Julie's talking about the Eye of Newt.

829
00:38:22,483 --> 00:38:28,088
You often hear about Eye of
Newt in a, you know, witch's

830
00:38:28,088 --> 00:38:29,738
spell or a cauldron or whatever.

831
00:38:29,738 --> 00:38:30,563
And it's actually just really fun.

832
00:38:30,596 --> 00:38:36,713
So of recipes and grimoires
from actual witches, which

833
00:38:36,723 --> 00:38:38,253
I actually did just see one.

834
00:38:38,708 --> 00:38:44,143
Um, it was like a 400 year old
actual witch's grimoire I got

835
00:38:44,153 --> 00:38:46,063
to see at a rare book event.

836
00:38:47,193 --> 00:38:48,463
yeah, handwritten.

837
00:38:49,433 --> 00:38:50,553
and it had a curse.

838
00:38:51,288 --> 00:38:55,418
Lined into it, so we were not allowed to
take pictures of it because it was cursed.

839
00:38:55,488 --> 00:38:57,248
So, didn't want that.

840
00:38:57,988 --> 00:39:01,698
um, it actually said on the
grimoire, uh, Book of Recipes.

841
00:39:02,028 --> 00:39:04,848
And they were witches spells.

842
00:39:05,228 --> 00:39:08,058
Um, but when they say Eye of Newt,
they're talking about mustard seed.

843
00:39:08,218 --> 00:39:11,128
So, just a little fun fact for ya.

844
00:39:11,458 --> 00:39:12,258
Let me jump in here.

845
00:39:12,258 --> 00:39:15,038
How often do you make a spell
or a potion or whatever?

846
00:39:15,808 --> 00:39:19,378
I have not dabbled in
making my own spells.

847
00:39:20,078 --> 00:39:21,618
Although I would really like to.

848
00:39:22,818 --> 00:39:25,468
Most of the time I'm just researching
what other people have done and

849
00:39:25,468 --> 00:39:26,968
trying to figure out like, oh.

850
00:39:27,918 --> 00:39:31,988
The thing to remember about making
spells or anything like that is, there

851
00:39:32,048 --> 00:39:35,338
are certain things that have been
handed down generation to generation

852
00:39:35,348 --> 00:39:37,898
for however many hundreds of years.

853
00:39:38,398 --> 00:39:39,433
And you have to remember that.

854
00:39:39,433 --> 00:39:44,663
I believe in some part that this
wouldn't have been widely known

855
00:39:44,673 --> 00:39:46,663
or handed down for no reason,

856
00:39:46,968 --> 00:39:47,268
Yeah.

857
00:39:47,548 --> 00:39:47,898
Yeah.

858
00:39:47,943 --> 00:39:52,123
Like people to say, Eye of Newt, or
you need a green candle for this spell.

859
00:39:52,813 --> 00:39:56,903
There is something to be said about
using what's in the spell because Someone

860
00:39:57,198 --> 00:40:02,608
has tried it, tested it, and it must
have been proven somewhat effective.

861
00:40:02,908 --> 00:40:03,308
Yeah.

862
00:40:03,788 --> 00:40:07,428
And then on the other side of that, making
your own spells is a lot like Sally,

863
00:40:07,468 --> 00:40:11,368
the young Sally, which is just, as long
as you're infusing your intention into

864
00:40:11,368 --> 00:40:13,118
the spell, that's what matters most.

865
00:40:13,128 --> 00:40:16,408
So it can be whatever you've got
lying around the house, whatever

866
00:40:16,418 --> 00:40:20,008
you've got in your yard, whatever
you happen to forage on your next

867
00:40:20,088 --> 00:40:22,348
hike, can use that in a spell.

868
00:40:23,118 --> 00:40:23,518
All right.

869
00:40:23,538 --> 00:40:24,058
Good to know.

870
00:40:24,098 --> 00:40:30,158
So you don't have to go get the eye of
new and frog's tongue and monkey blood.

871
00:40:30,483 --> 00:40:34,663
you know, isn't even probably
what it sounds like it was.

872
00:40:35,423 --> 00:40:35,493
don't know.

873
00:40:36,553 --> 00:40:40,333
Frog's tongue might be a plant
that looks like a frog's tongue.

874
00:40:40,623 --> 00:40:42,003
And so they call it that, you know.

875
00:40:42,368 --> 00:40:42,838
I see.

876
00:40:42,928 --> 00:40:43,488
I see.

877
00:40:43,493 --> 00:40:44,553
As scary as you might think.

878
00:40:45,798 --> 00:40:46,588
So tell me more.

879
00:40:46,628 --> 00:40:48,728
You got, you had a couple more
things there on practical magic.

880
00:40:49,613 --> 00:40:50,273
Oh my goodness.

881
00:40:50,433 --> 00:40:51,543
So much.

882
00:40:51,673 --> 00:40:52,793
This movie is amazing.

883
00:40:52,833 --> 00:41:00,358
And I just, uh, I love Okay, so
I wanted to point out the ants.

884
00:41:00,398 --> 00:41:02,158
You see them in several scenes, right?

885
00:41:02,188 --> 00:41:05,818
They're spinning and they have
cabinets in their home full

886
00:41:05,818 --> 00:41:07,698
of wool and things like that.

887
00:41:08,148 --> 00:41:12,438
And I wanted to point out that
a lot of people of witchcraft, a

888
00:41:12,438 --> 00:41:16,108
lot of women accused of witchcraft
in history, were crafts women.

889
00:41:16,548 --> 00:41:16,828
Huh?

890
00:41:16,858 --> 00:41:22,308
were artists, they were, you know,
um, they had a skill of some kind.

891
00:41:22,338 --> 00:41:23,158
Like these women are.

892
00:41:24,793 --> 00:41:28,743
And, um, spinning wool or doing any
kind of spinning work where there's

893
00:41:28,743 --> 00:41:35,343
like the spinning wheel, uh, is a great
way to get into a trance and to do

894
00:41:36,943 --> 00:41:39,563
or kind of like scrying in a mirror.

895
00:41:40,153 --> 00:41:43,018
You know how when you look at
water and the sun is just spinning?

896
00:41:43,278 --> 00:41:47,208
kind of sparkling on the water and
it just creates this kind of effect.

897
00:41:48,188 --> 00:41:52,158
Staring into that for a few minutes
until your eyes kind of gloss over,

898
00:41:52,528 --> 00:41:54,408
that's what scrying feels like.

899
00:41:54,438 --> 00:41:55,568
That's what people are doing.

900
00:41:55,578 --> 00:41:59,778
They're like using that to tap
into a different sense so they

901
00:41:59,778 --> 00:42:02,848
can channel messages of whatever
it is that they're trying to get.

902
00:42:03,228 --> 00:42:03,618
Interesting.

903
00:42:04,588 --> 00:42:06,318
These ants are spinning wool.

904
00:42:06,348 --> 00:42:08,528
They're probably making
money off of their wool.

905
00:42:08,528 --> 00:42:13,338
That's probably like how they make a
living, but they also can do witchcraft

906
00:42:13,408 --> 00:42:14,918
while doing their, their work.

907
00:42:15,078 --> 00:42:15,378
So

908
00:42:15,678 --> 00:42:16,178
Wow.

909
00:42:16,188 --> 00:42:16,648
Okay.

910
00:42:16,948 --> 00:42:17,928
just going to point that out.

911
00:42:18,298 --> 00:42:18,738
I like that.

912
00:42:18,768 --> 00:42:19,608
That's a, yeah,

913
00:42:21,748 --> 00:42:23,988
and that's, that's the
best of what I have.

914
00:42:24,178 --> 00:42:25,458
that's the best of what you have.

915
00:42:25,458 --> 00:42:25,788
All right.

916
00:42:25,788 --> 00:42:29,118
Well, I'll tell you, I loved it.

917
00:42:29,838 --> 00:42:31,373
I haven't seen this movie in a while.

918
00:42:32,308 --> 00:42:35,248
Um, let me think here.

919
00:42:35,248 --> 00:42:37,238
It was, it was fun to
watch the bad guy pay.

920
00:42:39,088 --> 00:42:42,058
Uh, the Margaritas scene.

921
00:42:42,058 --> 00:42:42,543
Iconic.

922
00:42:43,878 --> 00:42:46,798
Actually, that's all I gotta say.

923
00:42:48,038 --> 00:42:48,638
That's all I gotta say.

924
00:42:49,158 --> 00:42:49,878
I mean, it is,

925
00:42:49,928 --> 00:42:50,398
favorite.

926
00:42:50,958 --> 00:42:54,348
I mean, practic, it, you got, you do have
to remember that practical magic is not

927
00:42:54,348 --> 00:42:59,008
just about the casting of the spells, but
it's casting out things that hold us back.

928
00:42:59,548 --> 00:43:02,638
Uh, and embracing the magic within
our own lives, I think is what

929
00:43:03,528 --> 00:43:04,098
Yes,

930
00:43:04,248 --> 00:43:04,938
boils down to.

931
00:43:04,938 --> 00:43:05,658
And that's what I saw.

932
00:43:05,658 --> 00:43:06,408
That's what I saw.

933
00:43:07,458 --> 00:43:08,238
This movie holds up.

934
00:43:08,238 --> 00:43:09,528
It's gonna hold up forever like this.

935
00:43:10,108 --> 00:43:10,743
This is one of those that's.

936
00:43:10,818 --> 00:43:11,418
think so.

937
00:43:11,768 --> 00:43:14,128
Yeah, I think it'll
continue to be a favorite.

938
00:43:14,608 --> 00:43:18,168
And, um, and personally, you know,
even though I love the horror movie

939
00:43:18,168 --> 00:43:21,188
genre, I do, I have props respect.

