Golden Girls: Why This Show Changed Everything for Women
Golden Girls: Why This Show Changed Everything for Women
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Four women over 50 in a Miami kitchen. No husbands. No tragic backstories. No apologies. On paper in 1985, this premise should have failed. Instead, The Golden Girls became a radical act.
Blane and Coco break down why this show, now 40 years old, still hits harder than most television being made today. Dorothy's razor-sharp wit and refusal to shrink. Blanche's unapologetic sexuality and desire, framed not as recklessness but as living. Rose's quiet strength and emotional intuition. Sophia's elder wisdom delivered like switchblades.
What made The Golden Girls revolutionary wasn't the laugh track. It was the willingness to center women's interior lives, their grief, their insecurity, their lust, their ambition, without treating age as a punchline or a tragedy. The show tackled homelessness, AIDS, racism, and immigration in the 1980s on network television. It showed women reinventing themselves after divorce and loss. It let them be wrong, learn, and change.
The real frequency here: your value doesn't expire. Wisdom isn't a consolation prize for youth. It's the actual flex.
Coco shares how The Golden Girls became her anchor during a two-month hospital stay while pregnant with twins. The chosen family at that kitchen table, eating cheesecake at 2 a.m., solving the world's problems, modeled something we're still hungry for: friendship as the deepest commitment.
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Happy birthday to Coco. Here we are. It's Parallel Frequencies. It's Coco's birthday. Happy birthday, Coco.
Thank you. Got the tiara on. Thank you. Got the goddess shirt on. Is that what that says?
Yeah. Goddess vibes only. Not the I'm a freak shirt. You don't have that one yet. Not yet.
Not yet. That's coming. That's coming. And the Freqs and goblins and goddess, they're all in the energy for me. You can be a goblin or a goddess at any point, any point in time.
So Freqs and goblins. Can you be both at the same time? Is that what you're saying? Why not? I think mythology supports that theory.
I think there are plenty of goddesses that are also goblins. I can see that. I can see that. So what are you, what does a goblin get for their birthday? What if you...
That would be like the PJs and the slippers and the face masks and the stain at home. And that would be the goblin era. And then goddess would be the frilly dresses and the going all out. Okay. You need both.
You can't have one without the other. That's my theory. I get that. I get that. I could see how that would be an issue.
I think I've got what we could chip together and get you the best birthday present that I could find for you, but it's going to cost a little bit of money. Let me show you what I found and see what you think because the rhino, the butt birth rhino from Ace Ventura, when nature calls is up for auction. Okay. Would you be interested in this? It's four to $8,000 of what they're saying, but...
Oh, I'm missing it all now. Having my birthday party and this would be my grand entrance into the moment, right? The dance floor or whatever they bring out the rhino. And then here comes Courtney just out into the world. Here I am.
I'm all for this. I just don't have $8,000, but I think the Freqs could probably, if the Freqs bought enough, I'm a freak shirts. We could probably get this butt rhino. Yeah. Do we have a buy me a coffee button?
Because if we don't, we need one. If you can't afford a rhino and you want to just treat me to a coffee, I will take that. We do. ridethewave.media. That's our big main website.
That's the umbrella. You can find everything under and there's a little buy me a coffee in the bottom left corner, I believe. Yeah. And then we'll give you a shout right? You buy me a coffee, I'll shout you out on the show.
Why not? If they buy us this butt rhino from Ace Ventura, we'll do more than that. I mean, we're going to have the rebirth of Coco. Yeah. What else could we want?
Then we have to plan a whole event. We got to get everybody out. Astrology wise, I'm a Pisces, right? This is my birthday. But I'm also a Leo, my moon sign.
And so there's something about being a Leo that you just kind of want that attention. You want that. It's all about me a little bit. And I have not been in that space for very high. That is not like me, but I'm starting to own it.
That audacity, New Year's, right? My word for this year, audacity. I'm going to have the audacity to pretend like I deserve that kind of attention. So why not? You want to, you want to talk about the audacity.
