The Witch Movie Project Ep 1 - 'The Wicker Man (1973)' vs 'Midsommar'

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Oh my gosh, I'm scared already.

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Are you scared, Courtney?

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Oh yeah.

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The violin, the witch, witch laughing.

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Like what in the world
have we started here?

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Like, what is this?

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What is this?

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Why are we here?

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This is the witch movie project, as
you probably have figured out by now.

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If you've clicked on this, you've
seen it, you saw the logo, you

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saw our   amazing pictures.

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We've got those taken
down at the, uh, the mall.

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Remember that, Courtney?

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Yeah, I had to polish my horns.

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Well,

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So let's tell people out there how
this project really came about.

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And you know what?

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I'll just tell you.

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This is my selfish  project.

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And basically these  were the
movies I was going to watch anyway.

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I just was looking for a  sucker
to talk to me about them with.

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And instead of a
sucker,   found a real witch.

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Who could  actually bring some insight
to these movies that I, I really do  love

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the, the, the horror genre,   period.

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And then the sub genres of witch, folk
horror, you know, all these other things.

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And Courtney,   Courtney here,
Courtney Pearl, host of Practically

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Magic  on Ride the Wave Media.

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I'm just Blane, by the way.

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Host of Radio Daybreak,
CEO of Ride the Wave Media.

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But,  Courtney.

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Tell me,  I asked you, how did
you think this was going to go?

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I love movies and I thought to
myself, there's probably a lot of

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movies made about witches that are
portraying them in a certain light.

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Maybe I can  bring some insight into
paganism and, um, and also share my

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love of the movies and how they're made.

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You do that very well as
we've been  working on this.

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Now, this is, this is, we've been
talking  about this all summer long and

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we had a list  of probably 40 movies
and then we narrowed it down  and then

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we decided to pair these movies  up.

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Courtney, tell us how this is actually
going to work for the people out there.

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This is the first episode, so
you haven't missed anything yet.

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Oh yeah, and you can always go back.

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We have two movies we're
reviewing every episode.

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Well, sometimes there's
a little bonus third one.

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I'll just tease that out  there,

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Oh,

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we  have two movies each week.

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We're reviewing, picking  apart, going
into detail about, and   and even

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sharing some of our experiences with
this movie and watching the  movies.

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And it's all leading up
to a final  event, Alive.

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Broadcast.

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Podcast of our show   while
watching a witch movie with us.

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boy.

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I cannot wait.

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Listen, this event.

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is going to be on October 26th,
presented by Novel  Daybreak

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by Crescent Communities.

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We love this place.

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There's their, there's
their and their card.

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Listen,

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We love them.

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I fell in love with this location

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the first time I ever walked there,
and we've been, we've been at

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Novel  time and time again now, and
I can't wait to, to go  and see it.

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and partner up with them and have this
event because  literally this is going to

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be us doing a live podcast taping   and
showing the movie that you guys vote.

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We're going to let, is that
how it's going to work?

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We're going to let them vote between
two movies and we're going to break it

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Yeah.

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I can't wait.

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this is kind of inspired, I'm not going
to say it, kind of, this was inspired  by

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Joe Bob Briggs and what he's done for 40
plus years of keeping the drive  in alive.

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And we're just going to have to do a drive
in  inside because we don't have one yet.

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But this is a passion  project
and I'm super excited   about it.

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I know you're amped up about
it, like, how can you not be?

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I'm all in.

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All in.

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in.

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The first episode, stick
around for it right now.

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The first two movies were not witch
movies, but they were  folk horror movies.

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And I think it was a great, I think
it's going to be a really  good

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setup and foundation for the rest
of  what we talk about later on.

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As this series progresses,
takes you through September,

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October, and who knows?

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It might go  forever.

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For eternity.

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What do you think, Courtney?

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Could you do this forever?

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Possibly.

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We should I hope we get Not only
invited to host some more movie

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screenings, but hey, maybe we end up
in our own horror movie at some point.

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What do you think about that?

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Hey, and I'd be open to doing a,
a rom com series for Valentine's

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Day or something like that.

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I love that idea.

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Let's go see this first episode.

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Make sure we get some people hooked here
before we start planning the rest of it.

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All right.

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Okay.

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All right, Courtney.

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Let's get to our first two movies.

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I know we set this thing up as
like, uh, the witch movie project.

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Our first two, though, don't
necessarily involve witches.

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Am I right?

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Per se, per se, right?

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Not on the surface, not on the surface.

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We are actually going to start with

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the folk horror genre.

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Am I right there?

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That's, that's what this is.

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It's, it's

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Yeah.

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Folk horror.

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And we don't want to, we don't want
to give away the movies just yet.

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Even though you probably just
read the show notes or the

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title and figured it out.

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But Let's just say that one of these folk
horror movies started this whole thing.

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It started the genre, it started,
it very much inspired the other one.

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Now, I'm not talking about Blood
on Satan's Claw, that was 1971,

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that was a little bit earlier.

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Or, The Witchfinder General,
that was probably your first

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folk horror movie in 1968.

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This one was a couple years later,
but it really put on the map.

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This genre and Courtney, I brought
you into this and said, Hey,

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you got to check this movie.

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I don't think you'd ever seen
either one of these movies

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that we're going to talk about.

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No, And I love horror movies.

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I mean, I love movies.

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I'm a movie buff anyway.

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So I'm a little torn because
when you look at like.

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themes of paganism and witchcraft in
horror movies, I'm torn with the idea

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of the propaganda against witchcraft,
but also the movie is so good.

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So I get you gotta love it.

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Heh heh.

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the first movie we were talking
about, we'll talk, we'll get, we'll

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tell you the name in a minute.

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You've already, you've
probably already guessed it.

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The next movie very much took
inspiration from this movie.

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There's no way it didn't.

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Uh, I believe the
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Yes, absolutely.

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And it's.

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Pagan festival.

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Uh, now

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this thing These two
movies are disturbing.

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Let's just set that up.

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We should say that up front.

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This is disturbing content.

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So It's gonna be fucked up That's
that's the way to put it right courtney.

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Oh yeah, and I even read that, um, the

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studio

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execs wanted, um, the makers of this
movie to, um, write a happy ending.

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Um, you know, I'm going to
assume That we can spoil things.

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This is for an audience that watches
the movie or who will watch it spoiled.

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So, they wanted rain, basically,
to end the movie and uh, the, uh,

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the creators, director, writers
of the movie were like, nope.

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No, we're ending it.

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just like it is.

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They stood their ground and that's
that's that even back, you know,

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that's hard to do in hollywood That's
hard to do anytime in hollywood.

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The first movie we're talking
about is the wicker man

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point blank wicker man You've already
guessed it in our second movie.

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Courtney You

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Midsummer.

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one of them 1977 so not the
more recent Wicker Man Right?

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73.

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73.

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1973.

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73.

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Right.

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We've got a movie from
1977 on another show.

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That's, uh, Suspiria.

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Oh Yeah.

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I got it mixed up.

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So that's a teaser for the next one.

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There you go.

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There you go.

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But

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let's start with Wicker Man.

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Yes.

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this thing, you got some
heavy hitters in this movie.

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You had, uh, oh, Christopher Lee,

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Yes.

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Who said

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this

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was his favorite movie to be in?

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which I was a little shocked.

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I mean, he's been in a
lot of really good stuff

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And, um, he said that not only was this
his favorite movie to be in, but he thinks

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he had, he did the best in this movie.

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Of all the movies that he's been

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in.

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He, like, praising his own performance.

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So, I'm like, that's a big deal.

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don't know.

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I know Christopher, Christopher Lee
even would take interviews With anybody

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and everybody to talk about this movie.

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He didn't take one with us.

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You know, we didn't ask him
We maybe maybe we'll check

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Not yet.

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But but he would so it'd be really
weird for Farmers out in iowa to turn on

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their morning tv and there's christopher
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the 70s This is before social media.

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So it's not everybody doing a selfie
So to see a bona fide celebrity

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on your local television channel

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mind blowing right like that's crazy.

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Yeah Yeah, and

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he must have really wanted to do
this project because he actually

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did not accept payment for

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I love it That that's that's insane to me.

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Is that amazing?

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He was so eager to step away from
the sort of Dracula villain that he

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had played, he was sort of getting
typecast, and he was so willing to do

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something different than that, that
he was like, I'll do this project.

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for free.

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Hey,

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Amazing,

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another all star performance in
this movie is Edward Woodward.

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Now, he's the one who, from the very
beginning of the movie, uh, he goes to

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the island, he's Sergeant Howie, and he
goes to this remote, let's just set it

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up, he goes to this remote Scottish island

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Mm hmm.

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because there's a disappearance
of a girl named Rowan.

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Now, When he gets to this island, right
off the jump, you, you already know,

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like, something, something's not right.

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Like, it, it's, sure, it looks
bright and cozy, but even when

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he looks at the dark across the
way, something, something's off.

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Something's off.

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It's the atmosphere,

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of elderly gentlemen standing
there waiting for him to arrive.

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Um, I also took note that the boat
that brought him from the plane, um,

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had the evil eye on it, um, a symbol of,
uh, protection or perhaps even, um, uh,

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depending on how you use it, it could
be towards someone as like a curse,

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like someone's eye is on you, or there's
someone's jealous or envious eye on you.

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So, just a quick shot.

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I, I took note of

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let me give you a little, let me give
you a little trivia on that boat.

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So that boat was actually
owned by a resident there.

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That's, that was not a prop.

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It was owned by a resident
there and they used that boat.

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That boat stood until about
2004, somewhere in there.

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And then it, I think it
disappeared or got destroyed.

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That was not a prop.

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The evil eye boat was actually there.

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Um,

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that is interesting.

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Yeah.

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That means that that was still a
pretty prevalent tradition there.

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And I know there are a lot of like
remote areas of Italy and, um, you

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know, islands that still very much in
the tradition of using the Evil Eye.

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Um, I think it's making a comeback too,

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So.

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evil eye is making a comeback.

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I mean, everybody hits that evil
eye sometimes, you know, you've

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got to lock it in on people.

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So

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the movie though,

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from Mayer, you just feel this, uh,
you can, it's, it's almost like.

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It's like the rollercoaster and it just
goes straight down because you start

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delving into this you get encapsulated
by this Atmosphere that's crazy.

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Um, I I described this movie
when you watch this movie

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you you it's one of those that
You're not just watching a movie.

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You're like, oh my god,
there's something special here.

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This is something different Whether that's
a good thing or a bad thing you get this

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this sense of dread both these movies do

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Yeah.

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And aren't you just as frustrated
walking through interviewing these

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townspeople when Sergeant Howie is in.

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in, um, interviewing people.

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He cannot get a straight
answer out of anybody.

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The first, the group of men on the dock,
it's like, have you seen this woman?

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It is, have you seen this little girl?

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Do you know who she is?

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They're like, nope, no idea.

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We don't know who that is.

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And then they're like,

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do

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you know this woman?

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Oh, yeah, we know May.

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She works the post office.

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And then they're like, well,
does she have a daughter?

284
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Oh, that's not her daughter though.

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Yeah

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Everywhere he goes, it's like, does this

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girl exist?

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And people are like, no,
maybe She may be dead.

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We don't know.

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And all along, you can, You

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can see Sergeant Howie slowly driving
himself mad, going like there.

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It's, it's taking its toll
on, on Sergeant Howie.

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And it, it takes its toll on you
as a, as a viewer watching this.

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It takes its toll on you because
you're like, give me a straight answer.

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Um, because as a viewer, you
don't know what's going on.

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You, you really don't know.

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Well, who is this rowing girl?

298
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You, you're not really sure.

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When he opens up the casket later
on the movie, which we'll get to,

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Mm hmm.

301
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but this, but this atmosphere,

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bright, sunny,

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Yeah.

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dark,

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disturbing stuff happening, uh, you
know, it's two, two giant contrast of

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how to make this thing come together.

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It's, it's, it's wild how that the,
uh, it's, it's, it's crazy how the

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director put all this together.

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And thought this out that I can make
it this happy looking place, but

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there's this real dark underbelly Robin
Hardy did a great job of doing it.

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So

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Isn't that just, um, similar to Midsommar?

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It's the same idea.

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And I'll, I'll, you know, kind of get to
this later when we talk about that movie.

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But in comparison,

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they're

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both like kind of idyllic
places on the surface, right?

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Like the sunny community
feeling, everyone knows everyone.

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It seems like this community
really does know how to come

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together and support each other.

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And there's, um, cycles of.

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uh, death and rebirth and they're
all kind of involved in it.

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So it's, I mean, on the surface, without
the dark underbelly of what's really going

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on, you kind of get a sense of like, well,
this wouldn't be a bad place to live.

325
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I don't mind this.

326
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Right.

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absolutely absolutely, and They
paint that picture very well.

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You're like, oh, it's not that bad.

329
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But if you really look, there are tiny
details that in both movies that show

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you that things are not as they seem.

331
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You have in the Wicker Man,

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they're going wild in the bar.

333
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Like that bar scene is already crazy.

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You

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And what they're

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singing about, it's like, ew.

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Like dirty old men talking
about the, uh, um, singing.

338
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Um, some kind of folk song
about the landlord's daughter,

339
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it's,

340
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and how promiscuous he is.

341
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yeah, it's crazy.

342
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And then you had Willow
played by Brett Eklund.

343
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Willow, the barkeep, you got
the naked dance from her.

344
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Uh, Which,

345
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Which I have some info by

346
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the

347
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oh yeah, go ahead with that.

348
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I wanna hear that.

349
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Yeah.

350
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So, um, when doing some research on the,
uh, kind of background, I looked at, um,

351
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Mental Floss had done, um, Mental Floss
Magazine or Mental Floss, uh, website did

352
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some background on this movie and it was
really fascinating because Brit Eklund,

353
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who plays Willow, the landlord,
the innkeeper's daughter.

354
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um, she did.

355
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She did not do her singing and voice.

356
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She had someone dub, someone dubbed
over the singing and voice because she

357
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didn't quite get the Scottish accent.

358
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Couldn't quite get it right.

359
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Um, so that was dubbed over.

360
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She had a, uh, a butt double.

361
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So when it shows her dancing
from behind, it's not her.

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I think she,

363
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but she, had,

364
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you can actually see when the dancer
does the, the head turn, you can

365
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actually see the face in one shot.

366
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And it's not her.

367
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You're like, man, that's
not, that's not her.

368
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No, I think the hair is even
like way longer than her

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hair.

370
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It's a blonde woman for sure, but it's
like, no, it doesn't quite match up.

371
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Um, but what's interesting is that,
um, because she did kind of semi nude

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scenes in that dancing part, she's kind
of trying to seduce the main character.

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Um, I guess she had dated Rod Stewart,
uh, later, and he was very jealous of

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her having done those scenes, and he
tried to get the negatives from the

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film and, um, burn them or destroy them
because he didn't like the fact that

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that image and her nakedness was out
there in the world and things like that.

377
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He wasn't able to get those.

378
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The, uh, the originals.

379
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So, it's just interesting.

380
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I do think that the movie was
banned for just a little bit when

381
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it first came out because of that,
even though it was a but double, not

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even, it wasn't even Brit Ecklin.

383
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Yeah.

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was just the type of scenes with
her anything below the waist was not

385
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her but they still He still he still
held it up, which is that's wild.

386
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That's wild.

387
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The 70s were a different time.

388
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Hey

389
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I know, it was interesting, it was
interesting because I'm not, I had seen

390
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many movies from that, that era, but I
did make note as we were watching, like,

391
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the opening sequence and, uh, he gets

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to

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the uh, sweets shop to talk to what's
supposed to be the missing girl's mother

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and, The, um, the woman's daughter is
there and they're, she's painting a

395
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rabbit and I, I just took note of like
the aesthetics in that scene is I was like

396
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why are all the sweets in the sweet shop?

397
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It seems like the sweets and stuffed
animals made around that time are

398
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all so hideously ugly and creepy.

399
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yeah

400
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I had to write it down.

401
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I was like, why are they
always so weird looking?

402
00:19:09,093 --> 00:19:12,643
They weren't cuddly or sweet
or, or delicious looking.

403
00:19:12,643 --> 00:19:13,643
They all look a little

404
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gross to me.

405
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yeah.

406
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Maybe it's just my, when I was
born time period, but that's just

407
00:19:20,528 --> 00:19:24,063
but we got to talk about that We got
to talk about just the background stuff

408
00:19:24,073 --> 00:19:28,463
the set like there's there's a hit
and stuff all throughout both movies

409
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wicker man Like I said the bar scene.

410
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I mean the hotel itself is called
the green with the green man in You

411
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Green Man Inn, yep,

412
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Yep.

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got some relevance.

414
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God of the Forest, Green Man is something
that even in today's, um, Neopagan

415
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Circles, uh, are very well known.

416
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He's the cycle of birth, death,
and rebirth, which is a theme

417
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that you see a lot in this movie.

418
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So, um,

419
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Green Man Inn, it fits definitely.

420
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What I have to say about,

421
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uh,

422
00:19:58,038 --> 00:20:01,518
in the making of this movie,
both movies actually, is, um, I'm

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impressed with the research done.

424
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I

425
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actually expected a lot of
things to be incorrect and

426
00:20:07,448 --> 00:20:10,058
made up because I I don't know.

427
00:20:10,078 --> 00:20:13,878
I just thought a movie being made in
1973 would be like, we'll just throw

428
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a bunch of stuff that looks pagan or
that looks like what we think pagan

429
00:20:17,378 --> 00:20:21,898
is, but we don't, you know, not have
to be real about it, But I'm impressed.

430
00:20:21,918 --> 00:20:24,428
They did their research and a
lot of the stuff in this movie

431
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is from actual pagan influences.

432
00:20:28,048 --> 00:20:32,918
I mean, the, so the apples, I
mean, is apple is an apple not a

433
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symbol of something that's pagan.

434
00:20:34,538 --> 00:20:36,398
Tell me, do you know what that is?

435
00:20:36,398 --> 00:20:37,148
Like, what is that?

436
00:20:37,328 --> 00:20:42,498
Because they were everywhere and
even very early on in the movie,

437
00:20:42,558 --> 00:20:44,218
you, you start seeing apple pop up

438
00:20:45,188 --> 00:20:45,628
Yes.

439
00:20:45,738 --> 00:20:51,658
And the apple is a very, uh, very
prominent symbol of the Isle of Apples,

440
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which is the Isle of Avalon in King
Arthur tradition, or in, the legend

441
00:20:57,338 --> 00:20:59,108
of King Arthur, Arthurian legend.

442
00:20:59,238 --> 00:20:59,508
legend.

443
00:20:59,538 --> 00:20:59,718
Yeah.

444
00:21:00,308 --> 00:21:00,698
Yes.

445
00:21:00,848 --> 00:21:05,718
The Isle of Apples is the island
shrouded in mist that is, you know,

446
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world, and it's where the witch of
Morgan Le Fay, Arthur's sister lives,

447
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and he gets taken there for healing.

448
00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:20,198
so, you know, a place of evil, a
place of magic, or a place of healing.

449
00:21:20,518 --> 00:21:21,858
It can be all of those things.

450
00:21:21,858 --> 00:21:23,948
It's, References, all those things.

451
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And so apples and apple orchards
are, you'll see a lot of that symbol,

452
00:21:29,768 --> 00:21:32,488
the star that you make
when you cut an apple.

453
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The seeds are in a five star.

454
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There's symbology in that.

455
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So,

456
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Interesting.

457
00:21:37,288 --> 00:21:42,378
Now, now what other symbology or
symbolism did you, did you capture?

458
00:21:42,378 --> 00:21:45,258
Did you catch in this movie that I, I
might have missed, you know, 'cause my.

459
00:21:45,793 --> 00:21:52,443
My non, you know, my non Celtic priestess
eye didn't this stuff, so what did I miss?

460
00:21:53,688 --> 00:21:53,938
Oh,

461
00:21:53,958 --> 00:21:55,168
that's what I was looking for.

462
00:21:55,168 --> 00:22:01,058
I was like in, into it, looking
in all of the like corners of

463
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everything, looking for symbols.

464
00:22:03,558 --> 00:22:08,328
Um, I did notice that some of the lyrics
in the songs as you're listening, I

465
00:22:08,328 --> 00:22:11,188
always read, I always watch a movie
with subtitles, so I got to write

466
00:22:11,198 --> 00:22:15,658
down like some of the symbols, um,
one of the symbol, uh, one of the,

467
00:22:16,178 --> 00:22:20,508
um, Lyrics in the song said
Fair Maid White and Red.

468
00:22:20,998 --> 00:22:21,128
I

469
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believe it's Willow singing

470
00:22:22,448 --> 00:22:25,553
it when she's seducing the
sergeant with her little naked

471
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dance that she's doing in the other room.

