here's how I know I'm supposed to be with her. She said, if you really want to try comedy, because I know how much you've always loved comedy, try it. Because of that wonderful woman believing in me, she didn't have to do that being pregnant with a third kid. She could have said no, but now comedy led me to having two television shows, a nationally syndicated radio show. It's afforded me a great life.

I put four kids through college with comedy, and now it's the only job that I do. I mean, when we look at Lilo and Stitch and the idea of family, and one of the famous quotes from there is ohana, which means family, and that no one gets left behind. There's a reason I love the movie Lilo and Stitch, because ohana, I do believe without the people around me who love me and support me, I wouldn't be successful. I wouldn't be the James that you see here sitting today. Money is great, fame is awesome, but when you touch someone's life doing something that you love, there is no better reward than that.

Welcome to Yes And Land, where we say yes to the reality of yesterday and today, and we say and to the possibility, growth, and imagination of tomorrow. Welcome back to our next episode of Yes And Land. Very excited today to talk to a guest that we've been very excited to talk to for a while. His name is James Yon. He is part of Theme Park Comedians, which has really, I'm gonna say exploded onto the scene.

James has been a comedian for a while, used to work at Disney, was a catering director at Disney, so he's very infused into the Disney World, and then he and his good, good friend Devin Siebold have created about seven months ago, right James? Seven months ago you guys started this thing? Seven months ago, absolutely. It's crazy how big and fast it grew. I still can't believe it, that people like two grown men just being silly.

And it's worked. And it's the best. It's the best. I really think there must be a clamoring in today's society for good, uplifting, clean humor, because you see people like Nate Bargatze, right, who's just exploded onto the scene. There's some other folks like John B.

Crist, who has done that as well. And there's just a number of other really clean comedians that are just bringing like wholesome stuff. And so to me, it's like, okay, it makes total sense that people are connecting with your content, because it is that way. And James is also known for, with his Theme Park Comedians, he's also known as one half of the divorce attorneys, Colton and Jamal. The, for the pass holders, I believe, is what they are.

So there's some great skits they do. So anybody listening, you gotta go and go find their Colton and Jamal videos for the pass holders. They got some great stuff there. And as a divorce attorney myself, I find it to be absolutely hilarious. You're an actual licensed divorce attorney.

We are, by the way. And one of my favorite things is when we're walking through the parks, because we're there so much, about four times a week, there'll be men who will come up to us with their wives and will complain that they're gonna enlist our services if their wives don't stop beating them at Buzz Lightyear. Like, that was one. Like, I think she is cheating. I'm like, you could be owed compensation, my friend.

So yeah, I love that actually people will reference our characters and stuff like that. Call me Colton, call Devon Jamal. It just makes us feel good that people like us doing all the silly things that we do and they appreciate it. So thank you everybody. Like my wife, I know I'm doing a good job in our videos when she'll be there with us and I'll do something in the video and she'll just look at us and go, what's wrong with you?

That's what I know we got gold. You're like, mission accomplished, thank you. That's exactly what I was going for, honey. Just looks at me like, why? I'm like, we don't know.

We don't know, but it's here. This is us, this is us. So James, what we like to do at the beginning of each episode is we kind of like to get a little bit of a background for our guests. So I referenced or I alluded to the fact that you were director of catering for Disney for a number of years. I think you worked for Disney for 15 years, I think.

Something to that effect. Where, take us all the way back though. Take us back to little James, right? When you're growing up. What was little James like?

What was growing up like? You're a native Floridian thing. Maybe when you were three, you moved to Florida, but. Well, first off, thank you. But I will say this, if you've ever seen me in a video, there's no such thing ever as a little James.

No matter how young I was, I was never described as little. But yeah, thank you very much. But no, I'm a native Floridian. I was born in Tallahassee and I moved to the Orlando area when I was about three years old. Here's the thing, the great thing about Disney for me, my early childhood.

And I'll walk you through kind of my whole experience with Disney and where it comes from. I was growing up in a single parent home. My mom was my everything. She was our hero. She played mom, she played dad, and she always did a great job.

Like we didn't have a lot of money, but we never felt poor, if that makes sense. Because my mom always made sure we had the things that we needed and also would provide so many different trips and entertainment and taking us places to just make us feel like, you know what, life's gonna be okay. I give my mom a lot of credit for that. And I give credit to some of the people that she met. She met some really good people who were in turn very good to me.

Like one of my friends, Mike, I had met him through my mom's friend, Ms. Clara, God rest her soul. And Bruce was his name, his father's name, and he actually worked at Disney. So as a young man, we could never really afford to go to Disney, but I went quite a bit because Bruce would take me and my friend, Mike, to Disney all the time. So I always was just amazed when I would go there at this wonderful place that was created to make little kids feel like they could do anything.

That's what Disney was for me. It was where dreams do come true. These magnificent rides and shows that make you feel like you're really in a different world somewhere. So I fell in love with Disney at a very early age. And I always said, and thank you, Bruce, for taking me so many years ago, one day I would work at Disney.

That was my little dream. I would tell myself one day I'm going to work here. Fast forward after high school, I graduated and I was a manager at a pizzeria, a very famous one that everyone knows, but I won't give them a free shout out. And the opportunity came where I could actually be a manager at Disney. And I immediately jumped at the chance to do it.

And I was a young man at the time, I think I was around 19. And I actually got the job and I worked my way up from being in the kitchen, doing my chefing to actually being a catering director. And before I knew it, I looked up, man, 15 years had gone by. And the reason I bring that all up, because I remember Bruce, that wonderful, kind man who would take me to Disney all the time. When I became a cast member and I started having kids about eight years later, I got to raise my kids going to Disney and they became Disney kids and they now are Disney adults as well.

So that's kind of how it started for me and my love of Disney and my appreciation of it and just showing my kids all the movies. I remember we'd all get together whenever a new Disney movie would drop and we would get in the old grand caravan and head down to the movie theater. And we still do that, even though my kids are older and we'll go see Disney movies together, which I think is just an amazing tradition that Disney's allowed me to have all the bonding that I got because of Disney. I wouldn't trade that for the world, man. It's fun to take your family to things like that, right?

And it's even as you start getting older and your kids are older, there's still a joy and nostalgia to doing that together. I always think there's something special about going to the movies too. For me, that'll never go away. Yeah, I can have movies at home and I've got a little nice home theater and it's great and all, but it's not the experience of going to the movies and the fresh popcorn and the drinks and being there with other people, experiencing it with you, right? Yes.

I would liken it to going to Disney. When you go to Disney, you know you're there with a bunch of like-minded people who all are there to have a good time. And movies are the same thing, that kind of experience where these group of people, we all saw the trailer, we all wanted to see this movie, we're all sitting down and we come together and we watch something that we know we can experience and enjoy together. So I definitely get that communion part of movies. I own that one pass where I can go to all the movies, me and my wife, and that is our jam.

We see every movie in the theater. We love it, man. Yeah, absolutely, love it. Yeah, that's the way to do it, man. That is absolutely the way to do it.

So let me take you back to when you were younger and you're growing up and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you were raised by a single mom, is that right? Single mom, God bless her. We still talk almost every day, even though I'm a 50-year-old man. So love you, mom. And so what was that experience like for you to be raised by a single mom, see the kind of hard work that she had to put into raising, to raising you and trying to provide a good life for you?

It changed my life, actually, and if things were different, if I had a two-parent household, I don't think I would be the same James, and allow me to tell you why. My mother from a very, when I was young, at a very young age, taught me some life lessons. She taught me that, you know, look, it's not ideal that I raise you guys by myself, but your father made a choice. And in life, life's not promised to ever be easy, so I got to actually understand that very early on in life, seeing my mother and seeing how hard she worked so she can move us to a good neighborhood, actually a great neighborhood, put us in good schools, and what she had to sacrifice for us to do that, it always taught me work ethic, seeing my mom work three jobs at one time to provide a good life for us. So learning that from my mom, it's helped me so much in my own progression as an adult, as a professional, me moving up to catering director was definitely a direct thing that happened because my mom instilled in me work ethic, being honest, integrity, treating people right.

