The Witch Movie Project Ep 3 - 'The Craft' (1996) vs 'Teen Witch' (1989) + Exclusive Interview w/ Robyn Lively!

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Whoa, that, the violin didn't
scare me that much, Courtney.

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The witch laughing didn't
scare me that much.

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You know why, though?

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Because I am hyped up this week
for the Witch Movie Project.

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I know it's a couple days late,
but we've got a really good reason.

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to pull it back

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We

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a little bit.

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we've actually got interview with one
of these stars from one of these movies.

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During

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I never in a million years
thought that was going to happen.

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That was just total alignment of
the universe being like, Oh, you're

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going to talk about this movie?

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Well, then we're going to put this
person right here in your lap to

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actually come in physical contact with.

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That's amazing.

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the same week that this episode aired.

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I know.

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that's what I can't, I can't believe.

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So that's why it's a little bit late.

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Our two movies, we're not going
to tell you who the actor is that

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we talked to, but our two movies
are Teen Witch and The Craft.

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To the best.

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let's talk about this though, because
October 26th is when this all comes

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to the culmination of the big event at
Novel Daybreak by Crested Communities.

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Tell us about that, Courtney.

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Can you wait for that?

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I can't.

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Oh my gosh.

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It's like.

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My entire life right now is leading
up to this one moment in time when

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hopefully we will have lots of people
joining us for our live podcast

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Yes.

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and movie screening of
one of these witch movies.

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We're gonna have a costume contest.

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We're gonna have people dress up.

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It's gonna be a blast.

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October 26th.

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We are actually starting a
little bit early, so we said 6 p.

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m.

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for the movie, but I do have
like some fun things going on

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at Land of a Thousand Hills.

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Coffee shop, which is right across the
courtyard from where the clubhouse is.

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So we decided to do just kind
of a meet and greet earlier.

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So before the event starts,
come to Land of a Thousand Hills

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and do a little meet and greet.

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They've got drinks, they've got food.

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So you can, you know, get a little
refreshment before the event starts.

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I love that.

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And Land of a Thousand Hills, they're
actually sponsoring the costume contest.

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So they're going to be providing
costume contest winners with prizes.

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I don't know what those prizes
look like yet, but I bet it's

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going to be some good stuff.

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Thank you to Stacey, Pure Sweat,
and Float Studio South Jordan.

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And also, Cake Parties is going
to be putting on this event.

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It's going to be incredible in there.

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I don't even know what we, I
don't know what to expect yet.

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Like, it's going to be wild.

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I just expect it to be a really good time.

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Which is Night Out.

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Oh

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Night Out, what, what movie so
far that we've done are you hoping

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to see get screened that night?

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man, I didn't expect to like Suspiria
so much, but that's the one that

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keeps coming back in my head.

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Suspiria has got a tight, it's,
I've seen the voting on that and

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one that's really, really back and forth.

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know, but we got some movies coming up in
the next few episodes too that are some

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of my favorites, so it's hard to tell.

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one of my favorites is coming up.

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My pick is coming up, not in this episode,
it's coming up, we'll see in a couple.

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But let's go ahead and get into this one.

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This is Teen Witch versus The Craft.

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Hope you enjoy it.

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we've watched how many
witch movies so far?

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Four?

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We up to four?

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Yeah, four.

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And they've all been, what, horror movies?

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Just straight up scare
after scare after scare.

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Because I think I'm the one that
shows off for the first ones, right?

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It just

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Right, yeah, we each
had our list of picks.

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I felt like we needed a palette cleanser.

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What do you think?

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Yeah.

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episode.

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Just, you, I, I know you have.

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And do you want to
introduce these two movies?

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Or should I set them up and tell the
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without saying the names of the movies?

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Even though they can see it,
but I love doing it this way

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because it's kind of fun.

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But.

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We're gonna dive into the world,
wicked world and good world, of teenage

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witchcraft that we did not, we didn't
even think about this when we paired

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these two movies up, but it's teenage
witchcraft, high school drama, 80s, 90s,

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you got the late, late 80s, one from 89,

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you got one from mid 90s, late 90s,

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I know.

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And so different.

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When you look at like one from the 80s,
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clothes, 80s music style, all of that.

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And then you have mid 90s and
it's like peak 90s, right?

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way, way not edgy.

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It was, you know what?

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It feels like they were made in
two totally different time periods.

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Yeah, and it wasn't even that many years

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years, seven years apart is all like,
that's the thing to me to think about.

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Now that we put that into perspective,
not only that, but there are other

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similarities along with this, and it
couldn't be too, uh, More different

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movies, honestly, but even the, the,
the lead characters in both the Robins,

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the battle of the Robins, you got Robin
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all of that was unintentional.

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I knew that these were both teen
witch movies, teenagers being

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witches, and that's why I paired them
together thinking that would be good.

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When I watched them both back to
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things were, like, connected, or
even though they're so different,

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totally different types of movies.

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One is very cheesy, one is, like, very,
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were like, Ugh, that was terrible.

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Over the top cheesy.

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I think, I feel like it's on purpose.

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It's gotta be on purpose.

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For sure.

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go ahead and what is that first movie?

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What's the, what's the first
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Of course, the 1989 Teen Witch,

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Yes.

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it was Hollywood's response to Teen Wolf,

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Which,

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a female

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let me tell you this.

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Now I'm going to, I will say, you
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into some of my medicinal cannabis.

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Which leads me to putting on Teen Witch
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and thinking, where is Michael J Fox?

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Like that's really what I

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Love to have Michael J.

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Fox in this movie, by the way.

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I would have loved that.

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Oh, absolutely.

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But tell me, what do you know
about the, the, the, uh, the

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Teen Wolf slash Teen Witch?

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Yeah, so it's interesting because,
um, and by the way, Mental Floss is

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again coming in with all the facts.

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Super love, I mean, for some reason
that's what always comes up when I'm

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looking for cool, interesting facts.

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But They had released, or they were
wanting to release Teen Witch as a,

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like, an offshoot of Teen Wolf and
have the same kind of font, logo,

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poster, style, um, you know, maybe
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aud audiences, uh, for comparison.

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But once they made the movie, they
realized it kind of sits on its own.

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It was its own thing, and so they
didn't end up kind of partnering them.

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Well, that makes a little more
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font, even the font on the, the,
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It's, it's, it's wild how they had
that common, they had that, uh,

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crossover and then, and then cut it,
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Yeah, didn't end up having like
as much of a crossover, but yeah.

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So tell us, um, the plot, like
what's the plot of, of Teen Witch?

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And,

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is what I loved.

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I watched it when I was younger, so
this is me bringing it back and kind of

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doing the whole watch a movie from your
childhood and see how does it hold up?

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How do I feel about it now as an adult?

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And I loved like, Opening sequence,
there's the whole 80s MTV music vibes with

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mist and, you know, the hair is rocking.

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There's glitter, slow motion
walking, all that good stuff.

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It's so 80s.

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It's fantastic.

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um, let's not forget that the, um,
the music right here in the beginning.

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Is this when we hear, what's
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We hear, uh, the, the rap song here
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And I believe it's the high school blues.

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Yeah, High School Blues, these
three white boys rappin And, you

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know what's interesting is, there
was no soundtrack to the movie.

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They didn't, even though there's a
couple of musical numbers, kind of.

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There's cheerleaders dancing
in the, um, in the locker room.

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Oh yeah.

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number about boys.

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I like boys, or

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This was a, it was a musical.

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There was a musical going

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Yeah, but they didn't make a soundtrack.

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They didn't record anything
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And so they had to redo it years later
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people that redid the music, and then
they could release those, um, they even

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did a Teen Witch, um, they tried to do
a Teen Witch musical, maybe on Broadway.

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Um, Will Ferrell was
involved, Kristen Wiig.

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Some people were gonna, um, kind
of revive Teen Witch as a musical.

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I think that there's actually,
uh, a teen witch live.

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If it's not still there, it was
maybe a couple of years ago at the

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Groundlings Theater in Los Angeles.

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yeah.

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Might still be there, not sure.

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Um, but it's, it's, uh, very,
it's very obvious to me also.

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This was one of the first movies that,
for the white kids, sure, we look,

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now, yeah, it's, it's, it's hilarious.

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You look back at these, these
three rappers, and here's, I got

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the lyrics, here's taking our
time when we're feeling cool.

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Don't really need a bag hanging at school.

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It's okay.

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We got nothing to lose.

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Can't you see, baby?

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It's the high school blues.

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Now, like,

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sure, I love it.

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I laughed.

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I thought it was great.

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But, you know what I gotta do is give
credit here because this is one of

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the first movies that I can recall
that did not stereotype whoever

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was on the other side of the music.

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If you would have seen a group
of white kids in another movie,

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it would have been rock music.

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It would have been Fast
Times at Ridgemont High.

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It wouldn't have been hip hop music.

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I really gotta give a
shout out right there.

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And give credit to whoever's decision
that was as corny as it looks.

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corny.

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I, yeah,

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did, I did appreciate, I had
an appreciation for that.

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that's awesome.

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I think I would have maybe paid money to
see you watch that for the first time.

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Oh, I'm going to tell you now.

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Okay.

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So we haven't told the people
this is, this is the first

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time I have seen this movie

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Okay.

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was my first watch of

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Love it.

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Um, I will say that I had it on and
maybe I leaned over for a minute

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and I was looking at something else.

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And part hit and I was like,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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And I hit, I grabbed the, I grabbed
the controller here on the Apple TV.

242
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And I, I had to run it
back and start it over.

243
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I mean, I pulled up the
lyrics for it, Courtney.

244
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I mean,

245
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Yeah.

246
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Yeah, definitely.

247
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I think the music is where it's at with,

248
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It's in my,

249
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you.

250
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I think you, yeah, you'll
pay attention to that.

251
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And by the way, we're talking
about the musical numbers,

252
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the, uh, the cheerleader dance.

253
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I like boys.

254
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They do in the locker room.

255
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That is the only appearance
you'll see of Rita Wilson, who

256
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was one of the dancers there.

257
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no way.

258
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Yeah.

259
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So then I thought, thinking back at when
I watched this movie when I was a kid,

260
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I was like, yeah, I remember that movie.

261
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I only remember one person in it.

262
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I, I thought everyone else is
probably like a no name person.

263
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You probably, they probably
weren't in anything else.

264
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I couldn't remember
anything about anyone else.

265
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The only person I remember from it was,
um, see her name, Zelda Rubinstein.

266
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

267
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Cause I love the poltergeist movie.

268
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I mean, she's infamous
for being the medium and.

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This house is clear.

270
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Yeah, yeah, oh absolutely.

271
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Yeah, that's, maybe, I think you
could be a good remake for, if

272
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they remake the Poltergeist, maybe
you could step into that role.

273
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Sign me up.

274
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Yeah, I think that'd be
you, cause that, what, that

275
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I love her.

276
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what you just did there, that's,
that's, Hey, that's top notch, Courtney.

277
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That's Oscar award winning.

278
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Yeah.

279
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Well, she's adorable.

280
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She's four foot three.

281
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She's got that adorable voice and she is
hilarious in this movie as Madam Serena.

282
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I love her.

283
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And I remembered her being in it,
but then I look at the rest of the

284
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cast and there's Robin Lively, right?

285
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We talked about how it's a Robin in
this movie and a Robin in The Craft.

286
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Sorry if I spoiled it, that's the
other movie we're doing today.

287
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If they hadn't figured
it out by now, then yeah.

288
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yeah, well, and it's interesting
because I was like, Oh, you

289
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know, this girl's cute, whatever.

290
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And I'm looking up the,
you know, the details.

291
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I'm like, Robin Lively
is Blake Lively's sister.

292
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What?

293
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How relevant is that right now?

294
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She's all over the news.

295
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Her husband, Ryan Reynolds,
they're so in right now.

296
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yeah.

297
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Oh yeah.

298
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And then you have, you got some other
heavy hitters in the movie as well.

299
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Like it's not, it doesn't, you know,
there's who else, who else did you,

300
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did you pick out before I get into

301
00:14:06,941 --> 00:14:08,791
Yeah, so this is what's super interesting.

302
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I always thought the brother
was kind of this like creepy.

303
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He does a really good job of
being this creepy, disgusting,

304
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annoying little brother.

305
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He was 14 at the time.

306
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Joshua Miller plays him.

307
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And what's so interesting about him
is he is like, Um, famous family.

308
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I'm reading here on, um, the Mental
Floss article about this movie,

309
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but he's the son of, uh, playwright
Jason Miller, who's Oscar nominated.

310
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Um, he has a grandfather, Bruno
Bernard, who's one of the world's first

311
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celebrity photographers, and he is, um,
in the new movie with Russell Crowe.

312
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It's the exorcism.

313
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I've seen, I saw the Exorcism movie.

314
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Now, I don't want to get too
far off topic, but that movie.

315
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Not too bad.

316
00:15:02,046 --> 00:15:02,896
I don't know if you've seen it yet.

317
00:15:02,946 --> 00:15:03,486
You should check that

318
00:15:03,666 --> 00:15:08,936
No, but I mean, what a perfect movie
to go right in through this genre that

319
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we're, you know, already talking about.

320
00:15:10,966 --> 00:15:14,156
He's in, he's, you know, he's rocking it.

321
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So, good for him.

322
00:15:16,776 --> 00:15:17,786
Good for Joshua Miller.

323
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That's all I can say about that.

324
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right.

325
00:15:19,386 --> 00:15:20,796
And what do you, who else you got there?

326
00:15:20,816 --> 00:15:21,346
Who else you got?

327
00:15:21,936 --> 00:15:26,466
Okay, so, uh, Louise, the main
character, played by Robin Lively,

328
00:15:26,476 --> 00:15:29,226
she's, uh, got a famous dad.

329
00:15:29,666 --> 00:15:33,116
I know when we were, like, watching,
I kept thinking, he looks so familiar.

330
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Who is he?

331
00:15:34,656 --> 00:15:39,596
And then it's funny because in the
craft to connect those movies, there's a

332
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scene where they're watching Bewitched.

333
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Oh, and he's, ah, I see.

334
00:15:45,286 --> 00:15:45,956
Look at you making a

335
00:15:45,976 --> 00:15:49,606
Dick Sargent, it plays, uh,
Louise's father, he's Darren

336
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Stevens from Bewitched.

337
00:15:50,886 --> 00:15:53,126
And I know, I don't want to get
too far off topic, but we don't

338
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talk about Bewitched in this movie.

339
00:15:55,056 --> 00:15:59,356
Witch movie project because it's a
TV show, but I will say one thing.

340
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I watched a lot of Bewitched when
I was a kid, lots of Bewitched.

341
00:16:03,296 --> 00:16:07,476
And I always felt so frustrated
that Darren would not let his

342
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wife practice her witchcraft.

343
00:16:09,556 --> 00:16:10,816
She's a witch, Darren.

344
00:16:11,066 --> 00:16:12,526
Kay, you're married to a witch.

345
00:16:13,106 --> 00:16:14,496
How is, how fair is that?

346
00:16:14,936 --> 00:16:19,076
Just, just take advantage of the fact
that you have this amazing, awesome wife

347
00:16:19,136 --> 00:16:21,896
and stop trying to harsh her vibe, right?

348
00:16:22,196 --> 00:16:22,606
Right.

349
00:16:22,656 --> 00:16:23,186
I mean,

350
00:16:23,806 --> 00:16:25,246
That's all I have to say about that, okay?

351
00:16:25,286 --> 00:16:27,116
I just had to, I just
had to rant for a second.

352
00:16:27,256 --> 00:16:28,406
You can rant all you want.

353
00:16:29,016 --> 00:16:30,776
it irritated me so much as a kid.

354
00:16:30,786 --> 00:16:35,196
Here was little five year old Courtney
watching Nick at Night, Bewitched, and

355
00:16:35,196 --> 00:16:38,676
I was like, Why is he such a jerk to his

356
00:16:38,976 --> 00:16:39,806
Hold it down.