940
00:43:21,918 --> 00:43:26,158
I, I had to put this movie into
our lineup because, um, for me

941
00:43:26,158 --> 00:43:29,818
personally, it feels like a much
more accurate depiction of what

942
00:43:29,818 --> 00:43:31,798
witchcraft feels like, at least for me.

943
00:43:33,333 --> 00:43:34,193
That's what we're going for.

944
00:43:34,258 --> 00:43:35,268
That's something to be afraid of.

945
00:43:35,288 --> 00:43:38,638
And the town eventually realizes
that they don't have to be afraid

946
00:43:38,638 --> 00:43:41,638
of the Owen sisters, that actually
having them around is pretty helpful.

947
00:43:43,403 --> 00:43:44,483
Let's get to our next movie.

948
00:43:45,338 --> 00:43:45,958
Yes.

949
00:43:46,248 --> 00:43:48,168
And you hadn't seen
this one before, right?

950
00:43:48,873 --> 00:43:53,043
I might've seen like pieces of it,
but just never knew that it came from

951
00:43:53,043 --> 00:43:54,473
this movie, like it might've been.

952
00:43:57,683 --> 00:44:00,393
Long story short, no, I
have not seen this movie.

953
00:44:00,878 --> 00:44:01,868
And I love that.

954
00:44:01,968 --> 00:44:05,238
I love that you hadn't seen
it because just makes me so

955
00:44:05,238 --> 00:44:08,098
excited to be like, here it is!

956
00:44:08,818 --> 00:44:09,898
Watch this great movie!

957
00:44:10,733 --> 00:44:12,523
Oh, for everybody else
out there, buckle up.

958
00:44:13,583 --> 00:44:18,593
We're about to dive in to the
1987 supernatural horror slash

959
00:44:18,593 --> 00:44:20,553
comedy, The Witches of Eastwick.

960
00:44:21,373 --> 00:44:24,943
And George Miller directed it.

961
00:44:25,073 --> 00:44:27,073
I mean, it's based on a book too.

962
00:44:27,093 --> 00:44:28,763
John Updike wrote a book on this.

963
00:44:30,853 --> 00:44:32,493
So you already got some
big names involved.

964
00:44:33,498 --> 00:44:33,788
Yes.

965
00:44:34,583 --> 00:44:39,423
Off the top, I didn't realize that
the rest of this cast, what is

966
00:44:39,423 --> 00:44:40,653
there, like five Oscar winners?

967
00:44:40,663 --> 00:44:40,973
Or at least

968
00:44:41,638 --> 00:44:42,098
Yeah,

969
00:44:42,398 --> 00:44:47,053
nominated Jack Nicholson, Cher,
Susan Sarandon, Michelle Pfeiffer.

970
00:44:47,063 --> 00:44:49,753
Like everybody in this
movie is incredible.

971
00:44:50,648 --> 00:44:50,908
right?

972
00:44:51,548 --> 00:44:55,178
I mean, I was a little bit sad
that we didn't get, we didn't, um,

973
00:44:55,418 --> 00:44:58,568
maneuver our way to get to talk to
Susan Sarandon when she was at FanX,

974
00:44:58,628 --> 00:45:01,828
but, um, we did get to talk to a red
headed witch, so I'm good with it.

975
00:45:01,923 --> 00:45:02,353
Yeah.

976
00:45:02,353 --> 00:45:02,583
Right.

977
00:45:02,598 --> 00:45:02,883
happy.

978
00:45:03,018 --> 00:45:08,868
But, some names that were considered for
this movie, um, like, even in the lineup

979
00:45:08,868 --> 00:45:15,178
it already has was Jane Fonda, Meryl
Streep, Angelica Huston, Goldie Hawn.

980
00:45:15,588 --> 00:45:16,978
So, I mean, could you imagine?

981
00:45:17,443 --> 00:45:18,373
Oh, it's wild.

982
00:45:19,263 --> 00:45:19,893
It's wild.

983
00:45:19,913 --> 00:45:24,453
The people that were involved in
this and, and honestly watching the

984
00:45:24,453 --> 00:45:27,183
movie, like you, you're watching it.

985
00:45:27,193 --> 00:45:27,853
You're like, Oh yeah.

986
00:45:27,903 --> 00:45:30,913
Uh, Cher that, that couldn't
have been cast any better.

987
00:45:30,953 --> 00:45:31,363
Oh yeah.

988
00:45:31,633 --> 00:45:32,223
Michelle Pfeiffer.

989
00:45:32,223 --> 00:45:33,583
Oh, that couldn't have
been cast any better.

990
00:45:33,823 --> 00:45:35,173
Like there's nobody better.

991
00:45:35,173 --> 00:45:36,773
They played the roles perfectly.

992
00:45:37,363 --> 00:45:39,913
Uh, I do know that when
they were originally cast.

993
00:45:40,538 --> 00:45:43,728
I think Cher and Michelle Pfeiffer
had the roles swapped maybe?

994
00:45:44,008 --> 00:45:44,578
Yeah,

995
00:45:44,798 --> 00:45:45,198
Yeah,

996
00:45:45,298 --> 00:45:45,468
I'd

997
00:45:45,498 --> 00:45:45,848
yeah.

998
00:45:45,908 --> 00:45:51,128
that and and I think it was share
that said, No, I want to play Alex I

999
00:45:51,148 --> 00:45:54,848
think we should switch because Yeah,
it ended up working out for the best.

1000
00:45:54,888 --> 00:45:58,138
And I, I mean, I'm sad to
say there was some contention

1001
00:45:58,138 --> 00:45:59,708
about Cher being a part of it.

1002
00:46:00,148 --> 00:46:05,428
Apparently the director was getting
a lot of like, uh, pressure from

1003
00:46:05,428 --> 00:46:07,318
producers when making this movie.

1004
00:46:07,318 --> 00:46:10,338
And so there was all kinds of,
you know, uh, contention and

1005
00:46:10,338 --> 00:46:11,848
he was like, I don't want Cher.

1006
00:46:12,658 --> 00:46:16,953
And, uh, You have to love Cher
and the story that they tell

1007
00:46:16,953 --> 00:46:21,823
because, I mean, she's like,
listen, I've won Academy Awards.

1008
00:46:22,543 --> 00:46:26,433
You can it or leave it, but I'm,
I'm in this movie, you know,

1009
00:46:26,433 --> 00:46:32,573
just like totally playing the,
I know my worth And I love that.

1010
00:46:33,668 --> 00:46:37,488
Yeah, she does that and does
it, does it, uh, does it well.

1011
00:46:37,488 --> 00:46:43,028
And then I've also heard that on set
if she wasn't, if she didn't have

1012
00:46:43,028 --> 00:46:45,858
speaking lines, she has to be released.

1013
00:46:45,858 --> 00:46:47,328
Like she wanted to be out of it.

1014
00:46:47,758 --> 00:46:49,058
She denies that, but.

1015
00:46:50,933 --> 00:46:55,412
So Nicole Kidman and Cher, maybe
a little bit of divas on these, on

1016
00:46:55,412 --> 00:46:58,541
the set of these movies will forgive
them because their performance

1017
00:46:58,841 --> 00:46:59,688
Exactly, exactly.

1018
00:46:59,918 --> 00:47:00,232
So.

1019
00:47:00,548 --> 00:47:01,385
in the end.

1020
00:47:01,385 --> 00:47:01,553
So.

1021
00:47:01,853 --> 00:47:07,203
I heard also on this that Cher and
Michelle, uh, Michelle Pfeiffer,

1022
00:47:07,243 --> 00:47:08,633
they weren't, they didn't get along.

1023
00:47:08,633 --> 00:47:11,233
I believe the two of those
didn't get along at first.

1024
00:47:11,263 --> 00:47:16,233
And it was because of that weird casting.

1025
00:47:16,463 --> 00:47:20,623
And after they finally sat down and
talked to, talked to each other,

1026
00:47:20,623 --> 00:47:21,743
they found out it wasn't them.

1027
00:47:21,743 --> 00:47:25,573
It was a producer that
had kind of messed up.

1028
00:47:26,158 --> 00:47:26,588
Yeah.

1029
00:47:27,303 --> 00:47:28,103
Lots of problems.

1030
00:47:28,103 --> 00:47:32,003
Lots of problems, uh,
according to the internet.

1031
00:47:32,963 --> 00:47:33,093
Yeah.

1032
00:47:33,778 --> 00:47:38,878
well, I appreciate that through all
the trial and obstacles they must

1033
00:47:38,878 --> 00:47:43,358
have had to fight to make this movie
and to get it done, that they did.

1034
00:47:43,438 --> 00:47:45,928
And that it was made
and we get to enjoy it.

1035
00:47:46,108 --> 00:47:48,848
In fact, just about everybody I
talk to when I tell them about the

1036
00:47:48,848 --> 00:47:52,348
Witch Movie Project, they're like,
are you doing Witches of Eastwick?

1037
00:47:52,578 --> 00:47:54,098
And I'm like, of course!

1038
00:47:55,668 --> 00:47:57,038
So it must be a favorite.

1039
00:47:57,378 --> 00:48:00,958
It did really well when it came out, so.

1040
00:48:01,423 --> 00:48:02,413
Let's break down the plot.

1041
00:48:02,713 --> 00:48:03,193
Let's do it.

1042
00:48:03,493 --> 00:48:05,163
Three single ladies in Eastwick.

1043
00:48:05,243 --> 00:48:07,843
Alex, Jane, Suki.

1044
00:48:08,273 --> 00:48:08,453
Mm-Hmm?

1045
00:48:10,343 --> 00:48:12,163
They're feeling pretty down
about their love lives.

1046
00:48:12,163 --> 00:48:15,543
Here we go again with
the love and the witches.