So as I came in charge of other people, they would actually respect me because I respected them. I learned so many valuable lessons from my mother. I can't give her enough credit. She's the reason I am the way I am now. And she taught me self-reliance also because she was a single mom.

She said, look, you're gonna find a girl one day, James. You're gonna get married, but I don't want you ever to have to depend on someone else to take care of yourself. So my mom taught me how to cook at a very young age. I had to be eight years old standing on some kind of stool, watching her cook and helping her do things. And I loved cooking.

When she showed me how to do things, I'm like, cooking's like magic. I can take these things, these things, put it in a pot and voila, I have a whole dinner. So yeah, my mom at a very early age taught me how to cook and I've never lost that love of cooking. That's why I became a chef and that's why I became a catering director. And also my mom is very much a Virgo.

If you've ever lived or talked with a Virgo, those people are very serious about the things they're serious about. And my mom was very serious about a house being clean. So at a very young age, I learned to clean a house from top to bottom. I'm talking toilets to moving an oven out to clean my. So I never lost that.

And my wife will tell you, I did all the cooking for my kids growing up. We actually would sit down at a table together. No one would just go off into the room and I would cook and I still clean. And that's what I did. So all that, it was attributed to my mom and her being a single parent and having to teach me those lessons early on in life.

So with cooking, here's a question. What is your like, what is your best dish that you are most known for that like it's your go-to? Someone wants a good dish. You're like, I got it, here it is. Okay, that's hard because I had, okay.

Let me tell you why that's hard for me to tell you what the best thing I can cook is. When my son, Jack was around, I wanna say 14, he got diagnosed with celiac disease. Celiac, you can't digest wheat. You can't have certain, you just can't. So that means breads, certain spices.

So I had to learn as a chef that already had learned to cook, I had to learn to cook for someone who couldn't have wheat. So I pride myself on finding ways to cook food that my son could still enjoy and the whole family could eat and nobody feels like they're being robbed of taste or flavor or normal foods, quote unquote. So one of the things I make really good, one of the hard things about celiac is you can't use regular flour. And there are so many dishes, especially from the South where you use regular flour. Like my son, before he got diagnosed, loved pizza and chicken wings.

So I had to learn how to make my own gluten-free dough, make it, trial and error, wasn't great in the very beginning. I had to learn how to make dough to where it would have that same feel, that crispness on the bottom, but still be kind of doughy in the middle, you know what I mean? And I learned how to make the best fried chicken wings that are 100% gluten-free. I found a way to season them. I found a way to make that skin, that crispness you bite into, they're still juicy and moist inside.

So I would say I make the best fried chicken wings you'll ever have. And you would never be able to tell that it's not a regular flour fried chicken. Okay, so I'm booking a flight to Orlando and I'm coming to your house because I actually have to be gluten-free, James. I don't have celiacs, but I've got a pretty bad gluten intolerance. And man, I have not had a good chicken wing or chicken fingers that are gluten-free.

So I'm there, man. I'm coming to your house. Ryan, bro, when you get to 10, I promise you, man, I make you a vow. I will make you the best fried chicken wings that you'll enjoy, not feel sick. You'll just sit back and rub your belly and be happy.

I got you, bro. Oh man, because fried chicken is absolutely delicious. I mean, obviously in the South, it's huge, right? But like, I grew up eating KFC, man, and I love KFC. That stuff's delicious.

Like, I love it. So, okay, I'm here for it, man. I'm glad I asked that. I'm glad I asked that. That is challenging though, right?

When you have to make adjustments to what everybody else eats, I always feel guilty because I don't like being the person that makes everybody else have to do something different. And so I always feel bad saying I'm gluten-free somewhere, when I'm gonna be with other people and then feeling like they've got to accommodate. And my mother-in-law is very, very kind. We go to her house every other week for Sunday dinner, and she's always got something separate for me. Like if it's pasta or something, she's got the gluten-free pasta.

Or if she's got something that has rolls, she'll have some gluten-free rolls. Very, very kind, but also makes me feel horrible because I hate being the one that puts somebody out, you know? And so I'm just always like, oh, it's so hard. Like, I want everybody else to eat what they want to eat. It is hard.

And let me tell you, I have a very selfless family, my four children, my wife, because when we explained at a very young age to our kids what celiac disease was and what it meant and how we'd have to change the entire house, because not only can the person with celiac not eat those things, but they can't come into contact with them as well. So that means if we were eating toast and you put it in the toaster, my son could no longer use that toaster because cross-contamination. We had to educate the entire house, and not once did any of my kids make my son Jack feel less than or it was a bother. My kids jumped head first, like feet first, and said, yeah, we got you, Jack. We're going to change this house so you can be safe and comfortable.

So everyone changed how we ate and we learned so much about the disease and everybody was on board to do it. So I'm just telling you, man, life gets hard, but I believe family comes together and we do what's right to make that person feel good and make them feel welcome and make them feel whole, because it could be hard, because Jack would have to explain when he would go out with his friends to like the movies or a restaurant, all the things he couldn't eat and it was foreign and we never wanted Jack to feel that he was different. You know what I mean? Yes, he is different, but we didn't want him to feel like that made him less than. So everybody was on board in my house and I thank God for it every day because it could have been an entire mess, but everybody came together and here we are, man.

Well, I mean, and that's the perfect tie-in to Lilo and Stitch, right? I mean, when we look at Lilo and Stitch and the idea of family and one of the famous quotes from there is Ohana, which means family, and that no one gets left behind. No, exactly. And it sounds to me like it's exactly what your family did like, and that's a credit to your kids too for doing that because as a kid, that's hard, right? That's hard to be that selfless as a kid.

Like we all have this selfishness, this pridefulness, this ego inside of us and when we're younger, it's really strong, right? And so let's give credit to them as well as your whole family that they were like, hey, we're not leaving Jack behind. We're gonna embrace it. Not at all, man. And you bring a smile to my face because I hadn't thought of it in a long time because it's been so many years since Jack was first diagnosed, but man, I have a special family.

I really do and they're amazing and I'm very appreciative of them and I take stock into my life and say all the things that are good instead of waking up and saying, here's all the things that are wrong. And I've led a really blessed life. So thank you. I really feel good about that. Not everywhere can be the happiest place on earth.

And at RCG Law Group, my job outside of our podcast, we get that. Life throws curve balls, legal stuff, family stuff, the things you didn't see coming. That's what we're here for. If you're dealing with something and don't know where to turn, give RCG a call. Yeah, so you've got this great family.

You are doing this catering director stuff for Disney. How does the comedy thing end up coming to life? How do you end up as a standup comic, as a comedian doing content creation? Tell me about that journey. Okay, here's the crazy thing.

We started having kids fairly young. Like we had three kids in three years. We had a kid every year for three years straight and we thought we were done and I got a vasectomy. And the day I got my vasectomy, we found out she was already two weeks pregnant. So you talk about things are meant to be in the universe.

My son Isaiah, my youngest was meant to be here. Here's what was going on. I was young when we started having kids. So I would work a lot because I wanted my wife to be home with our children. I didn't want daycare to raise our kids.

I wanted someone to be there. So I worked day and night, but I've always loved comedy, right? And I was always the guy cracking jokes at Disney. And one of my friends, I'll never forget him, Jamie Ryan from New York. What's up, Jamie?

He said, James, you're so funny. You should do standup comedy. And I was like, Jamie, how do you just do standup comedy? And he introduced me to something called an open mic where amateurs would go to a location and a bunch of us would get on stage five minutes at a time and we would practice our little jokes. And at the time, five minutes seemed like forever.

Like, oh my God, how does anyone get up there and make jokes for five whole minutes? So he convinced me to write some material and he would come to my house, religiously, I gave him so much credit. He would come to my house and make me say those five minutes 10 times in a row every day until I was ready to go on stage. So by the time I hit that stage for the first time, I knew my routine from front to back. And I thought, I'm just gonna go up one time in my life.