357
00:16:40,096 --> 00:16:43,726
That's just, we can get into
that about how society's been.

358
00:16:44,286 --> 00:16:44,966
Know what we better not?

359
00:16:45,951 --> 00:16:46,701
Yeah, well,

360
00:16:46,716 --> 00:16:46,986
rant?

361
00:16:47,321 --> 00:16:51,001
that's, that's, that is, there's
a lot I could say about that.

362
00:16:51,001 --> 00:16:51,691
I could go on for a

363
00:16:51,746 --> 00:16:53,406
yeah, so let's not do that

364
00:16:53,511 --> 00:16:55,861
was in both movies, I
wanted to point that out.

365
00:16:55,971 --> 00:16:59,651
But yeah, he plays her dad, so
he makes a couple of appearances

366
00:16:59,691 --> 00:17:03,481
in this movie, so that's kind of
a little cameo nod to Bewitched.

367
00:17:04,031 --> 00:17:04,831
It's kind of cute.

368
00:17:05,196 --> 00:17:06,586
Wow, that's a great one there.

369
00:17:06,696 --> 00:17:07,356
What else you got?

370
00:17:07,366 --> 00:17:08,026
Who else you got?

371
00:17:08,476 --> 00:17:09,116
I like this.

372
00:17:09,116 --> 00:17:10,056
Let's see what else you got.

373
00:17:10,611 --> 00:17:16,001
So, I've been dying to ask
you, so, In this movie, she's

374
00:17:16,101 --> 00:17:17,771
finding out she turned 16.

375
00:17:17,781 --> 00:17:22,551
She's getting powers for her, uh,
a lot of movies about teen witches

376
00:17:22,551 --> 00:17:25,421
are kind of along those lines that
there's a theme there where it's

377
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like you reach a certain age, you're
going to come into your powers.

378
00:17:28,941 --> 00:17:32,141
And that's what Louise is discovering
about herself, but she's centering

379
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it around how much she has this
crush on this football player boy.

380
00:17:36,711 --> 00:17:40,081
He's the popular boy in school
and she wants to get him.

381
00:17:40,471 --> 00:17:43,531
Did you recognize him, Brad?

382
00:17:43,886 --> 00:17:44,536
I did not.

383
00:17:46,346 --> 00:17:46,766
I did not.

384
00:17:46,806 --> 00:17:49,516
I, I, I, not off the top of my head.

385
00:17:49,556 --> 00:17:50,076
I did not.

386
00:17:51,736 --> 00:17:51,916
I

387
00:17:51,986 --> 00:17:56,886
of your favorite shows, he makes a cameo
appearances in one of your favorite shows.

388
00:17:57,246 --> 00:17:58,146
Oh, uh,

389
00:18:01,016 --> 00:18:02,606
was this the Boy Meets World?

390
00:18:03,196 --> 00:18:03,696
No,

391
00:18:03,996 --> 00:18:04,276
Cause I

392
00:18:04,576 --> 00:18:07,266
but you are, you are on
the right, the right page.

393
00:18:07,326 --> 00:18:07,836
Okay.

394
00:18:08,146 --> 00:18:15,046
So if you noticed, um, Brad,
Brad's played by Dan Gothier.

395
00:18:15,446 --> 00:18:15,766
Gothier?

396
00:18:15,766 --> 00:18:16,826
I think I'm saying that right.

397
00:18:17,946 --> 00:18:21,876
Um, he makes an appearance on a
couple of episodes of Friends.

398
00:18:22,846 --> 00:18:23,216
No way!

399
00:18:23,251 --> 00:18:24,891
As Chip Douglas.

400
00:18:25,411 --> 00:18:25,441
Chip!

401
00:18:25,971 --> 00:18:26,181
Chip!

402
00:18:28,481 --> 00:18:28,721
Right?

403
00:18:29,341 --> 00:18:32,381
Monica goes out on a date with
Chip and he used to date Rachel.

404
00:18:32,381 --> 00:18:32,691
Do

405
00:18:33,756 --> 00:18:34,236
I didn't

406
00:18:34,361 --> 00:18:34,901
remember him?

407
00:18:35,266 --> 00:18:36,776
I did not even put that together.

408
00:18:36,786 --> 00:18:37,686
That's insane.

409
00:18:38,101 --> 00:18:38,771
I know!

410
00:18:38,861 --> 00:18:39,961
Blows your mind.

411
00:18:40,471 --> 00:18:41,071
So

412
00:18:41,576 --> 00:18:44,736
I can pull up one even, even
crazier here for myself, and I'm

413
00:18:44,736 --> 00:18:46,036
gonna have to put this out there.

414
00:18:47,716 --> 00:18:56,656
Zelda and Mandy, who plays Polly
in, in, in the movie, they were in a

415
00:18:56,666 --> 00:19:02,431
little, little lesser known spinoff
of Cheers called The Tortellis.

416
00:19:04,641 --> 00:19:07,341
There's only very, very few
people have ever seen that.

417
00:19:07,341 --> 00:19:07,931
And me being

418
00:19:07,961 --> 00:19:09,561
Oh my gosh!

419
00:19:09,861 --> 00:19:10,621
Cheers related.

420
00:19:11,031 --> 00:19:13,541
And they're in that, it's
called the Tortellis.

421
00:19:13,541 --> 00:19:17,201
And it was a spinoff of
Carla and her family.

422
00:19:17,341 --> 00:19:19,201
And it only lasted a couple episodes.

423
00:19:19,801 --> 00:19:23,351
Believe me, that's, that's, that's
knowledge that I'm pulling out.

424
00:19:23,351 --> 00:19:23,691
So,

425
00:19:24,381 --> 00:19:27,331
I totally thought I recognized her.

426
00:19:27,971 --> 00:19:28,221
Yes!

427
00:19:29,101 --> 00:19:29,631
that's them.

428
00:19:29,741 --> 00:19:30,131
Yeah, Polly!

429
00:19:31,361 --> 00:19:33,241
The girl who plays Polly.

430
00:19:33,301 --> 00:19:33,541
Mandy.

431
00:19:33,701 --> 00:19:34,531
Mandy Engber.

432
00:19:34,681 --> 00:19:35,341
Engber is their

433
00:19:35,361 --> 00:19:35,661
Yes.

434
00:19:36,191 --> 00:19:39,221
So she is, um, uh, she
has had some quotes.

435
00:19:39,411 --> 00:19:43,931
Uh, this was like, she called this her
worst summer job was filming Teen Witch.

436
00:19:43,996 --> 00:19:44,936
Oh, I believe it.

437
00:19:44,976 --> 00:19:45,686
I believe in

438
00:19:45,731 --> 00:19:51,401
so embarrassed about the, um, top
that rap that she gives in the movie.

439
00:19:51,411 --> 00:19:53,421
She says, that's on the internet forever.

440
00:19:53,571 --> 00:19:54,731
She will never live it down.

441
00:19:55,026 --> 00:19:55,246
Right?

442
00:19:55,546 --> 00:19:58,866
I hate to tell her, but there's way worse
stuff out there on the internet than that.

443
00:19:58,916 --> 00:20:01,016
So, she doesn't have much to worry about.

444
00:20:01,016 --> 00:20:02,036
We love it, Mandy.

445
00:20:02,076 --> 00:20:02,836
That was Mandy, right?

446
00:20:02,836 --> 00:20:03,076
Yeah.

447
00:20:03,776 --> 00:20:04,466
I love it.

448
00:20:04,866 --> 00:20:08,716
Okay, so we're, we're,
the plot is super simple.

449
00:20:08,726 --> 00:20:12,356
We're not really following along with the
movie and that's okay because, honestly,

450
00:20:12,356 --> 00:20:15,286
it's just girl comes into her powers.

451
00:20:15,586 --> 00:20:18,556
This object, this necklace finds her.

452
00:20:18,616 --> 00:20:21,546
She has this witchy shop
that she keeps going back to.

453
00:20:21,546 --> 00:20:27,406
Madam Serena is there to kind of
be her guide and her mentor and

454
00:20:27,696 --> 00:20:30,409
how to, um, Use these powers.

455
00:20:30,971 --> 00:20:34,551
I love Madam Serena because she's
over there like, I'm going to use this

456
00:20:34,571 --> 00:20:36,521
young girl's powers to get me some.

457
00:20:36,811 --> 00:20:40,251
And she turns a frog into a
handsome young man for herself.

458
00:20:40,686 --> 00:20:43,196
Yeah, and what did she bring
in on that, on that plate?

459
00:20:43,196 --> 00:20:45,346
I saw, I saw a bong on there.

460
00:20:45,346 --> 00:20:45,716
I'm like, what?

461
00:20:45,746 --> 00:20:47,886
And she's like, I never
do this for people.

462
00:20:47,886 --> 00:20:49,721
And I'm like, whoa, wait a minute now.

463
00:20:50,046 --> 00:20:51,086
Like 1989.

464
00:20:51,286 --> 00:20:53,926
She's, she's, yeah.

465
00:20:54,196 --> 00:20:54,766
What was it?

466
00:20:55,406 --> 00:20:56,116
Yeah, I know.

467
00:20:56,191 --> 00:20:57,051
She's pretty hip.

468
00:20:57,101 --> 00:20:57,841
I gotta say.

469
00:20:57,841 --> 00:20:58,251
Yeah.

470
00:20:58,671 --> 00:21:02,699
I love the scene where she's, she's
talking kind of consoling Louise.

471
00:21:02,923 --> 00:21:07,511
Louise is kind of, uh, you know, going
through a rough time and she's like,

472
00:21:07,776 --> 00:21:11,946
Pats her lap, and they, she goes to
sit on her lap, but she's like, way

473
00:21:11,966 --> 00:21:15,876
bigger than her, so they have to
switch places because they laugh, like,

474
00:21:15,935 --> 00:21:18,826
she's gonna go sit on her lap instead.

475
00:21:19,741 --> 00:21:21,481
So you gave the plot right there.

476
00:21:21,481 --> 00:21:26,841
And basically if you take what you
said and mix that in with cheesy

477
00:21:26,841 --> 00:21:28,801
special effects and some catchy tunes,

478
00:21:29,356 --> 00:21:29,696
Yep.

479
00:21:29,841 --> 00:21:31,806
the movie, like that's it,
that's, that's what you have.

480
00:21:32,456 --> 00:21:32,836
Yep.

481
00:21:33,536 --> 00:21:38,526
Which is interesting because I,
again, did not think about all these

482
00:21:38,703 --> 00:21:44,406
parallels, but the craft, Our second
movie, having all these little things

483
00:21:44,406 --> 00:21:48,196
that kind of connect where it's like
there's a scene, quite a few scenes

484
00:21:48,206 --> 00:21:52,166
actually with the kind of popular
cheerleader girls in the locker room.

485
00:21:53,066 --> 00:22:00,966
You've got the witchy shop with a sort of
mentor like character that is consoling.

486
00:22:02,536 --> 00:22:02,966
Robin.

487
00:22:03,276 --> 00:22:08,826
Tunny, the, uh, who plays Sarah, um,
when she's struggling with her powers

488
00:22:08,846 --> 00:22:12,206
and what's going on in her life, she goes
back to the witchy shop and gets consoled.

489
00:22:12,226 --> 00:22:16,526
I mean, this is like, it's so interesting
because you take Teen Witch, you make it

490
00:22:16,536 --> 00:22:21,706
darker and more goth and a little bit of
horror in there and you get the craft.

491
00:22:22,006 --> 00:22:22,386
exactly.

492
00:22:22,866 --> 00:22:25,036
And you throw a snake in
there too, and that's it.

493
00:22:25,036 --> 00:22:27,416
And that's what's always kept
me from watching the craft.

494
00:22:27,416 --> 00:22:28,746
I've, I've, I've watched it.

495
00:22:29,696 --> 00:22:32,616
Are we, before we hop, are
we done with Teen Witch?

496
00:22:32,616 --> 00:22:35,016
Do you have a final thought on
that before we get to our, to the

497
00:22:35,016 --> 00:22:37,756
craft and my phobia of snakes?

498
00:22:38,416 --> 00:22:38,836
Yeah.

499
00:22:38,906 --> 00:22:39,236
Okay.

500
00:22:39,236 --> 00:22:42,756
So we'll, we'll, we'll let you
rest for a second more, um,

501
00:22:42,946 --> 00:22:43,386
Cause I'm, you

502
00:22:43,536 --> 00:22:44,566
up on Teen Witch.

503
00:22:44,906 --> 00:22:46,506
I had a couple of notes here.

504
00:22:47,126 --> 00:22:51,586
Um, I loved, uh, when she's learning
how to use her powers and she's learning

505
00:22:51,586 --> 00:22:55,656
how to use the words, the will, the
way, all the things that I teach about

506
00:22:55,656 --> 00:22:57,766
magic and how that actually plays out.

507
00:22:58,406 --> 00:23:03,716
Um, she's calling the winds, um, you know,
kind of practicing these spells, learning

508
00:23:03,716 --> 00:23:05,236
how to get a little stronger with them.

509
00:23:06,806 --> 00:23:10,906
Again, she uses glamor magic like
they do in the craft where she makes

510
00:23:10,906 --> 00:23:13,186
herself up to be really super popular.

511
00:23:13,186 --> 00:23:13,616
Cute.

512
00:23:14,106 --> 00:23:19,846
Her 80's style when she is
dressing up, it's, it's, Absolutely

513
00:23:20,526 --> 00:23:22,756
gorgeous 80s style outfits.

514
00:23:22,856 --> 00:23:27,756
I mean, I would absolutely wear some of
those outfits today, but Robin Lively

515
00:23:27,776 --> 00:23:31,136
said that those were some of her real
outfits that her mom dressed her in.

516
00:23:32,186 --> 00:23:34,036
So she just showed up on set.

517
00:23:34,306 --> 00:23:36,036
Her mom just dressed her
and showed up on set.

518
00:23:36,166 --> 00:23:36,556
I mean, that's

519
00:23:36,756 --> 00:23:37,926
Her mom was in it.

520
00:23:37,956 --> 00:23:39,456
Like her mom had it going on.

521
00:23:39,466 --> 00:23:41,146
She knew exactly what to put her in.

522
00:23:41,156 --> 00:23:44,506
And she had like in one scene, she
had like the one jeweled earring.

523
00:23:45,406 --> 00:23:46,906
It was like just on one side.

524
00:23:47,356 --> 00:23:49,426
I almost wore that today
just for fun, but I was like,

525
00:23:50,116 --> 00:23:52,196
I'm kind of disappointed that
you didn't put that on today.

526
00:23:52,306 --> 00:23:53,486
yeah, just one earring.

527
00:23:55,466 --> 00:23:57,946
Yeah, oh, just peak, peak 80s style.

528
00:23:57,986 --> 00:23:59,416
Just amazing.

529
00:23:59,776 --> 00:24:04,176
Um, but I wrote down, uh, the
whole thing, the whole time.

530
00:24:04,516 --> 00:24:08,366
Kind of the, the theme here
was she's doing all this to get

531
00:24:08,366 --> 00:24:11,616
the attention of this guy, this
football player, this popular guy.

532
00:24:12,151 --> 00:24:16,761
This is kind of, um, 16 Candles,
uh, she's driving around in his cool

533
00:24:16,761 --> 00:24:20,511
sports car that's a convertible and
she's, you know, she's trying to get

534
00:24:20,511 --> 00:24:24,491
the guy Brad, but there is something
that just doesn't feel right.

535
00:24:25,081 --> 00:24:26,371
None of it feels real.

536
00:24:26,401 --> 00:24:30,601
She knows that this isn't her real
self and that she's kind of getting

537
00:24:30,601 --> 00:24:35,836
his attention based on, uh, You
know, kind of false pretenses.

538
00:24:36,776 --> 00:24:40,686
And, uh, I wrote down, this is how
I feel when I wear false eyelashes.