472
00:22:27,708 --> 00:22:33,208
But she, um, talks about Fair Maid White
and Red, and white and red are, uh,

473
00:22:33,708 --> 00:22:38,788
symbols in England of, like, the black
and the white, or the dark and the light.

474
00:22:39,418 --> 00:22:44,418
Um, The colors on the English flag
are, um, and the, on the royal

475
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,468
crest are usually white and red.

476
00:22:47,288 --> 00:22:49,948
in Glastonbury, they have the
sacred springs, which are the

477
00:22:49,948 --> 00:22:51,598
white spring and the red spring.

478
00:22:51,803 --> 00:22:52,303
Interesting.

479
00:22:52,603 --> 00:22:55,788
The part of it symbolizes, like,
divinity, some of it, and then the

480
00:22:55,788 --> 00:23:00,868
red symbolizing, like, the blood
and the bloodline, of royalty.

481
00:23:01,298 --> 00:23:05,233
And I think it's really interesting that,
and I'm going to kind of skip around

482
00:23:05,233 --> 00:23:08,333
a little bit because I'm talking about
the ending a little bit for a second.

483
00:23:08,993 --> 00:23:11,533
They needed somebody
who was a virgin, right?

484
00:23:13,123 --> 00:23:15,123
And if you've seen the movie,
you know what I mean when I

485
00:23:15,123 --> 00:23:17,883
say they needed someone, but

486
00:23:20,064 --> 00:23:21,623
she's trying to seduce him here.

487
00:23:22,023 --> 00:23:24,703
She's trying to see,
like, she's testing him.

488
00:23:24,763 --> 00:23:26,353
And in a lot of Celtic

489
00:23:26,778 --> 00:23:28,058
There

490
00:23:28,348 --> 00:23:30,088
are sovereignty goddesses.

491
00:23:30,738 --> 00:23:34,978
and the sovereignty goddesses role
is to test someone to To make sure

492
00:23:34,978 --> 00:23:39,078
they're worthy of something, to be
worthy of, of kingship, usually.

493
00:23:39,638 --> 00:23:44,218
So, you know, here we have
Willow kind of playing the part

494
00:23:44,248 --> 00:23:45,558
of this sovereignty goddess.

495
00:23:45,698 --> 00:23:49,078
She's kind of testing him with
her, like, I thought you were going

496
00:23:49,078 --> 00:23:50,728
to come to my room last night.

497
00:23:50,758 --> 00:23:54,098
And he's like, Oh, well, I actually
don't believe in that before marriage.

498
00:23:54,098 --> 00:23:57,153
She's And she's like, too bad.

499
00:23:57,913 --> 00:23:58,483
And

500
00:23:58,493 --> 00:24:00,793
we find out later that was
actually an important part.

501
00:24:00,803 --> 00:24:02,183
Like they needed that.

502
00:24:02,193 --> 00:24:02,613
Right.

503
00:24:02,823 --> 00:24:03,243
So

504
00:24:03,883 --> 00:24:04,423
it's just interesting.

505
00:24:04,783 --> 00:24:08,183
if, he had have fallen
for the siren willow,

506
00:24:08,753 --> 00:24:09,463
Yeah.

507
00:24:09,823 --> 00:24:12,703
would that have, would the movie
have just ended there with a

508
00:24:12,713 --> 00:24:14,373
nice sex scene and we're out?

509
00:24:14,513 --> 00:24:16,363
Because they wouldn't have
had a virgin anymore, right?

510
00:24:16,643 --> 00:24:16,943
Yeah.

511
00:24:17,623 --> 00:24:17,813
I

512
00:24:17,813 --> 00:24:19,843
wonder that I've, I thought about that.

513
00:24:19,843 --> 00:24:21,163
I'm like, maybe.

514
00:24:21,523 --> 00:24:25,213
It would have saved his life, if you will.

515
00:24:26,043 --> 00:24:26,563
So,

516
00:24:26,613 --> 00:24:27,963
sex will save your life.

517
00:24:27,963 --> 00:24:31,543
I don't think we can actually
promote that but sure, you know,

518
00:24:32,393 --> 00:24:35,343
I mean, in most horror films,
sex is usually the thing that

519
00:24:35,343 --> 00:24:36,303
kills, the, gets the people

520
00:24:36,303 --> 00:24:36,613
killed.

521
00:24:36,653 --> 00:24:36,973
Right.

522
00:24:37,023 --> 00:24:37,083
I

523
00:24:37,083 --> 00:24:39,413
mean, that's usually typically
the theme that we see.

524
00:24:40,033 --> 00:24:40,343
So

525
00:24:40,683 --> 00:24:41,403
in this case,

526
00:24:41,913 --> 00:24:42,613
We're onto something.

527
00:24:42,613 --> 00:24:42,793
there.

528
00:24:42,793 --> 00:24:44,553
There's there's something there now

529
00:24:46,533 --> 00:24:50,853
We gotta talk more about this music
because one of the main symbols

530
00:24:50,853 --> 00:24:53,353
in this thing was the maypole now

531
00:24:54,918 --> 00:24:57,158
Oh, I gotta talk about this.

532
00:24:57,618 --> 00:24:58,238
Is that not

533
00:24:58,578 --> 00:24:58,978
interesting?

534
00:24:59,063 --> 00:25:02,973
now when when we when we see
sergeant howie walking through

535
00:25:04,053 --> 00:25:10,798
and He walks past the maypole with
the kids dancing around it and they're

536
00:25:10,798 --> 00:25:14,138
singing that song the first time i
saw i had to run it back i had to run

537
00:25:14,138 --> 00:25:17,898
it back and see and hear this song
again but it's i've got the lyrics

538
00:25:18,748 --> 00:25:19,018
I

539
00:25:19,108 --> 00:25:19,258
did

540
00:25:19,258 --> 00:25:19,508
too.

541
00:25:20,098 --> 00:25:20,918
I wrote them down.

542
00:25:20,928 --> 00:25:21,788
I'm like, ooh.

543
00:25:22,348 --> 00:25:25,708
it's the one where it says in the
woods there grew a tree and a fine

544
00:25:25,718 --> 00:25:30,358
fine tree was he i might have to
go out into song here and on that

545
00:25:30,678 --> 00:25:31,688
Could be a musical.

546
00:25:31,778 --> 00:25:35,588
yeah and on that land there was a branch
and on that branch there was a nest and

547
00:25:35,588 --> 00:25:40,173
in that nest now this thing just goes on
and on and on And it goes all the way to

548
00:25:40,183 --> 00:25:44,863
from the, that grave, there grew a tree,
which is the whole cycle of it, right?

549
00:25:45,833 --> 00:25:46,383
Yes,

550
00:25:46,543 --> 00:25:51,053
you see symbols of death and rebirth
all through this movie, everywhere,

551
00:25:51,370 --> 00:25:57,353
including when the sergeant has a
flashback of his Christian, um, sacrament.

552
00:25:57,783 --> 00:26:01,503
They're talking about resurrection and
the death of Christ and the rebirth of

553
00:26:01,503 --> 00:26:07,803
Christ and so even in his Christian come
from, we're seeing those same symbols

554
00:26:07,863 --> 00:26:12,433
come through this movie over and over
and over again, which is fascinating and

555
00:26:12,443 --> 00:26:13,873
the Maypole, that song.

556
00:26:14,883 --> 00:26:15,323
for sure.

557
00:26:15,323 --> 00:26:19,633
It's talking about, like,
the cycle of, uh, death.

558
00:26:20,103 --> 00:26:26,663
It says, um, On the tree made
a bed, on the bed laid a woman,

559
00:26:26,893 --> 00:26:28,673
on the woman there was a man,

560
00:26:28,923 --> 00:26:29,203
from

561
00:26:29,203 --> 00:26:33,623
the man there came a seed, from
the seed there came a boy, from

562
00:26:33,623 --> 00:26:37,923
the boy there grew a man, and
from that man there was a grave.

563
00:26:38,668 --> 00:26:42,868
So you're like, birth,
death cycles again, right?

564
00:26:42,943 --> 00:26:45,603
and then that's just a, you could
loop that over and over and over.

565
00:26:45,603 --> 00:26:46,103
That's what it is.

566
00:26:46,103 --> 00:26:49,653
It was the 18 year cycles or
something is what they, they lived on.

567
00:26:49,793 --> 00:26:50,993
Seasons, they called it.

568
00:26:51,883 --> 00:26:54,783
They even, they even say,
Hey, what happens at 72?

569
00:26:55,663 --> 00:26:59,803
Well, we're going to go and
they don't, it's wild though.

570
00:26:59,803 --> 00:27:00,063
Right.

571
00:27:00,093 --> 00:27:00,523
Um,

572
00:27:01,518 --> 00:27:01,998
Yeah.

573
00:27:02,158 --> 00:27:02,608
We find

574
00:27:02,633 --> 00:27:03,788
out what happens.

575
00:27:04,418 --> 00:27:07,688
So, what I thought was interesting
about the Maypole in this,

576
00:27:08,038 --> 00:27:09,358
um, in this scene,

577
00:27:09,723 --> 00:27:11,003
The seasons were in midsummer, right?

578
00:27:11,003 --> 00:27:11,678
The 18 year.

579
00:27:11,838 --> 00:27:13,088
the seasons were midsummer.

580
00:27:13,168 --> 00:27:14,778
Yeah, but same themes.

581
00:27:15,098 --> 00:27:17,738
The same themes are running
through each movie, kind of in

582
00:27:17,738 --> 00:27:19,148
their, in their different way.

583
00:27:19,578 --> 00:27:24,518
But, uh, I thought it was interesting that
they had young boys doing the Maypole.

584
00:27:24,518 --> 00:27:24,538
Yeah.

585
00:27:25,838 --> 00:27:30,338
That's not typically what
you see in pagan situations.

586
00:27:30,338 --> 00:27:33,538
I mean, like, just from what I know
about the tradition is that it's

587
00:27:33,538 --> 00:27:36,448
usually the maidens or the young
women of the village that are doing

588
00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:40,908
the maypole because the pole is
itself a phallic symbol of fertility.

589
00:27:41,298 --> 00:27:41,818
So,

590
00:27:41,878 --> 00:27:44,758
We see nothing but females
around the Maypole in Midsommar.

591
00:27:45,158 --> 00:27:47,108
So, that's a great point to point out.

592
00:27:48,158 --> 00:27:48,928
Was there something deeper

593
00:27:49,188 --> 00:27:50,158
I was kind of wondering about

594
00:27:50,158 --> 00:27:50,468
that.

595
00:27:51,458 --> 00:27:55,988
Um, that's, yeah, that's
interesting because Huh.

596
00:27:56,398 --> 00:27:57,078
I never noticed that.

597
00:27:57,078 --> 00:27:58,058
Thank you for pointing that out.

598
00:27:58,628 --> 00:28:01,508
There is this huge clash though of the

599
00:28:02,943 --> 00:28:05,383
Religion and culture, basically.

600
00:28:05,483 --> 00:28:08,413
I just call it culture because they
even tell them this is the culture.

601
00:28:08,413 --> 00:28:10,423
Both movies tell you this is the culture.

602
00:28:10,423 --> 00:28:11,413
This is what we're raised in.

603
00:28:11,763 --> 00:28:13,033
This is what we're happy with.

604
00:28:13,843 --> 00:28:15,803
But the religion side
is like, no, no, no, no.

605
00:28:15,803 --> 00:28:17,023
You can't be happy with that.

606
00:28:17,053 --> 00:28:18,413
That's not how it works.

607
00:28:19,273 --> 00:28:23,883
When Lord Summerisle
and Sergeant Howie meet

608
00:28:25,073 --> 00:28:29,863
and they have the discussion and
he says, you've got fake biology.

609
00:28:29,968 --> 00:28:31,503
You've got fake religion.

610
00:28:32,223 --> 00:28:32,968
What is this?

611
00:28:33,633 --> 00:28:38,173
And he says, basically, he said, did
these kids even know who Jesus is?

612
00:28:39,793 --> 00:28:42,063
And he hits him with that one,
that one line, basically, where

613
00:28:42,063 --> 00:28:49,673
he says, uh, wasn't Jesus born a
virgin and impacted by a ghost?

614
00:28:50,563 --> 00:28:51,523
And then you see,

615
00:28:51,618 --> 00:28:52,688
I wrote that down too.

616
00:28:53,048 --> 00:28:54,458
I was like, perfect.

617
00:28:54,663 --> 00:28:57,533
you see his face, you see
Sergeant Howie's face.

618
00:28:57,563 --> 00:29:00,113
And then, and then Lord
Summeris even says,

619
00:29:01,433 --> 00:29:04,063
sit down to absorb the shock.

620
00:29:04,683 --> 00:29:09,453
But it's when you put it in that
context, he just made those, he made,

621
00:29:09,453 --> 00:29:11,673
he made their culture, their paganism.

622
00:29:12,483 --> 00:29:18,413
Even with that first world religion,
we'll just call it, because right

623
00:29:18,413 --> 00:29:21,503
there, the, the stories without
the names on it was no different.

624
00:29:21,503 --> 00:29:24,963
And he showed him that that was a hard,
that was right in the middle of the movie.

625
00:29:25,203 --> 00:29:28,053
To me, that was one of the hardest
hitting moments in that movie

626
00:29:28,563 --> 00:29:30,033
to, to show it tight together.

627
00:29:30,423 --> 00:29:30,963
Um,

628
00:29:32,238 --> 00:29:37,138
Yeah, because it shows you that, It
doesn't make, like, even if they're all

629
00:29:37,138 --> 00:29:43,028
just stories, or let's say they're all
made up, these gods, these deities, these,

630
00:29:43,828 --> 00:29:51,668
whatever it is, um, or Jesus born from
a virgin, but conceived by a ghost, um,

631
00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:52,898
it

632
00:29:52,898 --> 00:29:55,908
doesn't make any of them less sacred.

633
00:29:56,568 --> 00:30:00,728
You, I mean, you can argue that
they could all be just as sacred.

634
00:30:00,818 --> 00:30:02,538
It's the meaning we put behind it.

635
00:30:02,538 --> 00:30:03,748
It's the devotion.

636
00:30:04,038 --> 00:30:07,228
And obviously, Sergeant Howey
is very devoted to his faith

637
00:30:07,518 --> 00:30:09,458
and very devoted to his values.

638
00:30:10,078 --> 00:30:14,738
But what we're seeing, even in today's
culture, is when does that, You know,

639
00:30:14,738 --> 00:30:17,998
perpetuate onto other people and what
they should or shouldn't believe.

640
00:30:18,538 --> 00:30:22,278
I love the way that the school teacher
explains death and she's like, well,

641
00:30:22,288 --> 00:30:27,199
when we die, we become the trees and we
become the plants and we become the air.

642
00:30:28,048 --> 00:30:33,523
And I'm, it reminded me of, uh,
when an interview with Neil Tyson

643
00:30:33,523 --> 00:30:38,158
Degrassi, the famous scientists,
most people know, um, he's kind of,

644
00:30:38,628 --> 00:30:40,788
kind of our modern age Einstein.

645
00:30:40,818 --> 00:30:42,958
We all look to him for scientific.

646
00:30:43,523 --> 00:30:44,663
Uh, expertise.

647
00:30:45,273 --> 00:30:48,573
And I saw an interview where
they asked, um, so what, do you

648
00:30:48,573 --> 00:30:49,693
believe in life after death?

649
00:30:49,713 --> 00:30:51,663
What do you, what do you
believe happens after we die?

650
00:30:51,683 --> 00:30:55,773
And he basically said almost the exact
same thing this teacher just described,

651
00:30:55,773 --> 00:31:01,013
which is our energy gets reformatted into
the, into the earth and into the sky and

652
00:31:01,045 --> 00:31:03,983
into the consciousness of, um, all beings.

653
00:31:04,033 --> 00:31:07,713
And like, energetically,
this is what we know.

654
00:31:07,883 --> 00:31:09,893
This scientifically, this is
what we know about energy.

655
00:31:09,923 --> 00:31:12,403
So it's like, what's
really the difference here?

656
00:31:12,823 --> 00:31:16,843
I mean, one comes with a story, the
other is a scientific explanation,

657
00:31:16,853 --> 00:31:20,273
but is anyone really wrong or right?

658
00:31:20,313 --> 00:31:22,943
Or, yeah, so.

659
00:31:22,988 --> 00:31:24,258
very interesting and

660
00:31:25,448 --> 00:31:30,408
I love how I honestly I in the 70s, I
wonder how this went over, you know,

661
00:31:30,408 --> 00:31:35,278
I wonder in that era Were people
open to this idea were they like?

662
00:31:35,278 --> 00:31:38,318
Oh, yeah I'd love to live on this
island who cared like that sounds

663
00:31:38,318 --> 00:31:41,058
like my kind of living or is it

664
00:31:42,218 --> 00:31:44,218
Terrifying like do you
see that wicker man?

665
00:31:44,788 --> 00:31:48,858
The only modern day thing I can think
of for that here is burning man But they

666
00:31:48,858 --> 00:31:54,108
don't put a person in that statue when
they burn it Um, how about that reaction?

667
00:31:54,838 --> 00:31:56,358
That he, when he walked over the hill,

668
00:31:56,363 --> 00:31:57,223
Yeah,

669
00:31:57,233 --> 00:31:58,333
did you see that?

670
00:31:58,453 --> 00:32:00,883
I noticed that too, um, that

671
00:32:01,053 --> 00:32:03,063
they did not prepare him.

672
00:32:03,063 --> 00:32:08,473
He had not seen, um, the actor
had not seen the Wicker Man until

673
00:32:08,473 --> 00:32:10,788
they pulled him into that scene.

674
00:32:10,818 --> 00:32:12,578
So the recording, the reaction was

675
00:32:13,738 --> 00:32:14,548
perfectly genuine.

676
00:32:14,778 --> 00:32:15,178
right?

677
00:32:15,278 --> 00:32:15,708
Yeah.

678
00:32:15,728 --> 00:32:18,668
And also when he got in that thing,
here's a, it is a funny note.

679
00:32:18,758 --> 00:32:22,028
When he got in there, they actually had a
goat above him and the goat peed on him.

680
00:32:22,408 --> 00:32:23,628
Uh, so that's

681
00:32:23,708 --> 00:32:23,908
Yeah,

682
00:32:23,908 --> 00:32:29,058
Yeah, no animals were harmed
in the making of this movie.

683
00:32:29,068 --> 00:32:31,628
However, the goat did

684
00:32:31,788 --> 00:32:32,778
the goat did pee.

685
00:32:33,798 --> 00:32:34,118
I bet,

686
00:32:34,168 --> 00:32:34,478
he was a

687
00:32:34,478 --> 00:32:34,586
bet

688
00:32:35,663 --> 00:32:36,068
A little bit.

689
00:32:36,368 --> 00:32:39,148
Edward Woodward gives a hell
of a performance right there.

690
00:32:39,148 --> 00:32:41,418
I guarantee, he had to be
terrified out of his mind.

691
00:32:41,888 --> 00:32:44,113
Uh, Because they actually
burnt that thing.

692
00:32:44,123 --> 00:32:46,033
Like, and I don't know
what that consists of.

693
00:32:46,303 --> 00:32:48,683
Like, I don't know if that's a couple
of guys drinking a six pack of beer

694
00:32:48,683 --> 00:32:49,773
saying, all right, we'll get it here.

695
00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:50,983
I don't know.

696
00:32:51,543 --> 00:32:55,133
That's how I would run it, but
I'm not an arsonist or whatever.

697
00:32:55,583 --> 00:32:57,313
What are you going to have
a legal license to do that?

698
00:32:58,453 --> 00:32:58,713
Yeah.

699
00:32:58,773 --> 00:33:01,283
Well, I do want to note one thing
about the scene when he comes

700
00:33:01,293 --> 00:33:03,283
back to talk to Lord Summerisle.

701
00:33:03,663 --> 00:33:07,443
Um, when, when he's playing the
piano and they're kind of discussing,

702
00:33:07,523 --> 00:33:09,923
uh, it was the second time I
think that they came back around.

703
00:33:10,373 --> 00:33:16,883
Um, he is wearing a, uh, lace collar,
uh, I think they called it a jabot or

704
00:33:16,883 --> 00:33:20,913
jabot, I'm not sure how you say it,
but, um, I said if he wanted to get

705
00:33:20,913 --> 00:33:24,873
away from the Dracula, uh, performances,
this maybe wasn't doing him any

706
00:33:24,873 --> 00:33:25,303
favors.

707
00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:30,163
He was wearing this very Dracula
like outfit, but with a Scottish kilt

708
00:33:30,983 --> 00:33:31,233
that

709
00:33:31,233 --> 00:33:34,403
was a Royal Stuart plaid.

710
00:33:35,253 --> 00:33:37,333
It was the red plaid kilt.