1047
00:48:16,573 --> 00:48:22,183
Until they basically, they do, don't
basically, they conjure up a guy named

1048
00:48:22,193 --> 00:48:24,393
Daryl Van Horn, played by Jack Nicholson.

1049
00:48:25,083 --> 00:48:25,573
Now,

1050
00:48:28,343 --> 00:48:31,053
sleaze, that's the only word
I, that's, that's the top,

1051
00:48:31,123 --> 00:48:32,263
my gosh.

1052
00:48:32,263 --> 00:48:32,773
Yeah.

1053
00:48:33,073 --> 00:48:37,333
but he waltzes into town, takes
over this mansion and seduces

1054
00:48:37,553 --> 00:48:37,913
them.

1055
00:48:39,443 --> 00:48:42,033
all of them, not just one of them,
all of them in different ways.

1056
00:48:42,923 --> 00:48:43,393
Uh,

1057
00:48:44,583 --> 00:48:44,913
Oh,

1058
00:48:45,003 --> 00:48:48,413
it takes a dark turn because they
figured out what, who Daryl really is.

1059
00:48:49,088 --> 00:48:51,838
And gotta take matters
into their own hands.

1060
00:48:51,848 --> 00:48:53,323
That's pretty much the plot of this movie.

1061
00:48:53,623 --> 00:48:58,950
Yeah, yeah, which is interesting
because we watched, um, The Witch,

1062
00:48:58,950 --> 00:49:01,073
or Vitch, on another episode.

1063
00:49:01,353 --> 00:49:05,623
If you haven't listened, go back and
listen to that one, which kind of takes

1064
00:49:05,633 --> 00:49:10,963
the idea of witches, uh, the, the fear
that people had about witches was that

1065
00:49:10,963 --> 00:49:14,668
they were the devil's book, you know,
there was the same kind of plot lines

1066
00:49:14,668 --> 00:49:18,008
happening in all the witch trials,
which were like, you sign the devil's

1067
00:49:18,008 --> 00:49:23,888
book, you, you know, you're one of his,
um, cubbin, you, you know, of that.

1068
00:49:24,208 --> 00:49:25,888
It made it into a horror movie.

1069
00:49:26,368 --> 00:49:27,418
Like, what if this was real?

1070
00:49:27,418 --> 00:49:28,488
What would this look like?

1071
00:49:29,178 --> 00:49:33,488
And it's almost like this movie
took it into a modern age, the same

1072
00:49:33,488 --> 00:49:39,198
idea of like, These three women are
caught up in the witches, in the

1073
00:49:39,198 --> 00:49:44,488
devil's lair, and you know, they
got seduced by the devil, right?

1074
00:49:46,468 --> 00:49:51,398
I wonder if We've talked about
Three Witches and the Devil, um,

1075
00:49:52,588 --> 00:49:56,358
uh, Val Pergishnot over in Germany.

1076
00:49:57,038 --> 00:50:01,598
I wonder if there's any, you know,
resemblance, semblance, whatever,

1077
00:50:01,598 --> 00:50:06,288
symbolism here that matches to
that in this story about Eastwick?

1078
00:50:06,408 --> 00:50:10,368
Do you see any common denominator
there other than the Three Witches?

1079
00:50:10,658 --> 00:50:11,938
Like, that's all I can go on.

1080
00:50:12,408 --> 00:50:12,978
Um,

1081
00:50:13,278 --> 00:50:19,698
well, yeah, it's interesting that The
Vow of Pergusnacht is, is this, um,

1082
00:50:20,428 --> 00:50:26,228
celebration, like, that originated with
getting rid of witches, then has been

1083
00:50:26,608 --> 00:50:32,098
transferred into something where the pagan
community, like, celebrates that time.

1084
00:50:33,288 --> 00:50:39,258
And the plot of this movie kind of, don't
know, kind of coming full circle, almost.

1085
00:50:41,048 --> 00:50:45,988
These women finding their powers
together, you know, through this devil

1086
00:50:45,998 --> 00:50:50,268
character and then being, and then
flipping the whole script into being

1087
00:50:50,278 --> 00:50:55,908
released and independent from the
devil, coming into their own, right?

1088
00:50:55,998 --> 00:50:56,488
hmm.

1089
00:50:57,508 --> 00:50:57,988
Interesting.

1090
00:50:58,958 --> 00:51:00,678
Anyway, yeah,

1091
00:51:00,978 --> 00:51:04,598
in this movie couldn't have been played
by anybody else other than Jack Nicklaus.

1092
00:51:05,208 --> 00:51:05,608
Like, that's

1093
00:51:06,378 --> 00:51:06,968
I'll be honest.

1094
00:51:07,018 --> 00:51:10,968
Okay, so when I was a kid, I used to watch
this movie when it was like on TV, right?

1095
00:51:11,248 --> 00:51:12,868
So it was usually the censored version.

1096
00:51:14,068 --> 00:51:18,638
I did not a hundred percent
understand as a kid what was going on.

1097
00:51:20,333 --> 00:51:25,873
I do remember thinking to myself,
guy's not really attractive physically.

1098
00:51:26,803 --> 00:51:29,893
now as an adult, I'm like, well, he
has a certain suaveness about him.

1099
00:51:29,893 --> 00:51:32,713
I can kind of see the, you
know, the voice and all of that.

1100
00:51:33,203 --> 00:51:38,323
But as a kid, I was like, what
these women see in this guy.

1101
00:51:39,133 --> 00:51:46,533
And then remember being really confused
about who is this guy's girlfriend.

1102
00:51:46,868 --> 00:51:47,198
Hmm,

1103
00:51:47,643 --> 00:51:51,603
I remember asking myself, like,
wait, so all three of them are his

1104
00:51:51,603 --> 00:51:54,973
girlfriend, but they all don't seem
to mind that they're all sharing him?

1105
00:51:55,793 --> 00:51:57,313
so confused as a kid.

1106
00:51:58,063 --> 00:52:01,683
it's so interesting how my, like,
little kid brain and then bringing it

1107
00:52:01,683 --> 00:52:06,613
into my adult self being like, yeah.

1108
00:52:06,968 --> 00:52:08,528
1987.

1109
00:52:08,618 --> 00:52:13,808
Once again, I have to bring up the time
period, but polyamory was not very, still

1110
00:52:14,108 --> 00:52:14,858
Wasn't a thing.

1111
00:52:15,618 --> 00:52:16,368
not very favored.

1112
00:52:16,368 --> 00:52:21,668
Now if you talk to general consensus,
but it's probably a whole lot

1113
00:52:21,668 --> 00:52:25,538
more open to now than it was then.

1114
00:52:25,978 --> 00:52:29,888
So you being confused on that,
you probably weren't the only one.

1115
00:52:30,188 --> 00:52:31,988
, you know, even as a kid,
you weren't the only one.

1116
00:52:31,988 --> 00:52:32,438
That's the

1117
00:52:32,538 --> 00:52:34,698
like, but they're all okay
with it for some reason.

1118
00:52:35,508 --> 00:52:36,218
was, yeah,

1119
00:52:36,518 --> 00:52:36,729
weird part.

1120
00:52:36,838 --> 00:52:37,558
it was eye opening.

1121
00:52:37,558 --> 00:52:38,668
I think it was good for me.

1122
00:52:38,678 --> 00:52:42,868
It was good for me to keep an open mind
as a, as a, you know, kid growing up.

1123
00:52:42,878 --> 00:52:44,088
I was like, oh, okay.

1124
00:52:44,208 --> 00:52:45,318
To each their own, I suppose.

1125
00:52:46,738 --> 00:52:48,288
Like, I mean, what else
are you going to do?

1126
00:52:48,768 --> 00:52:49,058
Yeah.

1127
00:52:49,988 --> 00:52:51,878
So, oh,

1128
00:52:52,053 --> 00:52:55,373
the way that my kid self thought
about Jack Nicholson and, and yeah,

1129
00:52:55,433 --> 00:53:00,473
perfect, perfect for this role as, you
know, which is essentially the devil.

1130
00:53:00,473 --> 00:53:02,603
I mean, I don't think they're trying
to hide the fact that he's supposed

1131
00:53:02,603 --> 00:53:05,193
to play the devil or a devil.

1132
00:53:05,203 --> 00:53:07,643
He even says in like one of
the opening scenes, he's like,

1133
00:53:07,643 --> 00:53:09,073
I'm just a horny little devil.

1134
00:53:09,903 --> 00:53:10,558
And, um,

1135
00:53:10,858 --> 00:53:11,778
the seduction scene.

1136
00:53:11,778 --> 00:53:13,108
I think it's when he's laying on the bed.

1137
00:53:13,108 --> 00:53:14,918
And oh, what a great scene that is.

1138
00:53:15,423 --> 00:53:16,093
so good.

1139
00:53:16,093 --> 00:53:23,283
I have seen clips and recordings of Cher's
speech in that scene, and it is still one

1140
00:53:23,283 --> 00:53:26,123
of my favorite movie speeches of all time.

1141
00:53:26,783 --> 00:53:29,323
The one where she goes off on him.

1142
00:53:29,603 --> 00:53:30,833
You're repulsive.

1143
00:53:31,083 --> 00:53:34,528
You're, you know, she just lays into

1144
00:53:34,828 --> 00:53:35,288
Oh yeah.

1145
00:53:35,413 --> 00:53:40,833
how unattractive and how sleazy he
is, which I love because I was like,

1146
00:53:40,923 --> 00:53:42,073
I'm thinking all the same things.

1147
00:53:42,418 --> 00:53:45,048
I'm like, there's no way that
I would have anything to do

1148
00:53:45,048 --> 00:53:46,058
with this man, if it was me.

1149
00:53:47,318 --> 00:53:53,398
And yet somehow he is so charming
and he gives his speech about

1150
00:53:53,398 --> 00:53:57,998
how you do the dishes, the
dishes will just be dirty again.