539
00:24:43,336 --> 00:24:48,316
Every time I've tried to wear fake
nails or fake eyelashes, I feel

540
00:24:48,316 --> 00:24:51,586
like I'm walking around as a fraud.

541
00:24:53,041 --> 00:24:56,541
And I have to tell everybody, I
literally, my friends could tell you,

542
00:24:56,541 --> 00:24:59,421
I go to like a party or something
and I'm wearing like fake nails.

543
00:24:59,461 --> 00:25:00,701
They're like, Oh, I love your nails.

544
00:25:00,701 --> 00:25:01,571
And I go, they're not real.

545
00:25:02,921 --> 00:25:03,451
They're not real.

546
00:25:04,646 --> 00:25:06,436
You just have to do it.

547
00:25:06,446 --> 00:25:07,576
You just have to do that, huh?

548
00:25:08,981 --> 00:25:12,131
Do not like the feeling of
like, this isn't actually me.

549
00:25:12,501 --> 00:25:14,041
This isn't actually who I am.

550
00:25:14,081 --> 00:25:15,781
So I get that.

551
00:25:15,801 --> 00:25:19,281
And I think that's a great message
as a teen movie anyways, to be

552
00:25:19,281 --> 00:25:23,501
like, Hey, you can doll yourself
up all you want, express yourself.

553
00:25:23,531 --> 00:25:27,511
Just know that when you are true to
yourself, that's when it really matters.

554
00:25:27,511 --> 00:25:27,716
Right.

555
00:25:28,016 --> 00:25:28,916
Oh, I love that.

556
00:25:29,196 --> 00:25:30,236
I love that.

557
00:25:30,236 --> 00:25:31,736
That's a great message there, right?

558
00:25:32,941 --> 00:25:36,041
So at the end, I mean, she
kind of gives up the power.

559
00:25:36,061 --> 00:25:38,821
She gives up the necklace, but
she's like, I'm just going to be me.

560
00:25:39,241 --> 00:25:41,141
And I'm going to make sure
that Brad likes me for me.

561
00:25:42,224 --> 00:25:43,581
Um, she still gets the guy.

562
00:25:43,961 --> 00:25:44,881
She's a prom.

563
00:25:44,941 --> 00:25:45,821
They get to dance.

564
00:25:46,361 --> 00:25:50,971
By the way, Robin Lively, uh, said
that she reenacted the dance scene at

565
00:25:50,971 --> 00:25:54,721
the prom for Blake and Ryan's wedding.

566
00:25:55,106 --> 00:25:55,896
No way.

567
00:25:57,261 --> 00:25:58,261
Just a side note.

568
00:25:58,466 --> 00:25:58,696
And we

569
00:25:58,701 --> 00:25:58,911
a little

570
00:25:58,976 --> 00:25:59,426
invited?

571
00:26:00,301 --> 00:26:00,611
I know.

572
00:26:02,371 --> 00:26:03,271
We'll tag them.

573
00:26:03,761 --> 00:26:05,541
We'll be invited next time.

574
00:26:05,701 --> 00:26:06,391
We love Blake.

575
00:26:06,421 --> 00:26:06,801
We love Ryan.

576
00:26:06,831 --> 00:26:08,211
We went to Deadpool.

577
00:26:08,231 --> 00:26:09,831
We love, we love all that.

578
00:26:09,926 --> 00:26:10,436
Yeah.

579
00:26:10,516 --> 00:26:10,976
Yeah.

580
00:26:11,726 --> 00:26:15,146
I gotta say for my first watch,
this movie was incredible.

581
00:26:15,146 --> 00:26:16,416
I'm going to definitely watch it again.

582
00:26:16,936 --> 00:26:22,006
I love, I love like the,
the high school stuff.

583
00:26:22,006 --> 00:26:22,956
I love the high school.

584
00:26:24,136 --> 00:26:26,766
Movies that it's the nostalgia.

585
00:26:27,226 --> 00:26:28,036
It's all of that.

586
00:26:28,056 --> 00:26:31,276
It brings back some of your own
memories, but at the same time you're

587
00:26:31,276 --> 00:26:32,686
like, my school didn't look like that.

588
00:26:32,696 --> 00:26:33,666
It didn't look perfect.

589
00:26:34,116 --> 00:26:39,876
And then there's all the stuff that comes
along with the teenager, being a teenager.

590
00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:44,746
And I also think it's pretty funny
that None of them kids are kids.

591
00:26:45,246 --> 00:26:47,506
They're all 25 years old and more.

592
00:26:48,136 --> 00:26:48,546
Oh yeah.

593
00:26:48,556 --> 00:26:50,266
and, but they're playing it.

594
00:26:50,426 --> 00:26:52,434
And I love, but I did, I
really thought it was fun.

595
00:26:52,796 --> 00:26:56,776
It was honestly just like watching some
kids go to school and live life for the

596
00:26:56,776 --> 00:26:58,996
first, what, 30 minutes of the movie.

597
00:26:59,406 --> 00:27:02,376
Um, there's, you know, and
I was just enjoying it.

598
00:27:02,376 --> 00:27:04,506
I was like, ah, yeah,
this is, this is my vibe.

599
00:27:05,286 --> 00:27:07,136
And this is the one that's not scary.

600
00:27:07,516 --> 00:27:08,786
You can put this on with the kids on.

601
00:27:08,786 --> 00:27:11,691
Like, I thought this was, Solid choice.

602
00:27:12,496 --> 00:27:13,046
Oh yeah.

603
00:27:13,296 --> 00:27:14,226
Worth a watch.

604
00:27:14,266 --> 00:27:17,276
Worth, like, a family movie
night or something like that.

605
00:27:17,346 --> 00:27:23,726
And, uh, and then, as you talk about
high school experiences, that's where,

606
00:27:23,986 --> 00:27:32,106
um, in switching to the craft, this
is where I really, uh, Resonated.

607
00:27:32,296 --> 00:27:35,356
I was like, this is taking
me back to high school.

608
00:27:35,396 --> 00:27:36,134
So hardcore.

609
00:27:37,396 --> 00:27:41,386
And it's more realistic to me as my
high school experience than anything

610
00:27:41,386 --> 00:27:46,536
that was like Teen Witch or Saved by
the Bell or, uh, you know, this kind

611
00:27:46,536 --> 00:27:54,936
of like idealistic version of like, you
know, the skater kids and the whatever.

612
00:27:54,956 --> 00:27:59,706
It was like, yeah, my high school
experience was a lot more like the craft.

613
00:28:00,586 --> 00:28:02,656
Unfortunately, or
fortunately, I'm not sure.

614
00:28:03,371 --> 00:28:06,101
that's why you're here is
because you're the expert.

615
00:28:06,131 --> 00:28:08,981
You're the, you're my inside
expert on what's going on here.

616
00:28:09,311 --> 00:28:15,761
But I, I gotta say that they did a
great job in the craft of capturing

617
00:28:15,761 --> 00:28:22,271
that, that look, because I can't,
we're we're children from the nineties.

618
00:28:22,271 --> 00:28:23,231
We went to school in the nineties.

619
00:28:23,231 --> 00:28:25,211
I mean, we're, I'm, I'm
a child of the eighties.

620
00:28:26,491 --> 00:28:27,931
We're not gonna say
anything else about Ms.

621
00:28:27,931 --> 00:28:28,801
Courtney Pearl here.

622
00:28:30,051 --> 00:28:31,641
I'm hundreds of years old.

623
00:28:31,676 --> 00:28:32,516
What are you, you seven?

624
00:28:32,756 --> 00:28:33,056
What?

625
00:28:33,086 --> 00:28:33,956
How, how old are you?

626
00:28:34,366 --> 00:28:34,846
Um,

627
00:28:36,926 --> 00:28:40,186
so where was I going with that?

628
00:28:42,611 --> 00:28:44,551
Yeah, so the 90s.

629
00:28:44,851 --> 00:28:48,276
the nineties, like this,
this, the look they had.

630
00:28:49,616 --> 00:28:53,966
We all knew a group of these girls,
I, even now in my neighborhood that

631
00:28:53,966 --> 00:28:58,036
we're, we're in, I, I'll see a group of
girls walking down the, the sidewalk.

632
00:28:58,036 --> 00:28:58,516
Every once in a while.

633
00:28:58,516 --> 00:29:00,526
I'm like, oh, there goes the craft.

634
00:29:00,736 --> 00:29:04,906
You know, I , I automatically think
because there's, there's just this look.

635
00:29:05,961 --> 00:29:07,371
Is that what that's this is

636
00:29:07,501 --> 00:29:12,181
This movie was like the
birth of goth, right?

637
00:29:12,461 --> 00:29:17,931
Like that kind of look wasn't as
mainstream until this movie came out.

638
00:29:17,991 --> 00:29:24,701
And this became the black lipstick,
the, um, oh gosh, it's, they were in

639
00:29:24,731 --> 00:29:29,861
a Catholic school, so Catholic school
uniforms, but they each had their own

640
00:29:29,861 --> 00:29:33,901
way of wearing it that was just like
to their personality a little bit.

641
00:29:34,051 --> 00:29:38,611
it's almost like a fresh prince The fresh
prince of bel air when he had when he went

642
00:29:38,611 --> 00:29:43,551
to the prep school, but he had his jacket
on It was did you notice that their that

643
00:29:43,551 --> 00:29:49,731
their getup what they were wearing in the
movie went from kind of dull And then as

644
00:29:49,731 --> 00:29:55,521
they got powerful powerful in the movie
Started they started getting more makeup.

645
00:29:55,541 --> 00:29:59,421
They started getting did you notice
that because I picked up on yeah Yeah,

646
00:29:59,421 --> 00:30:03,666
and this was not this was probably
I gotta say, and I think I already

647
00:30:03,666 --> 00:30:06,766
mentioned it, but this is probably only
the second time I've ever seen this

648
00:30:06,766 --> 00:30:09,373
movie because I can't deal with snakes.

649
00:30:09,436 --> 00:30:12,886
I got a huge phobia it.

650
00:30:13,036 --> 00:30:13,726
I freeze up.

651
00:30:13,756 --> 00:30:19,516
I'm literally, I'm not afraid of, I
mean, sure I'm afraid of them, but it's

652
00:30:19,516 --> 00:30:22,556
not a, I can't tell myself to not be.

653
00:30:22,786 --> 00:30:25,286
If I see a picture of
one, I just freeze up.

654
00:30:25,306 --> 00:30:26,866
Just something in my body reacts.

655
00:30:27,836 --> 00:30:32,326
It's finally, I was able to power
through and watch the craft.

656
00:30:32,626 --> 00:30:33,136
shut your eyes.

657
00:30:33,156 --> 00:30:36,996
It's so funny that after like we talked
about Suspiria last week and we're talking

658
00:30:37,006 --> 00:30:42,986
about like the blood and gore of that
movie was so much and then the snakes

659
00:30:42,986 --> 00:30:45,426
in this movie are what does you in but

660
00:30:45,506 --> 00:30:45,736
it.

661
00:30:45,776 --> 00:30:46,076
That's the

662
00:30:46,166 --> 00:30:46,846
totally true.

663
00:30:46,846 --> 00:30:47,101
There's so much.

664
00:30:47,431 --> 00:30:50,461
You just, if you have a phobia,
you have a visceral reaction to it.

665
00:30:50,911 --> 00:30:54,781
And there is a scene where, when they're
getting ready to call, um, invoke the

666
00:30:54,781 --> 00:30:58,991
spirit, um, in that scene, and she's got
the snake in her hands, and she's like,

667
00:30:59,011 --> 00:31:00,831
they're very misunderstood creatures.

668
00:31:00,841 --> 00:31:02,091
They deserve respect.

669
00:31:02,191 --> 00:31:08,681
Um, I wrote down how, Uh, the
serpent is a very feminine symbol.

670
00:31:08,701 --> 00:31:15,441
It represents the goddess most often,
and even in, um, Christian or in the,

671
00:31:16,141 --> 00:31:21,791
uh, Hebrew Bible, the story of, um,
the snake tempting Adam, it was, uh,

672
00:31:23,226 --> 00:31:27,876
Believed to be a code or a symbol
of the goddess or of maybe perhaps

673
00:31:27,896 --> 00:31:33,946
Lilith, who was tempting Adam, not an
Eve, not just an actual literal snake.

674
00:31:34,309 --> 00:31:38,086
So, the snake or serpent
is a very feminine energy.

675
00:31:38,456 --> 00:31:42,726
So you're saying, if I get this right,
and maybe this explains a lot from my

676
00:31:42,726 --> 00:31:47,516
own high school, is that my phobia of
snakes means I'm just terrified of women.

677
00:31:48,056 --> 00:31:48,426
Is that what it is?

678
00:31:49,006 --> 00:31:49,366
Okay.

679
00:31:49,966 --> 00:31:50,976
Something to explore.

680
00:31:51,276 --> 00:31:51,906
That's why I was

681
00:31:51,916 --> 00:31:52,636
to think about.

682
00:31:53,116 --> 00:31:56,216
yeah, that's why I was so awkward
when I was, you know, approaching

683
00:31:56,406 --> 00:31:59,296
females in, in, in my early days.

684
00:31:59,406 --> 00:32:03,116
I mean, I asked my wife, I'm
still awkward approaching her now.

685
00:32:03,646 --> 00:32:03,846
So.

686
00:32:04,146 --> 00:32:08,316
Yeah, well, this, this movie, if this
movie isn't triggering to your high

687
00:32:08,316 --> 00:32:10,076
school days, it definitely was for me.

688
00:32:10,406 --> 00:32:15,496
Um, I took note of some moments that
were obviously references to very, like,

689
00:32:15,626 --> 00:32:18,776
sexist, misogynist, and racist comments.

690
00:32:19,426 --> 00:32:24,056
And I thought to myself, the 90s was
really the peak of that testosterone

691
00:32:24,076 --> 00:32:29,211
energy in high school, where it
was like, Okay to treat women, you

692
00:32:29,211 --> 00:32:32,941
know, use words like slut and whore
towards women to degrade them.

693
00:32:33,341 --> 00:32:36,461
And, uh, some of the comments
made to the girls when they're

694
00:32:36,461 --> 00:32:37,981
being bullied by other girls.

695
00:32:38,191 --> 00:32:39,921
It's just awful.

696
00:32:40,221 --> 00:32:40,686
it is.

697
00:32:40,726 --> 00:32:45,876
And I really do think you're,
you're onto something there because

698
00:32:47,206 --> 00:32:48,456
there were a lot of stuff said.

699
00:32:48,456 --> 00:32:49,256
There was, it was awful.

700
00:32:49,416 --> 00:32:55,306
The racism in the movie, honestly,
after researching it, the racism had

701
00:32:55,306 --> 00:33:00,306
to be written into the movie when
Rachel True got cast as Rochelle.

702
00:33:00,826 --> 00:33:03,506
Yes, and she was the first
one cast of the four girls.

703
00:33:04,066 --> 00:33:08,606
Yeah, so she wasn't too excited, too
thrilled about that, I don't believe,

704
00:33:08,606 --> 00:33:12,876
until later on and she understood,
but I'm kind of with her on that, I

705
00:33:12,876 --> 00:33:19,406
don't, I'm with her but at the same
time I do see it because it was a big,

706
00:33:21,696 --> 00:33:24,796
it's hard to say it's a big
undertone, but it was in the movie,

707
00:33:24,796 --> 00:33:26,581
it was there, it was relevant,

708
00:33:26,881 --> 00:33:27,151
there.

709
00:33:27,151 --> 00:33:27,541
Yeah.

710
00:33:27,841 --> 00:33:28,446
and it was there.

711
00:33:28,446 --> 00:33:28,466
Yeah.

712
00:33:28,466 --> 00:33:28,541
Yeah.

713
00:33:28,881 --> 00:33:30,621
It was there and it was uncomfortable.