711
00:33:37,663 --> 00:33:37,843
Just,

712
00:33:38,233 --> 00:33:43,103
If anybody wanted to know what the
name of that specific Scottish plaid

713
00:33:43,163 --> 00:33:43,293
kilt

714
00:33:43,663 --> 00:33:45,903
he was wearing in that
scene, that's what it was.

715
00:33:46,323 --> 00:33:47,143
Royal Stuart.

716
00:33:48,203 --> 00:33:48,803
I love that.

717
00:33:48,803 --> 00:33:51,603
Hey, well, I might have to have that
for my Halloween costume this year.

718
00:33:53,093 --> 00:33:53,213
I'll

719
00:33:53,223 --> 00:33:53,923
That's a good one.

720
00:33:54,123 --> 00:33:54,953
I'll have to do that.

721
00:33:55,703 --> 00:34:03,443
So this movie, The End, It really
just boils down to, it's a, a powerful

722
00:34:03,443 --> 00:34:06,983
commentary on in, in the time.

723
00:34:06,983 --> 00:34:11,203
It was a powerful commentary on the
clash of beliefs, whether it was Pagan,

724
00:34:11,203 --> 00:34:16,583
whether it was religious, and the power
of community, because that community,

725
00:34:16,583 --> 00:34:18,083
there's no change in what they were doing.

726
00:34:18,923 --> 00:34:25,053
And I think that's a very key takeaway
to take from this as a overlying theme.

727
00:34:25,053 --> 00:34:28,193
It was clash of beliefs
versus the power of community.

728
00:34:29,638 --> 00:34:29,948
Yeah.

729
00:34:29,948 --> 00:34:32,608
and they did stick together
and they would have to, right?

730
00:34:32,608 --> 00:34:38,178
Because obviously this man was a
sergeant, a police officer in Scotland.

731
00:34:38,188 --> 00:34:39,398
He's going to go missing.

732
00:34:39,488 --> 00:34:41,298
He says at one point he has a fiance.

733
00:34:41,298 --> 00:34:41,678
So

734
00:34:41,938 --> 00:34:42,098
I

735
00:34:42,098 --> 00:34:46,405
think that the community is going
to have to stick it together to, uh,

736
00:34:46,803 --> 00:34:50,423
You know, close the community and be
like, this, we take this to our grave.

737
00:34:51,273 --> 00:34:53,472
If someone comes looking for
him, we don't know where he went.

738
00:34:54,323 --> 00:34:57,183
And they all stuck together with
the story of Rowan, the missing

739
00:34:57,183 --> 00:34:58,883
girl, so that they could trap him.

740
00:34:58,923 --> 00:35:00,509
And they did it.

741
00:35:00,843 --> 00:35:06,063
Um, but I would argue one thing that
is something to think about when it

742
00:35:06,063 --> 00:35:11,063
comes to these beliefs is, um, I don't
know many pagans personally that would

743
00:35:11,073 --> 00:35:17,582
actually sacrifice neither animal nor
human for any reason whatsoever, but

744
00:35:18,633 --> 00:35:24,253
I mean, which is the worst crime in
that a human sacrifice once in a while

745
00:35:24,619 --> 00:35:29,903
versus the damage done in the 15 to
1700s by Christians who were colonizing

746
00:35:30,273 --> 00:35:36,323
and, burning witches and, taking

747
00:35:36,323 --> 00:35:39,243
over and genocide and, um,

748
00:35:40,163 --> 00:35:40,363
Yeah,

749
00:35:40,363 --> 00:35:43,103
so, I mean, you could kind of like,
outweigh the evilness there, or

750
00:35:43,103 --> 00:35:46,773
the sin, um, which, which beliefs
have, have the worst of it.

751
00:35:46,823 --> 00:35:47,293
I don't know.

752
00:35:47,983 --> 00:35:49,083
Something to think about.

753
00:35:50,693 --> 00:35:52,833
Final thought on Wicker Man, and
then we're gonna get to Midsommar.

754
00:35:53,643 --> 00:35:54,063
Yeah.

755
00:35:55,033 --> 00:35:55,543
What do you got?

756
00:35:57,763 --> 00:36:05,103
So, my biggest takeaway is going to
be, in both movies, the comparison

757
00:36:05,153 --> 00:36:07,448
of the, of the main characters.

758
00:36:07,748 --> 00:36:11,818
So you have Sergeant Howie,
he's sticking to his Christian

759
00:36:11,818 --> 00:36:13,518
beliefs, even to the very end.

760
00:36:13,528 --> 00:36:16,628
He's like, I will be resurrected in
the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

761
00:36:16,678 --> 00:36:18,258
I mean, this is a very big deal for him.

762
00:36:18,258 --> 00:36:22,128
This is like, he's, he's thinking,
these people are all crazy

763
00:36:22,128 --> 00:36:23,558
and mad and I'm the right one.

764
00:36:23,578 --> 00:36:27,188
I'm the one who did, you
know, stuck true to my

765
00:36:27,188 --> 00:36:27,638
faith

766
00:36:27,643 --> 00:36:28,123
a mortar.

767
00:36:28,148 --> 00:36:36,763
and my And then you have, The main
character in Midsommar, who, I believe,

768
00:36:37,013 --> 00:36:37,423
the

769
00:36:37,433 --> 00:36:41,153
theme of that movie is similar to this

770
00:36:41,673 --> 00:36:44,193
outsider coming to a community, and

771
00:36:45,923 --> 00:36:46,113
It

772
00:36:46,113 --> 00:36:51,243
kind of is her story of embracing
it more than it is her being

773
00:36:51,243 --> 00:36:53,853
like, No, this is wrong.

774
00:36:54,223 --> 00:36:57,373
I'm sticking to my guns about Christianity
or my other belief or, you know,

775
00:36:57,373 --> 00:36:58,543
whatever beliefs I have or whatever.

776
00:36:58,593 --> 00:37:02,403
It's, it's a different kind
of, um, a story that we end up

777
00:37:02,403 --> 00:37:02,693
with.

778
00:37:02,693 --> 00:37:02,963
Right?

779
00:37:03,293 --> 00:37:04,743
Yeah, it's totally opposite, honestly.

780
00:37:04,743 --> 00:37:06,253
Like, the way you lay it out right there.

781
00:37:06,253 --> 00:37:08,063
So, let's get into it.

782
00:37:08,073 --> 00:37:09,013
You wanna get into Midsommar?

783
00:37:09,828 --> 00:37:10,448
Oh, yeah.

784
00:37:10,883 --> 00:37:11,283
Alright.

785
00:37:11,348 --> 00:37:11,928
I'm excited.

786
00:37:12,183 --> 00:37:12,983
I love this movie.

787
00:37:13,003 --> 00:37:19,083
I actually, I enjoy this movie,
but not in like a joyful way.

788
00:37:19,383 --> 00:37:20,273
You know, um,

789
00:37:21,338 --> 00:37:22,798
It's tough to watch.

790
00:37:23,013 --> 00:37:23,913
tough to watch.

791
00:37:25,153 --> 00:37:28,503
I'm gonna lay this out, though, a
little bit different than the horror.

792
00:37:29,138 --> 00:37:35,478
Movie that it actually is, but I'm
gonna also say that this is a revenge

793
00:37:35,478 --> 00:37:41,078
movie This is a breakup movie just a
it is if you really watch this thing

794
00:37:41,858 --> 00:37:45,688
in the arc that it goes This is a
breakup movie because right from the

795
00:37:45,918 --> 00:37:52,028
very beginning You see that Danny's
boyfriend is shitty like this guy's just

796
00:37:52,688 --> 00:37:54,898
Yes, thank you.

797
00:37:54,958 --> 00:37:55,688
Oh my gosh.

798
00:37:55,738 --> 00:37:57,758
And I have, okay.

799
00:37:57,768 --> 00:37:58,218
So

800
00:38:00,388 --> 00:38:04,488
I have to say first when the movie
starts, because if someone hasn't seen

801
00:38:04,488 --> 00:38:06,218
it yet, or if they're watching it, like.

802
00:38:06,678 --> 00:38:11,148
In, in tandem with what our
comments are, pay attention to

803
00:38:11,148 --> 00:38:13,578
the mural in the opening sequence.

804
00:38:14,518 --> 00:38:20,998
And any murals, like on tapestries, on
the walls, they're all foreshadowing.

805
00:38:21,108 --> 00:38:24,118
And the mural in the opening
sequence, when I paused on it and

806
00:38:24,118 --> 00:38:27,588
really looked at it, I was like, Oh
my gosh, this is the entire movie.

807
00:38:28,128 --> 00:38:30,048
Basically, they've laid
out the entire movie.

808
00:38:30,148 --> 00:38:35,198
it's, it goes from, uh, right to left,
like it goes the opposite direction.

809
00:38:35,498 --> 00:38:40,688
And I wanted to note also on that,
that mural is bright, it's colorful.

810
00:38:41,198 --> 00:38:41,728
And then what happens?

811
00:38:42,378 --> 00:38:47,728
It opens up in the middle to the
darkest, most dreary looking scene.

812
00:38:47,728 --> 00:38:50,018
It's snowy, it's isolated.

813
00:38:50,478 --> 00:38:51,558
We haven't used that word yet.

814
00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:54,788
Isolation was both of these movies.

815
00:38:55,493 --> 00:38:56,183
Was the biggest thing.

816
00:38:56,593 --> 00:39:01,053
When, when, going back to Wicker
Man, when, when, uh, Sergeant Howie,

817
00:39:02,133 --> 00:39:05,793
when he finds out his plane can't
start, that sense of isolation and

818
00:39:07,103 --> 00:39:09,283
alone, you were, you felt with him.

819
00:39:09,533 --> 00:39:11,913
You're like, oh, no, he's trapped.

820
00:39:12,753 --> 00:39:17,463
Same thing, same thing
from the very opening shot.

821
00:39:18,253 --> 00:39:20,223
There's that symbolism, that Ari Aster,

822
00:39:21,583 --> 00:39:21,703
the

823
00:39:21,703 --> 00:39:25,433
director, there's no, there's, I can tell
you right now, he did not not plan this.

824
00:39:26,233 --> 00:39:31,643
To go from this bright mural who told the
whole story to this underneath it dark.

825
00:39:31,863 --> 00:39:32,043
Damn.

826
00:39:32,563 --> 00:39:33,873
winter scene.

827
00:39:34,013 --> 00:39:34,573
Yes.

828
00:39:34,773 --> 00:39:36,713
And filmed in Utah, by the way.

829
00:39:36,733 --> 00:39:37,683
Oh, whoa

830
00:39:39,503 --> 00:39:40,063
Yes.

831
00:39:40,303 --> 00:39:41,463
This was filmed in Utah.

832
00:39:41,483 --> 00:39:42,723
I might not have known that we should

833
00:39:42,868 --> 00:39:46,908
That opening scene with Dani,
Dani is the main character, her

834
00:39:46,948 --> 00:39:48,718
parents and sister and their home.

835
00:39:49,348 --> 00:39:52,378
Um, the home was a home in Draper.

836
00:39:52,748 --> 00:39:57,168
And that scene, the winter scene
is, um, is the Salt Lake Valley.

837
00:39:57,713 --> 00:39:59,703
we may have to go out there and
get some footage over There I

838
00:39:59,703 --> 00:40:00,923
might have to go toward a house.

839
00:40:00,963 --> 00:40:04,643
We may have to go see that I don't
know bad stuff happened in that house

840
00:40:04,643 --> 00:40:07,173
in the very opening of this movie.

841
00:40:07,808 --> 00:40:08,018
Mm

842
00:40:08,303 --> 00:40:11,443
We see some we see something
It's so disturbing that you're

843
00:40:11,443 --> 00:40:15,063
like, uh, yeah, this is this this
movie's gonna fuck me up like it's

844
00:40:15,408 --> 00:40:15,708
yeah.

845
00:40:16,458 --> 00:40:20,578
Yeah, definitely has to set
the stage for the grief, right?

846
00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:27,028
There has to be this intense,
traumatic, heavy grief that the main

847
00:40:27,028 --> 00:40:28,558
character Danny, is coming from.

848
00:40:28,658 --> 00:40:30,428
Like, right from the beginning, right?

849
00:40:31,043 --> 00:40:35,093
And this is all within the
first 12 minutes of the movie.

850
00:40:35,163 --> 00:40:37,523
This is before the opening credits.

851
00:40:38,563 --> 00:40:41,353
You basically get to see
how shitty her boyfriend is.

852
00:40:42,023 --> 00:40:46,853
Blowing off her Basically worrying
about her sister not texting

853
00:40:46,853 --> 00:40:47,843
her back, calling her back.

854
00:40:47,883 --> 00:40:49,073
She can't get a hold of her parents.

855
00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:51,583
You can see the dread in her.

856
00:40:51,973 --> 00:40:55,973
And her boyfriend just He's smoking
resin or something, whatever he's doing.

857
00:40:56,513 --> 00:41:04,278
And the weird thing is, is That he's such
a piece of shit that he doesn't notice

858
00:41:05,658 --> 00:41:08,598
that she is completely disturbed.

859
00:41:08,998 --> 00:41:11,938
And if somebody's acting like
that, they've got some intuition.

860
00:41:11,948 --> 00:41:12,798
Something's wrong.

861
00:41:13,208 --> 00:41:13,938
You know, so

862
00:41:15,143 --> 00:41:15,673
Yeah.

863
00:41:15,803 --> 00:41:16,243
Yeah.

864
00:41:16,438 --> 00:41:19,148
not being there for her sets
up some stuff for later.

865
00:41:20,223 --> 00:41:20,503
Yeah.

866
00:41:20,503 --> 00:41:23,283
And I have to say all
of that, all of that.

867
00:41:23,283 --> 00:41:26,883
And there are several points throughout
the beginning, probably the first half

868
00:41:26,883 --> 00:41:33,013
of the movie that set this up, but the,
um, the experience that she has with

869
00:41:33,033 --> 00:41:38,578
boyfriend and his friends, it was so
triggering to me, and I'm not alone.

870
00:41:38,678 --> 00:41:40,908
This is why I'm mentioning it,
because I am sure there are

871
00:41:40,908 --> 00:41:42,428
going to be other young women.

872
00:41:42,948 --> 00:41:47,318
um, Or even middle aged women like
me who understand that feeling.

873
00:41:47,328 --> 00:41:51,158
Cause I was coming from a space
in my youth where I didn't have

874
00:41:51,158 --> 00:41:52,278
a lot of friends of my own.

875
00:41:53,368 --> 00:41:58,298
And so when I met my husband, who was my
boyfriend, he and his circle of friends

876
00:41:58,298 --> 00:42:00,938
became my social group completely.

877
00:42:00,948 --> 00:42:02,948
Like I was, I was alone otherwise.

878
00:42:03,548 --> 00:42:06,458
And so there were times when, you
know, he would want to like, go hang

879
00:42:06,458 --> 00:42:10,398
out with his friends and I would
be the tag along girlfriend, right?

880
00:42:10,418 --> 00:42:11,328
That awkwardness.

881
00:42:11,338 --> 00:42:11,958
That's like.

882
00:42:13,338 --> 00:42:17,638
they make her feel so
crappy about herself.

883
00:42:17,758 --> 00:42:20,658
It was like, Oh, I know
this is all too familiar.

884
00:42:20,698 --> 00:42:21,968
I know this feeling.

885
00:42:21,968 --> 00:42:25,938
Not that anyone purposely made me feel
that way, but I know that feeling.

886
00:42:26,278 --> 00:42:32,968
And I felt for her because she was
just trying really hard to just be as

887
00:42:33,268 --> 00:42:34,158
small

888
00:42:34,718 --> 00:42:41,933
and Unburdened, not a burden to
her, to this group as possible.

889
00:42:41,973 --> 00:42:45,893
And yet she still was made to feel
like she was the burden constantly.

890
00:42:47,408 --> 00:42:47,703
Oh

891
00:42:47,708 --> 00:42:53,783
After going through the biggest tragic
Events that you could possibly think of

892
00:42:54,653 --> 00:42:59,463
and they literally that she walks into
the room and they're like, oh she's

893
00:42:59,873 --> 00:43:02,533
they're like, Oh, I guess you
can come to Sweden with us.

894
00:43:02,953 --> 00:43:03,613
Sure.

895
00:43:03,773 --> 00:43:07,533
think her boyfriend christian isn't
bad or is it bad enough there's

896
00:43:07,533 --> 00:43:09,293
his friend mark he's a shithead too

897
00:43:10,003 --> 00:43:10,683
I hate Mark.

898
00:43:11,793 --> 00:43:15,303
I am so okay with what happens to Mark.

899
00:43:15,393 --> 00:43:16,073
Okay?

900
00:43:16,883 --> 00:43:19,193
Yeah.

901
00:43:19,363 --> 00:43:24,793
credits where you even see Who you know
ari's name and and the name of the movie.

902
00:43:25,223 --> 00:43:26,953
It's This

903
00:43:28,223 --> 00:43:31,243
awful, and they don't, they don't stare
away from showing you any of this.

904
00:43:31,253 --> 00:43:37,263
You see the holes in the mouth of the
girl, of her sister, the, the crying

905
00:43:38,263 --> 00:43:39,343
that is not edited.

906
00:43:40,003 --> 00:43:43,318
It's you can, Florence
Pugh, she played Danny.

907
00:43:44,703 --> 00:43:46,243
This is a, this is a performance.

908
00:43:46,273 --> 00:43:47,553
I don't know how she got in.

909
00:43:47,883 --> 00:43:49,083
Like, she's gotta be,

910
00:43:50,233 --> 00:43:53,153
she could have got an Oscar for
this, this awesome performance.

911
00:43:53,253 --> 00:43:54,133
And you, like,

912
00:43:54,138 --> 00:43:54,768
I think so.

913
00:43:55,223 --> 00:43:56,383
I hurt, I hurt for

914
00:43:56,508 --> 00:43:57,168
She's incredible.

915
00:43:57,678 --> 00:43:58,098
Yeah.

916
00:43:58,158 --> 00:43:58,668
the crying.

917
00:43:58,698 --> 00:44:00,018
the grief that she

918
00:44:00,018 --> 00:44:00,618
shows.

919
00:44:00,678 --> 00:44:01,308
oh my gosh.

920
00:44:01,308 --> 00:44:02,928
You can feel it in your body.

921
00:44:03,078 --> 00:44:03,768
You can feel it.

922
00:44:04,383 --> 00:44:05,193
And the rest of the movie.

923
00:44:05,193 --> 00:44:08,563
It really sets the tone for the rest
of the movie, because you know this

924
00:44:08,563 --> 00:44:10,783
is not gonna, gonna go, go good.

925
00:44:12,243 --> 00:44:12,863
They go,

926
00:44:13,983 --> 00:44:17,303
what about, hold on, before
they get to land in Sweden,

927
00:44:17,303 --> 00:44:18,693
what about that transition?

928
00:44:19,413 --> 00:44:26,993
That, the, Opele, the, oh, the,
Rico Suave here, trying to swoop in.

929
00:44:26,993 --> 00:44:29,103
He's the only one that
likes Danny being around.

930
00:44:29,463 --> 00:44:30,543
And he gives her those

931
00:44:31,883 --> 00:44:33,673
seductive eyes right from the get.

932
00:44:34,868 --> 00:44:35,498
Yeah.

933
00:44:36,493 --> 00:44:36,823
Go ahead.

934
00:44:36,878 --> 00:44:38,678
that's really setting something up.

935
00:44:38,708 --> 00:44:45,688
This is setting up, um, the theme of
belonging like she does not feel and she's

936
00:44:45,688 --> 00:44:49,408
made to feel like she does not belong
here She does not belong on this trip.

937
00:44:49,408 --> 00:44:54,498
She does not belong with Christian
Christian is kind of like Not even really

938
00:44:54,498 --> 00:44:58,838
hiding the fact that he was gonna break
up with her and now he feels like he can't

939
00:44:59,034 --> 00:45:00,888
Because she's gone through a tragedy.

940
00:45:00,928 --> 00:45:03,128
So he kind of has to stay with her and

941
00:45:03,638 --> 00:45:06,838
he's not hiding it Well, he's
definitely treating her like I mean,

942
00:45:06,888 --> 00:45:10,778
I'm going to a party, but you, don't
have to go if you don't feel up to

943
00:45:10,778 --> 00:45:11,018
it.

944
00:45:11,713 --> 00:45:12,633
and then gets there and

945
00:45:12,958 --> 00:45:13,738
so, yeah.

946
00:45:13,903 --> 00:45:15,993
She finds out, oh, you're going to Sweden?

947
00:45:15,993 --> 00:45:17,593
Like, in two weeks?

948
00:45:18,373 --> 00:45:18,583
Like,

949
00:45:18,903 --> 00:45:19,153
Yeah.

950
00:45:19,203 --> 00:45:21,988
and he's like, well, I was
going to make me think about it.