Today's show for Whistful Wednesday. These women had audacity. They were the epitome of audacity. They were the beginners of probably some of this audacity. And we're talking about the The The Golden Girls.
I love this show. I think this is one of the greatest shows of all time. And on paper, on paper, this show should not have worked. You got four old ladies in the house and that's it. Yeah.
You think about that. Like, of what most people think of as, for lack of a better term, I'm just going to say, sexually attractive. Yeah. Yeah. But hey, Betty White, I'm going to tell you right now, Betty White was sexually attracted to the day she died.
And she was what? 99. So, right. Oh yeah. Yeah.
You said it. Not me right there. You said it. I was going to say that, but you said that. So let's make sure.
But in Hollywood and TV and what we know about it is most male executives making decisions on shows are going to be like, nobody's going to want to see these past their prime women. Yeah. And that's not true. That's what I'm saying. So for this to get greenlit on paper, somebody believed in this or somebody wasn't paying attention because there's no way in the eighties and all that you would have had people looked at on paper, four old ladies going to be living in a house.
And that's about it. Nobody would have said yes to that. But you know what we call that premise now in today's day and age. And I've heard enough women say this, that I can confidently say that it's a large population of women. The premise of the show is now called goals.
That's it right there. All of us are like, when our husbands drop dead or whatever happens to them, whatever happens to make us single again, we'll go, let's find our three besties and room up together. That sounds like the best idea for our golden years. I mean, they put four women over 50 at the center of a prime time network show in 1985. No, you're in the sport by the way.
Oh yeah. There you go. Wow. Look at that. I wonder if it came out today on your birthday.
Maybe we'll have to look into that, but they didn't have no men, no husbands anchoring the story, no aging gracefully subplot, no tragic backstory, pity parade. It was just them living, dating, arguing, eating cheesecake at 2 a.m. like philosophers in a nightgown. That's radical. This is a radical idea for the eighties and this show still hits hard now because of that.
Let's break down the characters. Dorothy, tall, dry, razor sharp assassin of bad logic. Blanche, a walking perfume ad for desire, confidence, and Southern audacity. There's that word for you. Love it.
Rose, sweet. Yeah, but don't let that Olaf energy fool you. She was emotionally intuitive in ways that caught everybody off guard. Honestly, yeah, that's about the best way to put it for her. And then you had Sophia, the Sicilian sniper, one liners like switchblades.
This woman was Twitter before Twitter was around. Think about it. She was giving out the zingers and stuff like that. These women though, they weren't archetypes. They were fully dimensional humans.
And that's the frequency I want to tune into right now today. What did you think about these characters, these women that we just got to see live? My favorite was getting to do the rewatch, getting to go back and watch. I mean, I've seen the show. I can't even count how many times.
In fact, I have a personal story about this show being one of my favorites. It's always been in the background my whole life, obviously. Started in 1985. I was born in 1985. So I'm very familiar with this show.
But when I was pregnant with my twins and I had to remain in the hospital for two months, I didn't have a lot of options. Now it wasn't on total bed rest. I could get up and walk around, which was nice, but had to stay at the hospital for two months before they were born. And The The Golden Girls was one of my shows. I've already talked about Naked and Afraid.
That was one that I spent every night watching before bed. But The The Golden Girls was always on, just happened to be on the TV. One of the best things about being in the hospital is they've got the TV and that show would come on every night. And it was like my fall asleep show. I swear, subconsciously, my twins who are now seven turning eight, when the theme song comes on, I swear they react.
I swear they're like, wait, that sounds familiar. I remember some version of that in sort of a muffled tone somewhere in my past. But singing the theme song is our family fun thing. But yeah, how do you think that's a show like this? Everybody kind of likes to do the, which character are you?
How much do you think it influenced shows like Sex and the City? Which you get four women again, best friends and living their lives together. The The Golden Girls paved the way for women sitcoms, women television shows, women led movies. Let's not steer away from that and acknowledge it. These four women right here were pioneers for anybody that really came after them.