I'm gonna have a great story to tell my kids one day that dad did standup. But that first time changed my life, man. I got on that stage, I told my jokes, people laughed and that feeling I got from people actually enjoying what I was doing, biggest rush I've ever had. I couldn't drink, there's no drug I could take to make me feel that same rush of people laughing at my jokes and I was hooked. But here's the bad part.

I started doing open mics where I was not making any money and I would have to go there and it's late night when you do these things, it's not just in the afternoon. So I was working, I'm not making this up. During the day, working at Disney, at night, working at Universal. Then I would go open mic after my second shift. So I told my wife, hey sweetie, I really wanna do standup comedy and I'm gonna go to this thing called an open mic and she's like, ooh, you're gonna go somewhere after your second job?

Well, how much does that pay? And I'm like, good news, it doesn't. I get paid with laughter. Maybe they give me a soda. Yes.

And here's the other part. My wife was pregnant with our third kid at the time when I started doing standup. So I told my wife, not only am I, you're not gonna see me during the day because I work and at night, you're not gonna see me for the rest of the night because I'm gonna be going to this open mic once a week. To my wife's credit, here's how I know I'm supposed to be with her. She said, if you really wanna try comedy because I know how much you've always loved comedy, try it.

Try it, just go and see if you love it. And it's so funny because years later, because of that wonderful woman believing in me and she didn't have to do that being pregnant with our third kid, she could have said no, but now comedy led me to having two television shows, a nationally syndicated radio show performing with some of the biggest names in comedy. It's afforded me a great life. I put four kids through college with comedy and now it's the only job that I do. So that's how I got started doing comedy, brother.

It was comedy in itself, me telling my wife, I'm gonna do comedy while you're pregnant with our third kid. Bye. Well, there's something great when you find something that brings you that level of excitement, and joy, and happiness. I've never done standup. I certainly don't have those skills.

In my younger years, before I went to law school, I did do some acting in local theater, right? Very low level, local theater. My favorite was comedies. And when I could be in a comedy and either deliver the line that was already prewritten in a way that gets the audience to laugh, or even better, when I could improv something based off of the feel of what was happening at the time and that got laughter, it was that feeling that you described, right? You're just like, oh my gosh, this is better than any drug.

Like, it's keeping me coming back. Like, there's just something about it that's just like bringing joy and laughter to people. Oh man, it is amazing. Brother, you totally get it. Can I tell you one of the best compliments I love when I do a comedy show?

When someone will come up to me after this show and they will say this, they'll say, thank you so much. I am going through something really, really hard right now. I have a loved one that just passed away. I have cancer that I'm fighting right now, or I'm getting a divorce, or I have a sick child in the hospital, and I needed a good laugh. And this is exactly what I needed.

Let me tell you, money is great. Fame is awesome. But when you touch someone's life doing something that you love, there is no better reward than that. The feeling I get knowing that laughter truly is, it's for a lot of people, it's medicine. It's therapy for a lot of folks, man.

And the fact I get to be involved in that is an amazing blessing and I don't take it for granted. I really don't. To me, what I hear when you're describing that is something that I talk to my firm about, I coach other business owners about, which is that when you're doing something, especially something that you're getting paid for, the goal is to bring more in value than you receive in payment. And that's not easy to do. But when you're describing that, it's exactly what you're doing.

Yet you now, thankfully, you're getting paid for these gigs you're doing, but the value that you're bringing to somebody going through something so hard and so difficult that helps them, it's gonna make me emotional, James, this is supposed to be a funny episode, but what that brings to somebody going through a death, going through a divorce, is it's just immeasurable of the impact that you can bring to somebody's life because it's so needed, right? That's why we as creatures, we need humor more in our lives because it brings us a little bit more of that joy and takes us through difficult times. I really do. And I believe you, wholeheartedly, you nailed it. And when I tell people, my only little soapbox message when I'm doing comedy at the very end, I tell people, I want you to look at what we got to do here tonight.

And they'll look at me like, what do you mean? I'm telling the audience, look around. There's everybody represented in this room from every walk of life, every culture is here. You know what we did tonight, people? Nobody cared who we voted for.

Nobody cared how much each of you make annually as a salary. All we cared about was having a good time as a group and we got to achieve that. I said, that feels kind of good, doesn't it? And they'll be like, yeah. I said, so don't forget that when you walk out of those doors and go back to real life, keep that joy in your heart and understand sometimes people aren't going to agree, but that does not mean that we have to hate or not be friends with them.

Like then they're like, oh, that's, yeah, that makes sense. I'm like, yes, something that simple does make sense, but sometimes we got to say it out loud so the rest of the world can get it. Yeah. Yeah. So related to that, let me ask you this.

So our podcast is called Yes And Land. Yes And is something pulled from improv comedy, right? Have you ever done improv comedy, James? A little bit, so I totally get that. So if someone asks you a question, you have to answer it.

So talk about that, yeah. Yeah, why is that like a core principle in improv comedy? Because it is, it's like one of the core principles of improv comedy is yes and. So maybe share with our audience from your perspective as an actual comedian, why that's important. Well, I believe it's like playing basketball.

The ball can't stop bouncing. You know what I mean? You have to keep the ball going. So that's what improv is to me. And it keeps you thinking and it keeps you in the moment as an entertainer.

Okay, this is happening. I'm gonna bring this scenario up. So I have to answer, okay. And I'm gonna add this to it. So it keeps your creativity going.

And that's what I got when I did a little bit of improv. Not a lot. There's a guy here in Orlando, his name is Ross Pageant. He's one of the leaders when it comes to improv. His mind, he's like an alien.

The way he's so creative and on his feet. That's what I got from improv when I did it. It kept me in the moment to where if something happens in the actual audience, I can react to it, respond, make a joke really quick and then intertwine back to my plan material. So I love improv. I'm not one of those comedians that hates on improv because there's been a lot of tension between our two camps, I think.

Sure, sure. Stand up comedian and guys that do improv. I know that it's a real skill. I know it's not easy. So I tip my hats to people that actually do it.

Like it's hard, very hard. And one of the things that I heard in you describing what you're talking to your audience about is honestly a yes and, because when we look at this principle of like, you've gotta keep the entertainment going. If you don't, if you don't say yes and build on the next thing, then you really shut it down. And I think that's what sometimes happens for people in discourse in life, right? Yes.

Instead of acknowledging somebody else's perspective, instead of acknowledging that people can have different opinions and then building on it, we tear it down. We use a yes, but, right? Where we're really trying to invalidate what's going on. And it does, it stops it. And when it stops it, then we stop having that sense of community.

And we let that divide ourselves instead of creating better connections and better relationships, even when we have different views and opinions at times. And so I love what we can learn from improv comedy on keeping things going, but with relationships in life. That's well put, very poignant, man. I totally agree with that. I think the best way to rent, cause I'm married 32 years and you're going to fight sometimes.

There's certain couples out there who say, we don't fight, those people are liars. Cause yes, yes you will fight. I agree, right? There's no way that somebody doesn't ever fight. No, we never fight.

I'm like, okay, all right, but you do lie. Okay, whatever. I always say the best way to win an argument most of the time is by listening. Cause you're going to learn more. You're going to understand more and maybe see the other side.

So I try to keep that in mind. Like I, I'll be honest with you. When like, if we were keeping track of arguments, like it was like actual boxing match, I am oh, an 88 with my wife. I don't, that woman is much smarter than me. And she's, she's good at what she does.

Shout out to her, man. Yeah. When you are, when you are having maybe a disagreement about something and are you, are you able to bring in humor in a way that, that brings levity as opposed to, you know, humor that brings in, you know, disparity or disparagement, right? Are you able to do that? Has that ever played a role in the way that you guys, sometimes if you have a little bit of disagreement, but you can bring in the levity, then suddenly it brings you guys together.

Yeah. Oh, that's my wife. Like people don't know this. People think I'm funny. Like I'm, I'm really good at standup comedy.

I will say that my wife's 10 times funnier than I am. Hands down. My wife's hilarious, my friend. She just doesn't want to ever perform. Like I would love to see her on stage.