951
00:45:21,988 --> 00:45:26,063
Well, Pele, it does not, it does
not, he does not have to work very

952
00:45:26,063 --> 00:45:33,353
hard to go to look at her and to just
feel, you know, have a conversation

953
00:45:33,353 --> 00:45:35,593
where she feels like, I see you.

954
00:45:35,653 --> 00:45:37,843
I'm sorry for what happened to you.

955
00:45:38,293 --> 00:45:40,873
Um, happy birthday.

956
00:45:40,893 --> 00:45:46,473
Like all of these moments where he gets
a chance to be like, you deserve to be

957
00:45:47,273 --> 00:45:48,023
seen,

958
00:45:48,203 --> 00:45:48,863
Danny.

959
00:45:48,883 --> 00:45:49,373
right?

960
00:45:50,173 --> 00:45:51,313
Draws a picture of her.

961
00:45:51,343 --> 00:45:52,753
Like, a beautiful picture.

962
00:45:53,248 --> 00:45:53,428
Mm hmm.

963
00:45:54,513 --> 00:45:56,793
Oh, it's just something I
do for people's birthdays.

964
00:45:56,793 --> 00:45:57,563
Yeah, right.

965
00:45:57,573 --> 00:45:58,223
Come on, man.

966
00:45:58,223 --> 00:45:59,463
We see through this.

967
00:46:00,353 --> 00:46:00,553
But

968
00:46:02,023 --> 00:46:07,263
the transition from when they, I'm gonna
talk about the actual film transition

969
00:46:07,703 --> 00:46:12,283
before they get to Sweden when she's
talking to Pele and she gets upset and

970
00:46:12,293 --> 00:46:15,893
she goes into the bathroom and then it
does, she's in the airplane bathroom.

971
00:46:15,893 --> 00:46:16,503
Did you notice it?

972
00:46:16,538 --> 00:46:17,318
Yeah, that

973
00:46:17,318 --> 00:46:17,628
too.

974
00:46:18,093 --> 00:46:18,263
that.

975
00:46:18,283 --> 00:46:21,933
Ari did a great job of somehow
putting that together where

976
00:46:23,123 --> 00:46:28,283
you, as a viewer, you didn't have
a choice to get out of this trip.

977
00:46:29,293 --> 00:46:29,993
You're there now.

978
00:46:30,083 --> 00:46:32,943
You're already, you're
already on the plane.

979
00:46:32,953 --> 00:46:33,843
You're going to Sweden.

980
00:46:34,083 --> 00:46:36,113
So it's almost like you're
isolated as a viewer.

981
00:46:36,113 --> 00:46:36,513
Yeah.

982
00:46:36,983 --> 00:46:37,543
Um,

983
00:46:38,518 --> 00:46:40,998
But it makes you feel
everything from her perspective.

984
00:46:41,008 --> 00:46:45,708
because you're feeling like her, like,
bam, all of a sudden she's on the plane.

985
00:46:45,718 --> 00:46:48,278
I mean, this is probably
what it feels like in grief.

986
00:46:48,278 --> 00:46:50,078
There's like no weeks and months.

987
00:46:50,138 --> 00:46:52,658
It's just like, everything
is happening right now.

988
00:46:52,958 --> 00:46:56,768
And she's propelling forward
based on just momentum.

989
00:46:56,768 --> 00:47:00,108
Not really because she's got
any energy to go through it.

990
00:47:00,738 --> 00:47:05,248
And I was going to say lots of
foreshadowing in the beginning.

991
00:47:05,748 --> 00:47:09,008
if you notice in the parents'
bedroom, there's a picture of

992
00:47:09,008 --> 00:47:14,388
Danny, on the nightstand and then
there's a crown of flowers right

993
00:47:14,418 --> 00:47:15,378
over the picture of Danny.

994
00:47:16,293 --> 00:47:19,723
so lots of cool foreshadowing going on in
the beginning in the opening sequences.

995
00:47:19,723 --> 00:47:20,973
I don't want people to miss that.

996
00:47:21,803 --> 00:47:22,643
Um, but

997
00:47:22,703 --> 00:47:23,333
in that opening?

998
00:47:23,373 --> 00:47:24,113
Because I love that.

999
00:47:24,113 --> 00:47:25,393
I want to know more
about that kind of stuff.

1000
00:47:26,293 --> 00:47:26,803
Yeah.

1001
00:47:26,903 --> 00:47:28,183
Um, so.

1002
00:47:29,023 --> 00:47:29,383
Let me see.

1003
00:47:29,383 --> 00:47:35,163
I wrote down some, uh, some things that,
uh, there's a picture and I'm not sure if

1004
00:47:35,163 --> 00:47:38,813
it's Christian's room or Dani's room, but
she's in grief and she's kind of sleeping.

1005
00:47:39,323 --> 00:47:42,443
There's a picture on the
wall of a bear and a princess

1006
00:47:42,743 --> 00:47:43,203
Ah.

1007
00:47:43,638 --> 00:47:46,028
kind of like hugging the
bear or kissing the bear.

1008
00:47:46,408 --> 00:47:48,208
Um, there's a name for that painting.

1009
00:47:48,208 --> 00:47:50,668
I can't remember what it's
called, but that was also an

1010
00:47:50,688 --> 00:47:52,308
intentional foreshadowing there.

1011
00:47:52,378 --> 00:47:54,863
So you want to watch out for stuff like

1012
00:47:55,163 --> 00:47:55,763
I love that.

1013
00:47:56,153 --> 00:48:02,853
So they land in Stockholm and
then have a four hour drive.

1014
00:48:03,723 --> 00:48:06,693
I didn't even know you could drive four
more hours after you land in Stockholm.

1015
00:48:06,733 --> 00:48:07,163
Anywhere.

1016
00:48:07,183 --> 00:48:09,363
Like, I thought it was, you
know, I've never been over there.

1017
00:48:09,573 --> 00:48:10,523
I love the Swedes.

1018
00:48:10,523 --> 00:48:10,653
I do.

1019
00:48:10,653 --> 00:48:13,613
I have some friends who live over there.

1020
00:48:14,173 --> 00:48:15,813
And I've always wanted to go over there.

1021
00:48:16,413 --> 00:48:18,053
But I don't know about going
to one of these things.

1022
00:48:18,053 --> 00:48:19,933
But it does look fun from the beginning.

1023
00:48:21,708 --> 00:48:22,188
Mm hmm.

1024
00:48:22,188 --> 00:48:23,008
Yeah.

1025
00:48:23,473 --> 00:48:24,313
their Pele shows.

1026
00:48:24,323 --> 00:48:27,453
I mean, they bring them
down this dirt road.

1027
00:48:28,073 --> 00:48:29,468
It looked a lot like where I grew up.

1028
00:48:29,523 --> 00:48:29,603
I love it.

1029
00:48:30,903 --> 00:48:34,013
Until you get up there and you see
these, you see the, he's like the young

1030
00:48:34,013 --> 00:48:39,003
kids or whatever it was and This is
the beginning of the Harger community,

1031
00:48:39,063 --> 00:48:41,273
the Harger community, I believe it was.

1032
00:48:44,043 --> 00:48:44,743
They get off.

1033
00:48:45,773 --> 00:48:49,413
They're like, oh, we're on
vacation Oh, here's some rooms

1034
00:48:50,598 --> 00:48:50,958
Yeah!

1035
00:48:51,223 --> 00:48:51,483
Sounds

1036
00:48:51,818 --> 00:48:55,168
Again, another opportunity to make
Dani feel like a burden because

1037
00:48:55,178 --> 00:48:57,773
she's like, you know what, I
think I maybe want to get settled

1038
00:48:57,848 --> 00:49:00,228
in before I do all that, but that's fine.

1039
00:49:00,228 --> 00:49:01,068
You guys go ahead.

1040
00:49:01,658 --> 00:49:03,498
And then Christian's like,
well, no, I feel like

1041
00:49:03,498 --> 00:49:03,628
I

1042
00:49:03,628 --> 00:49:05,423
can't do it right now.

1043
00:49:05,423 --> 00:49:07,323
And then he's like, we're going to wait.

1044
00:49:07,323 --> 00:49:08,783
I'm going to do it with Danny later.

1045
00:49:08,803 --> 00:49:10,563
And then Mark's like,
what do you mean later?

1046
00:49:10,573 --> 00:49:15,163
And it's like, Oh, that scene
was just, again, another

1047
00:49:15,193 --> 00:49:15,403
reiteration

1048
00:49:16,233 --> 00:49:19,843
of like, here's Danny
tagging along the girlfriend.

1049
00:49:20,043 --> 00:49:22,253
Christian won't go on a trip without her.

1050
00:49:22,623 --> 00:49:23,713
All that kind of, yeah.

1051
00:49:23,733 --> 00:49:27,733
Yep, and he his friends aren't
the best people anyway, honestly,

1052
00:49:27,943 --> 00:49:32,423
they're they're the um, Josh's
going over there for his thesis.

1053
00:49:32,533 --> 00:49:37,843
Like he's going over there taking
in the culture He gets into a little

1054
00:49:37,843 --> 00:49:39,663
trouble later, but we'll get to that.

1055
00:49:40,083 --> 00:49:40,723
But literally,

1056
00:49:40,783 --> 00:49:41,223
He's focused.

1057
00:49:41,373 --> 00:49:42,453
in, this is fun.

1058
00:49:42,463 --> 00:49:44,003
Like, we're tripping balls.

1059
00:49:44,983 --> 00:49:45,283
Yeah.

1060
00:49:45,653 --> 00:49:48,443
Then it starts, you're like, wait a
minute, something's not feeling right.

1061
00:49:49,053 --> 00:49:51,483
Even when she looks down at her foot and
she sees the grass growing through, you're

1062
00:49:51,483 --> 00:49:53,813
like, or the hand or whatever it was.

1063
00:49:54,513 --> 00:49:54,693
I'm

1064
00:49:54,703 --> 00:49:55,143
yeah.

1065
00:49:55,143 --> 00:49:56,543
The grass is going through her hands.

1066
00:49:56,543 --> 00:49:58,463
So again, you're seeing
it from her perspective.

1067
00:49:58,493 --> 00:50:03,023
So she's like, and then someone
mentions family and it triggers her.

1068
00:50:03,053 --> 00:50:05,203
And she's, you know, having a bad trip.

1069
00:50:05,213 --> 00:50:09,763
Cause she's like, um, you know, but you're
feeling that disorientation with her.

1070
00:50:09,863 --> 00:50:10,223
Aren't you?

1071
00:50:10,223 --> 00:50:11,323
Like you're feeling like.

1072
00:50:12,583 --> 00:50:16,893
How I imagine I would feel on shrooms
when I'm like not feeling so good

1073
00:50:16,893 --> 00:50:18,773
and I'm like, oh my gosh, where am I?

1074
00:50:18,813 --> 00:50:20,113
I just, I want to feel normal.

1075
00:50:20,493 --> 00:50:23,583
She just flew to the middle of
nowhere, halfway around the world.

1076
00:50:25,023 --> 00:50:28,163
top of that, you got the sun.

1077
00:50:29,983 --> 00:50:30,503
Yes.

1078
00:50:33,138 --> 00:50:37,648
To a viewer, to who's there, it's
crazy because He asked, one of

1079
00:50:37,648 --> 00:50:39,768
them asked, they say when they're
on the shrimps, what time is it?

1080
00:50:39,778 --> 00:50:43,238
And he says 9 o'clock and that's when
Mark freaks the fuck out It's like,

1081
00:50:43,358 --> 00:50:43,728
Right.

1082
00:50:43,785 --> 00:50:47,688
be 9 o'clock It can't be 9 o'clock And
they freak me out because it's broad

1083
00:50:47,698 --> 00:50:51,573
daylight I did notice on the There's a
little, there's a little, I don't think

1084
00:50:51,573 --> 00:50:58,393
it's an easter egg, but maybe it is, but
in Wicker Man, he asks, what time is it?

1085
00:50:58,393 --> 00:50:59,553
And she says, a little after nine.

1086
00:51:00,203 --> 00:51:03,363
So, I noticed it was two, it was nine p.

1087
00:51:03,363 --> 00:51:03,553
m.

1088
00:51:03,553 --> 00:51:06,553
for both Wicker Man and Midsommar,
so I thought that was kind of cool.

1089
00:51:07,283 --> 00:51:09,333
that disorientation, because,

1090
00:51:09,478 --> 00:51:10,648
is disorienting.

1091
00:51:10,678 --> 00:51:13,298
I don't know if you've ever been
up North, but I remember going

1092
00:51:13,298 --> 00:51:17,778
to Alaska, visiting Alaska, and
when we arrived, it was like 10pm.

1093
00:51:18,078 --> 00:51:18,198
We

1094
00:51:18,198 --> 00:51:22,593
were going to check into our
hotel, It total daylight outside.

1095
00:51:22,613 --> 00:51:24,293
I was so disoriented.

1096
00:51:24,333 --> 00:51:24,863
I'm like,

1097
00:51:25,323 --> 00:51:25,333
I

1098
00:51:25,343 --> 00:51:26,553
mean, Mark isn't wrong there.

1099
00:51:26,553 --> 00:51:27,493
That's disorienting.

1100
00:51:27,503 --> 00:51:29,313
That's uncomfortable when
you're not used to that.

1101
00:51:29,313 --> 00:51:30,163
And you're like, wait,

1102
00:51:30,463 --> 00:51:30,763
people

1103
00:51:30,763 --> 00:51:32,663
are out mowing their lawns right now.

1104
00:51:32,693 --> 00:51:35,129
It's, it looks like the
middle of the day and it's.

1105
00:51:35,783 --> 00:51:40,253
your mind is like, it's supposed to
be night or bedtime or something, but

1106
00:51:40,253 --> 00:51:43,933
I wrote down in my notes, just, it's
just funny that you said the friends.

1107
00:51:43,933 --> 00:51:46,393
I just wrote Mark is an asshole Just

1108
00:51:47,023 --> 00:51:48,293
He is, man, he really is.

1109
00:51:48,458 --> 00:51:50,508
because he's like everybody lay down.

1110
00:51:50,798 --> 00:51:53,098
We all need to lay down
because I want to lay down.

1111
00:51:53,128 --> 00:51:54,428
So everybody lay down with me.

1112
00:51:54,458 --> 00:51:55,308
Come on, everybody.

1113
00:51:55,308 --> 00:51:56,298
We're doing it with me.

1114
00:51:56,628 --> 00:51:59,888
I love how he was the one that was
like all about everybody do this

1115
00:51:59,888 --> 00:52:03,288
everybody do this and he's the first
one having a Bad trip and bitching about

1116
00:52:03,598 --> 00:52:05,388
yeah, everybody lay down like that.

1117
00:52:05,478 --> 00:52:08,178
Yeah, that's what I expected
from a guy like that I think

1118
00:52:08,328 --> 00:52:09,768
we've all known people like that

1119
00:52:11,648 --> 00:52:11,668
know.

1120
00:52:12,448 --> 00:52:12,748
Yeah.

1121
00:52:12,818 --> 00:52:13,558
So that's just it.

1122
00:52:13,558 --> 00:52:14,188
That's in my notes.

1123
00:52:14,258 --> 00:52:15,388
Just Mark is an asshole.

1124
00:52:15,508 --> 00:52:16,628
Like we're just agree on that.

1125
00:52:17,828 --> 00:52:18,418
Moving on.

1126
00:52:19,418 --> 00:52:23,058
the next day So after they they get
there they get so they trip balls.

1127
00:52:23,058 --> 00:52:28,388
They have all that 30 35 minutes in
35 minutes in is when they actually

1128
00:52:28,428 --> 00:52:33,093
arrive At the Horga, you see the big

1129
00:52:34,373 --> 00:52:36,233
open arch, whatever that thing is.

1130
00:52:36,273 --> 00:52:38,743
Is that symbolized anything
or was that just art?

1131
00:52:39,673 --> 00:52:42,693
The sun, they talk about
it a lot in this movie.

1132
00:52:42,693 --> 00:52:45,953
Like we are making these
offerings to the sun.

1133
00:52:46,223 --> 00:52:47,503
The sun is really important

1134
00:52:47,803 --> 00:52:48,143
um,

1135
00:52:48,173 --> 00:52:49,743
at this summer solstice.

1136
00:52:49,803 --> 00:52:50,823
It's midsummer.

1137
00:52:50,923 --> 00:52:52,933
Um, so their festival
is all about the sun.

1138
00:52:52,943 --> 00:52:58,488
It's going to be a, like, a, In order
to have bountiful harvest, which

1139
00:52:58,498 --> 00:53:04,068
again is like in Wicker Man, um, the
rituals are all about, uh, you know,

1140
00:53:04,068 --> 00:53:05,448
coming from a place of survival.

1141
00:53:05,458 --> 00:53:07,678
We won't survive winter without this.

1142
00:53:08,148 --> 00:53:12,038
So we are doing everything
possible, including rituals

1143
00:53:12,038 --> 00:53:14,028
and offerings and singings and

1144
00:53:14,328 --> 00:53:20,333
festivals, um, to honor the gods
of the sun, the earth, Fertility,

1145
00:53:20,713 --> 00:53:26,153
anything that's gonna feed us our food
throughout the winter and make sure we

1146
00:53:26,153 --> 00:53:29,523
survive, that's what it's all about.

1147
00:53:29,573 --> 00:53:30,113
So yeah.

1148
00:53:30,753 --> 00:53:32,303
Yeah, They're doing all the,

1149
00:53:33,893 --> 00:53:34,483
all the stuff.

1150
00:53:34,643 --> 00:53:39,023
So, the festivities kind of
begin when they get there.

1151
00:53:39,133 --> 00:53:42,623
And you start seeing some
of that foreshadow come in.

1152
00:53:43,463 --> 00:53:47,793
Even when they say, you know what, when
he says, What are those kids doing?

1153
00:53:47,793 --> 00:53:49,893
And he's like, Oh, they're
playing skin the fool.

1154
00:53:50,763 --> 00:53:51,563
And they're laughing about it.

1155
00:53:51,563 --> 00:53:51,993
So

1156
00:53:53,363 --> 00:53:53,973
I noted

1157
00:53:53,983 --> 00:53:54,953
that the second time.

1158
00:53:55,148 --> 00:53:58,348
That's not a, that's not a, sure it's
a game for kids, but that's because

1159
00:53:58,508 --> 00:53:59,878
they're gonna do that later in life.

1160
00:54:00,358 --> 00:54:01,708
Like it's, that was

1161
00:54:01,883 --> 00:54:03,153
little foreshadowing there.

1162
00:54:03,193 --> 00:54:04,773
Oh, they're playing skin the fool.

1163
00:54:05,053 --> 00:54:08,233
There's one of their party that is
going to play the part of the fool,

1164
00:54:08,263 --> 00:54:09,623
and it's exactly who you think it's

1165
00:54:09,713 --> 00:54:09,793
gonna

1166
00:54:09,903 --> 00:54:10,113
be.

1167
00:54:10,438 --> 00:54:11,108
Exactly.

1168
00:54:11,148 --> 00:54:14,068
And then you see, there's school.

1169
00:54:14,338 --> 00:54:17,368
And you find, and this is when it's
really, I mean, we've already seen

1170
00:54:17,368 --> 00:54:19,148
all these red flags of, this is.

1171
00:54:19,623 --> 00:54:21,453
Something, something
weird's going on here.

1172
00:54:22,003 --> 00:54:24,303
Um, but this is a real big one.

1173
00:54:24,443 --> 00:54:26,753
When they go behind there like, oh,
the kids are doing their school.

1174
00:54:26,853 --> 00:54:27,733
Oh, what are they learning?

1175
00:54:28,163 --> 00:54:29,713
Oh, it's rune carving class.

1176
00:54:29,723 --> 00:54:30,183
You're like, that's

1177
00:54:31,563 --> 00:54:31,683
Yeah.

1178
00:54:32,033 --> 00:54:35,083
not, that's not actually school.

1179
00:54:35,093 --> 00:54:39,303
You know, you're thinking, oh,
they're doing math by the creek.

1180
00:54:39,383 --> 00:54:40,053
No, no, no, no, no.

1181
00:54:40,053 --> 00:54:42,323
Rune carving, which comes into play later.

1182
00:54:42,393 --> 00:54:47,453
well, consider that the runic
alphabet is, um, and by the way,

1183
00:54:47,463 --> 00:54:53,003
just to clarify, because, um, this
movie did make up its own runes.

1184
00:54:53,163 --> 00:54:57,743
Um, they call it the Elder and the
Younger Futhark or something like that.

1185
00:54:57,763 --> 00:54:59,423
They talk about it when
they look at the stones.

1186
00:55:00,003 --> 00:55:04,363
Um, it's based off of Scandinavian
and Nordic runes, but it's not

1187
00:55:04,423 --> 00:55:05,893
like they made it up for the movie.