714
00:33:31,591 --> 00:33:32,111
How about that?

715
00:33:32,121 --> 00:33:33,201
It was uncomfortable.

716
00:33:33,701 --> 00:33:37,671
That racism to me is more
uncomfortable than evil witches.

717
00:33:39,021 --> 00:33:40,511
Yeah, exactly.

718
00:33:40,521 --> 00:33:42,311
And I think that was kind of the point.

719
00:33:42,411 --> 00:33:48,781
Um, it's interesting because the
producer, uh, Doug Wick said that they

720
00:33:48,951 --> 00:33:53,201
forced them to have an R rating for this
movie, even though there was nothing in

721
00:33:53,201 --> 00:33:55,591
it other than teens practicing magic.

722
00:33:55,591 --> 00:34:00,451
They said teens practicing black magic was
the only reason they gave it an R rating.

723
00:34:00,451 --> 00:34:02,751
He said this is a modern
day witch burning.

724
00:34:02,751 --> 00:34:03,771
Ha ha ha.

725
00:34:04,551 --> 00:34:09,391
you, anything with the MPAA, you might as
well throw out the fucking window outside.

726
00:34:09,431 --> 00:34:11,401
I only, and I know I said F right there.

727
00:34:11,681 --> 00:34:15,971
I said, fucking, because the
MPAA would just censored it.

728
00:34:15,971 --> 00:34:22,271
And I'm don't get me started
on FCC or MPAA for any kind of

729
00:34:22,271 --> 00:34:27,251
ratings, because yeah, that's a
whole crooked thing in its own, but

730
00:34:27,911 --> 00:34:32,771
Well, in reality, this movie did
represent and show witchcraft in

731
00:34:32,771 --> 00:34:35,211
a probably more accurate light.

732
00:34:35,371 --> 00:34:40,501
Um, they had, um, consultants on set
that were Wiccan to make sure that they

733
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,511
were respectful of the Wiccan religion.

734
00:34:43,541 --> 00:34:46,971
And I do want to point out,
so in the beginning you see

735
00:34:46,971 --> 00:34:48,481
the pentacle symbol, right?

736
00:34:48,601 --> 00:34:51,891
And the pentacle is the star
without the circle around it,

737
00:34:52,571 --> 00:34:53,881
um, the five pointed star.

738
00:34:54,471 --> 00:34:57,681
The five pointed star with a
circle around it is a pentagram.

739
00:34:58,446 --> 00:35:03,816
But this is a representation, or it
comes in Christian as the five points

740
00:35:04,166 --> 00:35:08,486
where Jesus is nailed to the cross,
and it is a protection symbol in most,

741
00:35:09,546 --> 00:35:13,346
um, witchcraft or Wiccan come from.

742
00:35:14,236 --> 00:35:19,046
If you see it upside down with
the ram's head, that is typically

743
00:35:19,046 --> 00:35:20,766
used in Satanism or by Satanists.

744
00:35:21,626 --> 00:35:24,456
So when she asks them in the
beginning of the movie, when Sarah

745
00:35:24,466 --> 00:35:29,155
starts, she's, uh, brought into this
coven because they need a fourth.

746
00:35:29,236 --> 00:35:31,636
They've been trying to call the
four corners and they've been

747
00:35:31,646 --> 00:35:36,456
trying to invoke with, uh, And they
need a fourth person to do that.

748
00:35:36,956 --> 00:35:39,126
And they find out Sarah
is already powerful.

749
00:35:40,266 --> 00:35:42,226
And Sarah is not into all this.

750
00:35:42,276 --> 00:35:45,776
Like she has never been dabbled in
witchcraft or anything like that.

751
00:35:45,796 --> 00:35:48,286
So she's like, what is Manon?

752
00:35:48,326 --> 00:35:50,396
And what is, is it the devil?

753
00:35:50,436 --> 00:35:51,626
Or is that like God?

754
00:35:52,496 --> 00:35:54,776
She's, you know, kind of
trying to understand like most

755
00:35:54,776 --> 00:35:57,973
people who don't understand
witchcraft or, or what Wicca is.

756
00:35:58,886 --> 00:36:01,526
And, um, they're like,
no, it's, it's everything.

757
00:36:01,526 --> 00:36:04,976
It's, it's like if God and the
devil were playing football, Manon

758
00:36:04,986 --> 00:36:08,066
would be the field they play on
and the sun that shines on them.

759
00:36:08,181 --> 00:36:08,671
yeah.

760
00:36:09,536 --> 00:36:11,066
Wow, what a beautiful image.

761
00:36:11,086 --> 00:36:12,826
What a great way to describe it.

762
00:36:12,896 --> 00:36:15,391
Although they still use
the patriarchal hymn

763
00:36:15,691 --> 00:36:16,161
Yeah.

764
00:36:16,836 --> 00:36:20,426
in describing the deity of
Manon, but for the most part

765
00:36:20,741 --> 00:36:25,841
This was 1996, so they hadn't,
they hadn't crossed quite over

766
00:36:25,961 --> 00:36:27,341
completely to letting women

767
00:36:28,026 --> 00:36:28,646
to the goddess.

768
00:36:28,721 --> 00:36:30,301
be, be, be in stuff.

769
00:36:30,301 --> 00:36:30,471
Yeah.

770
00:36:30,751 --> 00:36:33,651
Um, no, I, that's, I love that.

771
00:36:33,661 --> 00:36:38,271
That's, that's, um, great, great insight.

772
00:36:38,641 --> 00:36:44,041
And much of that stuff, how
much of that was, was realistic?

773
00:36:44,041 --> 00:36:45,471
Like, I guess is a

774
00:36:45,636 --> 00:36:46,936
very accurate.

775
00:36:46,956 --> 00:36:50,326
I mean, even to today's standards,
like, so you go into one of these

776
00:36:50,326 --> 00:36:54,136
like witchcraft or witchy, uh, or
crystal shops or healing shops.

777
00:36:54,166 --> 00:36:57,496
I mean, they all kind of
overlap in a lot of ways.

778
00:36:57,556 --> 00:37:00,951
And so, You'll see a lot of
the same stuff that you saw in

779
00:37:00,951 --> 00:37:02,521
the witch shop when they go in.

780
00:37:02,891 --> 00:37:07,131
Um, Bonnie picks up, played by
Nev Campbell, by the way, picks

781
00:37:07,131 --> 00:37:11,391
up a journal that she wants, and
it has a triangle symbol on it.

782
00:37:11,601 --> 00:37:15,446
And, um, you know, it's just
a It could be a lot of things.

783
00:37:15,446 --> 00:37:19,856
I mean, it's just a triangle, but
represents perfectness and unity.

784
00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:26,816
It represents the element of fire
and it is the, um, masculine symbol.

785
00:37:27,546 --> 00:37:32,516
So, you know, there's a lot of like
little things in the background, things

786
00:37:32,526 --> 00:37:36,476
that you would see and the books that
she hands them about invoking the

787
00:37:36,476 --> 00:37:37,726
spirit or about using witchcraft.

788
00:37:37,876 --> 00:37:41,336
It's like, you can absolutely go
to witchy shops now and pick up a

789
00:37:41,336 --> 00:37:43,016
lot of really great information.

790
00:37:43,556 --> 00:37:45,856
So, Thierry?

791
00:37:45,876 --> 00:37:46,046
that.

792
00:37:46,156 --> 00:37:52,566
Now talking about the witchy shop,
that's Panpipes Magical Witch Shop.

793
00:37:53,076 --> 00:37:53,546
Yes.

794
00:37:54,016 --> 00:37:54,876
I have been there.

795
00:37:54,876 --> 00:37:56,566
It's on Santa Monica Boulevard

796
00:37:57,076 --> 00:37:58,046
Wow.

797
00:37:58,046 --> 00:37:58,476
Yeah.

798
00:37:58,776 --> 00:37:59,536
lived there for a while.

799
00:37:59,536 --> 00:38:03,966
Yeah, I have been, I've been, now I used
to dabble into the witch shops, not into

800
00:38:03,966 --> 00:38:07,786
anything other than going in and looking,
but yeah, I have been to Panpipes.

801
00:38:07,786 --> 00:38:09,946
I believe it is.

802
00:38:10,546 --> 00:38:14,886
And somebody, somebody from the
movie actually bought that store.

803
00:38:15,416 --> 00:38:15,796
Um,

804
00:38:16,096 --> 00:38:16,826
Oh, yeah.

805
00:38:16,826 --> 00:38:20,846
For, um, Farooza Balk, who plays Nancy,

806
00:38:21,806 --> 00:38:21,996
that's

807
00:38:22,036 --> 00:38:26,346
was not a pagan or wasn't even really
aware of pagan things until she did

808
00:38:26,346 --> 00:38:30,571
this movie and she realized this makes
a lot of sense and she became a pagan

809
00:38:30,626 --> 00:38:35,546
after filming this movie and she bought
that shop to save it from going under.

810
00:38:36,841 --> 00:38:37,401
it's still there.

811
00:38:37,401 --> 00:38:38,441
I believe it's still there.

812
00:38:38,561 --> 00:38:39,131
Um,

813
00:38:39,696 --> 00:38:40,986
she's incredible, by the way.

814
00:38:41,106 --> 00:38:41,476
I love

815
00:38:41,571 --> 00:38:42,851
like, like, I love that.

816
00:38:42,861 --> 00:38:43,651
I love that though.

817
00:38:43,681 --> 00:38:48,461
And then Let's get to a little bit of
the, the, the, the plot of the movie.

818
00:38:48,461 --> 00:38:48,861
I mean,

819
00:38:51,221 --> 00:38:53,661
it's almost the same as
we had in, in Teen Witch.

820
00:38:53,661 --> 00:38:57,121
It's teenage witchcraft
and kids in high school

821
00:38:57,226 --> 00:38:57,926
Yeah.

822
00:38:58,001 --> 00:38:58,541
fill in the

823
00:38:58,606 --> 00:39:01,636
How did you like the
soundtrack to this movie?

824
00:39:02,041 --> 00:39:04,541
This one was, this one was
a banger from the beginning.

825
00:39:05,816 --> 00:39:06,496
So good.

826
00:39:06,796 --> 00:39:10,371
track out of the gate was,
uh, what was the, what was it?

827
00:39:10,441 --> 00:39:11,381
It was, there's a

828
00:39:12,026 --> 00:39:13,986
I wrote down everything that I could.

829
00:39:14,061 --> 00:39:15,461
Portis head track in there.

830
00:39:15,461 --> 00:39:16,731
That was that hit hard.

831
00:39:17,306 --> 00:39:18,076
Jewel,

832
00:39:18,761 --> 00:39:19,521
yeah, like

833
00:39:19,821 --> 00:39:25,496
Juliana Hatfield, Letters
to Cleo, Space Hogs.

834
00:39:25,536 --> 00:39:27,396
I was just writing them
down as they were coming up.

835
00:39:27,396 --> 00:39:29,496
I'm like, oh, oh, that's a good one.

836
00:39:29,526 --> 00:39:30,426
Oh, that's another good one.

837
00:39:30,426 --> 00:39:34,966
So, I mean, if nothing else, you haven't
watched a movie yet, or this isn't

838
00:39:34,966 --> 00:39:37,036
your thing, go get the soundtrack.

839
00:39:37,046 --> 00:39:39,651
I think that's like Fantastic.

840
00:39:40,191 --> 00:39:42,851
was even, um, John Lennon
and Paul McCartney.

841
00:39:42,871 --> 00:39:45,941
Like, they're even on Tomorrow,
they did Tomorrow Never Knows.

842
00:39:46,596 --> 00:39:52,331
Um, the entire thing was You could
actually just Yeah, you should just

843
00:39:52,331 --> 00:39:53,221
get the soundtrack and let's do it.

844
00:39:53,611 --> 00:39:55,501
This was the soundtrack of the 90s.

845
00:39:56,541 --> 00:40:01,841
Um, speaking of that, the cast, um,
you'll notice a lot of people were in

846
00:40:02,041 --> 00:40:09,441
Scream, um, Robin Tunney that came from
Empire Records, um, uh, some of the same

847
00:40:09,441 --> 00:40:13,401
people that were in Clueless, you get
kind of like all those, in fact, Alicia

848
00:40:13,401 --> 00:40:19,376
Silverstone was, uh, Considered for
the part of Sarah before, but she was

849
00:40:19,581 --> 00:40:22,746
done with Clueless and she had another
project or something that she was doing.

850
00:40:23,366 --> 00:40:24,396
So, can you imagine?

851
00:40:24,696 --> 00:40:26,051
Yeah, what would that be like?

852
00:40:26,101 --> 00:40:26,641
I mean, she would've

853
00:40:26,736 --> 00:40:32,156
from Clueless as Cher and then
playing Sarah the Witch on The Craft.

854
00:40:33,401 --> 00:40:37,001
let's talk more about Manning.

855
00:40:38,006 --> 00:40:38,626
Mm hmm.

856
00:40:38,701 --> 00:40:39,431
Who is Manning?

857
00:40:40,876 --> 00:40:46,046
Um, well, a lot of this
comes from the Wiccan faith.

858
00:40:46,156 --> 00:40:54,266
So, like, If paganism was a indoctrinated
religion, Wicca would probably be it.

859
00:40:54,296 --> 00:40:56,686
And so a lot of people think
witch, they think Wicca.

860
00:40:56,736 --> 00:41:00,856
And a lot of what these girls are
practicing and what, um, the rule of

861
00:41:00,866 --> 00:41:05,206
three they talk about many times is
like, if you are pointing your finger

862
00:41:05,896 --> 00:41:10,476
at someone else casting spells, you
have three fingers pointed back at you.

863
00:41:10,706 --> 00:41:13,996
You'll get whatever you send out
into the universe three times.

864
00:41:14,631 --> 00:41:19,281
And whether that's an accurate
depiction of how energy works, um, I

865
00:41:19,281 --> 00:41:20,971
go into that a little bit on my show.

866
00:41:21,351 --> 00:41:27,171
But, uh, that's kind of like
a rule, and, um, so Wiccan has

867
00:41:27,171 --> 00:41:28,791
its definite, like, doctrine.

868
00:41:28,801 --> 00:41:35,751
It has its books that rules to
follow, um, you know, covens that

869
00:41:35,781 --> 00:41:37,991
you join, and there are leaderships.

870
00:41:38,651 --> 00:41:42,696
So Manon, I think, is Um,
coming from that tradition or

871
00:41:42,696 --> 00:41:44,046
coming from that belief system.

872
00:41:44,066 --> 00:41:47,156
So it's like they have their
deity that they worship.

873
00:41:47,206 --> 00:41:51,506
And when they say invoking
the spirit, um, in the movie,

874
00:41:51,526 --> 00:41:53,476
they're talking about his spirit.

875
00:41:53,486 --> 00:41:56,166
They're like invoking that
deity into their body,

876
00:41:56,361 --> 00:42:01,681
But Monon is not a real spirit
in the, in the Wiccan world.

877
00:42:02,241 --> 00:42:03,811
That's just made up for the movie, right?

878
00:42:04,486 --> 00:42:05,366
I believe so.

879
00:42:05,396 --> 00:42:06,826
But it's coming from a lot of them.

880
00:42:06,846 --> 00:42:10,956
They wanted to be very respectful
of the Wiccan tradition.

881
00:42:10,986 --> 00:42:12,936
So they didn't want anything to offend.

882
00:42:13,516 --> 00:42:15,176
The Wiccan people.

883
00:42:15,506 --> 00:42:26,406
Which, now which, which, W I C H, W H I C
H, goes to when they do the spells in the,

884
00:42:26,446 --> 00:42:28,296
in the movie, they're doing actual Wiccan,

885
00:42:29,446 --> 00:42:30,026
Mhm.

886
00:42:30,346 --> 00:42:31,326
casting, I guess.

887
00:42:32,106 --> 00:42:32,736
Yeah.