1151
00:53:58,438 --> 00:54:00,948
If you clean up, they'll
just be dirty again.

1152
00:54:00,978 --> 00:54:02,798
If you make the beds, they'll
just be slept in again.

1153
00:54:02,798 --> 00:54:05,548
You know, he just gives a
speech where it's like, all that

1154
00:54:05,548 --> 00:54:07,678
stuff you do doesn't matter.

1155
00:54:07,688 --> 00:54:10,618
You might as well just do what
you want and what you need to do.

1156
00:54:10,938 --> 00:54:12,168
Let's talk about that speech.

1157
00:54:12,168 --> 00:54:13,298
That speech about women.

1158
00:54:13,428 --> 00:54:14,418
That's the one you're talking about.

1159
00:54:14,418 --> 00:54:14,668
I think

1160
00:54:14,968 --> 00:54:15,498
Yeah,

1161
00:54:16,358 --> 00:54:19,238
to me that he, he hit peak Nicholson here.

1162
00:54:19,953 --> 00:54:23,598
It's, it's the kind of monologue
really, it'll make it like literally

1163
00:54:23,608 --> 00:54:24,958
it made me say, did he just say that?

1164
00:54:25,178 --> 00:54:25,428
Like.

1165
00:54:25,898 --> 00:54:26,828
That's what it was,

1166
00:54:27,148 --> 00:54:27,518
I know.

1167
00:54:27,668 --> 00:54:27,948
and

1168
00:54:28,878 --> 00:54:31,108
I think he's seducing her with words.

1169
00:54:31,468 --> 00:54:35,618
he is, in all of his sleazy glory, he is.

1170
00:54:35,988 --> 00:54:39,588
Literally, like, he delivers a
monologue, it's both Here's the thing

1171
00:54:39,588 --> 00:54:43,058
with this one, it's both infuriating
and fascinating at the same time.

1172
00:54:43,958 --> 00:54:46,778
Goes on about how men are scared
of powerful women, how they

1173
00:54:46,778 --> 00:54:49,978
call them witches, and burn them
at the stake because you can't

1174
00:54:49,978 --> 00:54:51,318
handle your own insecurities.

1175
00:54:51,548 --> 00:54:53,488
Still going on today,
by the way, that's still

1176
00:54:53,498 --> 00:54:53,838
sure.

1177
00:54:53,973 --> 00:54:57,743
We're doing different ways of burning
witches today, but it's this speech.

1178
00:54:57,743 --> 00:54:58,588
It's a wild ride.

1179
00:54:58,793 --> 00:55:01,793
It makes you basically want to like,
I wanted to throw something at my

1180
00:55:01,863 --> 00:55:04,143
screen, but I wanted to applaud.

1181
00:55:04,143 --> 00:55:05,103
I wanted to clap at the same time.

1182
00:55:06,338 --> 00:55:06,668
I know.

1183
00:55:06,668 --> 00:55:10,218
And he says, marriage, good
for the man, kills the woman.

1184
00:55:10,303 --> 00:55:11,173
It does.

1185
00:55:11,883 --> 00:55:12,393
He does.

1186
00:55:12,393 --> 00:55:18,033
It's, and it's so over the top, but he
is literally in this moment, I think

1187
00:55:18,033 --> 00:55:23,133
he's channeling every devil character he
ever plays previous to this and, and, and

1188
00:55:23,133 --> 00:55:25,923
after this, because it's all right here.

1189
00:55:25,923 --> 00:55:30,513
Like to me, like I said, peak,
peak, Nicholson in the monologue.

1190
00:55:30,573 --> 00:55:31,173
Like it's,

1191
00:55:31,258 --> 00:55:32,078
Fantastic.

1192
00:55:32,083 --> 00:55:39,443
it is, it's a great speech, but at the
same time it's fucked up , you know?

1193
00:55:39,488 --> 00:55:40,078
I know.

1194
00:55:40,178 --> 00:55:40,718
I know.

1195
00:55:40,748 --> 00:55:46,888
And, and yeah, I mean, the reason
it's so enticing and, I mean, you

1196
00:55:46,888 --> 00:55:51,793
can see Cher's character, Alex, and
she's just, she's not really reacting.

1197
00:55:52,093 --> 00:55:52,363
Yeah.

1198
00:55:52,398 --> 00:55:57,923
leaned back and she's just listening
and she's like, Who are you?

1199
00:55:59,353 --> 00:56:03,683
Because it's, it's, it's like all
these things he's saying, not wrong,

1200
00:56:04,773 --> 00:56:05,643
He's mansplaining.

1201
00:56:05,643 --> 00:56:05,733
He's

1202
00:56:06,843 --> 00:56:10,153
he's mansplaining a woman's,
um, experience, right?

1203
00:56:10,578 --> 00:56:13,893
mansplaining to women,
how the world works.

1204
00:56:14,768 --> 00:56:17,468
and simultaneously trying
to get in their pants.

1205
00:56:18,508 --> 00:56:18,978
The what?

1206
00:56:19,708 --> 00:56:20,348
Like, that's what it is.

1207
00:56:20,913 --> 00:56:25,303
Which I have to point out is very
contradictory to then when they decide

1208
00:56:25,333 --> 00:56:30,643
they need to, and by the way, they very
gently Just propose that maybe they all

1209
00:56:30,643 --> 00:56:33,793
take a break from hanging out with each
other when things get a little crazy.

1210
00:56:35,023 --> 00:56:40,773
and we'll talk about like that, but when,
when the, when the three women gently

1211
00:56:40,773 --> 00:56:43,403
suggest, you know, we should take a
break from hanging out with each other.

1212
00:56:43,433 --> 00:56:46,473
Obviously, we have a lot of power
together when we're together,

1213
00:56:47,183 --> 00:56:48,353
things are getting a little crazy.

1214
00:56:48,393 --> 00:56:49,303
Let's just take a break.

1215
00:56:49,313 --> 00:56:51,363
Let's all, you know, not see
each other for a little while.

1216
00:56:52,193 --> 00:56:53,483
Um, reasonable.

1217
00:56:53,943 --> 00:56:54,823
Perfectly reasonable.

1218
00:56:55,513 --> 00:57:03,213
And yet, this is when Daryl Van Horn takes
this tantrum, and he's like, literally,

1219
00:57:03,213 --> 00:57:06,853
when Alex comes to see him and talk to
him, he is literally throwing a tantrum.

1220
00:57:07,033 --> 00:57:11,223
He's ironing, and he's like, I'm
ironing because nobody else will do it!

1221
00:57:11,993 --> 00:57:15,013
And then he's like, what do all men want?

1222
00:57:15,203 --> 00:57:18,203
And he's stomping his
feet all over the floor.

1223
00:57:18,233 --> 00:57:24,883
And he's like, I just want a little
a little a little appreciation.

1224
00:57:25,033 --> 00:57:31,293
And I'm like, is this like opposite of
his speech from the beginning, which is

1225
00:57:31,313 --> 00:57:34,823
that women need to be appreciated and
that women, you know, you're holding

1226
00:57:34,823 --> 00:57:36,323
up the world and blah, blah, blah.

1227
00:57:36,903 --> 00:57:41,193
And I'm like, so now he's just acting
like every other man that these.

1228
00:57:41,543 --> 00:57:45,113
Women have probably experienced in their
lifetime, which is like, wait, what?

1229
00:57:47,918 --> 00:57:53,318
And on that, I think it's,
the movie itself is just a

1230
00:57:53,318 --> 00:57:54,908
critique on those attitudes.

1231
00:57:55,338 --> 00:57:58,938
Like, it's, they wanted him to go
over the top like that, I think.

1232
00:57:59,348 --> 00:58:04,868
And it comes back around to him
in a satisfying way, basically.

1233
00:58:04,938 --> 00:58:09,178
And then you find out, you know, the
real stars of the movie are Cher, Serena,

1234
00:58:09,368 --> 00:58:15,198
Pfeiffer, the witches, And you find
out that they are powerful women and

1235
00:58:15,198 --> 00:58:16,458
they are not to be messed with though.

1236
00:58:17,063 --> 00:58:17,523
Right.

1237
00:58:17,633 --> 00:58:17,733
I

1238
00:58:17,908 --> 00:58:18,378
So.

1239
00:58:18,623 --> 00:58:19,633
have a theory about this.

1240
00:58:19,643 --> 00:58:20,723
You tell me what you think.

1241
00:58:20,758 --> 00:58:21,078
Okay.

1242
00:58:22,023 --> 00:58:25,763
I think because in the beginning
they conjure him, right?

1243
00:58:25,763 --> 00:58:30,553
They say, I want a dark,
um, prince on a dark horse.

1244
00:58:30,553 --> 00:58:31,393
I want to

1245
00:58:32,128 --> 00:58:33,668
They even say not too attractive.

1246
00:58:33,728 --> 00:58:34,578
They even lay on them.

1247
00:58:34,643 --> 00:58:35,233
do attractive,

1248
00:58:35,598 --> 00:58:37,213
They, if you, if you

1249
00:58:37,568 --> 00:58:38,913
all right, maybe

1250
00:58:39,028 --> 00:58:42,348
read that back, they literally
describe Jack Nicholson.

1251
00:58:42,578 --> 00:58:43,448
I thought that was great.

1252
00:58:43,548 --> 00:58:44,028
Go ahead.

1253
00:58:44,028 --> 00:58:44,298
Go ahead.

1254
00:58:44,298 --> 00:58:44,368
Yeah.

1255
00:58:44,493 --> 00:58:45,923
So they conjure him up.

1256
00:58:47,203 --> 00:58:53,153
And then he wants the three of them at his
house hanging out and doing their magic.