And I don't think you'd find anybody on the All's Fair cast or any of these other women led shows that would say, oh, none of those four women, no, they didn't influence me at all. These women influenced men. It's not just like they influenced other women, but they showed that you could rise above all of this in a time when, yeah, like you wouldn't have really been. Yeah, it had been looked down upon. I mean, it honestly would have.
And that's just being right up blunt about it. I'm just imagining it being pitched in an office full of executives and them being like, you're going to put who on television? And the plot is what? Yeah. But it was nice to be Arthur and oh my gosh, I'm totally blank.
Yes, they came from their shows previous to this. Yeah. And then they were flowing into this role and into this show with some probably some audience, some people that recognize the Arthur as a comedian and she's hilarious. Oh my gosh, she's in a movie. What was that movie that she played like a Roman?
Was it Life of Brian or Monty Python? I'm trying to pull it out of my own head without Google. So apologies if I get it wrong, but there was this scene where she was playing this Roman woman in a window and she killed it. She was a small part in the movie and you just see how absolutely funny she is, that quick wit. And I always thought because she was made fun of a lot, Blanche and Sophia liked to team up and tease about how she's alone every Saturday night.
And as a kid, you're looking at her and saying, wow, she's really tall. Maybe she maybe she's too tall to get dates. I don't know. You're trying to figure that out as a young girl looking at this woman, looking at it now from my perspective as an adult woman, I'm going she is the most amazing character probably in the most interesting her wardrobe. She wore these like business attire dresses.
Yeah. What I would love to know where to buy those dresses for me. I'm at my age now. I think I'm like business style, giant collars. I could do without the shoulder pads, but still the style was on point.
I loved it. Show these guys going on shoulder pads have kind of went out. They've kind of gone now. You don't see too many of that. Too many things anymore.
I was actually going to talk about that on our episode yesterday. All's fair. When we talked about women, you know, in a business role being lawyers and you think back to like the movie Working Girl and a lot of what you see on The The Golden Girls is that in order for a woman to step into a executive position or what was previously men's work, whatever you want to call that, they felt like they had to be more masculine in order to fit in. So they brought in the shoulder pads to look a little bit more masculine or a little bit more like I want to be taken seriously. And I was really glad to see that the women in All's Fair didn't necessarily play into that role.
They didn't feel like they had to be, although there's plenty of competitiveness going on in that show. They didn't feel like they had to step into just, this is a man's world. So I got to behave as a man. They definitely were like, no, we're going to do this our way. It's a feminine way of doing things.
So that's where shoulder pads kind of you making that up or you actually? No, I've looked at your research. Yeah, I'm not sure that I can pull that resource out at this moment in time, but I've actually seen them talk about the invention of the shoulder pads. Yeah. Let's talk about this though, because we grew up being told that youth is the currency, but the The The Golden Girls said wisdom is the real flex.
Experience is the flex. Surviving heartbreak and still showing up to brunch. That's the flex. How many shows today give older women actual interior lives? Not as grandmas in the background or comic relief, but as the protagonist with desire, regret, ambition, grief, insecurity, lust, because they had it all right here.
This show, they weren't afraid of the age. It wasn't afraid of making menopause jokes. It wasn't afraid of conversation about AIDS, racism, immigration. And this was all in the 80s on NBC with a live track. That's what's wild to me.
This show, The The Golden Girls, was so much more than what they gave it on the end, looking at it from a big view and from inside. But yeah, what do you think about that? The main characters didn't necessarily have to know it all or be not racist or not prejudiced or not. We were learning these lessons along with them. I recall one episode where they were trying to find a lottery ticket in a jacket that had been donated to the homeless.
And so they had to pretend they needed to stay in the shelter. They got to spend a night on cots in this shelter and face some of their own prejudices against the homeless. Sophia saw one of her friends from Shady Pines in the shelter and said, what are you doing here? And she says, the money dried up. There was no one left.
And I'm here because I have nowhere else to go. And Rose got to speak with a man who was also from St. Olaf. But he said, I was laid off. And who wants to hire a 55-year-old hotel porter?