888
00:42:32,976 --> 00:42:37,586
I wrote down a lot of the chanting
that they do, and when they say, In

889
00:42:37,586 --> 00:42:42,516
perfect love, in perfect trust, And
as they're joining the circle to

890
00:42:42,556 --> 00:42:49,906
cast spells, Those are all usable
chants and spells that are used.

891
00:42:50,136 --> 00:42:51,536
As above, so below.

892
00:42:52,306 --> 00:42:58,446
that goes to real life, because an
official website, I don't know if

893
00:42:58,466 --> 00:43:01,176
you've looked or seen any of this,
but there's an official website.

894
00:43:01,736 --> 00:43:02,486
For the movie.

895
00:43:02,486 --> 00:43:07,166
And they talked about the crew
having strange and mysterious

896
00:43:07,206 --> 00:43:10,726
occurrences happen on set while
they were filming these scenes,

897
00:43:11,236 --> 00:43:11,896
Oh yeah.

898
00:43:13,796 --> 00:43:18,186
what happened was there was at one time,
a flock of bats was hovering over the set.

899
00:43:18,656 --> 00:43:22,376
There was times when the candles
would go out automatically,

900
00:43:23,266 --> 00:43:25,176
water started raising up

901
00:43:25,766 --> 00:43:26,066
Yeah!

902
00:43:26,486 --> 00:43:26,566
point.

903
00:43:26,756 --> 00:43:30,816
Like there's only when they
would do, uh, what was the line?

904
00:43:30,826 --> 00:43:35,896
Nancy says, man, and fill me right at that
exact moment is when the water started.

905
00:43:36,636 --> 00:43:39,166
There's no way that they were,
they weren't controlling the water.

906
00:43:39,216 --> 00:43:39,436
They

907
00:43:39,636 --> 00:43:39,736
Yes!

908
00:43:39,736 --> 00:43:40,014
Yes!

909
00:43:40,014 --> 00:43:40,291
Yes!

910
00:43:40,846 --> 00:43:41,476
yeah, that's

911
00:43:41,611 --> 00:43:45,091
They had a park ranger tell them
exactly where to set up their whole

912
00:43:45,091 --> 00:43:49,106
thing for the scene so that the water
wouldn't be in their way, and During

913
00:43:49,106 --> 00:43:52,756
that invoking the spirit scene, they
still had the water come up, the waves

914
00:43:52,756 --> 00:43:57,276
came up, and um, washed out the set.

915
00:43:57,276 --> 00:43:58,046
I

916
00:43:58,156 --> 00:44:01,326
was Andrew Fleming, the director, even
said that every time the girls started the

917
00:44:01,326 --> 00:44:05,566
ceremony and only when they would start
the ceremony, the waves would start coming

918
00:44:05,566 --> 00:44:08,726
up tremendously fast, pounding heavily.

919
00:44:08,726 --> 00:44:13,996
Then right when Nancy says her line,
Manon, feel me right at that exact moment.

920
00:44:14,006 --> 00:44:15,056
We lost power.

921
00:44:15,946 --> 00:44:17,096
It was very strange.

922
00:44:17,146 --> 00:44:19,276
That's, that's an exact
quote from Andrew Fleming.

923
00:44:20,426 --> 00:44:20,936
So that's.

924
00:44:21,026 --> 00:44:21,716
mean,

925
00:44:21,906 --> 00:44:22,886
There is something weird going on.

926
00:44:22,926 --> 00:44:27,766
Like, there's, you don't mess around
in there and do real witchcraft and

927
00:44:27,766 --> 00:44:31,476
not expect, they don't know, the
witches out there don't know, right?

928
00:44:31,496 --> 00:44:32,826
On the other dimension or whatever.

929
00:44:32,836 --> 00:44:33,676
How is that happening?

930
00:44:33,976 --> 00:44:34,466
How does that work?

931
00:44:35,316 --> 00:44:39,596
Do we have to communicate and say, hey,
we're going to do some chanting, we don't

932
00:44:39,606 --> 00:44:43,796
mean it, just for shits and giggles.

933
00:44:43,806 --> 00:44:46,836
Like, how do we convey that
to the other world there?

934
00:44:47,916 --> 00:44:49,806
I know that there are certain, um,

935
00:44:51,916 --> 00:44:57,676
recommended techniques, um, for cleansing
and warding, and anytime someone is

936
00:44:57,676 --> 00:45:02,398
going to cast a circle or, or, uh,
perform any kind of anything, even when

937
00:45:02,398 --> 00:45:08,026
I'm doing healing work, which is not
necessarily Witchcraft by any typical

938
00:45:08,026 --> 00:45:12,606
definition, but I personally don't
really see a whole lot of division.

939
00:45:13,086 --> 00:45:18,146
Anyway, um, you would want to kind
of set things up with your intention

940
00:45:18,176 --> 00:45:20,206
and you do warding and protecting.

941
00:45:20,426 --> 00:45:23,966
Um, when I'm reading tarot, I don't just
pull out my cards and just start doing it.

942
00:45:24,306 --> 00:45:27,846
I usually start with some kind of a
warding and protecting, a meditation,

943
00:45:27,896 --> 00:45:31,976
a drumming, um, a drawing of the
circle or the calling of the corners.

944
00:45:31,996 --> 00:45:33,526
There's a lot of different ways to do it.

945
00:45:34,656 --> 00:45:37,286
Um, setting your intention for
what you're about to do and

946
00:45:37,656 --> 00:45:39,266
saying, this is what I'm doing.

947
00:45:39,276 --> 00:45:43,146
This is the route, you know, I don't
want any harm to come to me or to anyone.

948
00:45:43,626 --> 00:45:46,026
Um, and that kind of thing, that
would have been a good idea.

949
00:45:46,026 --> 00:45:49,516
I don't know if they had anybody
doing that on set, but it sounds like,

950
00:45:49,716 --> 00:45:55,336
uh, definitely the power they were
influencing on what they were doing.

951
00:45:56,356 --> 00:45:57,656
It must've had an impact.

952
00:45:57,676 --> 00:46:02,316
I mean, as I said, um, the girl who
plays Nancy, She believed in it.

953
00:46:02,356 --> 00:46:06,426
Once she started doing this work
with the, with the crew on this

954
00:46:06,476 --> 00:46:09,886
movie, she was like, I, this is,
there's something real to this.

955
00:46:09,956 --> 00:46:12,496
There's something that I
really am feeling here.

956
00:46:13,146 --> 00:46:18,026
So with the heart, with the will and the
way and the words all happening all at

957
00:46:18,026 --> 00:46:22,446
once, I guess they couldn't escape those
strange things from happening, right?

958
00:46:22,501 --> 00:46:23,941
No,

959
00:46:24,996 --> 00:46:28,336
on the, back to the topic of the
Wiccan, because we're talking about it.

960
00:46:29,826 --> 00:46:31,076
Are all witches wicked?

961
00:46:33,676 --> 00:46:34,056
Okay.

962
00:46:34,476 --> 00:46:34,896
Okay.

963
00:46:35,401 --> 00:46:35,881
yes.

964
00:46:35,901 --> 00:46:37,961
I'm glad you asked that because I have
a lot of people that tell me they're

965
00:46:37,961 --> 00:46:39,489
like, how can you call yourself a witch?

966
00:46:39,661 --> 00:46:42,011
Like, so you're Wiccan and
I'm like, no, I'm not Wiccan.

967
00:46:42,031 --> 00:46:43,441
I'm a solitary practitioner.

968
00:46:43,941 --> 00:46:45,231
I'm not part of a coven.

969
00:46:45,261 --> 00:46:48,631
I practice witchcraft in
my own way, in my own time.

970
00:46:48,631 --> 00:46:53,751
And, um, and there are, You know,
plenty of people that do that and

971
00:46:53,761 --> 00:46:57,921
even being pagan doesn't necessarily
mean that you're witch or I think

972
00:46:57,921 --> 00:46:59,661
that there again is a lot of overlap.

973
00:46:59,671 --> 00:47:00,951
I think there's a lot of like,

974
00:47:01,666 --> 00:47:02,126
Yeah.

975
00:47:02,561 --> 00:47:05,371
you know, when you're doing energy
work and that kind of thing.

976
00:47:05,781 --> 00:47:08,361
Uh, and energy healing.

977
00:47:09,616 --> 00:47:13,306
Some people like to stay in their lane and
be like, Nope, I'm none of those things.

978
00:47:13,331 --> 00:47:16,966
I'm just an energy healer or
whatever, you know, their personal

979
00:47:16,966 --> 00:47:18,316
beliefs or spirituality is.

980
00:47:18,416 --> 00:47:22,846
But for me, um, yeah, I follow
a lot of people that are

981
00:47:22,946 --> 00:47:24,206
just solitary practitioners.

982
00:47:24,236 --> 00:47:26,316
They just practice witchcraft.

983
00:47:26,536 --> 00:47:26,936
So,

984
00:47:29,346 --> 00:47:35,516
Now tell me which branch of
witchcraft then does light as a

985
00:47:35,516 --> 00:47:37,096
feather stiff as a board come in?

986
00:47:37,126 --> 00:47:39,916
Because that scene had me shook.

987
00:47:40,866 --> 00:47:41,486
Where does that

988
00:47:41,786 --> 00:47:47,126
so, um, I would call that the coven
of all teenage girls at a sleepover.

989
00:47:48,076 --> 00:47:48,646
Right?

990
00:47:48,906 --> 00:47:51,476
And boys, because I definitely
tried light as a feather stiff as a

991
00:47:51,656 --> 00:47:52,096
They do?

992
00:47:52,496 --> 00:47:53,836
I never tried it.

993
00:47:53,846 --> 00:47:54,586
Did it work?

994
00:47:54,906 --> 00:47:55,846
that never happened.

995
00:47:55,966 --> 00:47:56,156
What

996
00:47:56,231 --> 00:48:00,471
No, I've heard so many stories of
friends who are like, Oh my gosh,

997
00:48:00,471 --> 00:48:01,991
I totally tried it and it worked.

998
00:48:02,611 --> 00:48:07,391
And I'm skeptical, but also
I'm kind of like, maybe it did.

999
00:48:07,641 --> 00:48:08,561
Maybe something happened.

1000
00:48:08,561 --> 00:48:09,111
I don't know.

1001
00:48:09,361 --> 00:48:10,791
I personally have never tried it.

1002
00:48:10,861 --> 00:48:14,471
I have not delved into the
kind of things that I do now,

1003
00:48:14,521 --> 00:48:16,251
um, until the last few years.

1004
00:48:16,421 --> 00:48:18,231
So I was not a teenage witch.

1005
00:48:19,126 --> 00:48:23,616
I, I would love if anybody out there
has done this or wants to do this.

1006
00:48:24,261 --> 00:48:24,981
With us.

1007
00:48:26,231 --> 00:48:27,011
got, we got to try this.

1008
00:48:27,021 --> 00:48:28,661
If you've seen it happening and really

1009
00:48:28,751 --> 00:48:29,131
all for

1010
00:48:29,151 --> 00:48:29,521
to hear it.

1011
00:48:29,901 --> 00:48:30,981
They, hit us up.

1012
00:48:31,181 --> 00:48:31,451
Hit us up.

1013
00:48:31,451 --> 00:48:32,731
I want to hear some stories on that.

1014
00:48:34,181 --> 00:48:34,571
Yeah.

1015
00:48:34,901 --> 00:48:37,271
that scene, and then when she
says, what's the line she says,

1016
00:48:37,821 --> 00:48:39,421
you got to try that or something?

1017
00:48:40,141 --> 00:48:40,531
Yeah.

1018
00:48:40,656 --> 00:48:41,356
Yeah, you do.

1019
00:48:41,356 --> 00:48:42,316
I'd love to try that.

1020
00:48:42,336 --> 00:48:45,496
And when she's like,
guys, it's not working.

1021
00:48:45,506 --> 00:48:49,826
And she's this far off the ground, that
scene was that that's when it that's

1022
00:48:49,826 --> 00:48:51,826
when the movie really got fun for me.

1023
00:48:52,236 --> 00:48:55,196
Um, and out of the, just the
high school part, it was like,

1024
00:48:55,236 --> 00:48:57,016
Oh, we're getting serious now.

1025
00:48:57,046 --> 00:48:59,146
Like, this is like, what's up?

1026
00:48:59,166 --> 00:48:59,556
Like, that's

1027
00:48:59,591 --> 00:49:02,591
Of all the spells you see in this
movie, I think Light is a Feather,

1028
00:49:02,591 --> 00:49:04,721
Stiff is a Board is the most relatable.

1029
00:49:04,851 --> 00:49:07,671
The most, like, oh, we've all tried that.

1030
00:49:07,901 --> 00:49:09,281
Like, kind of a thing.

1031
00:49:09,581 --> 00:49:10,511
And heard stories.

1032
00:49:10,581 --> 00:49:11,681
Like we said, it's a myth.

1033
00:49:11,701 --> 00:49:12,321
It's worked.

1034
00:49:12,321 --> 00:49:13,051
It's not worked.

1035
00:49:13,061 --> 00:49:14,691
It's, you know, I love that.

1036
00:49:14,701 --> 00:49:18,341
That's something that they brought
into the movie, like you said, that

1037
00:49:18,961 --> 00:49:22,231
related to everybody, and then they
go into the deeper, darker stuff.

1038
00:49:23,071 --> 00:49:25,041
And why are they doing that?

1039
00:49:25,051 --> 00:49:27,201
What is this battle between these witches?

1040
00:49:28,031 --> 00:49:32,091
And so this is, again,
taking you back to the 90s.

1041
00:49:32,411 --> 00:49:35,431
Those of us who remember that time
period and being in high school.

1042
00:49:36,011 --> 00:49:38,821
Um, I don't know if high school
is still like it was in the 90s.

1043
00:49:38,931 --> 00:49:41,381
Uh, I would like to think we've grown.

1044
00:49:41,401 --> 00:49:44,851
We're in an awakened,
um, era, time period.

1045
00:49:45,241 --> 00:49:47,121
Um, a new renaissance, if you will.

1046
00:49:47,481 --> 00:49:53,396
But in the 90s, there was a very Big
class distinction between the popular

1047
00:49:53,396 --> 00:49:59,026
kids, those that belong, those that
are accepted, and those that are not.

1048
00:49:59,496 --> 00:50:04,536
And, um, I don't know if, you know, a
lot of movies in this time period came

1049
00:50:04,536 --> 00:50:06,736
out that were like high school things.

1050
00:50:06,876 --> 00:50:12,986
Um, they came out kind of with that theme
of like, these are the weirdos, right?

1051
00:50:13,345 --> 00:50:16,806
Nancy is a self proclaimed
weirdo and they're bullied.

1052
00:50:17,161 --> 00:50:20,601
they even tell, when they're
on the bus, the, she's, he

1053
00:50:20,601 --> 00:50:22,271
says, look out for the weirdos.

1054
00:50:22,301 --> 00:50:23,751
We are those weirdos.

1055
00:50:23,771 --> 00:50:24,671
I love that.

1056
00:50:24,681 --> 00:50:25,221
That hit.

1057
00:50:25,876 --> 00:50:30,516
I wish I had the confidence of Nancy,
uh, In that, you know, when I was that

1058
00:50:30,516 --> 00:50:33,466
age, I wish I had the confidence to
just like have my little goth heart

1059
00:50:33,486 --> 00:50:36,106
be out there and, and be myself.

1060
00:50:36,346 --> 00:50:43,506
I was the theater kid, um, which is almost
the same kind of geek, but I was not into

1061
00:50:43,506 --> 00:50:45,096
like witchcraft and things like that yet.

1062
00:50:45,106 --> 00:50:54,361
But I, um, What I want to point
out with this is that witchcraft

1063
00:50:54,361 --> 00:50:59,121
in all of the centuries that we
bring it up in, it often stems from

1064
00:50:59,271 --> 00:51:02,271
a place of powerlessness, right?