1188
00:55:06,383 --> 00:55:09,888
Um, I think probably because they
didn't want to associate like

1189
00:55:09,888 --> 00:55:13,658
these negative connotations with
actual culture, uh, that exists.

1190
00:55:14,288 --> 00:55:16,698
But the runic alphabet
is that it is just that.

1191
00:55:16,798 --> 00:55:17,578
it's an alphabet.

1192
00:55:17,608 --> 00:55:18,928
It's letters.

1193
00:55:19,058 --> 00:55:22,078
So it would be essentially the
same as children sitting around

1194
00:55:22,217 --> 00:55:26,298
learning their alphabet, carving
their letters into stones and wood

1195
00:55:26,418 --> 00:55:27,708
to learn how to read and write.

1196
00:55:28,508 --> 00:55:32,089
So yeah, we could take it in
context with like, okay, so this

1197
00:55:32,089 --> 00:55:33,996
is just the cultural alphabet.

1198
00:55:33,996 --> 00:55:35,698
This is their cultural school.

1199
00:55:36,158 --> 00:55:36,588
I think.

1200
00:55:36,793 --> 00:55:41,763
For me, most of the movie until you
get to certain practices that are

1201
00:55:41,783 --> 00:55:47,773
inhumane, um, I think that this commune
and society are quite wonderful.

1202
00:55:48,073 --> 00:55:48,523
I'm

1203
00:55:48,533 --> 00:55:50,803
looking at it much like the
community in Wicker Man.

1204
00:55:50,923 --> 00:55:54,353
at The beginning, you're like,
sunshine and roses, these

1205
00:55:54,353 --> 00:55:55,713
people have it figured out.

1206
00:55:55,723 --> 00:55:56,603
They're a community.

1207
00:55:56,668 --> 00:55:57,843
They take care of each other.

1208
00:55:57,853 --> 00:55:59,683
They take care of their young together.

1209
00:55:59,683 --> 00:56:00,633
They take care of their

1210
00:56:01,513 --> 00:56:02,053
Old, to

1211
00:56:02,053 --> 00:56:03,333
a certain point.

1212
00:56:03,333 --> 00:56:03,923
Yeah.

1213
00:56:05,573 --> 00:56:05,813
To a

1214
00:56:05,893 --> 00:56:08,063
I say that with a, an asterisk, right?

1215
00:56:08,093 --> 00:56:08,423
Like,

1216
00:56:08,773 --> 00:56:09,123
Now

1217
00:56:09,233 --> 00:56:09,543
to a certain

1218
00:56:10,473 --> 00:56:14,243
I'll, I'll accept that Courtney, but I'm
gonna have to, I'm gonna have to call

1219
00:56:14,243 --> 00:56:15,543
you out a little bit on that because.

1220
00:56:15,628 --> 00:56:20,728
I think he specifically says something
along the lines of they're carving runes.

1221
00:56:20,728 --> 00:56:23,218
It's their, it's their
form of power, you know?

1222
00:56:24,178 --> 00:56:28,508
So he does give a little
extra piece to that.

1223
00:56:29,178 --> 00:56:31,328
I love when you're trying
to say, ah, it's okay.

1224
00:56:31,398 --> 00:56:32,198
It's okay.

1225
00:56:32,983 --> 00:56:34,153
Yeah, it could be taken that.

1226
00:56:34,203 --> 00:56:40,173
And also, just so everyone knows, the
Nordic runes are a power that Odin

1227
00:56:40,213 --> 00:56:43,313
sacrificed nine days hanging from a tree

1228
00:56:43,613 --> 00:56:43,753
to

1229
00:56:43,753 --> 00:56:46,283
get the wisdom from the, from the Fates.

1230
00:56:46,793 --> 00:56:47,203
So.

1231
00:56:47,578 --> 00:56:49,998
that is also power.

1232
00:56:50,078 --> 00:56:53,078
And, I don't know, in that
context, they're both.

1233
00:56:53,128 --> 00:56:53,968
They're one and the same.

1234
00:56:53,978 --> 00:56:56,078
They're an alphabet, a
reading and writing system.

1235
00:56:56,418 --> 00:56:57,928
But you could dare say that our.

1236
00:56:58,228 --> 00:56:58,488
uh,

1237
00:56:58,498 --> 00:57:04,218
Modern day alphabet in English has power
as well if you decide to put power to it.

1238
00:57:04,338 --> 00:57:04,658
So,

1239
00:57:04,808 --> 00:57:05,198
It's so cool.

1240
00:57:05,408 --> 00:57:05,868
So cool.

1241
00:57:05,888 --> 00:57:06,463
I love it.

1242
00:57:08,258 --> 00:57:11,408
the, after they walk, this is on
their way to their, their, their room.

1243
00:57:11,408 --> 00:57:13,748
Then they walk up to
this, this fucking barn.

1244
00:57:13,948 --> 00:57:14,898
It's just a barn, right?

1245
00:57:14,898 --> 00:57:15,788
Like that's what it is.

1246
00:57:16,428 --> 00:57:16,948
Yeah.

1247
00:57:16,968 --> 00:57:19,968
And you're like, oh my God, they're
going to be sleeping in there.

1248
00:57:19,968 --> 00:57:20,968
We're like, Hey.

1249
00:57:21,938 --> 00:57:23,098
Let's get what's happening here.

1250
00:57:23,128 --> 00:57:24,498
You know, this ain't no Best Western.

1251
00:57:24,583 --> 00:57:25,368
That's what they're thinking.

1252
00:57:25,798 --> 00:57:28,278
And, they open the doors.

1253
00:57:28,518 --> 00:57:29,158
And what do they see?

1254
00:57:31,288 --> 00:57:33,658
Is this the, the, um,
where all of the children

1255
00:57:33,688 --> 00:57:34,278
sleep?

1256
00:57:34,308 --> 00:57:34,828
they're sleeping.

1257
00:57:34,828 --> 00:57:35,613
Where everybody's sleeping.

1258
00:57:36,468 --> 00:57:42,458
it's like a, it's like this, um, I
don't know, like massive bunk bed

1259
00:57:42,758 --> 00:57:43,878
And it's the walls.

1260
00:57:43,938 --> 00:57:44,638
The ceiling.

1261
00:57:44,728 --> 00:57:45,738
And it's beautiful.

1262
00:57:45,748 --> 00:57:46,428
It's a mural.

1263
00:57:46,428 --> 00:57:47,328
It's all these

1264
00:57:47,738 --> 00:57:51,048
Oh yeah, the carvings and
paintings and murals all over

1265
00:57:51,048 --> 00:57:52,838
the wall that tell stories.

1266
00:57:52,888 --> 00:57:55,478
I think that's amazing and incredible.

1267
00:57:55,518 --> 00:57:58,808
But they're also pointing out that
like there's fertility symbols on

1268
00:57:58,808 --> 00:58:00,748
these walls or like kids sleep here.

1269
00:58:00,748 --> 00:58:01,688
There's pictures of dicks

1270
00:58:02,028 --> 00:58:02,648
Yeah, I know.

1271
00:58:02,648 --> 00:58:03,488
It was like all over.

1272
00:58:03,488 --> 00:58:05,198
It's just sexual positions.

1273
00:58:05,198 --> 00:58:06,728
I saw stuff I didn't even see before.

1274
00:58:06,738 --> 00:58:06,913
Like, it's

1275
00:58:07,193 --> 00:58:07,813
Oh, yeah.

1276
00:58:07,983 --> 00:58:08,333
Yeah.

1277
00:58:08,333 --> 00:58:09,483
Could you imagine being a kid?

1278
00:58:09,523 --> 00:58:12,943
They sleep in there from 0
to 18, he says, in the movie.

1279
00:58:12,943 --> 00:58:16,023
So, like, you're a kid in
there, and a teenager, and this

1280
00:58:16,023 --> 00:58:17,093
is what's all over the walls.

1281
00:58:17,833 --> 00:58:18,573
Would you be more

1282
00:58:18,873 --> 00:58:19,093
or

1283
00:58:19,093 --> 00:58:21,133
less sexualized if this
was your upbringing?

1284
00:58:21,283 --> 00:58:21,483
I mean,

1285
00:58:22,023 --> 00:58:24,863
less desensitized to it, but also
that comes into play later when

1286
00:58:24,863 --> 00:58:27,033
you're just having casual sex
out in the park with everybody.

1287
00:58:27,553 --> 00:58:28,133
I don't know.

1288
00:58:28,898 --> 00:58:33,823
So it's, it's dancing naked out
there, you know, maybe it does.

1289
00:58:34,483 --> 00:58:34,863
I don't know.

1290
00:58:34,973 --> 00:58:35,393
I don't know.

1291
00:58:36,373 --> 00:58:37,793
I don't live in one of those communities.

1292
00:58:37,873 --> 00:58:39,363
I don't know if I ever will.

1293
00:58:40,108 --> 00:58:42,118
after watching this, but you
mentioned right there, the

1294
00:58:42,118 --> 00:58:44,373
seasons and the, the zero to 18.

1295
00:58:45,168 --> 00:58:49,048
We get this info right
here from their home.

1296
00:58:49,558 --> 00:58:50,018
We get it.

1297
00:58:50,028 --> 00:58:53,448
He tells them, yeah, zero
that we look at it as seasons.

1298
00:58:53,448 --> 00:58:54,848
And that's what I was
talking about wicker, man.

1299
00:58:54,868 --> 00:58:56,238
And I'll confuse the two,

1300
00:58:57,298 --> 00:58:57,688
but

1301
00:58:59,038 --> 00:59:01,858
he says zero to 18 is like what spring.

1302
00:59:02,383 --> 00:59:11,733
And then 1836 is summer, 3654 is fall,
and then yeah, 5472, that's your winter.

1303
00:59:12,373 --> 00:59:14,533
They, right here, right
here, a key moment.

1304
00:59:15,233 --> 00:59:15,633
Key moment.

1305
00:59:16,873 --> 00:59:18,193
What happens at 72?

1306
00:59:18,753 --> 00:59:19,773
He looks at them.

1307
00:59:20,273 --> 00:59:21,033
Looks them up.

1308
00:59:22,413 --> 00:59:23,053
He tells them.

1309
00:59:23,193 --> 00:59:23,353
Right there.

1310
00:59:23,603 --> 00:59:24,063
Across

1311
00:59:24,063 --> 00:59:24,653
the neck,

1312
00:59:25,063 --> 00:59:27,143
He tells them right there
what's gonna happen.

1313
00:59:28,233 --> 00:59:29,673
They laugh it off like it's a

1314
00:59:29,723 --> 00:59:30,353
joke.

1315
00:59:31,233 --> 00:59:38,903
Now, it begins to come into clearer view
for Josh, right about here, because they

1316
00:59:38,903 --> 00:59:41,413
talk about the, what is it, the estupu?

1317
00:59:41,503 --> 00:59:42,633
How do they, how do they say this?

1318
00:59:43,418 --> 00:59:43,683
Uh,

1319
00:59:43,713 --> 00:59:45,663
Oh yeah, I wrote this down.

1320
00:59:45,733 --> 00:59:46,263
I have to go

1321
00:59:46,263 --> 00:59:46,578
back.

1322
00:59:46,973 --> 00:59:47,343
Um,

1323
00:59:47,913 --> 00:59:49,403
whatever, I can't even pronounce it.

1324
00:59:49,453 --> 00:59:51,083
And he, there you go.

1325
00:59:51,933 --> 00:59:59,513
testipa is a ritual of elderly,
Um, being let go from this life on.

1326
00:59:59,953 --> 01:00:00,543
purpose.

1327
01:00:00,983 --> 01:00:02,403
Um, and this was

1328
01:00:02,703 --> 01:00:03,103
in

1329
01:00:03,113 --> 01:00:04,653
the research of the film.

1330
01:00:04,673 --> 01:00:09,933
It is a, um, it is something
that has done in Norse mythology.

1331
01:00:10,503 --> 01:00:12,713
So this wasn't something they
made up for the film because they

1332
01:00:12,713 --> 01:00:16,563
wanted to make this commie and seem
really brutal, but this is an idea.

1333
01:00:17,033 --> 01:00:20,303
That exists in Scandinavian countries,
or at least in mythology it does.

1334
01:00:20,913 --> 01:00:23,963
We can't say for sure that this
is something that they practiced

1335
01:00:25,458 --> 01:00:29,148
necessarily, but I guess we can assume
that if it's written in the mythology,

1336
01:00:29,148 --> 01:00:32,528
and if, you know, from ancient times
that there was at least at some point,

1337
01:00:33,023 --> 01:00:33,523
Some truth.

1338
01:00:33,608 --> 01:00:34,428
truth to this.

1339
01:00:34,458 --> 01:00:34,743
Yeah.

1340
01:00:35,423 --> 01:00:36,863
Um, that's crazy, because

1341
01:00:38,993 --> 01:00:42,393
they don't necessarily know what this is.

1342
01:00:42,433 --> 01:00:44,123
He says it's going to happen tomorrow.

1343
01:00:44,153 --> 01:00:46,333
Now, Josh, you see all
of a sudden, he's like,

1344
01:00:48,728 --> 01:00:49,168
Yeah.

1345
01:00:49,513 --> 01:00:50,503
He's already figuring it

1346
01:00:50,823 --> 01:00:52,313
he's like a real, a real one?

1347
01:00:53,098 --> 01:00:56,318
And he knows and they're
like, is it scary?

1348
01:00:56,318 --> 01:00:56,838
And he's like,

1349
01:00:58,518 --> 01:01:02,978
now this foreshadows a lot because
you, we at home, if you, unless you

1350
01:01:02,978 --> 01:01:05,068
Google this or you already know, you
don't know what's happening either.

1351
01:01:05,498 --> 01:01:06,818
You don't know what this word is.

1352
01:01:06,818 --> 01:01:07,738
It's at the stupu.

1353
01:01:08,048 --> 01:01:10,178
I can't even pronounce it
much less know what it is.

1354
01:01:10,398 --> 01:01:12,828
They even say it's too hard to explain.

1355
01:01:12,958 --> 01:01:14,478
And

1356
01:01:15,473 --> 01:01:18,133
He's like, oh, yeah, you'll just
have to see it for yourself.

1357
01:01:18,238 --> 01:01:19,888
then, okay, so now let's get to that.

1358
01:01:19,898 --> 01:01:22,198
So, or do you have
something else on that note?

1359
01:01:22,973 --> 01:01:28,553
Well, um, of the seasons, 0 to
18, 18 to 36, 36 to 54, these

1360
01:01:28,553 --> 01:01:31,893
are, um, multiples of 9, or

1361
01:01:31,933 --> 01:01:32,163
um,

1362
01:01:32,173 --> 01:01:35,453
associated with the number 9, and that's
something to note that, um, because

1363
01:01:35,503 --> 01:01:40,013
Odin hung from the Tree of Life for
9 days to gain wisdom, the number 9

1364
01:01:40,013 --> 01:01:42,813
is really significant in, Mythology.

1365
01:01:42,958 --> 01:01:47,913
so she does say in the opening
ceremony, the, um, what is her name?

1366
01:01:48,033 --> 01:01:50,423
Siva, the kind of like
high priestess lady.

1367
01:01:51,723 --> 01:01:55,473
She says it's 90 years
between great feasts.

1368
01:01:55,953 --> 01:01:56,453
So this is.

1369
01:01:56,753 --> 01:01:56,933
this

1370
01:01:56,933 --> 01:01:58,853
is a great feast that
hasn't happened for 90

1371
01:01:58,863 --> 01:01:59,293
years.

1372
01:01:59,378 --> 01:02:00,128
be 90 per

1373
01:02:00,343 --> 01:02:00,603
they still

1374
01:02:00,903 --> 01:02:05,313
do their midsummer feast, but they're
saying something about this particular

1375
01:02:05,313 --> 01:02:11,553
one is only happens every 90 years
and then it lasts for nine days.

1376
01:02:11,853 --> 01:02:13,453
So the number nine shows up a lot

1377
01:02:14,348 --> 01:02:15,898
Cool, that's awesome to know too.

1378
01:02:16,018 --> 01:02:19,448
I mean, that's stuff that we'll be
looking out for on other rewatches.

1379
01:02:19,498 --> 01:02:21,108
Cause I will, I will rewatch.

1380
01:02:21,818 --> 01:02:22,748
We're not done with this yet.

1381
01:02:23,288 --> 01:02:29,298
We're, we're halfway through this
movie is all, if halfway, and we

1382
01:02:29,298 --> 01:02:30,558
get to the, we get to the dinner.

1383
01:02:30,568 --> 01:02:31,388
We get to the next day.

1384
01:02:34,283 --> 01:02:38,333
This is when you're really like, uh,
yeah, this is, this is going downhill.

1385
01:02:38,813 --> 01:02:44,283
like, you, you just feel like,
yeah, this is not normal from

1386
01:02:44,283 --> 01:02:46,283
the, the, the setup of the table.

1387
01:02:46,313 --> 01:02:47,873
It's in a, it's in the shape of a room.

1388
01:02:48,483 --> 01:02:48,933
Um,

1389
01:02:49,333 --> 01:02:49,663
it is.

1390
01:02:49,693 --> 01:02:51,413
I wrote down the rune, actually.

1391
01:02:51,713 --> 01:02:52,408
you, what, what?

1392
01:02:52,863 --> 01:02:54,143
Yes, I have a card here.

1393
01:02:54,268 --> 01:02:54,808
That's the room.

1394
01:02:54,838 --> 01:02:55,398
That's it right there.

1395
01:02:55,398 --> 01:02:56,688
It looks like a Jesus ish.

1396
01:02:58,113 --> 01:02:58,973
Yes, it does.

1397
01:02:58,983 --> 01:02:59,723
From the, yeah.

1398
01:02:59,833 --> 01:03:02,053
If it was tilted to the
side, it'd be a Jesus fish.

1399
01:03:02,473 --> 01:03:03,953
So, it's called Othilla.

1400
01:03:04,438 --> 01:03:04,598
This

1401
01:03:04,898 --> 01:03:05,428
particular

1402
01:03:05,428 --> 01:03:06,488
rune, in Nordic runes.

1403
01:03:06,518 --> 01:03:08,448
And I started noticing them everywhere.

1404
01:03:08,478 --> 01:03:11,448
I started to, like, pause the
film and look in the background.

1405
01:03:11,458 --> 01:03:14,938
There was, so I was looking them up
all through the movie, which is so fun.

1406
01:03:15,088 --> 01:03:15,998
and exciting to me.

1407
01:03:16,328 --> 01:03:18,918
Um, I'm studying the Nordic
runes, but I don't know them.

1408
01:03:18,958 --> 01:03:22,488
So this was actually kind of helpful
for me to kind of look at them.

1409
01:03:22,918 --> 01:03:26,738
Um, but this one, uh,
particularly means home.

1410
01:03:27,398 --> 01:03:32,573
So this is the, Um, they're all
sitting at a table built into this

1411
01:03:32,883 --> 01:03:33,513
shape,

1412
01:03:33,893 --> 01:03:39,663
but it means inheritance, property,
family, responsibilities, all of

1413
01:03:39,663 --> 01:03:41,613
this are associated with this rune.

1414
01:03:41,893 --> 01:03:44,153
So it fits perfectly.

1415
01:03:44,898 --> 01:03:47,618
Now, we still see these two old people.

1416
01:03:48,388 --> 01:03:49,008
And,

1417
01:03:50,918 --> 01:03:55,048
I just, like, okay, so, so,
watching this first time, not, you

1418
01:03:55,048 --> 01:03:58,008
know, I'm like, something crazy's
gonna happen, something fucked up.

1419
01:03:58,378 --> 01:04:04,678
Sure, I've seen all this before, but,
I'm still kinda like, is it though?

1420
01:04:04,718 --> 01:04:06,388
Because, are they like a king and queen?

1421
01:04:06,408 --> 01:04:08,138
Because they look, it was like royalty.

1422
01:04:08,688 --> 01:04:10,408
They put them in the
chairs, they pick them up.

1423
01:04:10,858 --> 01:04:11,378
I'm gonna start

1424
01:04:11,463 --> 01:04:11,843
Yeah.

1425
01:04:11,963 --> 01:04:15,443
They don't start eating until they
start until they pick up eating.

1426
01:04:15,443 --> 01:04:17,473
And then the rest of
the table gets to eat.

1427
01:04:17,503 --> 01:04:20,563
So that you're noticing like
they're in a very honored position.

1428
01:04:20,563 --> 01:04:20,943
Right.

1429
01:04:21,363 --> 01:04:23,033
And even when they stand up, that's it.

1430
01:04:23,063 --> 01:04:23,593
You're done.

1431
01:04:24,103 --> 01:04:26,663
The food, the dinner was over and
that's when they got the chairs.