Like she'll snap me out of it. Like if I'm being a grumpy bear and I'm grumpy about something silly, she'll snap me out of it. She'll, I'm like, oh, you're right. It's you, you're right. Again, you're, I'm 80, oh, and 89 now, but yeah.

My wife uses humor a lot. Like it snaps me out of it because I'm a comedian. I love humor. So she knows exactly after 32 years how to get me in the better mood. So yeah, she'll use it.

If we're arguing, I'm like, yeah, you're right. That was just, it doesn't even matter. That's so silly. I, yeah. So yeah.

Smart. Yeah, I love it. It definitely helps us. If we didn't have humor in my relationship, it would have never worked. My wife, that's how we deal with a lot of stuff.

When things happen, you have to laugh at it and just, all right, let's tackle it. Yes. And, and let's go. Yeah. Yeah.

Brilliant. Okay. So I got a couple of questions for you about, let's get our minds opening up here and let's see what you've got. Okay. So what is, because you're in the parks a lot, right?

Four times a week, I think you said. What is your biggest pet peeve of people in the parks? This is easy. We don't stop in a walkway. We don't abruptly come to a stop on a walkway when there's a thousand people literally walking behind you because accidents are going to happen.

I love, man, the excitement of seeing someone brand new in the parks, because you understand what they're feeling for that first time. But there's some etiquette, some rules to being in the theme park. If you're walking and you're on a main thoroughfare, you can't just stop because there's always going to be someone behind you. There just is when you go to the theme park. And if we can all walk the same speed, maybe, that would be great.

I'm just putting it out there. That would be helpful. That would be nice. Some of us have to have a ride to get to. Okay.

So let me throw this or that. Would you rather have, say, a big group of, say, 15 people all wearing matching shirts in front of you suddenly stop or the rope dropper, dad with a stroller behind you that keeps hitting you in the back of the heels as he's going, because he's trying to go faster and faster and you can't go any faster, you're stuck. Which would you rather have? Ooh, that's a great one. I'm going to say the dad hitting me with the stroller.

Here's why. I might need a little help sometimes getting there. Like help me along. It's a reminder, right? Can I get in the stroller with your kid?

We can just all- I'm going to go jump right in. I don't know what it's rated for, but adults are fine, right? I'm getting on this stroller. I meet the height. I meet the weight requirement, right?

Oh, I love it. It's going to take you so long to get- I've been there. The 15 people with the matching t-shirts, they're going to block everything. It's going to take a while to get around them. So I've been there.

I love your family reunion, people. Enjoy yourselves, but get out of the way. Go off to the side, not in the middle of Main Street. Okay, let's go. Everybody stops.

It's, oh my gosh, God bless you. So here's an anecdotal story. So when I was maybe, I was probably 10 years old. And back then, so I'm the son of a school teacher dad, taught elementary school. My mom was a lunch lady, but by golly, they saved and scrimped and made it happen so we could go to Disneyland just about every summer.

Disneyland's cold to us out here out West. And so I can remember walking in, I was so excited because we loved Disney. So I remember walking in, and when you first walk into Disneyland, I don't think you've ever been to Disneyland, right? Have you ever been to Disneyland? I have.

Oh, you have? Okay, so you know. Okay, so you first walk in, you walk underneath the little tunnel where the train's at, right? And you kind of go to that roundabout right before you go up Main Street. And so I'm there, I'm 10, and I am soaking it in.

And I didn't stop, all right? I'm still walking, and I'm soaking in the sounds and the smells and the view, and I'm totally lost in this magical world that Walda's created, right? Doing exactly what he tried to do, right? Where he's creating all of these experiences for you. And as I'm walking along, not paying attention at all, and one of those posts that you have all the ropes for for the parades was up.

And I ran right into that in the family jewels, James, and I was dead. Like it was the perfect height to take me out and take me out it did. And oh my goodness, I remember that so vividly like it was yesterday, because I was not gonna stop, right? I was on a pathway. You were.

Every man, when we hear a story like that, we instantly feel that pain. We go back to the time we felt that same thing. And I'm sorry brother, that is, you can literally hear like. That's exactly the sound it would have been, right? Yeah, if it was a movie, that's the sound they would have made, right?

When that part happens. Yes, oh man. Oh, it's perfect. So. What was the main street?

Here's my pet peeve. I don't know why it is, but there's my pet peeve. And it's not just the parks, it's pretty much in general. My pet peeve is when you go into a men's bathroom and you go to the urinal and somebody starts at the urinal. And in the 15 to 30 seconds throughout the urinal, they can't stay off their phone long enough that they've got to pull out their phone and look at their phone while they're at the urinal.

Like that's my pet peeve, I can't do it. I can't do it James. If you pull out a phone while you're using the bathroom, you're a serial killer. Okay, there is etiquette to using a cell phone when you're using the bathroom. The only time it is okay when you're doing the other thing, sitting down, that is the only time.

Yeah, I agree with that. Then you can pull the phone out. But the urinal, I'm like, I don't get it. I don't get it. We're so addicted to the phone that like 15 seconds, we can't be away for 15 seconds.

I'm just like, I can't do it. And it's an epidemic. It happens so frequently. I see it happen all the time. And now you just gave me a visual because we've used other people's phones before in a pinch.

And I put that same phone next to my face. It's on my face, right here. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my goodness.

Oh, wow. Okay, okay. That's essential. Here's the next question I got for you. Obviously, you must have done a lot of standup, right?

Over the years. Yes. What's like the nightmare gig that was just like the worst or the worst audience member you've ever encountered? Well, the worst comedy gig, because we talk about this a lot between us comedians, is the surprise show that you'll do. Let me tell you what it is.

Normally, it's a bar show, meaning you're gonna be doing standup comedy at a bar, a place that's not set up for comedy, but it's the only place that will let you start doing comedy in your early days of trying to be a standup comedian and you need to get to stage time. But when it's a surprise show, meaning all the people there are drinking, watching the game, all of a sudden the owner turns the TVs off and a nervous, pimply kid says, all right guys, it's time for comedy. And people are looking at you like it's a mob hit. They're going, no. They're like, no.

They're watching the game, they're drinking beer at the bar and you're gonna surprise them with a comedy show that they didn't sign up to be a part of, man. Those are the worst gigs, when the surprise comedy show that no one knew they were coming to. Yeah. What do you do in those moments and they don't wanna be there or they're wanting you to fail and you're trying to deliver these jokes and it's not landing at all. I mean, you had to have that.

You can be the best comedian in the world, you will still have times where jokes do not land. What is that experience like? Because I think that's what people are afraid of, right? That's why people don't wanna do stuff like that because what is that like? Because you're by yourself, there's nobody on stage with you.

There's no help, there's no friend you can call. There's no lifesaver coming, right? They're gonna throw to you and pull you into the boat. No, no, it's just you facing those people and they're not laughing. It's happened to the best of us.

You have to learn to bomb. That's what we call it when you're not doing well on stage. We have to learn to bomb while still smiling and being pleasant. That's something else, man. Imagine, it's like working customer service.

When you have the rudest person in front of you, you still have to smile, listen and nod. That's what it's like being a standup comedy. And that's part of the process of being a great one is learning in that adversity to not let people see you sweat because they can smell nervousness. They can smell fear in the audience. They know.

And if they smell a little bit, they're like a shark that smells blood. It's gonna be a bloodbath. So you have to learn to take it. You have to learn to be okay in that silence of them just staring at you and keep doing your act like they're all still laughing and get better at it. And at some point, if you do it and you keep at it, they'll start laughing when you do these shows, even when it's a surprise one.

And that's how you know you're a good comic. If you can do a surprise show and those angry people turn into an actual comedy audience, bro, you're on your way. You're gonna make it. How do you differentiate with certain jokes that you tell between what's just a dead audience or what's just a dead joke? This joke just is not gonna work.

I shouldn't have written it. It's out of my set next time. How do you differentiate between those? Well, it's kind of easy. If you do a joke that normally works all the time and you do it a gig and no one laughs, you're like, it's probably the audience.