1065
00:51:03,171 --> 00:51:10,044
Like, marginalized groups and
societies, um, you know, uh, Rochelle,

1066
00:51:10,356 --> 00:51:14,666
you know, being called names, racist
names by the bully who, by the way,

1067
00:51:14,666 --> 00:51:17,976
was played by, uh, Christine Taylor.

1068
00:51:17,986 --> 00:51:21,446
She's, uh, Ben Stiller's
wife, played Marsha Brady.

1069
00:51:21,556 --> 00:51:22,156
Love that.

1070
00:51:22,166 --> 00:51:22,596
look at you.

1071
00:51:22,596 --> 00:51:24,136
Hmm.

1072
00:51:24,436 --> 00:51:28,296
she is obviously bullying
and making her feel terrible.

1073
00:51:28,326 --> 00:51:32,886
And, um, and so what's a way to
feel like you can gain your power

1074
00:51:32,886 --> 00:51:36,226
back that you can feel like,
listen, I don't have to take this.

1075
00:51:36,796 --> 00:51:40,491
I don't have to, um, degrade myself.

1076
00:51:40,571 --> 00:51:45,674
Uh, like, witchcraft was a way, and I
talk about this a little bit in the first

1077
00:51:45,731 --> 00:51:50,331
episode of Practically Magic I decided
to do on curses, because I wanted to talk

1078
00:51:50,341 --> 00:51:52,701
about, well, is cursing necessarily bad?

1079
00:51:53,461 --> 00:51:55,801
Or is there a purpose for it sometimes?

1080
00:51:56,031 --> 00:52:00,291
And, um, and she does the spell with
the braid magic, where she takes her

1081
00:52:00,291 --> 00:52:02,861
hair, she braids it into her hair.

1082
00:52:03,151 --> 00:52:04,941
I, Love braid magic.

1083
00:52:04,951 --> 00:52:06,681
I participate in braid magic all the time.

1084
00:52:06,961 --> 00:52:11,841
It's when you're braiding your hair
and you braid in weave in spells or you

1085
00:52:12,021 --> 00:52:16,271
chant or you put your intentions into
what you're doing when you're braiding.

1086
00:52:16,281 --> 00:52:18,111
So I love that they show
that in the movie because

1087
00:52:18,186 --> 00:52:18,411
Hmm.

1088
00:52:18,546 --> 00:52:19,756
I got a whole head here now.

1089
00:52:19,766 --> 00:52:22,636
Hey, Courtney, I need my, I need some, um,

1090
00:52:22,936 --> 00:52:24,636
You need to start getting
into some braid magic.

1091
00:52:24,936 --> 00:52:25,416
brain magic.

1092
00:52:25,416 --> 00:52:25,896
I like that.

1093
00:52:25,896 --> 00:52:26,156
Go ahead.

1094
00:52:26,246 --> 00:52:26,516
Go ahead.

1095
00:52:26,536 --> 00:52:26,806
Go ahead.

1096
00:52:27,266 --> 00:52:31,436
Yeah, which is a lot of why like the
Nordic cultures and you'll see braiding

1097
00:52:31,456 --> 00:52:33,736
in like a lot of indigenous peoples.

1098
00:52:34,546 --> 00:52:38,016
Um, all over the world, not just
Native American, but all over

1099
00:52:38,016 --> 00:52:39,496
the world there's braiding hair.

1100
00:52:40,596 --> 00:52:44,066
which can be related
right to that braid magic.

1101
00:52:44,076 --> 00:52:47,241
Like you're not just braiding
because it's cute or whatever.

1102
00:52:47,306 --> 00:52:50,966
You're braiding because you're putting
in a spell of protection, a spell of

1103
00:52:50,966 --> 00:52:55,216
empowerment, or in this case, she's
cursing this girl who's bullying her.

1104
00:52:55,836 --> 00:52:58,809
And I think that a lot of the cursing
that starts out when they start going

1105
00:52:58,926 --> 00:53:01,356
dark, it's not necessarily dark.

1106
00:53:01,626 --> 00:53:06,316
It's just that these poor girls
are powerless and helpless to

1107
00:53:06,316 --> 00:53:10,356
these high school, you know,
feelings of not belonging, right?

1108
00:53:10,676 --> 00:53:11,216
Yeah.

1109
00:53:11,356 --> 00:53:18,776
Now you, going back to Teen Witch, like
you see the difference in the curses.

1110
00:53:18,776 --> 00:53:22,376
Like there's not only that, it was
a difference in the love curses.

1111
00:53:23,486 --> 00:53:23,996
Yeah.

1112
00:53:24,416 --> 00:53:27,186
Like there's two, there's two of the
same curses and you got different

1113
00:53:27,186 --> 00:53:29,656
outcomes on both sides of that, right?

1114
00:53:29,696 --> 00:53:30,506
On both movies.

1115
00:53:31,036 --> 00:53:36,546
So what you're saying right now
is, Am I gathering this correct?

1116
00:53:36,606 --> 00:53:37,326
Am I getting this?

1117
00:53:37,446 --> 00:53:42,266
That a curse isn't good or bad?

1118
00:53:42,276 --> 00:53:44,366
It's, it's that person
who is, who is doing it.

1119
00:53:44,366 --> 00:53:46,556
It's the intention behind it.

1120
00:53:47,286 --> 00:53:51,866
And that's why that, that's why
witchcraft is not necessarily, it's

1121
00:53:51,866 --> 00:53:53,526
not all evil and it's not all good.

1122
00:53:53,661 --> 00:53:56,041
It's what Nancy and them said.

1123
00:53:56,041 --> 00:53:57,001
It's everything.

1124
00:53:57,001 --> 00:53:58,491
It's this and it's that.

1125
00:53:58,771 --> 00:53:59,491
I get it now.

1126
00:53:59,501 --> 00:53:59,911
I get it.

1127
00:54:00,121 --> 00:54:00,631
Oh my god.

1128
00:54:01,496 --> 00:54:01,856
Yeah.

1129
00:54:02,146 --> 00:54:06,986
And the girl, um, uh, Lirio, who plays
the, uh, who's the girl in the, um, the

1130
00:54:06,986 --> 00:54:10,676
shop, um, who helps Sarah when Sarah's
like a little bit in over her head and

1131
00:54:10,676 --> 00:54:14,636
she's like, my friends are going crazy
and people are dying and this is scary.

1132
00:54:14,886 --> 00:54:20,216
And she's like, she's letting her
know, like, uh, you know, true

1133
00:54:20,216 --> 00:54:21,826
magic is neither black nor white.

1134
00:54:22,581 --> 00:54:25,101
Is a quote that she says to, to the girls.

1135
00:54:25,131 --> 00:54:28,011
And this is something to
remember when people talk about

1136
00:54:28,031 --> 00:54:29,571
dark magic or black magic.

1137
00:54:29,571 --> 00:54:33,461
It's like Nancy in this movie is
representing our shadow selves.

1138
00:54:33,961 --> 00:54:38,751
And we all have a shadow
self, just like in astrology.

1139
00:54:39,051 --> 00:54:42,801
I'm a Pisces sun sign, for
example, and there's a lot of good

1140
00:54:42,801 --> 00:54:44,331
qualities about being a Pisces.

1141
00:54:44,971 --> 00:54:49,471
But when it shows up in its shadow
parts, it can be like, uh, desperate,

1142
00:54:49,471 --> 00:54:52,671
needy, over emotional, um, not grounded.

1143
00:54:53,031 --> 00:54:56,581
Um, and these are all parts of
myself that I can be when I'm not

1144
00:54:56,581 --> 00:54:58,551
really in my best, most aligned self.

1145
00:54:59,261 --> 00:55:04,001
And I think Every single person walking
the planet who has a human body is

1146
00:55:04,001 --> 00:55:08,231
going to be experiencing both the most
enlightened version of yourself or the

1147
00:55:08,231 --> 00:55:13,391
most aligned with your true self and the
most, um, you know, in the shadow parts.

1148
00:55:13,921 --> 00:55:15,141
They're not bad parts.

1149
00:55:15,471 --> 00:55:19,661
They're not parts that are
needing to be shunned or squashed.

1150
00:55:19,671 --> 00:55:23,081
They're parts that, uh, you
need to embrace and love.

1151
00:55:23,626 --> 00:55:28,436
About yourself in order for
it to be integrated into you.

1152
00:55:28,646 --> 00:55:29,016
Right.

1153
00:55:30,821 --> 00:55:30,981
It's

1154
00:55:31,216 --> 00:55:35,186
But Nancy, you know, run off
with her ego a little bit, maybe.

1155
00:55:36,471 --> 00:55:38,241
You think that hurt her in the end?

1156
00:55:39,116 --> 00:55:41,736
Uh, I think that's where she went wrong.

1157
00:55:42,036 --> 00:55:42,251
Yeah.

1158
00:55:42,531 --> 00:55:42,691
Yeah.

1159
00:55:42,961 --> 00:55:43,616
I mean, so.

1160
00:55:43,916 --> 00:55:47,966
see where she goes into her ego
self as she's driving the car.

1161
00:55:47,966 --> 00:55:51,986
And she's starting to be like, Oh, all
these lights are going to be green.

1162
00:55:52,846 --> 00:55:53,236
Watch it.

1163
00:55:53,236 --> 00:55:56,836
And then, uh, Sarah says, one of these
times the lights are not going to be

1164
00:55:56,836 --> 00:55:58,956
green and that's exactly what happens.

1165
00:55:58,981 --> 00:56:05,101
Now is that going back to You said
like, Wicca's got its own doctrines

1166
00:56:05,361 --> 00:56:10,211
and this and that and different forms
of witchcraft might also, is that

1167
00:56:10,221 --> 00:56:12,271
like a, is that a rule somewhere?

1168
00:56:12,301 --> 00:56:18,771
Like, basically don't get too big for
your britches, don't get that ego, don't,

1169
00:56:19,731 --> 00:56:24,951
don't think you're the best and biggest
and baddest out there, cause yeah, it's

1170
00:56:24,951 --> 00:56:28,001
gonna hit you, but it's still gonna
get you, is that what it is or what?

1171
00:56:28,646 --> 00:56:33,446
yeah, well, I mean, this is where it's
so interesting that, you know, like a,

1172
00:56:34,616 --> 00:56:42,326
maybe a naive Christian might think of
Wiccan or witchcraft as something so

1173
00:56:42,496 --> 00:56:47,396
different or so opposite or, you know,
it's the Antichrist, it's the devil,

1174
00:56:47,396 --> 00:56:49,246
it's the darkness, it's the evil.

1175
00:56:49,886 --> 00:56:54,876
Um, when in reality, almost all of
the teachings are pretty in line

1176
00:56:54,896 --> 00:56:57,316
with, in different words or ways.

1177
00:56:58,056 --> 00:57:04,106
what they teach in Taoism or in
Hinduism or in Buddhist or Christian

1178
00:57:04,106 --> 00:57:08,196
or, you know, we're like, treat
others the way you want to be treated.

1179
00:57:08,506 --> 00:57:10,336
That's kind of the basic rule.

1180
00:57:10,356 --> 00:57:11,426
Don't cast a spell.

1181
00:57:11,426 --> 00:57:13,296
You wouldn't want to
have come back to you,

1182
00:57:13,596 --> 00:57:13,896
Yeah.

1183
00:57:14,306 --> 00:57:16,686
Yeah, I like that too.

1184
00:57:16,686 --> 00:57:21,026
And it's, and, and it almost, it goes
back to, uh, our, an earlier episode

1185
00:57:21,026 --> 00:57:25,946
when we watched, uh, the Wickerman
and you had, Lord Summer Isle and

1186
00:57:25,946 --> 00:57:31,496
all of his, all of his fake biology
and his fake this and fake religion.

1187
00:57:31,496 --> 00:57:33,566
And he looks at, uh, the
other guy and he says.

1188
00:57:34,311 --> 00:57:40,081
Well, wasn't basically he says wasn't
Jesus born of a virgin and of a

1189
00:57:40,081 --> 00:57:44,251
ghost in any and he's like, uh Whoa.

1190
00:57:44,621 --> 00:57:47,591
Yeah, so it's when you
start laying it out.

1191
00:57:48,126 --> 00:57:48,586
Yeah.

1192
00:57:49,291 --> 00:57:51,241
It's it's it's it's incredible.

1193
00:57:51,241 --> 00:57:52,251
We're all that kind of

1194
00:57:52,876 --> 00:57:52,926
Yeah.

1195
00:57:52,926 --> 00:57:57,256
And as a Christian myself, I think
to myself, Even if it was just a

1196
00:57:57,256 --> 00:58:00,446
mythology, even if the whole story
of Jesus life and death was a

1197
00:58:00,446 --> 00:58:04,636
mythology, not real, not a real person,
does it make it any less sacred?

1198
00:58:05,536 --> 00:58:07,646
Does it make any of this any less sacred?

1199
00:58:08,026 --> 00:58:10,066
Is a tree any less sacred?

1200
00:58:10,136 --> 00:58:12,966
I mean, it's just, it's just
a different school of thought.

1201
00:58:12,996 --> 00:58:17,256
So, I mean, I think that's something
to, um, to take away from the idea

1202
00:58:17,286 --> 00:58:22,806
of, of witchcraft in this movie is
that I think that, the movie probably

1203
00:58:22,806 --> 00:58:27,396
was portrayed in Hollywood like,
Ooh, we're going to get into witches.

1204
00:58:27,396 --> 00:58:28,456
It's going to be scary.

1205
00:58:28,506 --> 00:58:29,446
People are going to love it.

1206
00:58:29,476 --> 00:58:33,536
And it actually ended up displaying
kind of a, well, a lot of the words

1207
00:58:33,536 --> 00:58:40,536
that they speak, um, in perfect love and
perfect trust to enter the circle, right?

1208
00:58:41,186 --> 00:58:42,476
Like, how is that evil?

1209
00:58:42,486 --> 00:58:45,746
How are we looking at this as
like, it's pure darkness and evil

1210
00:58:45,756 --> 00:58:48,266
where, you know, that's just it.

1211
00:58:48,296 --> 00:58:49,136
It's not it.

1212
00:58:49,146 --> 00:58:52,316
Nothing is nothing is pure
light and nothing is pure evil.

1213
00:58:52,316 --> 00:58:52,406
It's.

1214
00:58:53,906 --> 00:58:56,136
all the things depending on
the intention you put into it.

1215
00:58:56,226 --> 00:58:56,556
So

1216
00:58:57,441 --> 00:58:57,961
what you said.

1217
00:58:57,961 --> 00:58:58,501
It's everything.

1218
00:58:58,561 --> 00:58:59,521
I still love that.

1219
00:58:59,531 --> 00:59:01,471
I think that's a key part of the movie.

1220
00:59:01,521 --> 00:59:03,671
That's something that
stuck out to me as well.

1221
00:59:04,711 --> 00:59:07,411
I mean, what in this movie?

1222
00:59:07,411 --> 00:59:12,191
Like, what, what have you taken part of
that looks just like something because

1223
00:59:12,191 --> 00:59:16,261
this, the final scene when they go up and
they show up with their, their animals.

1224
00:59:17,166 --> 00:59:20,266
And um, is that the final scene?

1225
00:59:20,436 --> 00:59:21,106
Close to it.

1226
00:59:21,516 --> 00:59:25,576
Yeah, the climax of the movie
is where the snakes come in.

1227
00:59:25,856 --> 00:59:29,426
By the way, there were 10,
000 snakes used to film this.

1228
00:59:29,826 --> 00:59:32,036
000 more than I need to know about.

1229
00:59:32,216 --> 00:59:33,016
Like, that's,

1230
00:59:33,466 --> 00:59:34,096
Can you believe that?

1231
00:59:34,456 --> 00:59:35,986
Can you imagine what it
would be like to film that?