1432
01:04:27,923 --> 01:04:30,603
Hey, where do I hire a crew to
start carrying me around in a

1433
01:04:30,603 --> 01:04:31,613
chair like that all the time?

1434
01:04:31,613 --> 01:04:34,063
Cause it didn't look too bad.

1435
01:04:35,273 --> 01:04:35,513
I

1436
01:04:36,053 --> 01:04:37,293
It looks very relaxed.

1437
01:04:37,593 --> 01:04:39,263
I love how this scene.

1438
01:04:40,273 --> 01:04:43,493
is so stretched out because
it could have been boom, boom,

1439
01:04:43,493 --> 01:04:45,703
boom, boom, boom, you know, done.

1440
01:04:47,503 --> 01:04:48,633
You get to watch him march.

1441
01:04:48,633 --> 01:04:54,143
You get to see the, the, the faces of
the Americans who were there and they're

1442
01:04:54,143 --> 01:04:56,133
like, I don't know what's about to happen.

1443
01:04:56,993 --> 01:04:59,823
You got the other people
that he met, Simon and his

1444
01:04:59,823 --> 01:05:01,463
girlfriend out, out in the crowd.

1445
01:05:02,643 --> 01:05:03,343
They walk up.

1446
01:05:04,073 --> 01:05:05,943
there's a few more outsiders there.

1447
01:05:06,378 --> 01:05:06,398
is

1448
01:05:07,488 --> 01:05:08,318
58, 58 minutes in.

1449
01:05:08,758 --> 01:05:11,298
58 minutes in, and this
scene lasts for a while.

1450
01:05:12,303 --> 01:05:13,043
Yeah.

1451
01:05:13,343 --> 01:05:13,633
Yeah.

1452
01:05:13,758 --> 01:05:18,348
get up, and they start
chanting, and throat singing,

1453
01:05:20,668 --> 01:05:23,408
from their own, you're like,
you kinda sit up, you're like,

1454
01:05:23,958 --> 01:05:25,288
what the fuck's happening?

1455
01:05:25,978 --> 01:05:29,338
They keep showing this cliff, you're
like, uh, what the fuck's happening?

1456
01:05:29,708 --> 01:05:32,468
They zoom out when they're
on that cliff, you see,

1457
01:05:35,008 --> 01:05:37,658
whoo, you see all them stones up there,
I guess those are runes, runestones.

1458
01:05:38,383 --> 01:05:40,103
Um, but

1459
01:05:40,233 --> 01:05:40,708
Yeah.

1460
01:05:40,983 --> 01:05:44,643
be like a very sacred ceremony, I imagine.

1461
01:05:44,893 --> 01:05:49,803
In fact, they, um, they, I
can't remember exactly how it

1462
01:05:49,901 --> 01:05:51,573
happens, but they wipe blood.

1463
01:05:51,868 --> 01:05:55,548
They have a rune on their tunic and

1464
01:05:55,848 --> 01:05:56,098
they

1465
01:05:56,108 --> 01:05:59,368
wipe it off with blood
on the stone somehow.

1466
01:05:59,438 --> 01:06:03,598
And then, um, yeah, so it's important
to note that because if you're seeing

1467
01:06:03,598 --> 01:06:06,438
this movie again, if you've already seen
it, now you're watching it again, pay

1468
01:06:06,438 --> 01:06:08,143
very close attention to those runes.

1469
01:06:09,113 --> 01:06:12,238
Those runes show up later on
Dany and Christian's tunics.

1470
01:06:13,058 --> 01:06:13,198
The

1471
01:06:13,198 --> 01:06:19,218
same ones that The couple who meet their
demise, if that's a kind way to say it.

1472
01:06:19,658 --> 01:06:21,198
I like your, the way you said it.

1473
01:06:22,048 --> 01:06:22,158
Meow.

1474
01:06:22,633 --> 01:06:23,483
Pretty much, you know.

1475
01:06:24,983 --> 01:06:29,993
Right here, I gotta say that when you
see the shot of the cliff and then

1476
01:06:29,993 --> 01:06:31,953
they walk out, you're like, oh man.

1477
01:06:32,593 --> 01:06:34,533
And then they start dancing,
you're like, oh okay, okay.

1478
01:06:35,723 --> 01:06:36,363
Uh uh.

1479
01:06:38,043 --> 01:06:38,578
Yeah.

1480
01:06:38,763 --> 01:06:39,803
there's no cutaways.

1481
01:06:40,613 --> 01:06:40,913
this,

1482
01:06:41,268 --> 01:06:41,918
No.

1483
01:06:42,378 --> 01:06:43,943
They show everything.

1484
01:06:44,243 --> 01:06:49,353
this is one of the, if not
the most disturbing scenes

1485
01:06:49,353 --> 01:06:52,233
you'll see in a movie, ever.

1486
01:06:52,233 --> 01:06:52,753
Cause

1487
01:06:52,788 --> 01:06:53,088
4.

1488
01:06:53,448 --> 01:06:53,888
Yeah.

1489
01:06:54,188 --> 01:06:54,348
And

1490
01:06:54,348 --> 01:06:58,768
it doesn't stop like it's it,
doesn't cut away it continues, and

1491
01:06:58,768 --> 01:07:04,468
then for several scenes later you
get to see the bodies in different.

1492
01:07:04,468 --> 01:07:04,968
I You know,

1493
01:07:04,968 --> 01:07:06,668
what they do with the
bodies later and stuff.

1494
01:07:06,668 --> 01:07:09,278
So they, they, I mean, it's
just, it's right there.

1495
01:07:10,008 --> 01:07:12,998
And I'm imagining like children
in the village are seeing this.

1496
01:07:13,068 --> 01:07:13,738
I mean,

1497
01:07:13,738 --> 01:07:14,358
yeah,

1498
01:07:14,828 --> 01:07:15,478
all happy.

1499
01:07:15,708 --> 01:07:16,478
They're all happy.

1500
01:07:16,508 --> 01:07:18,788
And then Simon and his girlfriend
are freaking out and then

1501
01:07:20,298 --> 01:07:24,158
Yeah, oh my gosh, he jumped,
he fell, he, you know, they're

1502
01:07:24,158 --> 01:07:26,108
freaking, no, it was by design.

1503
01:07:26,258 --> 01:07:28,498
And then you've got the head of
the, the, the, what's her name?

1504
01:07:28,498 --> 01:07:28,821
Siv?

1505
01:07:28,998 --> 01:07:29,388
Siv?

1506
01:07:29,698 --> 01:07:33,168
You've got her calming him down
saying, hey, no, no, this is okay.

1507
01:07:33,358 --> 01:07:34,138
This is okay.

1508
01:07:35,468 --> 01:07:36,138
it's like,

1509
01:07:37,198 --> 01:07:41,498
hang on, how did she just calm
me down as a viewer thinking, all

1510
01:07:41,498 --> 01:07:43,971
right, I just saw two people die.

1511
01:07:44,858 --> 01:07:46,488
Like literally looks, it's.

1512
01:07:47,393 --> 01:07:51,903
Even when a guy jumps and then
he doesn't die and they have to

1513
01:07:51,903 --> 01:07:53,903
bring the hammer in, I'm like,

1514
01:07:56,628 --> 01:07:59,918
I remember watching it the first
time being like, oh no, oh no.

1515
01:08:00,448 --> 01:08:03,608
I'm like cringing on the
couch next to my husband.

1516
01:08:03,608 --> 01:08:04,158
We're both like,

1517
01:08:04,963 --> 01:08:06,843
you know what this scene does?

1518
01:08:07,473 --> 01:08:11,563
Is make you forget that only less
than an hour earlier you saw a

1519
01:08:11,783 --> 01:08:15,293
woman with a hose in her mouth and
all them people dead in the bed.

1520
01:08:15,313 --> 01:08:17,993
Like that, you thought that was gonna
be the worst thing you ever saw.

1521
01:08:18,303 --> 01:08:18,983
Nuh uh.

1522
01:08:19,913 --> 01:08:20,623
This is awful.

1523
01:08:20,863 --> 01:08:22,773
This, this, this rattled me for a while.

1524
01:08:22,773 --> 01:08:23,083
Uh

1525
01:08:24,183 --> 01:08:24,453
No,

1526
01:08:27,033 --> 01:08:27,423
sorry.

1527
01:08:27,433 --> 01:08:27,443
I

1528
01:08:27,453 --> 01:08:30,033
Have a little, uh, a
little friend peeking in on

1529
01:08:30,033 --> 01:08:32,643
us to talk about the
horrific scene of this movie.

1530
01:08:32,943 --> 01:08:33,473
Man.

1531
01:08:33,663 --> 01:08:36,613
So, so after this, you're
like, all right, well.

1532
01:08:38,313 --> 01:08:41,843
I don't know what's gonna happen from now
on, but you know, it ain't gonna be good.

1533
01:08:41,973 --> 01:08:42,273
Like,

1534
01:08:42,853 --> 01:08:43,163
Yeah,

1535
01:08:43,163 --> 01:08:45,343
and you're right, they
have to calm us down.

1536
01:08:45,723 --> 01:08:49,363
Just like they have to calm Danny
and Simon and, you know, they have

1537
01:08:49,363 --> 01:08:54,931
to calm the foreign People down
because the movie is not over.

1538
01:08:55,728 --> 01:09:01,288
And I remember thinking, well, that
would be all I'd have to do to, all I'd

1539
01:09:01,288 --> 01:09:03,448
have to see to be like, I'm out of here.

1540
01:09:03,648 --> 01:09:07,888
Get me out of here as fast as you
can get me out of here, but they have

1541
01:09:07,888 --> 01:09:09,398
to somehow keep these characters.

1542
01:09:09,698 --> 01:09:12,908
So, you know, the, the director,
writer, the script, they, they

1543
01:09:12,908 --> 01:09:13,458
knew what they were doing.

1544
01:09:13,458 --> 01:09:14,728
Cause they're like, okay, we can't.

1545
01:09:14,978 --> 01:09:16,198
alienate the audience yet.

1546
01:09:16,868 --> 01:09:21,168
This is horrific, but we have to figure
out a way to keep everybody there.

1547
01:09:21,398 --> 01:09:25,548
And then having Christian and Josh
writing a thesis about this community

1548
01:09:25,888 --> 01:09:27,758
was another good way to, do that.

1549
01:09:27,768 --> 01:09:29,768
Cause it was like, well,
now they're interested.

1550
01:09:30,068 --> 01:09:32,738
Now they're like, we got to
learn more about these people.

1551
01:09:33,283 --> 01:09:36,063
when they set it up, like, no, no,
no, no, you can't have any access.

1552
01:09:36,063 --> 01:09:38,933
And then all of a sudden you get access.

1553
01:09:38,933 --> 01:09:41,473
Of course, that's going to be like, you're
going to be like, oh my God, I'm special.

1554
01:09:41,473 --> 01:09:41,933
I'm staying.

1555
01:09:41,933 --> 01:09:42,303
I'm

1556
01:09:42,511 --> 01:09:43,148
Yeah.

1557
01:09:43,148 --> 01:09:44,533
Yeah.

1558
01:09:44,643 --> 01:09:45,313
off at first.

1559
01:09:45,313 --> 01:09:49,513
And then they got the permission and
that's got to give you some sort of,

1560
01:09:50,433 --> 01:09:54,033
I don't want to say ego or something,
but yeah, you're not going anywhere.

1561
01:09:55,873 --> 01:09:56,783
start getting a little weird.

1562
01:09:56,953 --> 01:09:57,163
Cause

1563
01:09:58,398 --> 01:09:59,348
Simon left.

1564
01:10:00,708 --> 01:10:01,198
Simon left.

1565
01:10:02,908 --> 01:10:05,418
And you're like, wait a minute,
I don't know about this.

1566
01:10:07,168 --> 01:10:08,858
We see him later.

1567
01:10:10,803 --> 01:10:11,273
Yes.

1568
01:10:11,643 --> 01:10:12,133
Yeah.

1569
01:10:12,788 --> 01:10:13,268
Uh,

1570
01:10:13,493 --> 01:10:13,753
There's

1571
01:10:13,773 --> 01:10:16,313
some historical context to that as well.

1572
01:10:16,313 --> 01:10:19,533
When we get to, when we find out
what happened to Simon when he

1573
01:10:19,533 --> 01:10:25,793
goes missing and they're told he
left, he caught a train and Yeah.

1574
01:10:26,063 --> 01:10:29,803
but we do have a conversation
between Pele and Danny there

1575
01:10:30,103 --> 01:10:30,663
when she's

1576
01:10:30,963 --> 01:10:36,958
upset that, again, it's just
him being like, Hey, you know,

1577
01:10:37,038 --> 01:10:39,418
Christian, forgot your birthday.

1578
01:10:40,198 --> 01:10:40,908
Um,

1579
01:10:41,828 --> 01:10:42,048
Like,

1580
01:10:42,668 --> 01:10:48,618
You deserve, he tells her this, when
my parents died, this became my family.

1581
01:10:48,918 --> 01:10:49,138
This

1582
01:10:49,178 --> 01:10:50,098
is my family.

1583
01:10:50,378 --> 01:10:53,758
They, this is a community
that makes me feel held.

1584
01:10:54,268 --> 01:10:55,778
And you deserve that, Danny.

1585
01:10:55,778 --> 01:10:57,328
You deserve to feel held.

1586
01:10:58,008 --> 01:11:03,483
And I have some, uh,
theories about her growing

1587
01:11:03,483 --> 01:11:04,373
up in her family.

1588
01:11:04,373 --> 01:11:08,073
She probably didn't have, she
wasn't allowed to have space or

1589
01:11:08,073 --> 01:11:09,853
be held at all in her family.

1590
01:11:09,853 --> 01:11:13,393
If her sister had mental health
struggles, she says she was

1591
01:11:13,393 --> 01:11:15,543
bipolar, always in a crisis.

1592
01:11:16,143 --> 01:11:22,404
I mean, how does that, how does
that, um, meet Dani as a person

1593
01:11:22,443 --> 01:11:23,823
coming into this community.

1594
01:11:24,263 --> 01:11:24,493
Sure.

1595
01:11:24,573 --> 01:11:26,763
She just witnessed
something really horrific.

1596
01:11:26,853 --> 01:11:31,023
That's really disturbing, but
he's telling her like, this is a

1597
01:11:31,023 --> 01:11:32,963
place where you will feel held.

1598
01:11:32,963 --> 01:11:34,693
You're allowed to take up space.

1599
01:11:35,693 --> 01:11:37,703
And, um, that's really significant.

1600
01:11:37,893 --> 01:11:41,353
I think that's really significant to
point out that Dani's going to go through

1601
01:11:41,353 --> 01:11:45,543
a sort of transformation here where
she's like, I'm not allowed to speak.

1602
01:11:45,573 --> 01:11:46,913
I'm not allowed to need things.

1603
01:11:47,024 --> 01:11:48,113
I'm not allowed to.

1604
01:11:48,513 --> 01:11:51,173
You know, especially with the way
Christian's friends have treated

1605
01:11:51,231 --> 01:11:54,903
her thus far, but how she grew up
in her family possibly is like,

1606
01:11:54,983 --> 01:11:56,243
I'm not allowed to take up space.

1607
01:11:56,283 --> 01:11:57,443
I'm not allowed to have me.

1608
01:11:57,743 --> 01:11:58,113
Right.

1609
01:11:59,788 --> 01:12:00,028
So,

1610
01:12:00,273 --> 01:12:01,123
So that's important to

1611
01:12:01,438 --> 01:12:03,318
so she went from being

1612
01:12:05,398 --> 01:12:10,818
unwanted, isolated,
undrafted, to, to a team.

1613
01:12:10,878 --> 01:12:13,048
It was like, oh, these
people like me, they want me.

1614
01:12:14,578 --> 01:12:16,668
You find out how much they want her later.

1615
01:12:17,138 --> 01:12:19,568
Not, not long from here, but before
we get to that, there's, there's

1616
01:12:20,838 --> 01:12:21,958
The, the, the book?

1617
01:12:23,008 --> 01:12:25,288
The Ruby, Ruby Radder.

1618
01:12:25,288 --> 01:12:26,278
Ruby Radar?

1619
01:12:26,418 --> 01:12:27,018
I don't know.

1620
01:12:27,873 --> 01:12:28,273
Yeah,

1621
01:12:28,333 --> 01:12:28,703
I'm

1622
01:12:29,163 --> 01:12:30,263
your guess is as good as mine.

1623
01:12:31,478 --> 01:12:32,598
But this book's made up, right?

1624
01:12:32,598 --> 01:12:33,498
This is not a real book?

1625
01:12:33,793 --> 01:12:34,933
Yeah, yeah.

1626
01:12:35,233 --> 01:12:35,423
Uh,

1627
01:12:35,493 --> 01:12:40,353
ancient wisdom about
emotional states of mind and

1628
01:12:40,823 --> 01:12:40,993
the

1629
01:12:41,003 --> 01:12:42,693
elders translate it.

1630
01:12:43,153 --> 01:12:45,893
This is where you get into some
of the more inhumane practices.

1631
01:12:46,233 --> 01:12:50,183
Uh, not just the, um,
the cliff jumping ritual

1632
01:12:50,683 --> 01:12:50,943
for

1633
01:12:50,943 --> 01:12:56,768
those that meet 72, but, uh, Uh, the
purposeful inbreeding so that they have

1634
01:12:56,768 --> 01:13:03,378
an, uh, uh, oracle of an unclouded mind
to be able to, make these books for them.

1635
01:13:03,458 --> 01:13:08,148
And I'm, there's part of me that
goes, well, there is something to be

1636
01:13:08,148 --> 01:13:12,728
said for people who have an unclouded
mind, probably are more connected

1637
01:13:12,728 --> 01:13:14,938
to source and divine inspiration.

1638
01:13:15,368 --> 01:13:19,238
Um, there's part of me that agrees with
that, but purposely inbreeding people.

1639
01:13:20,668 --> 01:13:23,698
so that you can get
people who will be able to

1640
01:13:24,048 --> 01:13:24,638
do that.

1641
01:13:24,678 --> 01:13:25,088
Yeah.

1642
01:13:25,698 --> 01:13:26,118
Yeah.

1643
01:13:26,358 --> 01:13:26,558
Real

1644
01:13:26,588 --> 01:13:26,858
icky.

1645
01:13:27,938 --> 01:13:28,338
I'm like,

1646
01:13:28,488 --> 01:13:30,158
uh, yeah,

1647
01:13:30,158 --> 01:13:31,278
disabled people, basically.

1648
01:13:31,278 --> 01:13:35,488
They got the, the, Embrad Disabled
to be the oracles and paint the

1649
01:13:35,488 --> 01:13:37,118
pictures and write the runes.

1650
01:13:37,828 --> 01:13:41,798
And you see Josh and, I guess, what is he?

1651
01:13:44,048 --> 01:13:44,418
Keeper.

1652
01:13:44,758 --> 01:13:45,198
Something.

1653
01:13:45,728 --> 01:13:46,248
You see him.

1654
01:13:46,678 --> 01:13:47,988
They're going through the book together.

1655
01:13:47,988 --> 01:13:48,378
and it's

1656
01:13:50,018 --> 01:13:52,398
he's giving him access to learn
about it, but he's like, you

1657
01:13:52,398 --> 01:13:53,698
can't take pictures of it.

1658
01:13:53,898 --> 01:13:55,478
And you have to keep
our names out of your,

1659
01:13:55,778 --> 01:13:55,908
out

1660
01:13:55,908 --> 01:13:57,028
of your thesis, right?

1661
01:13:57,058 --> 01:13:58,318
Like, be respectful, dude.

1662
01:13:59,298 --> 01:14:04,548
I'm 99 percent sure that they knew
Josh was going to come back in there.

1663
01:14:05,208 --> 01:14:07,208
They knew that was going to happen
because they set it up for that.

1664
01:14:07,258 --> 01:14:08,248
They were tempting him.

1665
01:14:08,358 --> 01:14:09,378
They tempted him big time.

1666
01:14:09,378 --> 01:14:12,648
It was another one of those, it
was a different type of seduction.

1667
01:14:12,658 --> 01:14:18,018
He was looking for, to
be seduced by, info.

1668
01:14:18,248 --> 01:14:18,758
He wanted that.

1669
01:14:18,768 --> 01:14:19,938
He wanted to know what was in that book.

1670
01:14:21,368 --> 01:14:22,953
There's 19 versions of that book.

1671
01:14:24,038 --> 01:14:24,798
interesting.

1672
01:14:24,798 --> 01:14:25,078
Yeah.

1673
01:14:25,098 --> 01:14:26,998
Josh was seduced by information.

1674
01:14:27,628 --> 01:14:32,233
Um, Mark was, uh, seduced by idiocy.

1675
01:14:32,393 --> 01:14:32,713
I'm not

1676
01:14:32,863 --> 01:14:33,353
and whatever else.