1257
00:58:53,383 --> 00:58:55,333
He's fascinated by them.

1258
00:58:55,443 --> 00:58:58,703
He's noticing what they've
got going on, right?

1259
00:59:00,193 --> 00:59:03,133
What if he himself is not that powerful?

1260
00:59:03,883 --> 00:59:05,228
What if he needed them?

1261
00:59:07,698 --> 00:59:13,138
And that's why he showed up and he was
like wanting them to be in his vicinity

1262
00:59:13,138 --> 00:59:18,858
and his, his besties because he, he
probably didn't have enough power or

1263
00:59:18,858 --> 00:59:21,008
whatever it was that he possessed.

1264
00:59:21,018 --> 00:59:22,418
He needed them

1265
00:59:23,088 --> 00:59:24,368
They did conjure him up.

1266
00:59:25,048 --> 00:59:25,428
Yeah.

1267
00:59:26,138 --> 00:59:26,788
He came.

1268
00:59:27,703 --> 00:59:30,283
Makes me wonder because he got
so upset when they were like, we

1269
00:59:30,283 --> 00:59:33,423
need to chill, like, we need to
all separate because it's just a

1270
00:59:33,423 --> 00:59:35,393
little too much for what's going on.

1271
00:59:35,393 --> 00:59:36,403
People are getting hurt.

1272
00:59:36,623 --> 00:59:38,053
We don't want people to get hurt.

1273
00:59:38,543 --> 00:59:39,778
That wasn't our intention.

1274
00:59:40,078 --> 00:59:40,528
Yeah.

1275
00:59:40,973 --> 00:59:44,413
And I feel like he probably couldn't
have done any of the magic or any

1276
00:59:44,413 --> 00:59:46,023
of the power that he possessed.

1277
00:59:46,053 --> 00:59:47,463
He couldn't have done it on his own.

1278
00:59:47,493 --> 00:59:48,203
He needed them.

1279
00:59:48,568 --> 00:59:49,198
That's a different take.

1280
00:59:49,323 --> 00:59:49,693
theory.

1281
00:59:49,958 --> 00:59:50,798
That's a different take.

1282
00:59:50,798 --> 00:59:53,178
Now, now we got to go out
there and watch it again.

1283
00:59:53,428 --> 00:59:59,338
We're gonna, hey, watch the movie
again and keep that idea in mind.

1284
00:59:59,348 --> 01:00:00,158
That theory.

1285
01:00:02,098 --> 01:00:02,768
I like that.

1286
01:00:02,798 --> 01:00:03,798
Now you got me thinking, see?

1287
01:00:03,838 --> 01:00:04,858
Now I'm like, hmm.

1288
01:00:05,358 --> 01:00:07,028
Because we've kind of seen that
in some of the other movies.

1289
01:00:07,028 --> 01:00:09,728
We've seen that in a couple of other
movies that we've talked about,

1290
01:00:09,728 --> 01:00:13,638
where basically somebody was sucking
the power off the other ones, and

1291
01:00:13,638 --> 01:00:15,458
that's how they became who they were.

1292
01:00:16,193 --> 01:00:16,293
yeah.

1293
01:00:16,293 --> 01:00:17,671
Why else do witches need covens?

1294
01:00:17,671 --> 01:00:21,845
They need more than, I mean,
let's just look at, um, Disney's

1295
01:00:21,913 --> 01:00:25,672
Agatha All Along series that
they've got going on right now.

1296
01:00:25,672 --> 01:00:30,413
She needed, she needed to get a coven
together to be able to perform as much

1297
01:00:30,423 --> 01:00:32,813
magic as she needed to do the road.

1298
01:00:33,123 --> 01:00:35,033
Anyway, so you need more than one.

1299
01:00:35,063 --> 01:00:37,163
You need, meet a few of you together.

1300
01:00:37,843 --> 01:00:41,358
the movie starts out with these
women talking about, How they're

1301
01:00:41,358 --> 01:00:45,498
really, um, sick of this one guy
they work with, what was his name?

1302
01:00:45,598 --> 01:00:52,868
Walter, who's like, um, a
sexual predator um, icky.

1303
01:00:53,228 --> 01:00:57,028
And, you know, they're talking about like,
he hit on me right in front of his wife.

1304
01:00:57,028 --> 01:00:58,368
His wife was sitting right there.

1305
01:00:58,758 --> 01:01:00,818
Um, each of them has a story about Walter.

1306
01:01:00,818 --> 01:01:02,438
They're like, he tried to hit on me too.

1307
01:01:02,478 --> 01:01:03,788
He tried to do this to me.

1308
01:01:03,788 --> 01:01:04,618
He tried to do that.

1309
01:01:04,638 --> 01:01:06,088
You know, he grabbed me, whatever.

1310
01:01:06,578 --> 01:01:09,528
And, you know, they're basically
talking about how they're

1311
01:01:09,528 --> 01:01:10,608
just kind of sick of that.

1312
01:01:10,678 --> 01:01:14,263
Like, Like what, you know,
what does he think I am?

1313
01:01:15,433 --> 01:01:18,463
So they were the ones that caused
the rainstorm at the very beginning.

1314
01:01:18,483 --> 01:01:20,933
And they're like, wait, just
by thinking about it, all three

1315
01:01:20,933 --> 01:01:22,063
of us thought the same thing.

1316
01:01:22,093 --> 01:01:24,623
And then we caused the rainstorm
to start on his speech.

1317
01:01:24,663 --> 01:01:24,983
Right.

1318
01:01:25,348 --> 01:01:25,688
Yeah.

1319
01:01:26,083 --> 01:01:28,133
they realized they're powerful
right from the very beginning.

1320
01:01:29,508 --> 01:01:34,893
But I don't think they realize, The
gravity that they could, you know, of

1321
01:01:34,893 --> 01:01:38,123
what they could do until later, though.

1322
01:01:38,563 --> 01:01:38,983
Yeah.

1323
01:01:39,233 --> 01:01:39,623
Yeah.

1324
01:01:40,233 --> 01:01:42,153
The scene with, uh, with Felicia,

1325
01:01:42,453 --> 01:01:42,813
Yes.

1326
01:01:43,613 --> 01:01:46,983
Let's get in, let's talk about
Felicia and Clyde because holy shit.

1327
01:01:46,993 --> 01:01:52,103
Like that's, they're not even
like a, like this is in a movie.

1328
01:01:52,103 --> 01:01:53,723
This is like your, your B plot.

1329
01:01:53,733 --> 01:01:57,453
This is just a side plot or
something, but they are just as

1330
01:01:57,453 --> 01:01:59,043
good as anybody else in the movie.

1331
01:01:59,101 --> 01:02:00,113
They're front and center to me.

1332
01:02:00,653 --> 01:02:05,773
Uh, you got the, you got the
infamous, Cherry vomiting.

1333
01:02:06,073 --> 01:02:06,833
pit scene.

1334
01:02:07,133 --> 01:02:07,643
got

1335
01:02:08,403 --> 01:02:08,853
Which was

1336
01:02:08,893 --> 01:02:09,053
caught.

1337
01:02:09,353 --> 01:02:10,263
down, by the way.

1338
01:02:10,283 --> 01:02:10,693
Did you

1339
01:02:11,153 --> 01:02:11,653
I did.

1340
01:02:11,953 --> 01:02:12,383
see that?

1341
01:02:13,003 --> 01:02:17,563
If you watch that scene close, you
can tell it's cut down because there's

1342
01:02:17,563 --> 01:02:23,053
a one, there's one shot and you
can see like the entire wall cover.

1343
01:02:23,073 --> 01:02:27,803
Like, you can see way more vomit
on the walls that didn't get shown.

1344
01:02:27,803 --> 01:02:29,063
So you're like, wait, what happened?

1345
01:02:29,703 --> 01:02:32,603
And then yes, I did know that
that was a way longer scene.

1346
01:02:32,603 --> 01:02:37,323
They had a robot or something
that was supposed to do this and

1347
01:02:38,103 --> 01:02:39,023
spent a bunch of money on it.

1348
01:02:39,023 --> 01:02:39,853
And that's all it got.

1349
01:02:40,063 --> 01:02:41,153
That's all it was used for.

1350
01:02:41,153 --> 01:02:43,303
So, um, it

1351
01:02:43,603 --> 01:02:44,503
watching the movie with me.

1352
01:02:44,503 --> 01:02:46,033
He's like, I have to
leave during this scene.

1353
01:02:46,033 --> 01:02:46,803
I can't watch this.

1354
01:02:47,603 --> 01:02:47,923
pretty rough.

1355
01:02:48,543 --> 01:02:49,573
didn't bother me that much.

1356
01:02:49,573 --> 01:02:51,603
I don't know why it didn't,
you know what though?

1357
01:02:51,953 --> 01:02:56,093
You know, what was weird
was I was eating a Yoplait.

1358
01:02:57,393 --> 01:02:59,053
And it was cherry at the same

1359
01:02:59,083 --> 01:02:59,463
way!

1360
01:03:00,593 --> 01:03:04,183
So I had the taste in my
mouth and I was like, huh.

1361
01:03:04,803 --> 01:03:07,353
But I didn't ever get,
I didn't feel sick, so.

1362
01:03:07,868 --> 01:03:08,568
It was all right.

1363
01:03:08,618 --> 01:03:11,708
Well, I mean, right from the very
start after she has her fall down

1364
01:03:11,708 --> 01:03:16,318
the stairs when Daryl first comes
into town and it's all, you know,

1365
01:03:16,368 --> 01:03:18,258
something's really weird about all this.

1366
01:03:18,278 --> 01:03:19,958
Everyone's forgetting his name.

1367
01:03:19,958 --> 01:03:21,878
They can't remember what his name was.