1232
00:59:36,046 --> 00:59:39,126
I don't mind snakes, but I still probably
would have had a problem with that.

1233
00:59:39,516 --> 00:59:43,156
My, my issue was more the maggots
and the toilet and all the

1234
00:59:43,166 --> 00:59:44,576
things, which reminded me of this.

1235
00:59:45,031 --> 00:59:45,891
Suspiria.

1236
00:59:46,661 --> 00:59:48,491
The maggots are raining from the ceilings.

1237
00:59:48,491 --> 00:59:50,851
I'm like, oh, no, thank you.

1238
00:59:51,586 --> 00:59:55,946
And the rats, the roaches, whatever it
was, like there was so much going on.

1239
00:59:55,946 --> 00:59:59,316
But yeah, I can't deal with
snakes, but I, yeah, I mean, yeah.

1240
01:00:01,211 --> 01:00:01,631
Yeah.

1241
01:00:01,711 --> 01:00:05,601
I don't know if you can call me a
witch, uh, in, in the case of, of like

1242
01:00:05,611 --> 01:00:09,761
how it would show up in Halloween and
stuff, because I'm like, no, thanks.

1243
01:00:10,971 --> 01:00:11,471
Yucky.

1244
01:00:11,996 --> 01:00:13,546
Did you catch the little Easter egg?

1245
01:00:14,361 --> 01:00:19,261
We, we see Chris early on when they're
playing football, he's playing football,

1246
01:00:19,756 --> 01:00:20,196
Yeah,

1247
01:00:21,041 --> 01:00:24,341
and I don't know if this was intentional
or not, maybe I'm way looking into

1248
01:00:24,341 --> 01:00:25,761
this, but he wore the number 86.

1249
01:00:26,971 --> 01:00:28,401
What's 86 usually mean?

1250
01:00:29,721 --> 01:00:33,681
You, you reject it, discard,
you cancel, you throw him out.

1251
01:00:33,711 --> 01:00:34,761
And what happens to Chris?

1252
01:00:35,271 --> 01:00:36,846
That's Skeet Ulrich's character.

1253
01:00:37,146 --> 01:00:37,816
Yes,

1254
01:00:38,491 --> 01:00:39,591
He was wearing the number 86.

1255
01:00:39,591 --> 01:00:42,141
I don't know if that's coincidence
or if they did it on purpose, but

1256
01:00:42,666 --> 01:00:43,656
I didn't catch it.

1257
01:00:43,716 --> 01:00:44,486
That's interesting.

1258
01:00:44,486 --> 01:00:48,316
Yeah, he was definitely, um, yeah.

1259
01:00:49,921 --> 01:00:50,621
Yeah, we didn't go too

1260
01:00:50,796 --> 01:00:56,396
Again, the theme of when witchcraft
is used to empower, this is an

1261
01:00:56,396 --> 01:00:58,416
example of why it's not pure evil.

1262
01:00:58,416 --> 01:01:02,056
I mean, this is an example of, you
know, here was this guy, obviously

1263
01:01:02,096 --> 01:01:03,866
in a very intense love spell.

1264
01:01:03,866 --> 01:01:06,756
And she was kind of like, she
really just wanted to humiliate him.

1265
01:01:07,256 --> 01:01:08,956
And this is just how it
ended up playing out.

1266
01:01:09,326 --> 01:01:15,061
But he's Attempting to sexually assault
her, rigor warning, sorry, it's, we're

1267
01:01:15,201 --> 01:01:24,126
in the movie, but she is lucky enough to
get away, but it's, um, it's this, idea

1268
01:01:24,186 --> 01:01:31,404
like, how do I, if I can't physically
overcome this, if I couldn't have gotten

1269
01:01:31,496 --> 01:01:34,246
away, he can physically overpower me.

1270
01:01:34,626 --> 01:01:41,652
Um, again, the witchcraft being associated
most with women, being that women are

1271
01:01:41,716 --> 01:01:46,951
more of the oppressed and helpless, in
situations where they need something like

1272
01:01:46,951 --> 01:01:50,381
witchcraft to feel more empowered, to
feel like more in control of their life.

1273
01:01:51,131 --> 01:01:53,691
So here's this kind of jerk.

1274
01:01:53,701 --> 01:01:55,591
He totally treats her horrible.

1275
01:01:56,146 --> 01:02:00,131
Um, tells everyone that they
had done it since high school.

1276
01:02:00,131 --> 01:02:02,491
You know, they're like, everyone's
saying, Chris is telling

1277
01:02:02,491 --> 01:02:03,901
everybody that you did it.

1278
01:02:04,141 --> 01:02:05,311
And she's like, no, he didn't.

1279
01:02:06,271 --> 01:02:08,551
And then he's like, I never
want to see you again.

1280
01:02:08,591 --> 01:02:10,431
And he tries to discard her.

1281
01:02:11,351 --> 01:02:13,441
So, I mean, this is her
taking her power back.

1282
01:02:14,161 --> 01:02:16,801
That moment where she's like, F you.

1283
01:02:17,391 --> 01:02:23,151
I was like, that feeling felt so familiar.

1284
01:02:23,171 --> 01:02:25,991
Not that I went through that experience
in high school, but just that feeling of

1285
01:02:25,991 --> 01:02:31,901
like boys making fun of you, boys being
terrible to you, boys being mean to you.

1286
01:02:31,981 --> 01:02:33,321
That was familiar to me.

1287
01:02:33,341 --> 01:02:34,951
And so it feels helpless.

1288
01:02:35,181 --> 01:02:37,621
It feels like I don't
have a comeback for this.

1289
01:02:37,721 --> 01:02:39,629
I don't have anywhere
to take my power back.

1290
01:02:39,751 --> 01:02:43,071
I just feel like I'm victim
to whatever they say about me.

1291
01:02:44,176 --> 01:02:47,926
It's got to be, that's like an
awful feeling, like that's, once

1292
01:02:47,926 --> 01:02:51,636
again, going back to wanting to
be a part of something, wanting to

1293
01:02:51,636 --> 01:02:54,326
belong, wanting to feel that way.

1294
01:02:54,776 --> 01:02:59,586
Yeah, because in the 90s, if you're a
girl in high school, you're either a

1295
01:02:59,586 --> 01:03:08,386
nobody, a weirdo, a slut, like Nancy
is accused of being, or a prude, which

1296
01:03:08,386 --> 01:03:11,516
is like kind of what Sarah was accused
of being, because she was a little bit

1297
01:03:11,516 --> 01:03:15,996
more buttoned up and a little bit more
Conservative and, um, and you can't

1298
01:03:15,996 --> 01:03:18,946
win, you know, girls, they can't win.

1299
01:03:20,206 --> 01:03:21,876
That's how it felt to me in high school.

1300
01:03:21,886 --> 01:03:21,936
It was

1301
01:03:22,056 --> 01:03:29,216
And I believe, I believe right
there when Chris has his, uh, issues

1302
01:03:30,186 --> 01:03:34,106
arise, we, without triggering too
much, that's after that and she gets

1303
01:03:34,106 --> 01:03:37,116
away, that's, that's when the music,
that's when Portishead, that's when

1304
01:03:37,116 --> 01:03:39,176
that Portishead scorn kicks in.

1305
01:03:39,796 --> 01:03:44,656
And to me, that was, I was like,
oof, that is, that's fucking heavy.

1306
01:03:45,006 --> 01:03:51,336
Like it was, that was, that was, That
had to be a tough scene to get approved

1307
01:03:51,346 --> 01:03:53,156
to even be in the movie, honestly.

1308
01:03:53,426 --> 01:03:54,826
Um, cause it was hard to watch.

1309
01:03:54,836 --> 01:03:55,826
It was just hard to watch.

1310
01:04:06,386 --> 01:04:07,116
I'll be down in a minute.

1311
01:04:09,176 --> 01:04:09,456
Okay.

1312
01:04:09,566 --> 01:04:09,996
I'm back.

1313
01:04:10,296 --> 01:04:11,016
I paused.

1314
01:04:11,016 --> 01:04:11,436
It was good.

1315
01:04:11,556 --> 01:04:15,986
Um, that, that part was the,
that part was hard to watch.

1316
01:04:15,986 --> 01:04:19,666
Like that had to be hard to
get across to the censors.

1317
01:04:20,296 --> 01:04:21,736
I don't even know how they
got that scene in the movie.

1318
01:04:21,736 --> 01:04:28,366
Cause it was a difficult piece to watch,
but heavy, heavy fucking thing to see.

1319
01:04:28,416 --> 01:04:33,551
Um, I want to ask you before we get
out of here, I want to ask you, What

1320
01:04:33,551 --> 01:04:37,791
you think about the, uh, theory, maybe.

1321
01:04:38,661 --> 01:04:43,861
Could be, could be accurate, but
there's a, the theory that Sarah was

1322
01:04:43,861 --> 01:04:48,441
the only actual witch and the rest
of them were actually just leeching

1323
01:04:48,681 --> 01:04:51,161
power off of Sarah, off of her magic.

1324
01:04:51,271 --> 01:04:53,871
Do you think that's the case,
or do they all have their own

1325
01:04:56,786 --> 01:04:58,166
I think that when.

1326
01:04:59,211 --> 01:05:04,067
I just take into, into consideration how
I feel or interact with magic in that way.

1327
01:05:04,131 --> 01:05:12,021
I think that it did take all four
of them to, um, participate in their

1328
01:05:12,021 --> 01:05:21,341
intentions together when they were all
in line in like, um, cohesive, and that's

1329
01:05:21,386 --> 01:05:22,841
when their power was the strongest.

1330
01:05:23,351 --> 01:05:28,361
It wasn't until Sarah was able to overcome
her fear and be able to invoke the spirit

1331
01:05:28,361 --> 01:05:31,391
herself and to say, I'm gonna need this.

1332
01:05:32,786 --> 01:05:36,916
As long as I can keep myself in check
and not do what Nancy did with it when

1333
01:05:36,926 --> 01:05:42,586
she invokes the spirit and took it
upon, took it into herself, she was

1334
01:05:42,626 --> 01:05:48,166
able to kind of be that light to Nancy's
dark if there was, you know, that.

1335
01:05:48,226 --> 01:05:53,146
Again, I think both have both, but it
kind of then was able to, you know,

1336
01:05:53,156 --> 01:05:58,513
have that final battle scene between
the two of them because they had

1337
01:05:58,513 --> 01:06:00,666
really powerful powers from Manon.

1338
01:06:00,666 --> 01:06:03,381
And so, able to battle it out.

1339
01:06:03,901 --> 01:06:09,261
Um, but I think that, I think that it
was all four of them working together

1340
01:06:09,296 --> 01:06:12,296
when they were calling corners, when
they were doing spells together.

1341
01:06:12,401 --> 01:06:17,071
Um, you know, Bonnie needed it to, uh,
which by the way, I forgot to mention

1342
01:06:17,071 --> 01:06:21,331
this part when her back is full of scars
and she's wanting to clear that up.

1343
01:06:21,361 --> 01:06:26,271
Um, it was Nancy who was
doing the hands over the back.

1344
01:06:27,561 --> 01:06:29,421
That's, that's Pretty much Reiki.

1345
01:06:29,451 --> 01:06:31,671
That's energy healing work
that she's doing there.

1346
01:06:31,681 --> 01:06:33,421
I mean, they don't call
it that in the movie.

1347
01:06:33,691 --> 01:06:36,631
Um, Reiki isn't necessarily
associated with witchcraft.

1348
01:06:37,071 --> 01:06:41,601
They are considered to be different
things, but that's, that's healing

1349
01:06:41,621 --> 01:06:43,921
energy she's putting into her body.

1350
01:06:43,921 --> 01:06:47,171
And she's doing that to
heal her scars on the back.

1351
01:06:47,201 --> 01:06:49,811
And I think, you know, during those
scenes, when they're all working

1352
01:06:49,811 --> 01:06:54,486
together, There is something to
be said for that collective power.

1353
01:06:55,081 --> 01:06:55,921
That's incredible.

1354
01:06:55,921 --> 01:06:57,031
I didn't even pick up on that.

1355
01:06:57,061 --> 01:06:57,941
So, look at you.

1356
01:06:57,941 --> 01:06:58,681
That's why we have you.

1357
01:06:58,691 --> 01:06:59,336
You're the expert.

1358
01:06:59,636 --> 01:07:00,006
Yeah.

1359
01:07:00,316 --> 01:07:01,466
Oh, it was interesting to me.

1360
01:07:01,466 --> 01:07:03,106
I was like, Oh, wow, look at that.

1361
01:07:03,376 --> 01:07:04,566
She's over there doing Reiki.

1362
01:07:04,596 --> 01:07:09,056
And because she is also a light
being herself, light and dark.

1363
01:07:09,066 --> 01:07:13,546
I mean, Nancy was never just evil
or just, she's, she's doing that

1364
01:07:13,546 --> 01:07:17,596
healing work to her friend because
she wants her friend to feel better.

1365
01:07:17,706 --> 01:07:21,941
There has to be the heart in
that to be able to, Um, project

1366
01:07:21,951 --> 01:07:23,411
that out through her hands.

1367
01:07:24,311 --> 01:07:26,301
So, it worked!

1368
01:07:27,236 --> 01:07:28,586
Final thoughts on the craft?

1369
01:07:30,171 --> 01:07:30,441
Yeah.

1370
01:07:30,441 --> 01:07:31,101
One more.

1371
01:07:31,401 --> 01:07:32,421
Uh, Rachel True.

1372
01:07:32,421 --> 01:07:34,011
Who plays, uh, Rochelle.

1373
01:07:34,561 --> 01:07:37,861
Um, I know we talked about, uh, theta.

1374
01:07:38,721 --> 01:07:39,741
Am I always saying her name wrong?

1375
01:07:39,741 --> 01:07:40,071
I don't know.

1376
01:07:40,071 --> 01:07:40,671
Far Balk.

1377
01:07:40,731 --> 01:07:43,701
She's, she became a Pagan
after this movie, right?

1378
01:07:43,701 --> 01:07:44,511
We talked about that.

1379
01:07:44,901 --> 01:07:49,341
But Rachel True is also dabbled in
witchcraft in her personal life.

1380
01:07:49,341 --> 01:07:55,101
And when I was gifted my first tarot
deck, before I was learning to read tarot

1381
01:07:55,101 --> 01:07:57,521
or anything like that, I was gifted.

1382
01:07:57,776 --> 01:08:02,256
Rachel True's tarot deck, which
is True Heart Intuitive Tarot,

1383
01:08:02,556 --> 01:08:03,206
Wow!

1384
01:08:03,546 --> 01:08:04,096
right there.

1385
01:08:04,966 --> 01:08:08,496
So she did, there's her name, I'm
going to put it in the camera,

1386
01:08:08,866 --> 01:08:09,636
Rachel True!

1387
01:08:10,256 --> 01:08:10,666
right there.

1388
01:08:11,246 --> 01:08:17,266
So she wrote this tarot deck and did the,
um, I believe the artwork for it as well.

1389
01:08:17,446 --> 01:08:21,856
So just a little side note there, um,
the first readings that I've ever done

1390
01:08:21,856 --> 01:08:23,366
with tarot have been with her deck.

1391
01:08:23,886 --> 01:08:24,576
I love that.

1392
01:08:26,146 --> 01:08:27,126
This has been incredible.

1393
01:08:27,316 --> 01:08:28,946
Teen Witch in the craft.

1394
01:08:29,296 --> 01:08:32,876
Yep, you did not know we had so much to
talk about with these two Teenage Witch

1395
01:08:32,986 --> 01:08:33,666
I didn't!

1396
01:08:33,826 --> 01:08:34,396
I didn't.

1397
01:08:34,466 --> 01:08:35,246
I'm glad we did!

1398
01:08:35,593 --> 01:08:37,253
. Man, Courtney, what'd you think?

1399
01:08:38,323 --> 01:08:42,303
two great movies, so much more
similar than I would have thought.