1677
01:14:33,513 --> 01:14:34,783
A good time or whatever.

1678
01:14:34,988 --> 01:14:35,173
Yeah.

1679
01:14:35,453 --> 01:14:35,863
Right.

1680
01:14:35,903 --> 01:14:36,473
Oh yeah.

1681
01:14:36,623 --> 01:14:37,153
Good point.

1682
01:14:37,503 --> 01:14:39,973
And then you have Christian
who was seduced, literally.

1683
01:14:40,483 --> 01:14:44,443
um, to become a, uh, a foreign seed to

1684
01:14:46,563 --> 01:14:47,143
implant

1685
01:14:48,253 --> 01:14:49,193
into their community.

1686
01:14:49,373 --> 01:14:50,403
Danny was seduced.

1687
01:14:50,553 --> 01:14:52,373
to become a part of this community.

1688
01:14:52,453 --> 01:14:53,863
To belong a part of this community.

1689
01:14:55,743 --> 01:14:57,013
Action is a big part of this.

1690
01:14:57,233 --> 01:14:58,688
I mean, even when you have,

1691
01:14:59,953 --> 01:15:03,853
we'll get to it, but there's love rooms
that, that, that they slip under the bed.

1692
01:15:04,783 --> 01:15:05,643
Before that though,

1693
01:15:07,703 --> 01:15:09,213
the, the end of Mark.

1694
01:15:09,513 --> 01:15:11,173
We got Mark peeing on the tree.

1695
01:15:11,883 --> 01:15:17,073
This is when, in this movie, these
people, the Horgan people are

1696
01:15:18,363 --> 01:15:19,873
calm, polite.

1697
01:15:20,413 --> 01:15:20,923
Ninth.

1698
01:15:22,883 --> 01:15:24,263
He pisses on that tree.

1699
01:15:24,293 --> 01:15:27,283
The, the, uh, the, the rock volta tree.

1700
01:15:27,343 --> 01:15:28,243
The rock volta tree.

1701
01:15:28,243 --> 01:15:30,373
And, and he, he's on that.

1702
01:15:31,303 --> 01:15:35,283
And you finally see the,
the villagers freak out.

1703
01:15:36,318 --> 01:15:37,708
Yeah, for sure.

1704
01:15:37,708 --> 01:15:39,728
That one guy who was like.

1705
01:15:40,808 --> 01:15:44,168
Swearing at him in Swedish,
he's screaming at him.

1706
01:15:44,188 --> 01:15:45,758
He's like, what an idiot.

1707
01:15:45,788 --> 01:15:46,648
How could you do this?

1708
01:15:46,758 --> 01:15:50,998
You peed on our sacred tree, this
tree that represents our ancestors.

1709
01:15:50,998 --> 01:15:55,268
And you can see them, um, take the
ashes from the, uh, couple that

1710
01:15:56,018 --> 01:15:59,758
met their demise and they sprinkle
it onto the roots of the tree.

1711
01:16:00,128 --> 01:16:00,538
So

1712
01:16:00,553 --> 01:16:01,093
In the background.

1713
01:16:01,093 --> 01:16:01,183
You

1714
01:16:01,268 --> 01:16:01,758
the background

1715
01:16:02,053 --> 01:16:05,053
before, and then you all, and
then the camera pants, you can

1716
01:16:05,053 --> 01:16:08,203
actually see mark walk off towards
that tree before he does it.

1717
01:16:08,203 --> 01:16:11,493
And then they go, it's a
beautiful, beautifully shot.

1718
01:16:13,088 --> 01:16:13,568
Yeah.

1719
01:16:14,018 --> 01:16:16,298
It's almost like there's a,
uh, like a stage play going on.

1720
01:16:16,308 --> 01:16:22,198
They had to set that up nicely in the,
and it's that moment though, to me.

1721
01:16:23,718 --> 01:16:25,008
you're like, all right, well,

1722
01:16:26,798 --> 01:16:30,388
I've already seen these
people kill people happily.

1723
01:16:31,418 --> 01:16:32,828
What's going to happen
when they're pissed off?

1724
01:16:33,558 --> 01:16:35,158
Like, that's what my mind went to.

1725
01:16:35,168 --> 01:16:39,938
It's like, uh, yeah, this
ain't gonna go good for Mark.

1726
01:16:39,988 --> 01:16:40,678
And

1727
01:16:41,593 --> 01:16:43,573
Yeah, well, he's been branded the fool.

1728
01:16:44,293 --> 01:16:49,923
So we all know what happens to the fool
from the children's game in the beginning.

1729
01:16:50,703 --> 01:16:51,473
This is what he's going to

1730
01:16:51,473 --> 01:16:51,743
get.

1731
01:16:51,788 --> 01:16:55,108
gets, he gets, he does, he gets
his, he gets skinned, and someone

1732
01:16:55,108 --> 01:16:56,833
wears his skin as a mask later.

1733
01:16:58,368 --> 01:16:59,088
Not long after,

1734
01:16:59,103 --> 01:17:03,573
yeah, I knew on the second time I had to
pause it and like really pay attention.

1735
01:17:03,573 --> 01:17:09,793
Cause the first time I remember watching
it, I was like, wait, what just happened?

1736
01:17:09,993 --> 01:17:13,513
Like I, um, when Josh
gets caught trying to.

1737
01:17:14,193 --> 01:17:20,323
Take pictures of the, of their sacred
book and there's Mark that's not Mark.

1738
01:17:20,943 --> 01:17:22,163
Um, I was really confused.

1739
01:17:22,173 --> 01:17:24,133
The first time I saw it, I was
like, wait, what's happening?

1740
01:17:24,303 --> 01:17:24,693
Who is that?

1741
01:17:25,203 --> 01:17:25,833
Is that Mark?

1742
01:17:25,893 --> 01:17:30,538
Or is that somebody else at the same
time really clarified some things for me.

1743
01:17:30,538 --> 01:17:32,108
because I was like, Oh, I get it.

1744
01:17:32,298 --> 01:17:33,058
I see what's happening.

1745
01:17:34,988 --> 01:17:36,288
wore his skin like a mask.

1746
01:17:36,328 --> 01:17:37,198
Like, it was

1747
01:17:37,688 --> 01:17:38,148
Yes.

1748
01:17:38,448 --> 01:17:38,988
not pretty.

1749
01:17:39,148 --> 01:17:40,118
Not pretty at all.

1750
01:17:41,528 --> 01:17:43,653
You get to, you get to that dinner

1751
01:17:45,048 --> 01:17:46,328
after Mark pees on the tree.

1752
01:17:46,328 --> 01:17:47,728
You got, you got to another dinner.

1753
01:17:48,293 --> 01:17:51,993
And it just feels awful.

1754
01:17:52,023 --> 01:17:57,213
It feels, they put this
meat tart in front of them.

1755
01:17:59,373 --> 01:18:02,313
You already kind of sit, you're
like, wait a minute, Simon's missing.

1756
01:18:04,113 --> 01:18:05,513
And his fiancee,

1757
01:18:05,573 --> 01:18:06,043
Connie

1758
01:18:06,243 --> 01:18:06,253
I

1759
01:18:06,308 --> 01:18:07,028
Connie, you find a,

1760
01:18:07,053 --> 01:18:07,653
she goes missing.

1761
01:18:07,868 --> 01:18:09,948
you find a pube in the food, a hair

1762
01:18:10,323 --> 01:18:13,853
Yes, which was foreshadowed by the
tapestry earlier, If you watched

1763
01:18:13,903 --> 01:18:18,193
that tapestry and what happens, the
love rune under the bed and then

1764
01:18:18,193 --> 01:18:20,523
the pubic hair and the meat pie.

1765
01:18:20,543 --> 01:18:25,503
And it tells the whole story of how
they are trapping Christian, right?

1766
01:18:26,048 --> 01:18:27,828
and, and it's just,

1767
01:18:28,848 --> 01:18:32,208
it's all there for you to
see what's really happening

1768
01:18:32,538 --> 01:18:33,498
and what's going to happen.

1769
01:18:33,498 --> 01:18:35,928
It's the foreshadowing
is, is, is incredible.

1770
01:18:36,903 --> 01:18:37,293
Yeah.

1771
01:18:37,773 --> 01:18:38,963
Yeah, this is definitely a movie.

1772
01:18:38,963 --> 01:18:39,438
You gotta watch

1773
01:18:39,738 --> 01:18:42,098
you have to, and we're
building, we're actually.

1774
01:18:42,448 --> 01:18:44,638
If you think it's not, we are.

1775
01:18:44,658 --> 01:18:46,123
We're building to a climactic end,

1776
01:18:47,878 --> 01:18:49,228
if it hasn't been enough already.

1777
01:18:49,358 --> 01:18:53,798
Like, it's, this movie really
takes you on this, it's a, it's,

1778
01:18:53,928 --> 01:18:56,198
it's an emotional journey that

1779
01:18:58,328 --> 01:18:58,968
it hits you.

1780
01:18:59,038 --> 01:18:59,698
It sticks with you.

1781
01:18:59,698 --> 01:19:01,518
You stick, this movie sticks
with you after you watch it.

1782
01:19:02,868 --> 01:19:05,638
know, and I'm just remembering too,
there's a nightmare that Dani has while

1783
01:19:05,638 --> 01:19:08,178
she's there after Simon and Connie.

1784
01:19:08,868 --> 01:19:08,918
Is

1785
01:19:08,918 --> 01:19:09,218
it Connie?

1786
01:19:09,458 --> 01:19:10,068
I think it's Connie.

1787
01:19:10,498 --> 01:19:12,688
When they go missing, she has
this nightmare where they're

1788
01:19:12,688 --> 01:19:13,788
driving away without her.

1789
01:19:14,068 --> 01:19:14,408
Yeah.

1790
01:19:14,518 --> 01:19:14,888
Oh yeah.

1791
01:19:15,108 --> 01:19:15,278
They're

1792
01:19:15,278 --> 01:19:18,178
getting in a car and they're
driving away and she keeps having

1793
01:19:18,178 --> 01:19:20,878
visions of her family dead and,

1794
01:19:21,148 --> 01:19:21,538
uh,

1795
01:19:21,578 --> 01:19:23,138
you know, the trauma
that she's been through.

1796
01:19:23,158 --> 01:19:26,878
This isn't surprising, but it all
leads back to this idea that Dani

1797
01:19:26,878 --> 01:19:28,258
doesn't have a place where she belongs.

1798
01:19:28,558 --> 01:19:29,058
Yeah.

1799
01:19:29,893 --> 01:19:34,813
And then when she's called in to wear
a white tunic and be a part of the

1800
01:19:34,856 --> 01:19:41,033
festivities to dance at the Maypole
competition, um, she's hallucinating

1801
01:19:41,073 --> 01:19:47,053
these roots growing from her feet,
is very, very heavily symbolic

1802
01:19:47,063 --> 01:19:50,713
in planting roots and belonging.

1803
01:19:50,933 --> 01:19:57,213
So it's, you know, it's all tying back
to, like, where is Dani finding her place?

1804
01:19:57,803 --> 01:19:58,973
where she feels like she belongs.

1805
01:19:59,293 --> 01:19:59,883
Where she's being

1806
01:20:01,643 --> 01:20:03,893
Now, I didn't notice, I
didn't think about that.

1807
01:20:03,893 --> 01:20:06,633
Now, she's literally
growing roots right there.

1808
01:20:07,783 --> 01:20:12,433
This is after she, so she, so let's
just set this up first because

1809
01:20:12,693 --> 01:20:14,353
she drinks, they give her a drink,

1810
01:20:15,623 --> 01:20:18,113
a little shot of something, and I'm
guessing it's more of that mushroom

1811
01:20:18,443 --> 01:20:19,693
They all drink it together.

1812
01:20:19,723 --> 01:20:20,063
Yeah,

1813
01:20:20,593 --> 01:20:23,643
All the girls, all the maidens that
are participating in the dance.

1814
01:20:24,183 --> 01:20:26,803
and then they get up, and they
start tripping, I'm guessing it's

1815
01:20:26,933 --> 01:20:29,583
that mushroom tea or something
again, some sort of psychedelic.

1816
01:20:30,843 --> 01:20:35,703
Bunch of girls are in a pole, dancing
over and over and over, and The way

1817
01:20:35,703 --> 01:20:37,743
you win is to be the last one standing.

1818
01:20:38,613 --> 01:20:40,273
Yeah, it's like an endurance test.

1819
01:20:41,233 --> 01:20:41,533
while

1820
01:20:41,833 --> 01:20:43,993
hallucinating on whatever the tea was,

1821
01:20:44,403 --> 01:20:44,973
right?

1822
01:20:45,553 --> 01:20:48,173
It seemed to me the whole time that
Dani was just getting pulled along.

1823
01:20:48,573 --> 01:20:55,193
Like, I don't know if she really, um,
would've won, but it seemed like they

1824
01:20:55,193 --> 01:20:56,743
were just, like, pulling her along.

1825
01:20:56,743 --> 01:20:58,663
And they're like, just
keep going, just keep

1826
01:20:58,663 --> 01:20:59,043
going.

1827
01:21:00,183 --> 01:21:01,823
do you think they let her win?

1828
01:21:03,353 --> 01:21:04,633
I think it's possible.

1829
01:21:04,813 --> 01:21:10,513
I think that they were all along
kind of trying to recruit her, right?

1830
01:21:10,573 --> 01:21:12,693
Like, they picked her out.

1831
01:21:12,723 --> 01:21:12,963
And

1832
01:21:13,263 --> 01:21:13,463
by

1833
01:21:13,463 --> 01:21:20,758
the way, it is also important to note that
the costume designer, um, um, I didn't

1834
01:21:20,758 --> 01:21:24,938
write down her name, but the costume
designer in this movie, she purposely put

1835
01:21:24,958 --> 01:21:30,078
Dani in very heavy, baggy, ill fitting
clothes for the beginning of the movie.

1836
01:21:30,508 --> 01:21:36,008
So all up until she goes into wearing
the white tunic that they all wear.

1837
01:21:36,543 --> 01:21:44,863
When that fits her perfectly and looks
good on her and makes her feel like

1838
01:21:44,863 --> 01:21:47,253
she belongs, this was all on purpose.

1839
01:21:47,683 --> 01:21:49,763
So that's something to note too.

1840
01:21:50,093 --> 01:21:54,303
Andrea Flesch is the one who did the
costume design for, yeah, Andrea Flesch

1841
01:21:54,983 --> 01:21:59,093
did, um, Florence's costume design
for that and I did not notice that

1842
01:21:59,093 --> 01:22:03,553
but I will really look at that again
because I love when people put that much

1843
01:22:03,553 --> 01:22:05,233
detail, that much effort, that much work

1844
01:22:05,493 --> 01:22:05,723
Oh

1845
01:22:07,003 --> 01:22:09,433
making us have a conversation
like this about it.

1846
01:22:09,433 --> 01:22:11,153
Like it's, it's there,
it's there for a reason.

1847
01:22:11,713 --> 01:22:12,363
Brilliant.

1848
01:22:12,573 --> 01:22:13,603
They didn't accidentally do this.

1849
01:22:15,233 --> 01:22:17,713
We didn't even mention
that this is an A24 movie.

1850
01:22:19,473 --> 01:22:22,013
We should have known from the beginning,
if you're watching an A24 movie, you're

1851
01:22:22,013 --> 01:22:22,983
about to get something different.

1852
01:22:22,983 --> 01:22:24,043
You're about to get an experience.

1853
01:22:24,073 --> 01:22:25,168
I love that company.

1854
01:22:27,143 --> 01:22:29,343
You don't, you don't
get the happy endings.

1855
01:22:30,858 --> 01:22:31,228
Yeah,

1856
01:22:31,393 --> 01:22:32,273
They're not going to give it to you.

1857
01:22:32,303 --> 01:22:34,893
And some people don't like
that, but I love that.

1858
01:22:34,903 --> 01:22:40,483
And this movie right here, you
either see it one of two ways.

1859
01:22:40,493 --> 01:22:43,273
You either got a happy ending or
you didn't get a happy ending.

1860
01:22:44,623 --> 01:22:45,358
I got a happy ending.

1861
01:22:45,768 --> 01:22:45,878
you

1862
01:22:45,878 --> 01:22:48,428
know, happy ending for who, is what I

1863
01:22:49,488 --> 01:22:52,938
Now, Dani definitely got a happy
ending, and this is what goes back

1864
01:22:52,938 --> 01:22:58,088
to what I said the genre of the
movie could be a revenge, a breakup

1865
01:22:58,088 --> 01:23:02,738
movie, because the very last scene,
she gives you that little smile, and

1866
01:23:02,768 --> 01:23:03,198
Yeah.

1867
01:23:03,898 --> 01:23:04,278
you're like,

1868
01:23:04,408 --> 01:23:06,578
everyone's weeping and wailing.

1869
01:23:07,838 --> 01:23:10,078
It's, it's very dramatic.

1870
01:23:10,118 --> 01:23:14,868
And she, uh, you think she's
falling apart at first.

1871
01:23:14,938 --> 01:23:22,278
You think she's like, Reliving her trauma
or, you know, she's gonna Completely fall

1872
01:23:22,278 --> 01:23:27,988
apart, but she stands there
very still and smiles.

1873
01:23:29,218 --> 01:23:29,878
looking amazing.

1874
01:23:29,998 --> 01:23:32,988
time I watched it, I was like,
what is, what is she gonna do?

1875
01:23:33,458 --> 01:23:34,408
Is she gonna leave?

1876
01:23:34,468 --> 01:23:35,348
Is she gonna go home?

1877
01:23:35,428 --> 01:23:35,888
Is she gonna?

1878
01:23:37,243 --> 01:23:40,073
You know, I was like dying to
know the rest, and then the movie

1879
01:23:40,093 --> 01:23:42,548
ended, and I was like, what?!

1880
01:23:43,358 --> 01:23:47,418
you don't get those happy endings, but
you've got an open ended ending there.

1881
01:23:47,418 --> 01:23:48,698
I don't think she left that island.

1882
01:23:48,708 --> 01:23:49,468
There's no way.

1883
01:23:50,168 --> 01:23:51,278
There's no way she ever left.

1884
01:23:51,278 --> 01:23:52,258
I mean, she's at home now.

1885
01:23:52,708 --> 01:23:57,508
She went through the deepest, darkest
shit she can, and now she's a queen.

1886
01:23:58,743 --> 01:23:58,953
Yeah.

1887
01:23:58,968 --> 01:24:02,568
He got to sacrifice someone
who had been hurting her the

1888
01:24:02,568 --> 01:24:05,448
entire time, Piece of shit.

1889
01:24:05,578 --> 01:24:06,768
She saw him cheating on her.

1890
01:24:08,003 --> 01:24:08,393
Yep.

1891
01:24:08,588 --> 01:24:09,098
come, like,

1892
01:24:09,823 --> 01:24:10,243
And,

1893
01:24:10,283 --> 01:24:11,723
And, she had a choice.

1894
01:24:12,683 --> 01:24:17,573
She could have sacrificed, uh,
the villager that was chosen.

1895
01:24:17,983 --> 01:24:21,373
And they gave her, as May Queen, it
was her right to choose who would

1896
01:24:21,383 --> 01:24:24,003
be the last of the nine, by the

1897
01:24:24,003 --> 01:24:24,233
way.

1898
01:24:24,633 --> 01:24:25,423
The number nine.

1899
01:24:26,093 --> 01:24:29,323
Nine, um, sacrifices for the feast.

1900
01:24:29,343 --> 01:24:36,363
And, she, uh, They don't show her
choosing, but you see that Christian

1901
01:24:36,363 --> 01:24:37,853
is the one who gets prepared for the

1902
01:24:38,178 --> 01:24:41,048
I think all the way until you
see him, you're like, shit,

1903
01:24:41,068 --> 01:24:42,218
there's no way she's picking him.

1904
01:24:42,248 --> 01:24:44,608
There's no way she's gonna,
she's gonna pick him.

1905
01:24:44,608 --> 01:24:47,098
And then you're like, huh,
maybe she, maybe she should.

1906
01:24:47,658 --> 01:24:48,458
Maybe, like, after

1907
01:24:48,473 --> 01:24:48,813
Yeah,

1908
01:24:48,908 --> 01:24:51,728
you figure out the shitty person he's been

1909
01:24:51,793 --> 01:24:54,883
her final, final stand.

1910
01:24:55,713 --> 01:24:57,733
Like, there's no going
back after this, right?

1911
01:24:57,733 --> 01:25:02,988
Like, For her to be able to go, Yep, this
is my community, this is where I belong.

1912
01:25:03,688 --> 01:25:06,868
I wanted to point out, too,
on her tunic, her rune,

1913
01:25:07,268 --> 01:25:10,208
which was the old lady's
rune, is this one.

1914
01:25:11,188 --> 01:25:15,953
And it is, um, The rune, uh, to
the translation for it is wagon.