1368
01:03:21,888 --> 01:03:23,908
And then they all remember this at once.

1369
01:03:23,938 --> 01:03:26,223
And, and she has her accident
falls down the stairs.

1370
01:03:26,963 --> 01:03:28,393
And she's never the same again.

1371
01:03:28,703 --> 01:03:31,533
She was already kind of a,
maybe a religious fanatic.

1372
01:03:31,713 --> 01:03:34,213
Um, you can kind of see hints
of that in the beginning, but

1373
01:03:34,213 --> 01:03:35,993
she was very much like, sane.

1374
01:03:36,943 --> 01:03:37,873
Do you think that's why?

1375
01:03:37,923 --> 01:03:39,863
Do you think that's why he affected her?

1376
01:03:39,893 --> 01:03:41,043
Is she a conduit?

1377
01:03:41,063 --> 01:03:45,093
Was she like the complete opposite
and she was like the good?

1378
01:03:45,113 --> 01:03:46,653
And it was like, alright,
I'm gonna get in.

1379
01:03:47,203 --> 01:03:48,883
She's definitely an oracle of some

1380
01:03:49,183 --> 01:03:49,653
There you go.

1381
01:03:49,843 --> 01:03:50,003
Yeah,

1382
01:03:50,003 --> 01:03:57,553
like, once she kind of, um, Yeah, once
she kind of, uh, loses it, her sanity

1383
01:03:57,553 --> 01:04:04,213
a bit, she's talking about in terms of
like, something's not right about him,

1384
01:04:04,223 --> 01:04:09,043
and those women are getting caught up in
him, and there's debauchery happening at

1385
01:04:09,043 --> 01:04:12,933
that house, and she's kind of like, she
reminds me in Bewitched, the neighbor

1386
01:04:12,933 --> 01:04:16,033
that's always like peeking over the,
you know, she's looking, she knows

1387
01:04:16,033 --> 01:04:20,158
something else is going on, She doesn't
know what it is, but she's saying some

1388
01:04:20,158 --> 01:04:22,468
pretty specific things that are accurate.

1389
01:04:23,038 --> 01:04:26,828
And she's even saying those poor
women, like she knows that they're

1390
01:04:26,828 --> 01:04:30,318
not, they don't know that they're
wrapped up in this and that they

1391
01:04:30,748 --> 01:04:32,548
are in danger, they're in trouble.

1392
01:04:33,008 --> 01:04:36,188
And then she even predicts that
they're going to have his sons, that

1393
01:04:36,288 --> 01:04:37,628
he's going to want to procreate.

1394
01:04:37,658 --> 01:04:39,458
And all this.

1395
01:04:40,223 --> 01:04:46,023
Right before her untimely death, but,
um, yeah, she's kind of like an oracle.

1396
01:04:46,213 --> 01:04:50,173
And like, if you look back in ancient
history, there's a lot of, um,

1397
01:04:51,573 --> 01:04:58,423
hints at oracles and seers and, in
Nordic tradition, there's the vulva.

1398
01:04:58,473 --> 01:05:03,873
They are women, uh, who are, you
know, they have a gift of being

1399
01:05:03,873 --> 01:05:05,596
able to see or prophesy things.

1400
01:05:06,353 --> 01:05:12,643
Um, but they, um, They have fits like
they're not, there's some indication

1401
01:05:12,643 --> 01:05:16,453
that they don't appear sane when
they are having their oracle moment

1402
01:05:16,463 --> 01:05:20,233
when they're like, you know, speaking
and prophesying so that's what

1403
01:05:20,233 --> 01:05:25,169
this reminded me of is she's like,
unwell, she's kind of screaming.

1404
01:05:26,853 --> 01:05:29,923
And it's scary, and her husband is like.

1405
01:05:29,993 --> 01:05:31,973
Oh

1406
01:05:31,993 --> 01:05:32,073
do.

1407
01:05:32,073 --> 01:05:32,903
He's drinking again.

1408
01:05:32,903 --> 01:05:34,153
Clyde's drinking again.

1409
01:05:35,113 --> 01:05:36,653
So he's got that going on.

1410
01:05:36,663 --> 01:05:37,673
He doesn't know how to act.

1411
01:05:38,653 --> 01:05:40,923
You got her saying all these things.

1412
01:05:40,933 --> 01:05:44,633
She says she went before she
starts puking up the cherry pits.

1413
01:05:44,723 --> 01:05:50,023
She says he's trying to get inside of me
and she starts doing the squats and you

1414
01:05:50,033 --> 01:05:52,963
can that's real though because he is.

1415
01:05:53,448 --> 01:05:58,678
Daryl is trying to get inside of her,
in her mind, in her whatever, and

1416
01:05:58,793 --> 01:05:59,803
Like a possession.

1417
01:06:00,188 --> 01:06:01,668
he keeps feeding the girls cherries.

1418
01:06:01,668 --> 01:06:02,728
He's like, eat another cherry.

1419
01:06:02,738 --> 01:06:03,548
He knows what's happening.

1420
01:06:03,558 --> 01:06:04,458
He knows what's going on.

1421
01:06:05,028 --> 01:06:09,888
Um, I found that very, I don't
know, it was It was a moment in

1422
01:06:09,888 --> 01:06:13,608
the movie where you're like, Oh,
there is a lot of power going on.

1423
01:06:13,638 --> 01:06:16,798
Like, cause up until then, she's
just kind of, yeah, she fell.

1424
01:06:17,078 --> 01:06:18,238
She could have fallen on her own.

1425
01:06:18,478 --> 01:06:20,228
Uh, she, you know, some
other stuff happened.

1426
01:06:20,598 --> 01:06:21,618
She didn't eat any cherries.

1427
01:06:22,148 --> 01:06:22,468
You know,

1428
01:06:23,253 --> 01:06:25,333
And she's just throwing up cherry pits.

1429
01:06:26,363 --> 01:06:27,603
Oh man.

1430
01:06:28,293 --> 01:06:28,698
Yeah.

1431
01:06:28,998 --> 01:06:33,788
they said that, that, uh, robot was a
real, real scene stiller on the set,

1432
01:06:34,693 --> 01:06:35,013
know.

1433
01:06:35,343 --> 01:06:38,603
It was very, like, I have to say for
the time period that this was filmed and

1434
01:06:38,603 --> 01:06:40,533
everything else, it was very realistic.

1435
01:06:40,533 --> 01:06:45,193
And I remember, um, yeah, like a physical
reaction watching it when I was a kid.

1436
01:06:45,373 --> 01:06:48,623
I remember thinking, Oh, this is horrible.

1437
01:06:48,653 --> 01:06:48,893
Like.

1438
01:06:49,243 --> 01:06:52,673
I think I have a really visceral
fear of throwing up anyway.

1439
01:06:52,783 --> 01:06:56,923
Like, I'm the kind of person who, when I
do get sick, I pretty much hold back from

1440
01:06:56,923 --> 01:06:59,143
throwing up for as long as I possibly can.

1441
01:06:59,873 --> 01:07:01,333
maybe there's something to that.

1442
01:07:01,803 --> 01:07:04,083
My own reaction to it is like, no!

1443
01:07:04,968 --> 01:07:05,398
right?

1444
01:07:05,958 --> 01:07:07,718
Let's talk about the town they're in.

1445
01:07:08,183 --> 01:07:08,563
Yeah,

1446
01:07:09,398 --> 01:07:09,578
Eastwick.

1447
01:07:09,683 --> 01:07:15,053
pretty stereotypical, like,
New England type of feel.

1448
01:07:16,063 --> 01:07:17,308
Much like in Practical Magic,

1449
01:07:17,608 --> 01:07:17,958
Yeah.

1450
01:07:18,038 --> 01:07:22,058
They were gonna film this thing in, in
Little Compton, Rhode Island is where

1451
01:07:22,058 --> 01:07:27,658
they originally had planned, but then
I think they found out that Wow, their

1452
01:07:27,658 --> 01:07:31,848
movie, their, their town and their
church was going to be used for witches,

1453
01:07:31,858 --> 01:07:33,628
like a witch movie and they said nah.

1454
01:07:34,238 --> 01:07:38,948
So imagine the uproar
when they found that out.

1455
01:07:39,228 --> 01:07:42,698
I mean, honestly, it's like inviting
Dracula to a garlic festival.

1456
01:07:43,018 --> 01:07:44,098
Like, that's what that would be.

1457
01:07:45,388 --> 01:07:46,148
That's what it would be.

1458
01:07:47,328 --> 01:07:48,058
So what happened?

1459
01:07:48,058 --> 01:07:49,648
They moved to Cohasset, Massachusetts.

1460
01:07:50,653 --> 01:07:50,993
yes.

1461
01:07:51,808 --> 01:07:56,368
Were the locals there, they were way
more chill and they actually ended up

1462
01:07:56,378 --> 01:08:01,908
being extras and on set extras in the
movie and then behind the scenes too.

1463
01:08:01,908 --> 01:08:07,068
So, I mean, who wouldn't want to
have all that fake vomit on there?

1464
01:08:07,498 --> 01:08:09,788
I wonder who volunteered to do
that for him or clean it up?

1465
01:08:10,318 --> 01:08:11,008
Uh, it

1466
01:08:12,203 --> 01:08:15,593
Yeah, because it's not just Felicia,
it was, uh, Daryl at the end.

1467
01:08:15,688 --> 01:08:16,068
does.

1468
01:08:16,183 --> 01:08:17,423
the same trick on him.

1469
01:08:18,058 --> 01:08:19,648
Yeah, but

1470
01:08:19,713 --> 01:08:24,043
why, but I have, uh, flashes of,
um, Danny DeVito in that scene.