But if you tell this joke everywhere, like five different shows and they're not laughing, it's probably the joke. You should stop telling that joke at some point when you tried it multiple times at multiple shows and people are just like, nah. That's the difference. That's how you know this ain't working. Okay, so you're gonna give it a shot.

Like if the joke bombs once, you're not gonna quit there. You're gonna keep going. No, no, that's the beauty of doing standup. You're gonna take that same bombing and that feeling of dread and you're gonna go do that some more. You're gonna keep doing it.

Give it some more, bring it on. And there's no safe word in comedy. You just keep going. There's no safe word. No one coming to bail you out.

Totally fair. Nope. Okay, so let me ask you maybe a question that might make you think a little bit. Okay. If you had to say create or sense, let's say this, send somebody to a ride in any of the Disney parks where you would send terrible guests, right?

That they were being terrible. So as a punishment, they have to go to that ride. What's the ride you're sending people to? Oh, this is very easy. This ride has been known to send people to a chiropractor.

Space Mountain and Magic Kingdom. Bro. Oh really? Oh yeah. It's a wonderful ride, but it's rough.

Bro, that's a ride, an attraction that needs a safe word. It's rough. You will come out. Actually, they now hire Disney, a chiropractor that's at the end of the ride now. The gift shop has a chiropractor office.

They'll line you up. That's right. They put you in that little chair they have that has the face thing like, here, we got these chairs lined up. Just get on that. We're gonna.

I got two lightning later on. That's the way I feel about Matterhorn at Disneyland. It's the rickettiest. I get that when it came out, it was unbelievable. Nothing like it ever.

The style of track with the tube had never been done before. I get all of that. I still hate it. Yes. I can't, my kids want to go on it, but I'm like always sitting like this the whole time.

Like, oh, just don't jerk me too much. Don't break my neck, please. Yeah. And the kids are like, dad, isn't this fun? You're like, yep, sure is.

It's great. It's so great. Glad you want to go on this. Glad I spent my lightning lane for this. Like, oh, good gravy.

Yeah, so if anybody was a horrible guest, I'm sending them to Space Mountain. They're gonna come off feeling different. Yeah, no doubt about it. Okay, so what is a Disney parks hot take you have? Parks, just in general?

Disney hot takes. Anything. Disney, Disney, Disney parks, Disney movies. Maybe it's just a hot take you got. Give us a hot take.

People are gonna kill me for this because I know this is a Disney movie. This is in tradition. I never liked eating on a trash can and using it as a table. I know. How dare you?

I know. But I came from the culinary world. That's, you know, there's a distinction that we make between trash and where it's kept and cleanliness of the food and whatnot. So just me putting my food down on a trash can never been my thing. I never wanted that.

I never thought that was the best idea. That was always like worst case scenario, right? When all the tables are taken out and you would have to do that. I wasn't looking to go to the trash can. I never wanted to practice being homeless.

I never wanted that. So I know. But haven't we all been there? I with you 100%, James, it's the worst and yet I have done it on multiple occasions. I know, I know.

And people, you know, you've heard this. People are losing their minds because the trash cans have changed in EPCOT. You can no longer just put your tray on it. It'll fall off. It's rounded at the top, the new trash can.

So people are going crazy right now. But they've done something along all the railings that they have in World Showcase. They started putting up these, not boards, panels where you could stand and eat like you used to at the trash can. But now it's an actual clean surface that doesn't have, you know, trash and disposables inside of it. That's a little bit, you know, more cleanly for you.

You know? So they're trying to make up for it. But yeah, I never liked eating on the Disney trash can. I'm sorry, people don't hate me. I just, you know.

You're gonna get so much hate for this. You're gonna get all these comments blasting you, James. This is gonna be wild. You better buckle up. Keep your hands and arms inside the vehicle because you better buckle up, my friend.

I'm gonna be sent on Space Mountain. I know, I get it. Oh, that's exactly right. Yeah, they're gonna be like, hey, you're gonna have to suffer the same punishment that you were trying to dole out everybody else, James. This is gonna happen.

This is reality. This is your new reality. Okay, so when you're out in the parks and you and Devin are filming, I think some of the stuff you guys do are just like riffing off the fly. And some of the things you guys have like are just like writing some jokes and stuff. So when you have, tell me this.

Who's the first person to break between you and Devin? It's funny because I think it's Devin. Because I'm so silly and animated. I'll do something, he'll just start laughing. One of the cool things about our videos is the genuine laugh at the end of our videos is us truly cracking up because we're like, we can't believe how silly we're being.

And we leave those in on purpose on a lot of our videos. Like I'll make Devin laugh. If I can make Devin break, that's my goal. He likes to make me scared to get on certain attractions. I like to see him break during an actual sketch.

If I can do that, I know I'm doing a good job on this sketch, man. Yeah, that's what I love about doing these. I love, oh, I made Devin laugh. Or when Devin's like, oh, we gotta stop. I knew I got him.

Cut, cut, cut, cut. We gotta refill. I can't do it, I can't do it. We were doing, we do these reviews of different toys and stuff that you can buy on property. We were at Animal Kingdom, and they had this little squishy blob you could buy.

And it was in the shape of a bow bun. And we had these little bow bun baskets that you would buy them in. So we were just reviewing it. And Devin's like, oh, this is a little bow bun basket. I'm like, hmm, funny thing.

That was my nickname in college. And he's like, I was like, why would? That's my favorite thing to make Devin break. You know what? I'm gonna take that one because my kids are now gonna know you as that because they love those bow bun things.

They are obsessed with them here. Oh my gosh. I don't know if it's to the same degree there where you're out in Florida, but here in Utah, it's like everybody wants them. You gotta go to Five Below store to get them, and you open them up to see what weird color it is. And so my kids have just way too many of them, and they love them.

So that's gonna be, I'm gonna be like, guess who I talked to today? Bow bun basket. Oh my gosh. That's funny. I did not know it was so popular out there.

All right. It's huge. It's huge. These kids these days, they love it. They love it.

Okay, so I'm gonna take you to a quick this or that. Well, maybe it won't be so quick. The rapid fire quick, but we're gonna do this or that for just a minute here if you're game for it. You ready for this or that? I'm ready.

Now I always tell people, if you've got some controversial opinions, James, I am not gonna be afraid to call you out on it. Okay, so you better be ready. Okay, I'm ready. Okay, so Stitch or Abu? Stitch.

Stitch. I'm with you. I'm with you. If you know me, wait a minute. Wait, sir.

Wait a second. Hold on. I'm about that life. Oh, there it is. You are about that life.

I'm telling you, man. You know when Stitch is my jam, I love Stitch, man. Yeah. That was a softball. You're like, yeah, boom.

Well, yeah. Thank you for asking me that. So people know I have a love for Stitch, man. I really do. Are you excited for the Stitch 2 live action?

They just did it in 3.3? Here's why I thought the live action Stitch worked because they didn't make the same movie frame by frame. They changed some things, made some stuff different. So it was a new experience. Here's my hot take for people when it comes to Disney movies.

If we're going to make a live action version five years later, it needs to be a new property because all we're doing is rewatching a CGI movie that's been turned into a CGI movie when we added a couple of live actors in it. I think it's just, I don't understand it, but hey, if it's your thing, but for me, my hot take, it needs to be a different movie if you want me to go support it. Yeah. So you're hoping that Stitch 2 is a little different. You're hoping that Tangled live action's a little different.

Hopefully it is. Yes, yes. Don't just give me the same movie frame by frame. I saw the movie. It was great.

I saw it. I don't need a new updated version of it. It's the same. Yeah. Okay, how about this one?

Stitch's plasma blaster or Aladdin's lamp? Oh, the plasma blaster. I'll tell you, these are too easy for you. If it's gonna be Stitch, it's too easy. Let me tell you why though, because if you shoot a plasma blaster at a theme park, people tend to move out of the way.

It's all I'm saying. I get exactly where I need to go. I'm just gonna fire this thing up. Bro, you've heard of a lightning lane, plasma gun lane. I'm telling you, bro.

Way more effective. I'm just, if Disney Imagineers are listening, just tell me. It's like on Princess Bride, right? Andre the Giant. Everybody move.