1400
01:08:42,833 --> 01:08:43,293
Right?

1401
01:08:43,793 --> 01:08:49,943
Like, I still can't get over the fact of
how different they were, but similar they

1402
01:08:50,083 --> 01:08:50,503
Yeah.

1403
01:08:50,603 --> 01:08:53,353
You would never look at the posters
of both of them and be like, Oh,

1404
01:08:53,493 --> 01:08:54,753
these movies belong together.

1405
01:08:55,443 --> 01:08:56,733
Ah, never, never.

1406
01:08:56,753 --> 01:09:02,313
But the big news here that we teased
way back before we even started

1407
01:09:02,313 --> 01:09:05,803
talking about the two movies was
the actor that we talked to and

1408
01:09:05,973 --> 01:09:08,263
interviewed about this movie.

1409
01:09:08,263 --> 01:09:09,453
Go ahead and tell them who it is.

1410
01:09:09,963 --> 01:09:10,953
Oh my gosh.

1411
01:09:11,623 --> 01:09:15,203
I started out saying I didn't
really know who the Teen Witch was.

1412
01:09:15,953 --> 01:09:20,143
And then when I watched it again and
realized who it was, Robin Lively.

1413
01:09:21,128 --> 01:09:22,008
Robin Lively.

1414
01:09:22,263 --> 01:09:25,013
Getting to see her in person
is maybe going to be one of

1415
01:09:25,013 --> 01:09:25,928
the highlights of my life.

1416
01:09:26,228 --> 01:09:27,928
And going to play that.

1417
01:09:27,928 --> 01:09:29,448
Well, we're going to, we interviewed her.

1418
01:09:29,458 --> 01:09:33,098
We're going to play that interview here in
just a minute, but that experience itself,

1419
01:09:33,138 --> 01:09:34,868
like really how crazy is that Courtney?

1420
01:09:34,878 --> 01:09:41,878
Because it was the same week this
was to air and the, like you said,

1421
01:09:41,878 --> 01:09:43,488
the universe put her in our path.

1422
01:09:44,458 --> 01:09:48,938
She was so warm inviting to us.

1423
01:09:49,318 --> 01:09:51,728
We told her what we were doing
with the Wits Movie project.

1424
01:09:51,738 --> 01:09:53,278
She, oh, she loved that.

1425
01:09:53,278 --> 01:09:53,538
Like.

1426
01:09:53,843 --> 01:09:57,723
Oh yeah, and telling her that I was
a real witch and that the message

1427
01:09:57,723 --> 01:10:01,433
of the movie being to empower young
women to feel their own power, that

1428
01:10:01,443 --> 01:10:05,593
we are really actually powerful
creatures, is really important to me.

1429
01:10:05,633 --> 01:10:08,983
And she was so kind, she was
right on board with that.

1430
01:10:08,983 --> 01:10:10,123
Isn't she,

1431
01:10:10,153 --> 01:10:10,663
to the interview.

1432
01:10:10,663 --> 01:10:11,373
Let's go check it out.

1433
01:10:12,212 --> 01:10:12,472
thanks.

1434
01:10:12,472 --> 01:10:14,282
We're here with Robin Lively.

1435
01:10:14,722 --> 01:10:15,012
Hi, how are you?

1436
01:10:15,482 --> 01:10:16,322
Now, and

1437
01:10:16,322 --> 01:10:19,022
I've also got a real
witch, Courtney Pearl.

1438
01:10:19,662 --> 01:10:21,302
Yep, real deal.

1439
01:10:21,332 --> 01:10:22,542
Yeah, she's gonna freak out a little bit.

1440
01:10:22,542 --> 01:10:24,842
Now, me and her have
the Witch Movie Project.

1441
01:10:24,882 --> 01:10:27,562
And, where we break down two witch movies.

1442
01:10:27,582 --> 01:10:31,792
And we happen to put The Craft vs.

1443
01:10:31,792 --> 01:10:32,302
Teen Witch.

1444
01:10:32,312 --> 01:10:32,692
I love it.

1445
01:10:33,252 --> 01:10:34,392
And which is the better one?

1446
01:10:34,802 --> 01:10:35,842
My picks, by the way.

1447
01:10:35,842 --> 01:10:36,842
I just have to say that.

1448
01:10:36,852 --> 01:10:37,642
She gets credit.

1449
01:10:37,652 --> 01:10:39,122
They were, but you know what?

1450
01:10:39,242 --> 01:10:40,242
We figured out.

1451
01:10:40,242 --> 01:10:42,302
We were like, these two
movies have nothing in common.

1452
01:10:42,992 --> 01:10:44,472
But we broke them down.

1453
01:10:44,732 --> 01:10:46,502
An hour and a half we
broke these things down.

1454
01:10:47,022 --> 01:10:49,402
And we realized, we're like,
whoa, the parallels are crazy.

1455
01:10:49,742 --> 01:10:51,242
There was like so much stuff that was I

1456
01:10:51,512 --> 01:10:52,072
love it.

1457
01:10:52,442 --> 01:10:53,582
But you played Louise.

1458
01:10:54,122 --> 01:10:54,592
I did.

1459
01:10:54,712 --> 01:10:56,032
Now, you've got a question.

1460
01:10:56,502 --> 01:10:56,892
Yes.

1461
01:10:56,902 --> 01:11:00,292
So, the theme of that movie,
and I feel like both movies, is,

1462
01:11:00,402 --> 01:11:01,872
like, empowering young women.

1463
01:11:02,202 --> 01:11:02,972
Absolutely.

1464
01:11:03,082 --> 01:11:03,812
What do you have to say about that?

1465
01:11:03,812 --> 01:11:06,952
Oh, I love that the message
still holds up, you know?

1466
01:11:07,292 --> 01:11:10,682
It's about, if you believe in
yourself, anything can happen.

1467
01:11:10,852 --> 01:11:11,042
Yes.

1468
01:11:11,612 --> 01:11:12,422
And I love that.

1469
01:11:12,532 --> 01:11:13,432
So, yeah.

1470
01:11:13,862 --> 01:11:15,032
You're finding true power.

1471
01:11:15,112 --> 01:11:15,552
You know what?

1472
01:11:15,812 --> 01:11:17,692
The movie, 1989, right?

1473
01:11:18,577 --> 01:11:18,647
It

1474
01:11:19,347 --> 01:11:19,867
holds up.

1475
01:11:19,887 --> 01:11:20,937
Like, we literally watched it.

1476
01:11:21,247 --> 01:11:21,727
We watched

1477
01:11:21,727 --> 01:11:22,157
it last week.

1478
01:11:22,217 --> 01:11:22,737
Do you guys know the rap?

1479
01:11:23,117 --> 01:11:23,387
No.

1480
01:11:23,677 --> 01:11:24,547
Oh, I

1481
01:11:24,547 --> 01:11:25,117
tried it on the

1482
01:11:25,117 --> 01:11:25,357
show.

1483
01:11:25,497 --> 01:11:26,237
You've gotta learn it.

1484
01:11:26,237 --> 01:11:26,637
Do you know it?

1485
01:11:27,067 --> 01:11:29,637
Supersonic, idiotic,
disconnected, not respected.

1486
01:11:29,637 --> 01:11:31,797
Who would ever really
want to go and top that?

1487
01:11:31,817 --> 01:11:32,097
Okay!

1488
01:11:32,097 --> 01:11:34,547
Top that!

1489
01:11:34,547 --> 01:11:35,407
You guys are awesome.

1490
01:11:35,407 --> 01:11:39,767
Now, oh my gosh, I'm blown
away that she just did that.

1491
01:11:42,152 --> 01:11:42,552
But look,

1492
01:11:42,582 --> 01:11:43,472
you did say it.

1493
01:11:43,482 --> 01:11:44,422
This movie does hold up.

1494
01:11:45,042 --> 01:11:45,902
I've been up here.

1495
01:11:45,902 --> 01:11:47,842
I saw kids up here that
couldn't even sit at a table.

1496
01:11:47,842 --> 01:11:48,532
No.

1497
01:11:48,642 --> 01:11:49,342
Isn't that the best?

1498
01:11:49,932 --> 01:11:50,512
It is.

1499
01:11:50,542 --> 01:11:52,482
Now we're also here with Promise to Live.

1500
01:11:53,082 --> 01:11:53,642
Promise to Live.

1501
01:11:53,842 --> 01:11:54,122
org.

1502
01:11:54,132 --> 01:11:54,842
Go to Promise to Live.

1503
01:11:55,062 --> 01:11:56,682
org and make the promise today.

1504
01:11:57,387 --> 01:11:58,337
You are not alone.

1505
01:11:59,067 --> 01:12:00,597
There's someone out there for you.

1506
01:12:00,607 --> 01:12:01,637
We love you.

1507
01:12:01,677 --> 01:12:02,847
You got this.

1508
01:12:03,317 --> 01:12:04,867
I think this is fantastic.

1509
01:12:05,267 --> 01:12:07,007
I support it 100%.

1510
01:12:07,247 --> 01:12:08,687
I didn't even have to ask for the message.

1511
01:12:08,687 --> 01:12:09,037
I love that.

1512
01:12:09,257 --> 01:12:10,227
Yeah, I love it.

1513
01:12:10,227 --> 01:12:11,257
You guys are awesome.

1514
01:12:11,627 --> 01:12:12,427
Believe in yourself, man.

1515
01:12:12,497 --> 01:12:13,377
Believe in yourself.

1516
01:12:13,397 --> 01:12:14,107
No, I gotta ask

1517
01:12:14,127 --> 01:12:15,487
for her though before we get out of here.

1518
01:12:15,517 --> 01:12:15,747
Yep.

1519
01:12:16,487 --> 01:12:17,697
Can she have this amulet?

1520
01:12:17,797 --> 01:12:19,577
Because she's, she's been
eyeballing this amulet.

1521
01:12:19,577 --> 01:12:19,787
Oh,

1522
01:12:20,047 --> 01:12:20,927
these are, I made these.

1523
01:12:21,417 --> 01:12:21,887
Did you really?

1524
01:12:21,887 --> 01:12:23,127
Yes, yes, I designed them.

1525
01:12:23,127 --> 01:12:24,667
I have a sweet little message on the back.

1526
01:12:24,667 --> 01:12:25,317
She's gotta get one of those.

1527
01:12:25,317 --> 01:12:27,607
And I hand did a bunch of this.

1528
01:12:27,607 --> 01:12:27,877
She's

1529
01:12:27,877 --> 01:12:28,547
gotta have one of those.

1530
01:12:29,057 --> 01:12:31,127
Yes, I worked on all of attest.

1531
01:12:31,167 --> 01:12:31,617
What's it take?

1532
01:12:31,617 --> 01:12:32,891
Just a few dollars.

1533
01:12:32,891 --> 01:12:34,484
We got a few dollars.

1534
01:12:34,484 --> 01:12:36,077
We got a couple dollars.

1535
01:12:36,077 --> 01:12:37,667
He's infused with a lot
of power, I can tell.

1536
01:12:37,677 --> 01:12:38,807
Oh, I love it.

1537
01:12:38,837 --> 01:12:39,617
Hey, thank you so much.

1538
01:12:39,617 --> 01:12:40,347
You guys are awesome.

1539
01:12:40,807 --> 01:12:41,387
Thank you.

1540
01:12:41,697 --> 01:12:41,737
Let's

1541
01:12:41,882 --> 01:12:42,865
what?

1542
01:12:44,085 --> 01:12:45,275
isn't she fantastic?

1543
01:12:45,865 --> 01:12:46,775
I love her so much.

1544
01:12:46,795 --> 01:12:47,475
I loved her.

1545
01:12:47,825 --> 01:12:50,185
Uh, did you get that amulet?

1546
01:12:50,985 --> 01:12:52,115
I did.

1547
01:12:53,175 --> 01:12:54,365
Got it right here.

1548
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:56,050
Yep.

1549
01:12:56,330 --> 01:12:57,790
You gotta see the video to see it.

1550
01:12:57,820 --> 01:12:59,250
It's inscribed.

1551
01:12:59,610 --> 01:13:00,540
She has on the back.

1552
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,270
She said she handmade these things.

1553
01:13:02,570 --> 01:13:02,590
Yeah.

1554
01:13:03,660 --> 01:13:07,050
I, and that's, I truly believe
that whether she knows it or

1555
01:13:07,050 --> 01:13:12,090
not, that is her creating a
spell that goes out to everyone.

1556
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:15,600
So she has Louise's quote on
the back, believe in yourself

1557
01:13:16,210 --> 01:13:18,390
and right from the movie.

1558
01:13:18,410 --> 01:13:21,900
And I think that her putting these
out into the world for people is,

1559
01:13:22,010 --> 01:13:23,640
is just like creating a spell.

1560
01:13:23,700 --> 01:13:25,230
It's just like making real magic.

1561
01:13:25,340 --> 01:13:25,840
I love it.

1562
01:13:26,575 --> 01:13:32,295
I can't believe the
occurrences of events here.

1563
01:13:32,295 --> 01:13:33,935
The way that this all, this rolled out.

1564
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:34,170
Synchronicities.

1565
01:13:34,275 --> 01:13:34,915
one episode.

1566
01:13:35,615 --> 01:13:37,675
Yeah, got her autograph.

1567
01:13:38,305 --> 01:13:42,915
She writes, she writes to me,
just to me, Courtney Pearl.

1568
01:13:43,195 --> 01:13:50,465
She says, to my witchy sister,
top that, right there, to me.

1569
01:13:51,795 --> 01:13:52,655
I love this.

1570
01:13:52,656 --> 01:13:52,845
Thanks.

1571
01:13:53,065 --> 01:13:54,305
She also gave me like three hugs.

1572
01:13:54,325 --> 01:13:55,145
I just love her.

1573
01:13:57,275 --> 01:13:59,115
I could see the energy between you two.

1574
01:13:59,115 --> 01:14:00,665
Like, it was, it was genuine.

1575
01:14:00,665 --> 01:14:03,425
And I even noticed that when
the interview was done, I saw

1576
01:14:03,435 --> 01:14:04,785
you two still chatting it up.

1577
01:14:05,295 --> 01:14:05,755
Oh yeah.

1578
01:14:06,165 --> 01:14:07,225
Oh, that reminds me.

1579
01:14:07,255 --> 01:14:10,015
I totally forgot what she said
because I was kind of in a fog, but

1580
01:14:10,055 --> 01:14:12,485
she said, you have such great energy.

1581
01:14:12,525 --> 01:14:15,135
And I was like, Thank you.

1582
01:14:16,755 --> 01:14:17,455
So did she.

1583
01:14:17,625 --> 01:14:18,095
Like, really,

1584
01:14:18,205 --> 01:14:18,825
You really did.

1585
01:14:19,065 --> 01:14:19,315
Yeah.

1586
01:14:19,365 --> 01:14:19,935
was great.

1587
01:14:20,265 --> 01:14:21,055
So, you know what?

1588
01:14:21,075 --> 01:14:25,665
So, very back early on in this episode,
I said this was the Battle of the Robins.

1589
01:14:26,490 --> 01:14:27,520
we know which Robin won.

1590
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:28,810
It's got to be Robin Lively.

1591
01:14:28,810 --> 01:14:29,360
We talked to her.

1592
01:14:29,660 --> 01:14:30,335
Robin Lavely.

1593
01:14:30,930 --> 01:14:33,620
Now, if the other Robin wants to
come on, though, and talk to us,

1594
01:14:34,195 --> 01:14:34,875
100 percent.

1595
01:14:35,010 --> 01:14:37,440
we could Yeah,

1596
01:14:37,755 --> 01:14:38,235
Welcome.

1597
01:14:38,535 --> 01:14:40,815
I welcome anyone from
any one of these movies.

1598
01:14:41,365 --> 01:14:42,485
I'll talk to any of them.

1599
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,150
We'll see you guys next week.