And so I had nowhere to go. So I made my way to Miami because at least it's warmer here if I have to be outside or if I have to be homeless or unhoused. In the show, it was still being used as homeless was the word they were using. We don't use that term currently. But it gave everybody a chance to look face to face with these people.
And instead of thinking of them as, oh, those people that we do charity events for and we get the money and we hope they get their lives together. Now they're spending the night with them. They're in cots with them. And it was a really powerful episode because by the end, they find their lottery ticket that was $10,000. And I teared up a little bit as they handed the ticket over to the pastor running the shelter and said, here you go.
Yeah. So sweet. Lots of powerful moments like that. This show was deep. It really was deep.
It wasn't all romance or a love story. It was friendship. Or quick wit. Yeah. Or quick wit.
It was more about the friendship and the chosen family that we have and how we interact with those people and how they live. And they didn't always agree. That's the best part. They never, I don't know if they ever agreed, some of them. But yeah, plenty of bickering and teasing and pointing out each other's flaws and keeping each other humble, I'm sure, especially in Blanche's case where she believed herself to be younger and beautiful and more of everything.
And then there were moments where they're like, hey, I love the moment when Dorothy tells her to look down on a mirror. Yeah. She's like, have you ever looked down at a mirror? And she's like, what are you talking about? I don't know what that means.
And then she does. And she goes, do that. Why would you do that to yourself? Well, let's talk about Blanche for a second, because she was revolutionary on here. She was unapologetically sexual.
She dated younger men. She had standards though. It wasn't like she was, you know, a floozy or whatever you want to call it. I think she does probably get called that at some point, but not by me. Not by us.
Yeah. But that was kind of rare because she had insecurities too. And even now, even in 2026, that's what year we're in now, which, what is that? 40 years ago, the The The Golden Girls came out. That's crazy.
40. 41. Even in 2026, how many female characters are allowed to want desire without being framed as tragic or reckless or a slut? Let's just be honest. Yeah.
But that's honest. Like how many? Can you name anybody out there? Not, maybe our Freqs will come up with somebody that's on TV or in a movie. So gets away with all this, but isn't necessarily framed in a negative light because you don't have to be.
She was just living her life. She was just being Blanche. And then you got Dorothy. She's every person who's ever been told they're too much, too smart, too sarcastic, but she also had boundaries and that's power. She wasn't shrinking to fit anyone's comfort.
That's power to me. Yeah. Yeah. To show up authentically, just I'm allowed to be here. I'm allowed to take up space and I don't have to be anything that anybody expects me to be.
There's plenty of times where she's cut down and she's made, tried to be made to feel less than and usually by her own mother. So that hits close to home for a lot of people because they're like, oh, I know what it's like to be ragged on and not feel like enough with my own mother for sure. But then to have also this total understanding of the love that everything is done in love and that I don't have to let those cutting comments bother me if I'm securing myself and I can see the person giving those comments to me as just a way of showing love. If I would like to see it that way. Yeah.
Yeah. You got Rose over here. She was the naive one, the heart. She believed in people. She forgave.
She processed pain slowly and honestly. You ever noticed that the strongest people in your life are sometimes the softest? Kind of like a rose. Yeah. Kind of shows you like for her strength doesn't always roar like a freaking lion.
Doesn't have to because she's, she's a lioness. Let's be real. She's a lioness, but she doesn't have to be loud. Sophia though. Oh my God.
That elder energy, the I've survived war, loss, immigration and your nonsense kind of vibe. That's what she gives across the entire show. I don't even think she was the oldest cast member. Weren't the other ones actually older? She was the youngest.
I still get if I remember my facts, right? She, yeah, to be so cuttingly honest is something I aspire to be okay with. Like, and I think to myself, well, maybe when I'm that age, I won't care as much and I'll be able to say whatever I think and it'll be more in the entertainment of myself than in the purpose of making my point across to someone else. Cause I always felt like Sophia wasn't saying what she was saying to change anyone else's mind or to make them listen to her or to make herself more important to them. She literally lived like she was just there to have the best time she could have and enjoy herself.