Right, and everybody just splits open. Plasma blaster. Yep, everybody's out the way. I love it. I love it.

There's no line. Yeah. Yeah, what do you know? Okay, how about this? A 45 minute standup set to a completely silent room or it's a small world on loop for three hours.

45 minutes. 45 minutes to dead silence. Just people looking at me. That's a lot of small world. Let me tell you something.

If you ever wrote small world twice in a row, I did that because we had two of the kids with us in one part of Magic Kingdom and my mother-in-law had the other two kids and I'd just gotten off with two of the kids and the other kids wanted to ride it and the mother-in-law's like, mm, my knees, I can't do this. So I had to go on with them. Yeah, woo. Two times in a row. That's a lot of small world.

That is a lot. I almost jumped in the water. I'm just saying. That is so. You're ready to bail.

Get me out of here. Pretty much. I'm like, I wish the world were bigger. I did the way too small. Way too small.

That's one of the rides that I, again, for Disney lovers, it's, they love it, they're nostalgia for it. Walden himself created it and I get all of that. Me too. The only way I like going on that ride, James, is if it's the middle of the day and it's super hot and I need a break and I'm gonna take a nap. Give me that 10 minute nap and it's fine.

I'll sleep, my kids will enjoy it. It's good. I've mastered the like taking a nap when you like fold your arms, kind of lay back and your head goes down. Oh yeah. I can do that.

I can do that. And then I can make it work. Other than that, I'm like, I'll pass. You guys go on that. I'll go eat a churro or something.

But could you imagine three hours of that? That's a lot. It would be torture. It'd be like Chinese water torture, right where they're dripping the water on your head. Oh my God, just.

Peek, peek, peek. It's all my mom. No, no. Okay, so speaking of Disney food, how about this? Eat only turkey legs for a week or only Disney corn dogs for a week?

I'm team corn dog, corn dog all day. Disney got great corn dogs. And I know there's a lot of you who love the turkey legs. I know my manatee friend out there, he loves those. I, this is gonna be a hot take.

And I tell people, I am not a fan of the Disney turkey leg. It's not my favorite at all. Out of all the wonderful delicious snacks and treats that they make, that's on the bottom of my list. I am not a turkey leg fan. I really am not.

I know, don't hate me people. I'm just being honest. I'm really, okay. I don't think. For me, it goes back to, it's actually not Disney's fault, but I remember it was, I graduated law school.

Some family and a friend came into town. We drove up to Dallas, because I went to law school at Baylor, which is in Waco. We drove up to Dallas and went to Six Flags. We got a Six Flags there. And it was super hot.

I had not hydrated well and I was super hungry. And so I got a turkey leg they had there. And then I was so sick the rest of the day. Like I couldn't hardly go on a ride. Like my head was pounding.

I was other things. And since then, like I can't even hardly see the turkey legs. I'm like, nope, pass. That's not gonna be for me. I'm not doing a turkey leg.

Yeah, I don't hate them. It's just not close to being my favorite. I just think they're okay. And I know there's gonna be people who hear this and they're going to lose their minds. I'm sorry.

I'm just being honest with you. I'd rather have a corn dog. Yeah. I mean, cause the corn dogs are really good too. They're like delicious.

A little bit of mustard, like corn dog and mustard. Oh man, I could, I could eat that right now. Oh yes, I'm gonna go get one. I'm gonna have the chef here on the ship make a corn dog. Yeah.

And what's, what's hard is, is I, because I like just in recent years have developed this gluten intolerance. Like I can take a gluten pill. I like tried a whole bunch of experimented with a whole bunch. And like, I found some that like don't make, won't make me as sick if I have some, but I have to really want it because like, I still not gonna feel great. Disney churro, Disney corn dog.

I will do it. Like give me that pill, give me that gluten pill. I'm gonna eat that corn dog. I'm gonna eat that churro. It's worth it.

I will totally do it. It's like Texas roadhouse rolls. I will do it. It's delicious. I'm making it happen.

Texas roadhouse rolls, sir. Right? I, you took me to a happy place. You see me closing my eyes like you. Yeah.

Bro. So good. God bless you. Like it's, it's embarrassing, James, how many rolls I'll eat when I go because we don't go that often and I'm gonna have to have a pill. So it's like, if I'm in, man, I'm all in.

Seriously, it's, I probably eat 10 to 14 rolls when I go. Like I, that's embarrassing. Like it's ridiculous, but I'm like, Brother. Bring in more. Bring in two, two baskets.

Don't give me one basket. Give me two baskets. Brother, that's impressive. You can put that many down. I would, I would stand up and give you a slow clap.

Like, okay. Yep. Yep. They're so good. They're so addicting.

It's just like, it's like a Pringles. Once you pop, you can't stop, you know? There you go. That's how my wife was giving birth. Yeah.

Just one right after the other. She's just like, yeah, have another one. Let's have another one. We thought of naming our kid Pringles the first one. Yeah.

You should have, right? You should have. Maybe that's the nickname. Okay. How about this one?

This, this, this also might lead to a hot take. Tiana's Bayou Adventure or Splash Mountain? Ooh, I see what you did there. Well, it's easy for James because remember how we talked about me, me, well, people seeing videos of me being terrified to get on Tower of Terror? Yes.

What makes you think it, I feel anything different about going down a steep waterfall in a log? So you can keep both of them. Okay. You're like, pass. Neither.

The answer is neither. Yeah, I, bro. You've never been on it? Mm-hmm. Once and I was small.

Like I took a, I think a 30 year layoff. Like it feels like, 20 years at least. I did it one time and I thought, oh, I'm never, oh my gosh, I'm never doing this again. This is horrible. So I believe, the reason I bring it up, we know we did this whole campaign for St.

Jude's, the good people there. If you donate a certain amount of money, our fans, I would get on Tower of Terror. And I thought it would take weeks or a month to get there because it was close to $5,000 was the goal. The next morning the money was there. It's the next morning.

So many of you wonderful people donated to St. Jude's. And I wanna believe it's because you really think it's a great cause, but a part of me believes you just wanted to see me cry. Because the money, we put the video out in the evening and the next morning people had donated a full amount and went over. I couldn't believe it.

So I actually had to get on Tower of Terror and I am terrified of that ride. I was having heart palpitations. I wrote a will to my wife, which was funny because she owns everything already. So it was just... Was that Colton and Jamal?

Was it Colton and Jamal that did that? They wrote that will for you? They were, yeah. That Colton is a handsome lawyer. But yeah, I actually got on the ride and it's the funniest thing.

I had worked it up in my head that it was gonna be the worst experience in my life writing that ride. I was so terrified. It was so ingrained in my memory how bad it would be to get on something that dropped. And I wrote it the first time and realized it wasn't bad. Not only was it not bad, and it nearly wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but I actually enjoyed it.

So when I got off the ride, all the cast members kind of knew who we were and they said, well, did you like it? And I said, actually I did. And they're like, you wanna ride it again? I'm like, okay. And I went on and again, I brought my wife the next day and we rode it together again.

And now it's become one of my favorite rides at Disney Hollywood Studios. And I just think about the fact that I let that fear over time get to me and it made me afraid to try something that I now love. And I think about that life. Do the things that scare you in life because they're probably things you're gonna really enjoy and you don't give yourself enough credit or you don't give yourself enough, you don't think that you can do things and we put a mental block in our head, you gotta stop that. That's the one thing I'm learning in my old age now is you can do the things that you thought you couldn't do if you just try to do them.

You can really do it. You can accomplish anything in life. I'm a firm believer in that now. If I can ride roller coasters, if I can get on Tower of Terror, there's nothing that I can't do if I put my mind to it. Yeah, and what I actually really love about this particular story and why there is a real life lesson here too is not only is it that we sometimes build it up too much, we tell ourselves this narrative of what it's gonna be that keeps us from doing it.

And also the value in the support that we have around us, right? And in the community stepping up to donate for obviously an amazing cause. I mean, who doesn't wanna donate to St. Jude's, right? It's incredible.