1915
01:25:15,973 --> 01:25:17,293
So it's about travel.

1916
01:25:18,323 --> 01:25:20,473
She does ride in a wagon, the way.

1917
01:25:21,113 --> 01:25:23,273
But the spiritual
meaning of it is destiny.

1918
01:25:23,956 --> 01:25:28,343
So it's almost like this is really fitting
for her, because this is like her destiny.

1919
01:25:28,343 --> 01:25:30,903
This has been her entire
story up until now.

1920
01:25:30,923 --> 01:25:34,839
Like, she's led to this
place, these people.

1921
01:25:35,433 --> 01:25:39,613
and the one on Christian's
tunic, which was on the man,

1922
01:25:40,023 --> 01:25:40,303
is,

1923
01:25:40,403 --> 01:25:43,693
One of them is this one, and it's Tywaz.

1924
01:25:43,733 --> 01:25:46,558
It's, uh, the translation is authority,

1925
01:25:46,858 --> 01:25:49,418
Justice,

1926
01:25:52,078 --> 01:25:56,098
righteousness is the,
uh, spiritual meaning.

1927
01:25:56,758 --> 01:26:00,178
I feel like this is like really
pointing to, I don't know if this

1928
01:26:00,178 --> 01:26:03,248
was all intentional, but I had
to go look this up just to see

1929
01:26:03,248 --> 01:26:04,818
like what connections are there.

1930
01:26:05,038 --> 01:26:08,658
But I feel like it's so fitting that
his tunic would have something about

1931
01:26:08,688 --> 01:26:11,108
justice and righteousness on it.

1932
01:26:11,678 --> 01:26:13,938
And authority, please.

1933
01:26:14,548 --> 01:26:14,998
Right?

1934
01:26:15,258 --> 01:26:18,898
Like, he's, yeah, he's a piece.

1935
01:26:18,938 --> 01:26:19,588
He's a piece.

1936
01:26:19,588 --> 01:26:20,788
That's all you can say.

1937
01:26:21,508 --> 01:26:26,548
And, I hate to say he got what's
coming to him, but they, I mean,

1938
01:26:26,708 --> 01:26:27,698
honestly, they kind of did.

1939
01:26:27,698 --> 01:26:30,558
Like, they, they, yeah, I mean.

1940
01:26:32,818 --> 01:26:36,708
It lets it open for interpretation
in that there's not anything that's

1941
01:26:36,788 --> 01:26:38,358
completely wrong or completely

1942
01:26:38,468 --> 01:26:38,848
right.

1943
01:26:39,228 --> 01:26:43,358
And like I said at the end of Wicker Man,
it's like, well, okay, obviously this is

1944
01:26:43,368 --> 01:26:49,658
very, inhumane to sacrifice a human being
and even the animals to, um, make sure

1945
01:26:49,658 --> 01:26:51,938
that their crops grow better next year.

1946
01:26:52,408 --> 01:26:55,388
Um, but then considering
all of the damage that

1947
01:26:55,588 --> 01:26:55,788
you know,

1948
01:26:56,218 --> 01:26:59,778
has been done in the Christian God's
name, I don't know, you could kind of,

1949
01:27:00,278 --> 01:27:02,098
you can kind of argue it either way.

1950
01:27:02,808 --> 01:27:04,968
the friend that pulls her into the dance

1951
01:27:05,248 --> 01:27:05,418
is

1952
01:27:05,418 --> 01:27:06,198
wearing this on her

1953
01:27:06,458 --> 01:27:06,878
Okay.

1954
01:27:07,598 --> 01:27:13,748
This is Canaz and it's translation
is the torch and it's, meaning is

1955
01:27:13,748 --> 01:27:16,268
enlightenment, knowledge, a new outlook.

1956
01:27:17,908 --> 01:27:18,428
Okay.

1957
01:27:19,148 --> 01:27:22,348
This is the one pulling her into
the dance and dancing with her

1958
01:27:22,438 --> 01:27:23,278
I love it.

1959
01:27:25,528 --> 01:27:26,248
Very cool.

1960
01:27:26,248 --> 01:27:27,998
Super

1961
01:27:28,203 --> 01:27:32,403
the director if that was intentional,
but, um, for me, it doesn't matter.

1962
01:27:32,403 --> 01:27:33,613
I think it's really cool anyway.

1963
01:27:34,678 --> 01:27:34,978
cool.

1964
01:27:35,018 --> 01:27:36,088
I'm glad that you caught that.

1965
01:27:36,908 --> 01:27:41,318
A lot of stuff that I didn't
and These two movies though

1966
01:27:43,518 --> 01:27:46,648
Like I said at the beginning one
was the beginning of this and

1967
01:27:46,648 --> 01:27:49,278
then one is basically to me was

1968
01:27:50,428 --> 01:27:51,128
A new version.

1969
01:27:51,158 --> 01:27:53,518
It was like let's let's
let's get some folk horror.

1970
01:27:53,528 --> 01:27:58,518
I know there's been a lot between
here between Liquor man and midsummer.

1971
01:27:58,518 --> 01:28:03,138
There's sure there's tons of folk horror
movies, but these two stand out to me.

1972
01:28:05,228 --> 01:28:06,168
What's your final thought on midsummer?

1973
01:28:07,968 --> 01:28:08,498
Um,

1974
01:28:10,648 --> 01:28:14,218
probably even more so than Wicker
Man, although I think it's a theme in

1975
01:28:14,218 --> 01:28:21,928
both, um, Midsommar having that, uh,
Lore of intense support and community.

1976
01:28:22,898 --> 01:28:24,418
That's really significant to

1977
01:28:24,418 --> 01:28:24,728
me.

1978
01:28:25,048 --> 01:28:28,878
I mean, whether you call it evil and
like all the things that they did evil,

1979
01:28:28,878 --> 01:28:34,683
this community obviously has, um, some
twisted ideas about death and murder.

1980
01:28:35,303 --> 01:28:41,533
Um, but the, the lore of the community
is pretty, look how strong that was.

1981
01:28:41,743 --> 01:28:46,443
Look how powerful that was for Dani to go
from, you know, the tragedy she came from,

1982
01:28:46,443 --> 01:28:49,193
the world we know, the culture we know.

1983
01:28:49,773 --> 01:28:54,328
And to go into that and be like,
actually, this is what I want.

1984
01:28:54,428 --> 01:29:03,868
And, um, when Christian is going
through the Ceremony or ritual of, uh,

1985
01:29:06,368 --> 01:29:07,108
what do you call it?

1986
01:29:07,168 --> 01:29:08,318
Uh, copulation.

1987
01:29:09,238 --> 01:29:10,408
When he's going through

1988
01:29:10,458 --> 01:29:12,848
impregnating the young
maiden that's lured him.

1989
01:29:12,848 --> 01:29:13,138
Right.

1990
01:29:13,438 --> 01:29:15,258
And he may have been
drugged during all that

1991
01:29:15,748 --> 01:29:16,258
probably.

1992
01:29:16,708 --> 01:29:21,808
But, uh, when he's going through
that, there's a room full of women.

1993
01:29:23,058 --> 01:29:26,308
Almost as if they're going through
the sexual experience as well.

1994
01:29:26,338 --> 01:29:28,078
All of them are going through it together.

1995
01:29:28,093 --> 01:29:32,728
These older women, all of them were
probably crone age, if you're kind

1996
01:29:32,728 --> 01:29:34,078
of looking at it in that sense.

1997
01:29:34,518 --> 01:29:35,988
They're mothers or crones.

1998
01:29:36,588 --> 01:29:39,048
and they're all going through it
with this maiden who's getting

1999
01:29:39,048 --> 01:29:42,548
impregnated, which I know he had a
moment where he was like, this is

2000
01:29:42,628 --> 01:29:42,948
weird.

2001
01:29:43,138 --> 01:29:43,778
What's going on?

2002
01:29:44,848 --> 01:29:48,998
But in the meantime, while that's
happening, Danny, who sees what he's

2003
01:29:49,018 --> 01:29:53,048
doing and is going through again,
another moment of extreme grief.

2004
01:29:54,253 --> 01:30:00,978
She goes into the other barn
and she's Wailing in grief,

2005
01:30:01,298 --> 01:30:02,878
which we've seen her do before,

2006
01:30:03,148 --> 01:30:03,278
in

2007
01:30:03,578 --> 01:30:08,338
the movie, She did that isolated
and alone, and now she's doing it

2008
01:30:08,338 --> 01:30:10,908
with a group of maidens around her.

2009
01:30:10,968 --> 01:30:12,318
They're all holding

2010
01:30:12,398 --> 01:30:14,408
her, and they're not just like,

2011
01:30:14,838 --> 01:30:15,318
going

2012
01:30:15,328 --> 01:30:15,608
through it.

2013
01:30:15,628 --> 01:30:17,528
They're not just like,
shush, shush, they're there.

2014
01:30:17,908 --> 01:30:19,968
They're wailing with her.

2015
01:30:20,443 --> 01:30:22,863
They join her in grief.

2016
01:30:23,283 --> 01:30:24,763
I think that's really significant.

2017
01:30:25,333 --> 01:30:28,203
That to me, is kind of the
epitome of the entire movie.

2018
01:30:28,213 --> 01:30:30,773
This is about a girl who
is looking for belonging.

2019
01:30:30,933 --> 01:30:32,523
She is looking to be held.

2020
01:30:32,833 --> 01:30:36,863
She's looking for a space where she takes
up space and is allowed to take up space.

2021
01:30:37,633 --> 01:30:43,223
And yeah, you can put it all with all
the horror and gross and, um, you know,

2022
01:30:43,263 --> 01:30:44,923
entertainment that goes along with it.

2023
01:30:44,923 --> 01:30:47,403
But to me, that is the
central theme of this movie.

2024
01:30:48,113 --> 01:30:48,773
I love that.

2025
01:30:49,363 --> 01:30:54,603
I think what I got to do now is since
you're the expert on this kind of stuff,

2026
01:30:55,403 --> 01:30:59,933
out of both of these movies, is this real?

2027
01:31:00,023 --> 01:31:01,713
Can this, is this happening somewhere?

2028
01:31:01,723 --> 01:31:02,833
Did this stuff happen?

2029
01:31:02,833 --> 01:31:05,593
Like what, what's the real context here?

2030
01:31:06,543 --> 01:31:08,003
Do you think this is kind of stuff?

2031
01:31:08,633 --> 01:31:11,783
Because if you go to Sweden
midsummer right now, it's not this.

2032
01:31:12,103 --> 01:31:16,613
And I know for a fact that the
Swedes laugh at this movie.

2033
01:31:17,448 --> 01:31:20,168
They, they, they look at this
as a black comedy, they think

2034
01:31:20,168 --> 01:31:22,208
it's, they, they, they really do

2035
01:31:22,264 --> 01:31:22,873
I'm sure.

2036
01:31:23,438 --> 01:31:27,948
because it's nothing like what
a Midsommar is, but is there

2037
01:31:27,948 --> 01:31:29,198
somewhere doing this kind of stuff?

2038
01:31:30,058 --> 01:31:30,958
Did they used to do this?

2039
01:31:31,243 --> 01:31:32,833
I wouldn't say anything's possible.

2040
01:31:32,863 --> 01:31:36,193
I mean, there are some ancient
traditions that have, like, upheld

2041
01:31:36,223 --> 01:31:40,188
and there may be, I mean, we,
we're not unfamiliar with cults

2042
01:31:40,833 --> 01:31:43,213
and cult risings everywhere on earth.

2043
01:31:43,333 --> 01:31:47,243
I mean, everywhere there are extremists,
there are fundamentalists, there are

2044
01:31:47,243 --> 01:31:52,993
people that take their beliefs too far
into actually causing harm to people.

2045
01:31:53,053 --> 01:31:56,968
So, um, my take was Yeah,
it's absolutely possible.

2046
01:31:56,968 --> 01:32:02,808
But my, my personal belief in, um,
Christianity and paganism is that.

2047
01:32:03,498 --> 01:32:08,238
Uh, I, what I would want people to take
away from this is that some of these

2048
01:32:08,238 --> 01:32:12,828
traditions, um, that you see in these
movies, like the hobby horse and the,

2049
01:32:12,828 --> 01:32:18,188
um, those, uh, mayday celebrations,
so they're celebrating mayday, um, in,

2050
01:32:19,038 --> 01:32:19,548
um,

2051
01:32:19,608 --> 01:32:20,568
in the Wickerman in.

2052
01:32:21,673 --> 01:32:25,973
And you see some of those
traditions still, still done.

2053
01:32:26,393 --> 01:32:30,023
Some of the, the meanings behind it have
changed and adapted and even Christianity

2054
01:32:30,023 --> 01:32:33,013
coming in and kind of making it
Christianized like we did with Christmas

2055
01:32:33,703 --> 01:32:37,523
and taking Yule and Yule solstice and
making it into a Christian holiday.

2056
01:32:38,023 --> 01:32:38,353
But.

2057
01:32:38,803 --> 01:32:39,063
Um,

2058
01:32:39,063 --> 01:32:43,693
The hobby horse in the parades that
they do at May Day, those still

2059
01:32:43,693 --> 01:32:45,303
exist in England in small towns.

2060
01:32:45,423 --> 01:32:50,563
And Morris dancing and, um, you know,
a lot of it is making a revival.

2061
01:32:50,753 --> 01:32:55,063
We're trying to go back to like,
well, what were these, uh, what were

2062
01:32:55,063 --> 01:32:56,703
these traditions that they used to do?

2063
01:32:56,763 --> 01:33:00,713
Um, you'll notice in Wicker Man,
they have, Um, These braided wheat

2064
01:33:00,723 --> 01:33:03,913
things that kind of hang in the
schoolhouse and they kind of, you

2065
01:33:03,913 --> 01:33:05,203
notice it throughout the movie.

2066
01:33:05,793 --> 01:33:11,283
Um, those are things that I and
my friends do at, um, we just did

2067
01:33:11,283 --> 01:33:15,833
it at LaMasse or Lunestad, uh,
our Wheel of the Year celebration.

2068
01:33:15,833 --> 01:33:21,293
We braided wheat into a sun and to honor
the wheat that is harvested right now.

2069
01:33:21,863 --> 01:33:23,203
So you, you see a lot of it.

2070
01:33:23,223 --> 01:33:25,603
And so if you're asking if these
movies are real, I would say.

2071
01:33:25,938 --> 01:33:28,328
Yes, there's a lot of
real to these movies.

2072
01:33:28,628 --> 01:33:31,548
Hopefully not the
horrific parts, but Yeah.

2073
01:33:31,548 --> 01:33:34,038
A lot of the traditions
and stuff are still very

2074
01:33:34,263 --> 01:33:35,263
Well, they make it feel real.

2075
01:33:35,263 --> 01:33:40,073
I mean, even in Wicker Man, the very
opening, you got that opening thing that

2076
01:33:40,073 --> 01:33:45,843
says, Thank you to the Lord Summerisle
for allowing us to, and I'm like,

2077
01:33:45,873 --> 01:33:47,623
you're like, wait, is this a true story?

2078
01:33:47,633 --> 01:33:48,633
Is this a documentary?

2079
01:33:48,633 --> 01:33:49,683
Like, what is this?

2080
01:33:50,478 --> 01:33:50,838
Right.

2081
01:33:51,068 --> 01:33:52,368
Well, I do find it very strange.

2082
01:33:52,368 --> 01:33:55,168
And there's one, one thing that,
um, in Wicker Man, I forgot to

2083
01:33:55,168 --> 01:33:58,388
mention is the the more English

2084
01:33:58,688 --> 01:34:02,928
hierarchal, Uh, role that
Lord Summerisle plays.

2085
01:34:02,948 --> 01:34:04,008
He lives in in like a

2086
01:34:04,133 --> 01:34:07,278
castle, almost like he has
been lorded by the king.

2087
01:34:07,588 --> 01:34:14,688
It's like, that's a little bit
contradictory to the pagan, um, kind of

2088
01:34:14,698 --> 01:34:16,278
way of life that they have on this island.

2089
01:34:16,278 --> 01:34:18,498
So I don't know where that was
supposed to play a part in this,

2090
01:34:18,498 --> 01:34:21,768
but it's like having him live in a
castle and be lord over everyone.

2091
01:34:23,128 --> 01:34:25,688
Kind of contradicts that idea,
but, you know, maybe they're

2092
01:34:25,688 --> 01:34:27,388
just kind of marrying those ideas

2093
01:34:27,388 --> 01:34:27,768
together.

2094
01:34:27,933 --> 01:34:30,343
Christopher Lee though, so we
didn't second guess anything.

2095
01:34:30,893 --> 01:34:31,973
I mean, he's a legend.

2096
01:34:33,628 --> 01:34:34,088
he's great.

2097
01:34:35,848 --> 01:34:36,688
Amazing time.

2098
01:34:38,498 --> 01:34:39,648
What else we got to say about this?

2099
01:34:39,648 --> 01:34:40,058
Anything?

2100
01:34:41,748 --> 01:34:43,568
I think we covered it really well.

2101
01:34:43,888 --> 01:34:47,288
We've got a lot going on
in these movies, so, whew,

2102
01:34:49,770 --> 01:34:52,650
Two bangers right out
of the gate, Courtney.

2103
01:34:52,670 --> 01:34:53,580
The Wicker Man.

2104
01:34:54,350 --> 01:34:54,600
Mm hmm.

2105
01:34:55,710 --> 01:34:58,080
Like, it's on my screen right now.

2106
01:34:58,300 --> 01:35:01,840
And it just, I just, there
was a trailer playing for it.

2107
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:05,080
Cause I had, I had my, I had
the IMDB picked up and all that.

2108
01:35:05,250 --> 01:35:07,750
And it was when he was in
the, the man and burning up.

2109
01:35:08,970 --> 01:35:09,490
Mm hmm.

2110
01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:10,450
Yeah.

2111
01:35:10,510 --> 01:35:12,310
The internets were listening to you.

2112
01:35:12,620 --> 01:35:17,790
In Midsommar, it's just as disturbing,
like, it's, there's nothing else

2113
01:35:17,790 --> 01:35:19,640
to say, we said it all, now,

2114
01:35:20,030 --> 01:35:21,890
We picked these movies apart pretty well.

2115
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:27,340
We've got, we went right down through
each and every infamous scene.

2116
01:35:28,030 --> 01:35:31,640
I had a lot of fun, I had a lot of
fun, first of all, and I can't wait

2117
01:35:31,650 --> 01:35:37,050
to see what else comes in this Witch
Movie Project series, and I really

2118
01:35:37,050 --> 01:35:42,840
can't wait for October 26th, at Novel
Daybreak by Crescent Communities.

2119
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:46,980
They are proud to present the
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2120
01:35:47,020 --> 01:35:48,970
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2121
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:53,000
This is where the people
at home can vote a movie.

2122
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:57,200
So today, for instance, you would vote
between the Wicker Man and Midsommar.

2123
01:35:58,150 --> 01:35:58,420
Yes.

2124
01:35:58,490 --> 01:35:59,120
do you like?

2125
01:35:59,300 --> 01:35:59,500
Where

2126
01:35:59,670 --> 01:35:59,900
Yeah,

2127
01:35:59,960 --> 01:36:01,490
Where are they voting at, Courtney?

2128
01:36:02,180 --> 01:36:04,910
you can contact us on
either of our social medias.

2129
01:36:04,940 --> 01:36:10,080
So if you come to mine, Prism
Healing, I have um, Instagram at Prism

2130
01:36:10,130 --> 01:36:15,560
underscore healing and on my Facebook,
Courtney Pearl's Prism Healing.

2131
01:36:15,850 --> 01:36:19,790
So you can direct message me your
vote or on Ride the Wave Media,

2132
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,680
That's right, at Ride the
Wave Media, across the board.

2133
01:36:23,690 --> 01:36:32,250
Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Twitter
slash X, I think is at RTW Podcasts and

2134
01:36:32,250 --> 01:36:33,440
then you've got the YouTube channel.

2135
01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:36,340
That's where you can see
our, our beautiful faces.

2136
01:36:36,340 --> 01:36:38,020
I don't know about ours.

2137
01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:40,770
At least one of us.

2138
01:36:40,870 --> 01:36:44,010
We ain't gonna, we won't pick
who, we won't pick who, but it's

2139
01:36:44,510 --> 01:36:44,740
the prettiest.

2140
01:36:44,740 --> 01:36:45,250
Oh

2141
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:49,010
Yeah, at Ride the Wave
Media podcast on YouTube.

2142
01:36:50,100 --> 01:36:54,660
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2143
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2144
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:00,060
yeah,

2145
01:37:00,060 --> 01:37:00,180
Stacey.

2146
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:02,820
so much for everything.

2147
01:37:03,210 --> 01:37:04,270
We'll see you guys next week.