I would love that kind of energy. She said the things that nobody else would. That's what she was doing. That's what she was on the show saying the stuff that nobody else would. Let's zoom out though, because why does this show still resonate now?
Aging is universal. Loneliness is universal. Reinventing yourself after divorce, death, or disappointment. That's universal. But they didn't treat any of this stuff like a tragedy.
They just treated it like it was like the next chapter of their life. Like it wasn't ever really doom and gloom. You know what I mean? Like they went through some rough shit, but it wasn't ever sure they had their moments, but it wasn't the drag you down type. So what is it?
Is it those things because they are universal? They transcend time. Am I right? I think so. I mean, even like you said, the topics that they brought up, it kind of shows that every new generation coming into their golden years has to be willing to be wrong, to look at the world a little bit differently.
I mean, if let's say you've gone that long in your life, having never met or had a conversation with a gay person, but to be presented with the opportunity to say, oh, oh, that's all right. Yeah, you get to do you. And I am okay with that. I watched the episode with Rose gets told that she's that lesbian is falling in love with her. A friend of Dorothy's has come to visit.
She's a lesbian. She wasn't really open about it. She wasn't sure she wanted to tell everybody she was a lesbian, but she got really close with Rose and had the opportunity to say, I think I'm kind of more fond of you than just friendship. And Rose had the opportunity to look at that and decide what does she want? How does she want to respond to that and say, I'm really flattered.
And if I was attracted to women, I would be really, really flattered and honored to be in a relationship with someone like you. Unfortunately, I'm not. So just can we be friends and left it at that. And it was an amazing opportunity. So I hope it's a timeless show because each new generation who comes into their golden years can look at it and say, oh, I still have a lot of life left to live.
I'm not dead. I can love, I can lose, I can try again, I can do things for the very first time. Dorothy steps on a stage and tries comedy for the first time because it was a bucket list thing she'd always wanted to do. And it's never too late. So do like live your life and also be willing and open to learning and challenging your previously held beliefs if need be.
Yeah. There's a scene where they're sitting around the kitchen table at night, cheesecake in hand, talking about fear. And it feels like therapy, but without the Instagram quotes, just honestly, it's real. But that's what I loved about this show. It trusted the audience.
It didn't dumb down the complex conversations. Really the jokes and stuff that Sophia and everybody else was doing carried the truth in it instead of avoiding it. And that was something that was strong. Here's something personal for you. I've been in a room with legends, you know, might be a little older, youth is currency.
I've seen that. I've been in Hollywood, let's just say, but there's something grounded about a show like this that says your value doesn't expire because they got older or they're retired. That's the frequency right there. Your value does not expire no matter what. No.
If you feel overlooked. I think it escalates. I had a conversation with a woman who was one of my mentors. She's a little bit older than I am. I won't say how old, leave that up to her.
But she was told, and she does a lot of the same work that I do in the healing world, energy healing and that. And she was saying that someone actually told her, what are you still doing this for? Why are you doing this? You need to retire. You need to be done.
Women your age shouldn't be doing this. And I said, that is so completely the opposite of what I believe, because I believe that especially the type of work that we do, it's for the older women. It's for the women who've lived, who've lost, who've had grief, who've been through it, who've been wounded and have learned from that and are ready to bring that kind of healing and light to the world in whatever way that they can. And at her age or my age, it was my birthday. So I'm kind of looking at my life, reflecting on what have I done?
Where am I at now? Where am I headed? It is about that triple goddess archetype. You have the maiden, the maiden is useful and valuable in the ways that they are useful. You have the mother and whether they're actually a mother or just in the stage of a mother where they're nurturing and caring and getting things ready for themselves, and then you have the phase of the crone.
And a lot of people like to devalue that, that because it's not a physically, I don't know, fertile age, let's say. Am I being diplomatic here? And you don't have to be, you don't have to be, just be real. Yeah. So what the executive types might call fable.