And also like that support of like, hey, we're also here to like support you trying this thing and Devin's there to support you trying this thing. And what power support can we have to us? And also what support we can have to other people when they're maybe keeping themselves held back, when they're afraid to do something, can we bring in some support to them? And honestly, I think a little bit of love and humor is a great way to do it, right? A great cause, humor, like to help people through difficult times, help them when they're holding themselves back when they shouldn't because they're capable and have a lot more than they think.

I think there's a lot of lessons in that, James. There's so many and yeah. And I gotta say, I got to be a part of something like St. Jude's and the wonderful cause that they are. And they were, it's funny because when I made the little proclamation that I would get on the ride if they donated, St.

Jude's actually commented and it was like, oh my gosh, we love this. Like, you know what I mean? They're like, this is a great way to bring awareness to what we do. So I got to overcome my fear. St.

Jude got a great donation. In fact, Devin became the number one donor in those brackets they were using for influencers. He was number one because of all the great support that they showed us. So it was a win-win, most definitely, man. I was very happy to be a part of it.

100%. Okay, so then I guess that begs the question of when are you gonna go on Guardians of the Galaxy in Disney California Adventure? Okay, that's a great question because we're actually planning on a trip to go to Disneyland, to go to the California. And when we do go there- Okay, I just lost you for a second. I just lost you for a second.

Give me that again. Okay, we actually made a plan. Me and Devin are going to Disneyland and I will be riding Guardians of the Galaxy over there. And of course, we're going to, it's coming up soon. I think the first of the year, we're gonna be going out there and it'll be a great trip.

So I think I'm bringing my son, Noah, who Noah's, all my kids love theme parks, but Noah has a special love of theme parks like his dad. And he wants to go with me. So I think that's gonna be our trip. Me, him and Devin are gonna go out there and I'm gonna ride Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm gonna film it, of course, because if I don't, it didn't really happen.

So you guys will see me get on that for the first. And I'm gonna be nervous because it's a new attraction. I'm always nervous no matter what new attraction I get on. So I'll be doing that. And I think the next thing we do to help out charity for theme park comedians, I think I'm gonna be riding Tiana's.

Oh my God. I was gonna ask exactly that thing, James. I was just gonna say, you've gotta do another fundraiser for Tiana's Bayou Adventure, you have to. That is brilliant. That is brilliant.

Oh gosh. I love how excited people get when I'm gonna be terrified. You gotta do this, James, it's gonna be great. But if it helps a good cause, I'm willing to do anything and be terrified, to be scared, and I'm scared of that ride. I really am.

I'm sure. It's worked up in my head, like Tower of Terror. So I think, I know that's gonna be the next one. So when you go out to Disneyland, are you gonna meet up with the magical millennial? Think her name's Megan?

I'm gonna try. Yes, I absolutely. And I definitely wanna meet my friend Biscuit. I wanna meet, yes, Jeremy. Oh yeah, he is so funny.

They're amazing. Bro, he, oh my gosh. His energy, his love. It just seems boundless. His energy doesn't stop.

I'm just like, this guy has so much energy. I love it. It's infectious. Watching his videos where he just walks for no reason, like I'm gonna see if I can walk 10 miles to Disney real quick and see if I can do it in an hour. Let's go!

You know what I'm saying? I'm like, what? I'm like, you can Uber. It'll be fun. It does exist.

Oh. It does. I think you're gonna love the Guardians ride. When DCA first opened up, Tower of Terror became my favorite ride. I absolutely loved it.

I loved the whole experience of it. I loved the throwback to Twilight Zone. It just made it so creepy and fun. And I was so nervous, James, when they said, we're gonna change it. I was like, oh, how can you do that to my beloved Tower of Terror?

It can't be possible. And then they did it. And now it's my favorite ride at DCA, the Guardians version. It's so fun. And I mean, it's just so lighthearted.

Obviously the Guardians are hilarious, right? But they've created it in such a way that just brings so much joy. I mean, I just go on it and I just laugh the whole time. Whereas before it's a little creepy, right? You're like scared, but it had the creepiness.

Now I just sit there and laugh. It's like this laughing the whole time with this amazing music playing and this hilarious story they've created. I think you're gonna love it. I am excited. I'm a comic book geek, so I love Guardians of the Galaxy of course.

So I'm looking forward to that, but I'm not gonna lie, I'm still going to be nervous. It's a new experience, man. But I'll do it for the people. I do it for you guys. Do it for the people.

I'll do it for the people. The people, yes. Hey, one more thing before we move on. There's a show I've gotten really into lately called The Wisdom of Walt. And I don't usually do this, but it's earned it.

If our show is your kind of thing, I'll bet you'll enjoy that one too. So go give it a listen. All right, let's go to a little rapid fire. You ready for this? I think I am.

Okay, favorite Disney movie? Lilo and Stitch. Easy one, right? Favorite Disney song. Ooh, ooh, ooh.

Ooh. I'm just, in my head, there's so many. I love them. Oh my gosh. You can have colors of the wind.

Oh, it's a lovely song. Really is. Yeah, that's a great one. That's a really good choice. I haven't gotten that one much, and I really, I like that song too.

It's great. It brings you back, yeah. Favorite Disney princess. Snow White. Snow White?

Okay, you're going to throw back all the way to the beginning. I remember, it's my very first cartoon crush. I remember watching that movie going, I think I like the brunettes. I get your blondes and all that, but yeah, I like something about this one. Bro, for me, that was Jasmine.

I remember, I was like, Jasmine, girl. Gotcha, yeah. Because I'm like, can't. I'm old. So yeah, that was Snow White was for me, but Jasmine's a good one.

Jasmine's a good one. Because she comes with a very different aesthetic than what we were used to as far as princesses. So I definitely understand that. I thought she was the Beast's Beef, man. Yeah.

Favorite Disney hero. Wow. 626. Okay, let's go. Let's go.

I love that. Favorite ride in all of Disney. Guardians of the Galaxy. Guardians of the Galaxy. The one that came out.

Cosmic Rewind. Cosmic Rewind. It's so innovative. Everything that happened on that ride was new as far as experiencing for me. And I've been on all kinds of attractions.

Just the storyline, great, funny, love the Guardians. Just the pre-show is amazing. Just the whole experience of being teleported. You feel like you're actually going somewhere new. And when you get on the actual ride, the fact you're like, yeah, we do launches when it comes to roller coasters, but let's do it backwards.

Come on. Let's have your car spinning the whole time. Right? Like, it's this way, going down the track. Yeah.

Let's have huge LED screens where you're watching an actual movie as you're riding this thrill ride going by at 60 miles per hour. What an amazing attraction, man. There's nothing like it. It's a thrill every single time. Yeah.

Yeah. It is absolutely phenomenal. That's why for me in Disney World anyways, EPCOT's gotta be my favorite land because I love that ride. I love Ratatouille. I love the Frozen ride.

Like it's just... Yes, Test Track is fantastic. Oh man. It's just like bangers after bangers after bangers there. It's just like, I enjoy so many of the things at EPCOT.

EPCOT's so great. Mission space. Love it. Yeah. You're a big fan.

Especially when you get stuck on it, right? Oh my gosh. I break everything. Everything I get on at EPCOT, I break. And I'm sorry, guys.

I don't know why. I broke Ratatouille twice in one week. I broke Spaceship Earth. I don't know. I'm sorry.

They just see you coming like, shut it down. Shut it down. Shut it down number one. And they're like, yes. I'm gonna go break the Beverly machine for everybody.

That's what I'm gonna do. Use my powers for good. Did you say Beverly machine? Yes, I'm gonna go break it. You know, the famous Beverly drink.

The terrible drink? Yes, I'm gonna go break that. Go break that. Like nobody wants that. How do they still have that there?

Like it's terrible. Well, I think it's a rite of passage. I think certain women will marry a man if he actually drinks it. Like he has to drink the cup of Beverly to be able to pass and to marry me. And there's guys who are like, you know what?

Let's just be friends. Not worth it. I'm out. Yeah, yeah, I'm out. Yeah.