1471
01:08:25,438 --> 01:08:25,593
Everything

1472
01:08:25,738 --> 01:08:26,218
there

1473
01:08:26,303 --> 01:08:28,383
DeVito is in, he just, like, gross, right?

1474
01:08:28,403 --> 01:08:33,443
Like, Really disgusting scenes he was
Penguin and Batman and he was like eating

1475
01:08:33,443 --> 01:08:37,688
a fish or like every scene he's done
and um, always sunny in Philadelphia.

1476
01:08:37,988 --> 01:08:38,098
you go.

1477
01:08:38,228 --> 01:08:38,548
Oh,

1478
01:08:38,553 --> 01:08:42,163
like a little bit like drool
coming down his face or something

1479
01:08:42,173 --> 01:08:45,183
and um, Jack Nicholson in that
scene just reminded me of that.

1480
01:08:45,183 --> 01:08:45,813
I

1481
01:08:45,908 --> 01:08:46,588
that's funny.

1482
01:08:46,598 --> 01:08:51,873
Did you, speaking of Batman, Not
long after this movie, Jack Nicholson

1483
01:08:52,163 --> 01:08:53,633
comes into the role of the Joker.

1484
01:08:54,573 --> 01:08:57,063
There's a little, there's a little
Easter egg in this movie though.

1485
01:08:57,643 --> 01:09:00,863
There's a, there's a shot of
a joker behind Jack Nicholson

1486
01:09:00,863 --> 01:09:01,523
in one of the scenes.

1487
01:09:01,523 --> 01:09:02,633
Yeah, yeah.

1488
01:09:02,633 --> 01:09:03,473
Go back and look for that.

1489
01:09:03,483 --> 01:09:03,933
that.

1490
01:09:04,113 --> 01:09:04,623
I did.

1491
01:09:04,953 --> 01:09:08,163
And, and Batman would've come
out about a year after this.

1492
01:09:08,163 --> 01:09:11,333
I guess well give or take year or two.

1493
01:09:11,723 --> 01:09:12,863
Uh, for the original.

1494
01:09:13,243 --> 01:09:14,893
So I did notice that little Easter egg.

1495
01:09:14,893 --> 01:09:15,553
Maybe that's just me.

1496
01:09:15,943 --> 01:09:17,963
And then you've got the connection
with Michelle Pfeiffer being Catwoman.

1497
01:09:19,588 --> 01:09:20,308
Same movie, wasn't it?

1498
01:09:20,608 --> 01:09:22,393
Every Catwoman, um, she was in

1499
01:09:22,808 --> 01:09:23,238
Second one.

1500
01:09:23,538 --> 01:09:23,653
one.

1501
01:09:23,793 --> 01:09:24,853
Yeah, he was in

1502
01:09:24,868 --> 01:09:25,318
That's right.

1503
01:09:25,883 --> 01:09:31,203
So, every Catwoman that's ever played
Catwoman since Michelle Pfeiffer has

1504
01:09:31,203 --> 01:09:33,773
to live up to her, in my opinion.

1505
01:09:34,758 --> 01:09:35,078
Oh, Halle

1506
01:09:35,378 --> 01:09:36,813
like Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman.

1507
01:09:37,088 --> 01:09:37,313
Her,

1508
01:09:37,388 --> 01:09:37,613
Berry.

1509
01:09:37,878 --> 01:09:38,478
Halle Berry.

1510
01:09:38,853 --> 01:09:41,243
and then her look at the
camera and saying meow.

1511
01:09:41,563 --> 01:09:43,443
I, I, I'll never live that down.

1512
01:09:43,443 --> 01:09:44,423
That's my favorite.

1513
01:09:44,598 --> 01:09:45,778
Halle Berry's up there for me.

1514
01:09:45,788 --> 01:09:46,798
Halle Berry and Michelle.

1515
01:09:47,288 --> 01:09:51,478
Yeah, that's the two, that's
your two queens of, yeah,

1516
01:09:51,478 --> 01:09:52,128
digress.

1517
01:09:52,268 --> 01:09:55,668
Again, just my, uh, girl crushes.

1518
01:09:55,968 --> 01:09:56,308
right?

1519
01:09:56,308 --> 01:09:56,888
What else you got?

1520
01:09:56,928 --> 01:09:58,568
What else you want to
say about this movie?

1521
01:09:58,568 --> 01:10:01,528
I got a lot I could say, but we
better not go too long because

1522
01:10:02,088 --> 01:10:02,588
Yeah.

1523
01:10:02,668 --> 01:10:03,068
Yeah.

1524
01:10:03,118 --> 01:10:05,478
Oh my gosh, both of these movies
together, there's just so much.

1525
01:10:05,528 --> 01:10:08,598
And, um, uh, so I

1526
01:10:08,898 --> 01:10:11,508
these two, I will say
these two movies to me.

1527
01:10:11,958 --> 01:10:16,618
I'm glad they got added to
our project because they are

1528
01:10:16,618 --> 01:10:19,478
quintessential movies for witch movies.

1529
01:10:19,708 --> 01:10:23,078
Like, these two, everything
else is after this.

1530
01:10:23,538 --> 01:10:25,888
Like, really, like, go ahead.

1531
01:10:25,888 --> 01:10:26,948
I didn't mean to cut you off there.

1532
01:10:27,358 --> 01:10:27,978
oh, you're okay.

1533
01:10:27,978 --> 01:10:28,248
Yeah.

1534
01:10:28,268 --> 01:10:31,338
I, well, I was going to like
wrap up kind of the theme here

1535
01:10:31,358 --> 01:10:34,758
in the way that I feel about,

1536
01:10:36,938 --> 01:10:40,048
um, kind of the theme of this
movie for the three women.

1537
01:10:41,013 --> 01:10:43,373
It's like liberation, right?

1538
01:10:43,423 --> 01:10:48,033
I mean, Daryl Van Horm, so he sort
of seduces them with the idea of

1539
01:10:48,273 --> 01:10:50,323
let go of your inhibitions, right?

1540
01:10:50,383 --> 01:10:55,153
I mean, you see that, especially in the
scene with Jane and the, um, the cello.

1541
01:10:55,568 --> 01:10:55,928
Yeah.

1542
01:10:56,278 --> 01:10:59,528
Extremely uptight, extremely reserved.

1543
01:11:00,388 --> 01:11:01,468
a nervous wreck.

1544
01:11:01,488 --> 01:11:06,978
You just see how very,
um, timid she is and,

1545
01:11:07,698 --> 01:11:08,038
Tight.

1546
01:11:08,438 --> 01:11:09,148
and tight.

1547
01:11:09,148 --> 01:11:13,798
Yeah, and honestly, a reflection
of women in general, and how we're

1548
01:11:13,798 --> 01:11:18,238
raised from little girls to be
the right kind of woman, right?

1549
01:11:18,388 --> 01:11:22,503
We're raised to be like, is
what men want as their wives.

1550
01:11:22,513 --> 01:11:25,053
This is what a well
behaved woman looks like.

1551
01:11:25,053 --> 01:11:26,973
This is what a good
Christian woman looks like.

1552
01:11:26,998 --> 01:11:31,243
You know, all of the ways that we're
brought up to live inside of certain

1553
01:11:31,243 --> 01:11:32,943
boundaries that are acceptable.

1554
01:11:33,313 --> 01:11:38,483
Which are, if anyone watched the
Barbie movie, you can say impossible

1555
01:11:38,483 --> 01:11:40,153
standards to live up to, right?

1556
01:11:41,013 --> 01:11:42,533
And you see that in this scene with Jane.

1557
01:11:42,533 --> 01:11:48,473
So she's playing the cello and he's
the one that kind of her from that.

1558
01:11:48,958 --> 01:11:49,518
What a scene.

1559
01:11:50,273 --> 01:11:55,123
her sexual energy and, you know,
liberating her from, from her tightness

1560
01:11:55,173 --> 01:11:59,046
into, like, with passion, be yourself.

1561
01:11:59,723 --> 01:12:03,613
Of course, the reaction from the town,
again, is pretty, um, stereotypical,

1562
01:12:03,613 --> 01:12:05,043
is that they're all calling her a slut.

1563
01:12:05,418 --> 01:12:05,838
Yeah.

1564
01:12:06,233 --> 01:12:09,603
The point when she's at the grocery
store and she's just over there like,

1565
01:12:09,893 --> 01:12:13,773
she's eating chocolate and pickles
out of a jar and she's like, oh that

1566
01:12:13,773 --> 01:12:15,033
chocolate's the best, I love that.

1567
01:12:15,363 --> 01:12:21,093
And she's wearing whatever she feels good
in and she's just being holy herself and

1568
01:12:21,093 --> 01:12:25,103
then, you know, the women in the village,
in the town are like, slut, you know.

1569
01:12:25,448 --> 01:12:26,688
And she's looking at the newspaper.

1570
01:12:26,898 --> 01:12:28,548
Like, there's the newspaper and all.

1571
01:12:28,578 --> 01:12:29,198
Oh, yeah.

1572
01:12:29,218 --> 01:12:29,518
Just,

1573
01:12:29,603 --> 01:12:31,423
all the rumors of what's
going on at that house.

1574
01:12:31,423 --> 01:12:34,983
And she's realizing like, Oh, there
are like consequences for living

1575
01:12:34,983 --> 01:12:37,263
my life way that I want to live it.

1576
01:12:38,253 --> 01:12:45,193
But what they truly get to realize
is that they are not beholden to

1577
01:12:45,193 --> 01:12:48,583
this even masculine authority.

1578
01:12:49,063 --> 01:12:50,878
Which comes in the form of Daryl Van Horn.

1579
01:12:51,073 --> 01:12:54,663
Like, they're liberating themselves
from society's expectations, and

1580
01:12:54,663 --> 01:12:57,943
then eventually they have to liberate
themselves from his expectations.