Yeah. Yeah. So you get that sort of feeling from the The The Golden Girls. And I do love to, I do love the phrase that you said just earlier, the chosen family, because you'll notice in the show that there are a lot of scenes where they're sitting around that table or they're sitting on that, what is it, like a bamboo couch, coral colored couch, the aesthetics being very eighties and Miami. It's just iconic, but they're sitting around together, having meals and conversations as they're growing more and more each other's family.
You don't see a whole lot of families. I mean, they've got children and they've got ex spouses or, and you would think that at that age, they'd be gathering their own family and their own kids a lot more. But maybe that's just not the case. Maybe they're spread out all over the country. They come in and out once in a while when they need a little something in their scene writing, they're like, we're going to have someone visit, we're going to have this happen.
Or Blanche's daughter is having a baby, we're going to pop them in. So they kind of come in and out, but they aren't like a prevalent part of their lives. Each other, these The The Golden Girls, being roommates together and eating cheesecake at 2am in their kitchen, they are their chosen family and how powerful it can be to go through all that they've been through in this show. They have Rose loses her job at one point, she doesn't know how she's going to make ends meet. Dorothy's ex husband, Stan is in and out being a jerk and we love to hate him.
So they're going through their shit, like you said, but they always have each other. They always come back together as their chosen family. So there's a lot to be said for that. Imagine if they rebooted this right now today, not as a gimmick, but as a real exploration of some women in their 60s, navigating dating apps, healthcare, social media, and maybe even throw in some political chaos. What would that be like?
I'd watch it. I think we need that. Actually, we might need that show. It kind of reminds me of Leanne, the comedian Leanne she's doing. She's kind of in her golden girl age.
Her kids are grown up. Her husband has decided to divorce her after all that time. So she's got to try to figure things out. So you got to think that that's probably an inspired show, but I'd love to see a remake of the The The Golden Girls, maybe a little darker, maybe, maybe not quite so sitcom. I'd love to see the humor.
I'd love to keep the humor in there, but just something with a little more. I mean, we've got shows like It's It's It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia in Philadelphia in Philadelphia in Philadelphia in Philadelphia that are dark, but funny, but don't have the laugh track. Maybe it's something similar to that style. Maybe we could see. Maybe.
I like that idea, but who would you, we're not going to answer this right now, but Freqs out there, how about that? I would need some more time. I want to know what people think. Freqs, I want to know who would you cast? And even if it was like not in the same characters, but reinventing new characters or what would the dynamic look like if you had four individuals you would choose to be the The The Golden Girls?
I would love to hear your ideas. Yeah, I want to know what those are. I wanted to know what those are. That's it though for this episode of Parallel Frequencies with Just Blane and the birthday girl, Coco. I thought we were going to get you out here early today for your birthday, but I think we went longer than normal.
So even what's going on for the birthday party tonight? Anything? What time am I supposed to be there? Usually on my birthday, we're all too busy doing our regular stuff, you know, whatever it is our daily lives has, but you know what I love to do on my birthday? No matter what I always wear tiara all day.
I love it. I just celebrate myself and I love to go to the toy store and buy my inner child a toy that I would love. Like I'm an adult with money now, right? But I could buy whatever toy I want for my birthday. When are you going to the toy store today then?
What are you going to get? I have no idea. I'll decide when I get there. But it's just that feeling like when you were a kid, if you had been told as a kid that you were brought into a toy store and said, pick something out, that just brings me so much joy. All right.
Relive it all over again. There it is Freqs. There's your tease for tomorrow. Coco is going to bring her toy, whatever she gets. We're going to see what that is.
And it will be trailer part Thursday, which means I'll break out the cowboy hat. We'll get the podcast trailers rocking. We'll talk about Joe Bob a little bit tomorrow too, because I got some concerns about Joe Bob. So I'm going to have bring those up on the show. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah. But until then, we'll see you next time. Parallel Frequencies with Just Blane and Coco. See you on the other side.
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