How about for you, your favorite land to visit or your park to visit. What's your favorite park of all the parks? EPCOT, EPCOT. Simple, EPCOT. And there's so much to do.

So much great food. The festivals, the drinks. It's EPCOT, man. Nothing comes close to me. Yeah, I love it.

Favorite Disney park treat. Ooh, the ice cream sandwich at Animal Kingdom. Okay, it's a cookie, it's square, ice cream and a brownie on the bottom. Ooh. Bro.

That sounds pretty good. Bro, I tell you, it's good. Followed closely by Dole Whip, because come on, come on, that's good. It's hard for me to not go to the Tiki Room and not get Dole Whip. Like if I'm gonna be going to the Tiki Room, which that is a nostalgia one I actually like, now I want a Dole Whip.

I wanna be eating that Dole Whip while I'm waiting for the show to start. I wanna like, yes, give me some Dole Whip. Love it. Yes, sir. What's your favorite Disney food?

So non-dessert, what's your favorite Disney food? Ooh, that's hard. I love all of it. I know you're a culinary guy, since when was it gonna be challenging? They had at Goose Little Shack, during the festival, they had one of the best things I've ever eaten in my life and it was so simply done.

It was a slider, but it was a blackened catfish slider with a garlic aioli on it. It was, me and Devin would go back numerous times. It was one of those special things that you can't get all the time. So it just made it that special. Oh my gosh, it was so good.

Oh my God, it was so good. And I will say one other thing, EPCOT's so great during the festivals, during Food and Wine, they have this Irish nachos. They have these kettle chips, they fry fresh. They have shredded corned beef and they have a beer white cheese that goes over it. It is one of the best things I've ever eaten in my life.

Oh my God, I'm tearing up right now. Oh my God, it's so good. You gotta try it, you gotta come for wine. Yeah, the Food and Wine Festival at DCA isn't quite what it is there, but they do some good stuff. And I remember a couple of years ago, the Food and Wine Festival there, they had a Snickers macaron shaped like Mickey.

It was so, because I love macarons in general. I eat those up, they're so good. But then they had a Snickers and it was bigger because it was a Mickey head, like, oh man. I still dream about that. One of the things that Disney does better than any theme park I've ever been at is the food.

They're just great at making good food, man. Oh my God. Yeah, and it didn't used to be that way because look, when we were growing up, it was mediocre, but they have really made concerted effort to take that to the next level. And I think they have knocked it out of the park. I think it's terrific.

They really have. And being that my son, Jack, has celiac, what I love, every Disney park, every restaurant has gluten-free options. The chef will come out and personally make the food for you to make sure there's no cross-contamination, that you're going to be safe. And I love that Disney takes that extra step where a lot of theme parks are very far behind that. So shout out to Disney as always.

Yeah, they definitely do a great job. Okay, how about this then? Favorite Disney restaurant. Ooh, Yak and Yeti. Yak and Yeti at Animal Kingdom.

If you've never been, and I'm not, this is not an advertiser, they do not pay Devon and I. It is one of the best restaurants I've ever been to. Period, not at a theme park, period. It is that good. We went in there and the owner said, James, you guys have to try something.

And I said, what? He goes, we make a very special appetizer. It's a ahi tuna nacho. I said, what? They take mounds and mounds of ahi tuna.

And I'm not just saying that. I mean, mounds of it, cut it into beautiful squares. And instead of using tortilla chips, they use wonton chips that they fry fresh. They put it over a bed of shredded lettuce, the wontons, then all the ahi tuna, shredded lettuce, a sweet ginger sauce, a sour cream. Oh my, well not, it's so good that they make shirts that says ahi tuna nachos.

If you know, you know. And I know, people, let me tell you, that was just the appetizer. Then it's an Asian blend place, an Asian fusion. They have, oh my gosh, so much, they have foe, they have all these different rice dishes with fresh chicken and the flavors are amazing. Yak and Yeti is absolutely one of the best restaurants.

And then I ate their, oh my God, butter cake for dessert. I literally drove to Tallahassee and slapped my mama when I ate it. It's that good. So Yak and Yeti, Animal Kingdom, my favorite. It used to be.

You better believe I write that down. Write it down. And I used to say, Victoria and Albers, that's the fine dining restaurant that wins awards. It's a beautiful seven course meal, but that Yak and Yeti, the value for what you pay and what you get, the experience, the ambiance of looking out into Animal Kingdom while you eat, Yak and Yeti, hands down. Yeah, sounds awesome.

That's definitely gonna be on my list. I'm gonna make sure I do that because I actually really like Animal Kingdom. I think it's terrific. Gross, amazing. Okay, how about, this is the last rapid fire question.

Name a Disney villain who would actually be great as a standup comedian. Ursula. Yup. Ursula. She'd be so good.

She'd be so good. Ursula is wonderful. I think she's just a misunderstood villain. I don't think Ursula did anything wrong, by the way. This is my hot take.

She made a contract with a young lady and she didn't live up to it. Where I come from in the legal field, that's breach of contract. Yeah, Colton and Jamal got that one locked in. That is a breach of contract. Now we're gonna execute on what the consequences were for breaching that contract.

Yeah, I'm just gonna, hey, what we have here, your honor, is a failure to communicate. Literally, she couldn't talk. I'm just saying. Ursula is so in your face, so herself and okay with being that. I think that would shine through as a standup comic.

I think she would be absolutely hilarious. She would be someone's, she looks like everybody's favorite auntie on stage. You know what I mean? Wouldn't she be funny? And she delivers stuff with a smile too.

She's like, hey, it's okay you don't got your voice. You got your looks, you got your pretty face and don't underestimate the power of body language. You're like, girl, all right, she's not messing around. She delivers some truths with a smile. I like it, Ursula.

She got material. She's already ready, man. I'm telling you, Ursula would absolutely kill it as a standup, man. She would slay. Well, James, it's been such a pleasure visiting with you and learning about your background, the things that you're doing to bring so much joy and happiness to people.

I love everything that you're about. I love the reasons that you do it. I love the content that you guys have that just has me rolling. And I just hope you guys continue to do it and kill it. So as we end every episode, what we like to do is throw it to our guests for some actionable takeaways.

And so, James, based off of kind of the overall things we talked about or just advice you have for people, maybe to have a little bit more humor in their life, advice about family and not leaving people behind or trying things that they're maybe scared of. What would three actionable takeaways be that you could give to people that they could put into action in their life this week? Fear is the enemy of joy. When we work up in our head to be afraid of something and where it just keeps us from even trying, that is gonna rob you of so many opportunities and so much happiness in your life if you let it. So fear is the enemy of joy.

So try things. Don't let fear get the best of you. Try it. Because at least you tried something and it didn't work, but you never know unless you try it. And another thing would be for me, family is everything.

There's a reason I love the movie Lilo and Stitch because Ohana, I do believe without my family, without the people around me who love me and support me, I wouldn't be successful. I wouldn't be the James that you see here sitting today. So family is one of those things that's very important to me. And the last thing is leave the world a little bit better than when you found it. I would say that.

Do some good in this world and that can be anything. So many different facets. I think what I do is I try to spread joy. I really do in the world. I think I touch people's lives.

I think I try to give them something to look forward to. I think laughter is medicine. So that would be my third thing is just leave the world a little bit better than how you found it. Yeah, I love it. Those are terrific, James.

Again, what a pleasure to have you on. Looking forward to seeing some videos of you riding Guardians of the Galaxy in Disney California Adventure. Can't wait to see that. Can't wait to see whatever other fundraisers you do. And as you do, we want to share those out too.

Anything that we can do or our community can do to promote and contribute to the wonderful charitable things that you guys are doing, bringing so much good to things that need it, right? St. Jude's is one of those places. So really appreciate your time, man. No, no, thank you first off for inviting me.

I get excited and bewildered every time somebody wants me to be anywhere. So thank you. Really, man, it means a lot to me, man. I appreciate it. As you leave this conversation, remember that yes, the past can hurt and you can either run from it or you can learn from it.

So here's to learning and finding joy in the journey. See you real soon.