1581
01:12:58,743 --> 01:13:00,603
if he's the one that
liberated them, right?

1582
01:13:00,603 --> 01:13:01,173
It's like,

1583
01:13:03,623 --> 01:13:08,883
Yeah, they're, uh, uh, he's
the master of unmastered women,

1584
01:13:09,238 --> 01:13:09,578
yeah.

1585
01:13:09,583 --> 01:13:09,723
quote

1586
01:13:10,268 --> 01:13:10,598
Yeah.

1587
01:13:10,693 --> 01:13:11,293
am using.

1588
01:13:11,593 --> 01:13:15,023
So I was reading In Defense of Witches
during the time that I was, you know,

1589
01:13:15,023 --> 01:13:22,433
getting ready to review this movie,
a book by Monet, Chalet, Chalet.

1590
01:13:22,818 --> 01:13:23,198
Okay.

1591
01:13:24,003 --> 01:13:27,603
So In Defense of Witches is, you know,
basically a book about, you know, the

1592
01:13:27,688 --> 01:13:31,243
ramifications of witches throughout
history in our socioeconomic world.

1593
01:13:31,653 --> 01:13:34,673
And actually started
referencing this movie,

1594
01:13:34,973 --> 01:13:35,353
Really?

1595
01:13:35,653 --> 01:13:41,193
like, okay, so this is what she says in
this movie, in this book, she's saying,

1596
01:13:41,573 --> 01:13:46,743
what if instead of saying the devil, we
replace the word devil with independence.

1597
01:13:48,123 --> 01:13:49,003
Hmm.

1598
01:13:49,303 --> 01:13:53,763
every witch trial that's ever gone
on where women are like, accused of

1599
01:13:53,903 --> 01:13:58,063
signing the devil's book and being, you
know, having the devil be their master.

1600
01:13:58,563 --> 01:14:01,203
What if the devil is just
their own independence.

1601
01:14:02,463 --> 01:14:02,843
I love it.

1602
01:14:03,473 --> 01:14:07,773
Now, replace that in every story,
including this one, these three women,

1603
01:14:07,823 --> 01:14:12,013
and say, at the end of this movie, when
they finally get to use their powers

1604
01:14:12,053 --> 01:14:17,243
to liberate themselves completely
from his power and his their master,

1605
01:14:17,593 --> 01:14:19,133
that's when they're like really free.

1606
01:14:20,083 --> 01:14:20,413
I love that.

1607
01:14:20,433 --> 01:14:22,703
It's like, but they had to
come together because they got

1608
01:14:22,703 --> 01:14:25,173
seduced separately, basically.

1609
01:14:25,173 --> 01:14:28,853
And then as they, when they come
together is when they became powerful and

1610
01:14:29,843 --> 01:14:30,083
Yep.

1611
01:14:30,123 --> 01:14:33,153
And they were able to come over,
overcome their jealousies or their

1612
01:14:33,543 --> 01:14:37,003
egos or, you know, what they were
looking for each of them and say,

1613
01:14:37,653 --> 01:14:40,003
we can actually take back our power.

1614
01:14:40,183 --> 01:14:41,863
Like we're the ones who have the power.

1615
01:14:42,353 --> 01:14:46,063
That's where my theory comes in,
where it's not him, it's them.

1616
01:14:46,823 --> 01:14:47,913
He needed them.

1617
01:14:48,333 --> 01:14:49,143
seeing it more clear.

1618
01:14:49,143 --> 01:14:50,013
Now he did.

1619
01:14:50,533 --> 01:14:50,963
Yeah.

1620
01:14:51,263 --> 01:14:52,113
I love this movie.

1621
01:14:52,993 --> 01:14:55,973
Final, my final thought on this
movie is I'm going to have to watch

1622
01:14:55,973 --> 01:14:59,763
it again, especially after you just
gave me all that theories and stuff.

1623
01:14:59,763 --> 01:15:02,553
I'm like, not that I wasn't
already, because like I said,

1624
01:15:02,553 --> 01:15:04,043
man, with the cast like this.

1625
01:15:05,073 --> 01:15:07,933
I'm surprised this one flew
under my radar this long, really.

1626
01:15:08,423 --> 01:15:08,993
Um,

1627
01:15:09,293 --> 01:15:09,743
Yeah.

1628
01:15:10,063 --> 01:15:10,733
it was incredible.

1629
01:15:10,813 --> 01:15:11,253
I really do.

1630
01:15:11,253 --> 01:15:12,208
I like this movie.

1631
01:15:12,208 --> 01:15:14,573
This will be a Halloween
tradition for me every year.

1632
01:15:14,573 --> 01:15:20,493
I'll put this into my repertoire of movies
and I'll have to keep watching this.

1633
01:15:20,513 --> 01:15:21,283
Cause I enjoyed it.

1634
01:15:21,373 --> 01:15:22,163
I thought it was great.

1635
01:15:22,603 --> 01:15:24,888
Um, It's all over the top.

1636
01:15:24,938 --> 01:15:27,998
Every piece, every bit of it was
over the top in the best way though.

1637
01:15:28,378 --> 01:15:28,778
So

1638
01:15:31,263 --> 01:15:37,553
So, audience just needs to decide,
because if my pick, we even started any

1639
01:15:37,553 --> 01:15:42,773
of these movies, if I was to pick our
movie for the final, movie screening

1640
01:15:42,783 --> 01:15:45,553
event, it would be Practical Magic.

1641
01:15:47,103 --> 01:15:49,133
So I guess we just have to

1642
01:15:49,188 --> 01:15:49,208
you

1643
01:15:49,273 --> 01:15:49,508
and see.

1644
01:15:49,633 --> 01:15:52,603
The audience needs to decide of these
movies, which is their favorite.

1645
01:15:52,948 --> 01:15:58,618
got to vote, but the event is
October 26th, Saturday at Novel

1646
01:15:58,658 --> 01:16:00,668
Daybreak by Crescent Communities.

1647
01:16:01,728 --> 01:16:03,008
I can't wait for this event.

1648
01:16:03,008 --> 01:16:04,548
You can get your tickets
out there right now.

1649
01:16:04,548 --> 01:16:06,428
You can find the event page.

1650
01:16:06,538 --> 01:16:07,188
It's on Facebook.

1651
01:16:07,968 --> 01:16:13,858
Uh, we got Land of a Thousand Hills
donating prizes for our costume contest.

1652
01:16:13,868 --> 01:16:14,488
I can't wait.

1653
01:16:14,968 --> 01:16:15,618
I can't wait for that.

1654
01:16:15,618 --> 01:16:17,258
You got yours already?

1655
01:16:17,308 --> 01:16:18,138
I don't have mine yet.

1656
01:16:18,773 --> 01:16:19,083
Yep.

1657
01:16:19,163 --> 01:16:21,273
I went down to Spark at Trolley Square.

1658
01:16:21,273 --> 01:16:23,393
They've got some amazing outfits there.

1659
01:16:23,453 --> 01:16:26,513
Um, they, they have got our
flyer up to sell tickets.

1660
01:16:26,513 --> 01:16:30,423
So if you're looking for, uh, the
tickets, you can look at the flyer

1661
01:16:30,423 --> 01:16:31,563
that I'm gonna have up around town.

1662
01:16:32,393 --> 01:16:34,123
Spirit Halloween was there yesterday.

1663
01:16:34,123 --> 01:16:38,343
Picked up some, you know, they're open
for the, for the time being the district.

1664
01:16:38,393 --> 01:16:39,733
So, uh, we're.

1665
01:16:39,958 --> 01:16:41,628
Yeah, getting our costumes ready.

1666
01:16:41,668 --> 01:16:45,878
And I'm like, Hey, you guys need to
encourage people to buy up their costumes

1667
01:16:45,878 --> 01:16:49,278
to get ready for this contest so they
can win a gift card to the coffee shop.

1668
01:16:49,358 --> 01:16:49,558
Land

1669
01:16:49,578 --> 01:16:51,528
I love that.

1670
01:16:51,708 --> 01:16:54,548
Let's go ahead and, uh, wrap this
thing up and get on out of here.

1671
01:16:55,368 --> 01:16:55,628
Yep.

1672
01:16:55,698 --> 01:16:56,438
Let's thank our sponsors.

1673
01:16:56,488 --> 01:17:01,898
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1674
01:17:01,898 --> 01:17:03,418
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1675
01:17:04,588 --> 01:17:06,018
Stole that name from the movie.

1676
01:17:06,048 --> 01:17:06,438
Stole it.

1677
01:17:07,318 --> 01:17:07,818
I'm kidding.

1678
01:17:08,218 --> 01:17:09,208
It's an homage.

1679
01:17:09,208 --> 01:17:10,198
Come on, guys out there.

1680
01:17:10,568 --> 01:17:12,298
And Magic's even spelt with a K.

1681
01:17:12,318 --> 01:17:12,638
Come on.

1682
01:17:12,938 --> 01:17:13,258
Yeah.

1683
01:17:13,448 --> 01:17:13,678
spelled right.

1684
01:17:13,678 --> 01:17:14,878
It's not even spelt the same.

1685
01:17:16,148 --> 01:17:17,358
Let me thank our sponsors.

1686
01:17:17,518 --> 01:17:19,226
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1687
01:17:19,308 --> 01:17:20,168
Gotta thank them.

1688
01:17:20,778 --> 01:17:22,598
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1689
01:17:23,378 --> 01:17:25,338
Also, we gotta thank Live Cake Parties.

1690
01:17:26,403 --> 01:17:27,593
Uh, who else we got, Courtney?

1691
01:17:29,578 --> 01:17:31,618
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Studio in South Jordan.

1692
01:17:31,638 --> 01:17:35,498
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1693
01:17:35,538 --> 01:17:37,358
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